Wolves were "too much" for Nugs after 2 games, but now they need more help??

[3ba11]

What will be the excuse when Ant loses?.. How can it be "not enough help" when even Lebron said the Wolves were stacked with "length at every position" - but now they need more help?..

It's impossible that "more help" is the answer - the answer is Ant learning how to have great chemistry that "elevates teammates"... Currently, teammate elevation is impossible with his predictable down-hill, transition style that seeks mostly 3's and layups - little diversity in the looks given to defenses.

He plays like the typical modern American player - a "down-hill" player - this will never generate championship chemistry just like it didn't for Lebron - Ant will need to team up to win titles just like he did.. And he'll still mostly lose

[AirBonner]

It’s not that they need “more” help. They just need “less” Toody

[AirBonner]

It’s actually funny. Ant looks like MJ with hair and plays like him. Op is shook.

[GimmeThat]

you're saying if Donovan Mitchell starts pouring in 3's and win another game against the Celtics, Wolves would have been perfectly fine, shutting the door on Gobert by not giving him help.

[NBAGOAT]

they need help on offense not defense. the length was good for their defense. jaden mcdaniels shooting 19% from 3 for the playoffs is bad for their offense. Also ironic how when pippen plays poorly its his own fault and he's a a terrible 2nd option when pippen plays well it's because mj elevated him to a winning player. When KAT plays well he's a franchise player who "laid the foundation and kept them afloat", when kat lays an egg it's edwards fault :lol. Hysterical mental gymnastics

[3ba11]

they need help on offense not defense. the length was good for their defense. jaden mcdaniels shooting 19% from 3 for the playoffs is bad for their offense. Also ironic how when pippen plays poorly its his own fault and he's a a terrible 2nd option when pippen plays well it's because mj elevated him to a winning player. When KAT plays well he's a franchise player who "laid the foundation and kept them afloat", when kat lays an egg it's edwards fault :lol. Hysterical mental gymnastics


Ant's 44 had zero diversity - he's just a typical modern American player - a "down-hill" skillset that seeks predictable 3's and layups, which yields weak chemistry and weak teammate development or performance - casts need great chemistry to play great, so they can't play great alongside Ant's simpleton, "down-hill" skillset.. His point came via "down-hill" threes or layups, while Jokic scored a lot of mid-range and paint shots outside the restricted area - both of these are Ant's weakness but this in-between capability allows the team higher strategic capacity and chemistry, thereby allowing better teammate performance.. this stuff is intuitive and bball 101

[GimmeThat]

they need help on offense not defense.

you're acting as if there's a tempo that can be played where Gobert isn't a turnover machine.

[3ba11]

It’s actually funny. Ant looks like MJ with hair and plays like him. Op is shook.


Ant has to keep both hands on the ball until the last instant on layups, due to smaller hands... So he can't do the one-handed, extended arm layups that wrap around 7-footers like Dr. J or MJ did.. All his "hangtime" shots are the same - he keeps both hands on the ball until the last instant and takes a 2-foot jumper basically - it's weak shot-making skill compared to the wide variety of shots that MJ made... Ant is bad at paint shots outside the restricted area because they require the touch and shot-making diversity that i'm talking about.. Ant also sucks at mid-range (35% on mid-range)

[FultzNationRISE]

It’s not that they need “more” help. They just need “less” Toody


:roll:

[Ass Dan]

American media has had Ant's dlck in their mouth since before the World Championships last year. That was 'Ant's coronation' his 'coming out party' and his 'next step into superstardom.' He got owned by Germany in the semis and SGA in the BRONZE.

He's a nice player, but the Nuggs are letting him get his playing him one v one, and asking KAT et al to beat them.

[Xiao Yao You]

American media has had Ant's dlck in their mouth since before the World Championships last year. That was 'Ant's coronation' his 'coming out party' and his 'next step into superstardom.' He got owned by Germany in the semis and SGA in the BRONZE.

He's a nice player, but the Nuggs are letting him get his playing him one v one, and asking KAT et al to beat them.

Obviously until KAT shows he can step up its the right call

[GimmeThat]

Obviously until KAT shows he can step up its the right call

looking forward to everyone on the Wolves trying to pad their win share disregarding Gobert

[ImKobe]

It’s not that they need “more” help. They just need “less” Toody

This.

