View Full Version : Wow Caitlan Clark stinks - why was everyone so high on her? because she's white?
3ba11
05-17-2024, 05:29 PM
is that why? another white hope bites the dust i guess.. peter mcneely of the wnba.. carry on
why couldn't you guys tell that she's a one trick pony with an exact skillset of the following - drive right, get cut off, behind-the-back counter, and if that fails, it's step-back time - why couldn't you guys see that was her entire game?
j3lademaster
05-17-2024, 05:32 PM
I saw she shot 5-15 with 10 turnovers. I have no idea if that's good or bad though, for all I know 33% shooting in the wnba is Shaq efficiency.
3ball is scared of WNBA players surpassing Mikey now :roll:
3ba11
05-17-2024, 05:51 PM
3ball is scared of WNBA players surpassing Mikey now :roll:
No I just continue to marvel how clueless nearly everyone is about basketball, despite watching it a ton... I watched Caitlan for literally 5 seconds - literally - I mean that - 5 seconds - and I could tell she was nothing.. Another Lonzo Ball-type disappointment.
Gohan
05-17-2024, 05:55 PM
3ball is scared of WNBA players surpassing Mikey now :roll:
I ain't gonna lie, I laughed at this post
SouBeachTalents
05-17-2024, 05:59 PM
No I just continue to marvel how clueless nearly everyone is about basketball.
Yep, this guy especially
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493318-Curry-is-the-most-overrated-player-in-history
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?476366-The-latest-BS-quot-if-Giannis-hits-that-jumpshot-it-s-over-quot&p=14103815&viewfull=1#post14103815
3ba11
05-17-2024, 06:11 PM
Yep, this guy especially
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493318-Curry-is-the-most-overrated-player-in-history
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?476366-The-latest-BS-quot-if-Giannis-hits-that-jumpshot-it-s-over-quot&p=14103815&viewfull=1#post14103815
I was right about the 2nd one so I guess the Curry thing is all you have.. It's understandable that someone who literally doesn't watch the games for over 10 years was a little late to the party on a paper-boy-looking dude jacking up half court shots.
SouBeachTalents
05-17-2024, 06:14 PM
I was right about the 2nd one so I guess the Curry thing is all you have.. It's understandable that someone who literally doesn't watch the games for over 10 years was a little late to the party on a paper-boy-looking dude jacking up half court shots.
You were right Giannis is a Pippen level player? Damn, no wonder the Bulls won 55 after Baldan retired. Makes you realize how unimpressive his titles really are, winning all of them with an MVP/DPOY/FMVP caliber player.
3ba11
05-17-2024, 06:24 PM
You were right Giannis is a Pippen level player? Damn, no wonder the Bulls won 55 after Baldan retired. Makes you realize how unimpressive his titles really are, winning all of them with an MVP/DPOY/FMVP caliber player.
Giannis is a 1-trick pony that never really learned how to play basketball - his jumpshot still looks like a beginner and he has no bag or fundamentals - he's just a big athlete.
He's way better than Pippen but that isn't saying much... Larry Nance was superior to Pippen... Heck Andre Igoudala reached more impactful heights, while Pippen is 0/6 in matching Horry's gamescore from the 95' Finals... The point is that it's a low bar to find someone to match Pippen's weak performance.
And Pippen was never a 55-win franchise player - he was simply handed the keys to the most well-oiled machine ever and was quickly a .500 team in 1995 after opponents woke up and started giving crap about playing the Bulls again..
Jordan returned to a .500 ballclub that he turned into a 3-peat team - that's the historical record... He turned a lottery team into the 1st three-peat, and then he did the same thing with Pippen's debacle (.500 team to 3-peat team)
SouBeachTalents
05-17-2024, 06:27 PM
Giannis is a 1-trick pony that never really learned how to play basketball - his jumpshot still looks like a beginner and he has no bag or fundamentals - he's just a big athlete.
He's way better than Pippen but that isn't saying much... Larry Nance was superior to Pippen... Heck Andre Igoudala reached more impactful heights, while Pippen is 0/6 in matching Horry's gamescore from the 95' Finals... The point is that it's a low bar to find someone to match Pippen's weak performance.
1 trick pony that never learned basketball huh
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?498763-3ball-how-do-you-have-Giannis-as-top-5-all-time&p=14466311&viewfull=