[ArbitraryWater]

Ant plays identical to Kobe (and thus somewhat MJ), when its Kobe OP says its superior brand allowing everyone to thrive, when its Ant its down hill 1 way type scoring allowing no one else to get involved.


lolol

[GimmeThat]

Ant plays identical to Kobe (and thus somewhat MJ), when its Kobe OP says its superior brand allowing everyone to thrive, when its Ant its down hill 1 way type scoring allowing no one else to get involved.


lolol

his alt account is weightless after all

[plowking]

OP is actually autistic.

He thinks some arbitrary thing he picks out is the reason basketball games are won and lost. Half the time - the shit he picks out isn't true.


"That car is red and goes fast so therefore it won't rain today" - basically OP's logic with his basketball takes. Just absolutely abysmal.

[90sgoat]

Ant isn't the reason they're losing, he is 22 years old after all.

The reason they're losing is because they're no longer being allowed to foul without whistles on every possession.

[GimmeThat]

OP is actually autistic.

He thinks some arbitrary thing he picks out is the reason basketball games are won and lost. Half the time - the shit he picks out isn't true.


"That car is red and goes fast so therefore it won't rain today" - basically OP's logic with his basketball takes. Just absolutely abysmal.

OP is just exposed because the dating ritual is a science, dopamine level can be tracked by quality and frequency

[Phoenix]

OP are you actually watching games or a few highlights here and there? Because nobody talks more than you about a game you claim to not actively watch.

[BarberSchool]

you're acting as if there's a tempo that can be played where Gobert isn't a turnover machine.
This.

[BarberSchool]

OP is actually autistic.

He thinks some arbitrary thing he picks out is the reason basketball games are won and lost. Half the time - the shit he picks out isn't true.


"That car is red and goes fast so therefore it won't rain today" - basically OP's logic with his basketball takes. Just absolutely abysmal.Sometimes, when you win, you actually lose.
Sometimes, when OP loses, he actually wins.
And sometimes when y’all win and lose, you actually tie.

So keep in mind,
there ain’t no damn vista,
and there ain’t no view.

[BarberSchool]

Ant isn't the reason they're losing, he is 22 years old after all.

The reason they're losing is because they're no longer being allowed to foul without whistles on every possession.WINNER !!!!! :cheers:

[3ba11]

OP are you actually watching games or a few highlights here and there? Because nobody talks more than you about a game you claim to not actively watch.


Anyone can go to youtube.com and search for "Ant 44" to see how he got his 44 points..

If they do this, they will notice that nearly all of Ant's points came in a down-hill fashion seeking threes or layups... It shouldn't be a surprise that this predictable, ball-dominant approach and narrow shot allocation will eventually get solved by top teams.. This has been the case with Lebron, who has a lottery record against Finals teams like the 09' Magic, 10' Celtics or his Finals record.. Bron lost 3 straight games to lose nearly all of these series, so teams figure out Bron-ball and can't lose thereafter.. This series is no different.. Neither Ant nor SGA will win another game in these playoffs - they've been solved... Solved like bron-ball.. today's "modern" player is a simpleton, "down-hill" sillset that can't foster great chemistry and therefore cannot have great-performing casts or great teams.

[GimmeThat]

Anyone can go to youtube.com and search for "Ant 44" to see how he got his 44 points..

If they do this, they will notice that nearly all of Ant's points came in a down-hill fashion seeking threes or layups... It shouldn't be a surprise that this predictable, ball-dominant approach and narrow shot allocation will eventually get solved by top teams.. This has been the case with Lebron, who has a lottery record against Finals teams like the 09' Magic, 10' Celtics or his Finals record.. Bron lost 3 straight games to lose nearly all of these series, so teams figure out Bron-ball and can't lose thereafter.. This series is no different.. Neither Ant nor SGA will win another game in these playoffs - they've been solved... Solved like bron-ball.. today's "modern" player is a simpleton, "down-hill" sillset that can't foster great chemistry and therefore cannot have great-performing casts or great teams.

just stop taking your heart medication and let it fail. and yes, any sort of diet that helps boost red blood cells in your body is in fact considered a drug.

[Phoenix]

Anyone can go to youtube.com and search for "Ant 44" to see how he got his 44 points..

If they do this, they will notice that nearly all of Ant's points came in a down-hill fashion seeking threes or layups... It shouldn't be a surprise that this predictable, ball-dominant approach and narrow shot allocation will eventually get solved by top teams.. This has been the case with Lebron, who has a lottery record against Finals teams like the 09' Magic, 10' Celtics or his Finals record.. Bron lost 3 straight games to lose nearly all of these series, so teams figure out Bron-ball and can't lose thereafter.. This series is no different.. Neither Ant nor SGA will win another game in these playoffs - they've been solved... Solved like bron-ball.. today's "modern" player is a simpleton, "down-hill" sillset that can't foster great chemistry and therefore cannot have great-performing casts or great teams.

Your opinion on how Ant plays compared to MJ( which is your new shtick to keep you going for the next decade) is neither something I asked for or care about. I asked if you watch the games or just the highlights and wading through the above wall of shit I got the answer I was looking for.

[ShawkFactory]

Your opinion on how Ant plays compared to MJ( which is your new shtick to keep you going for the next decade) is neither something I asked for or care about. I asked if you watch the games or just the highlights and wading through the above wall of shit I got the answer I was looking for.

I blame myself for the 3ball Ant talks. I’ll own that.

No worries though. If Jokic gets through and rings again he’ll pivot.

[Duffy Pratt]

I blame myself for the 3ball Ant talks. I’ll own that.

No worries though. If Jokic gets through and rings again he’ll pivot.

Yeah, it seems like he’s playing whack-a-mole now.

[3ba11]

It's just funny how you guys said the Nuggets were too stacked with length after 2 games - too much for the Nuggets, but now Ant needs more help, lol..

He clearly doesn't because the Nuggets were "overmatched after 2 games - the difference is the chemistry, which Ant's downhill game lacks and so the opponent has solved him.. defenses can live with 1 guy getting 40 if it's a down-hill 40 that leaves teammates out to dry
.

[plowking]

Sometimes, when you win, you actually lose.
Sometimes, when OP loses, he actually wins.
And sometimes when y’all win and lose, you actually tie.

So keep in mind,
there ain’t no damn vista,
and there ain’t no view.

This TBH.

[PeroAntic]

Ant is better than Jordan

[Phoenix]

It's just funny how you guys said the Nuggets were too stacked with length after 2 games - too much for the Nuggets, but now Ant needs more help, lol..

He clearly doesn't because the Nuggets were "overmatched after 2 games - the difference is the chemistry, which Ant's downhill game lacks and so the opponent has solved him.. defenses can live with 1 guy getting 40 if it's a down-hill 40 that leaves teammates out to dry
.

Why would you expect a team with an evolving 22 year old to have greater chemistry than a team whose core has been together for years led by a 10 year vet in the peak of his MVP prime, and who won the chip last year?Yes the Nuggets do and should have the chemistry/teamwork/experience edge, so what insight do you think you've provided? The Wolves punched them in the mouth and the Nuggets responded. It's a series. STFU and try watching a game in 2024 without thinking about how you can tear down every up and coming prospect in comparisons to MJ.

[3ba11]

Why would you expect a team with an evolving 22 year old





20 year old Magic had great chemistry, so cut the bs age excuses... Unlike Ant, the 22-year Jordan's skillset wasn't restricted to a "down-hill" skillset that wasn't 5-man basketball... The 22-year Jordan was already fundamentally-sound and knew how to play 5-man basketball.. So the only reason that Bird/Magic were winning in the 80's is because they had help and MJ didn't... And now Ant has help but he's going to lose because he has the simpleton modern skillset (down-hill) - this fosters weak chemistry that needs collusions to win, and still mostly loses

[Phoenix]

20 year old Magic had great chemistry, so cut the bs age excuses... Unlike Ant, the 22-year Jordan's skillset wasn't restricted to a "down-hill" skillset that wasn't 5-man basketball... The 22-year Jordan was already fundamentally-sound and knew how to play 5-man basketball.. So the only reason that Bird/Magic were winning in the 80's is because they had help and MJ didn't... And now Ant has help but he's going to lose because he has the simpleton modern skillset (down-hill) - this fosters weak chemistry that needs collusions to win, and still mostly loses

First, Magic is a top 10 GOAT. Ant is a 22 year old up and coming star. They're also different players in approach and you have several posts on here criticizing Magic being ball dominant. Magic also had MVP Kareem who was basically going to be the finals MVP until he missed game 6. Let's not act like Magic was playing with scrubs. Hell Tim Duncan had 2 rings at an age before MJ started winning. Players have different starts to their career, what matters most is how it all ends. Ant is 4 years in and 22 so yeah, STFU. You have no clue what this kid will or will not become yet.

The only bullshit needing to be cut isn't on my end of the conversation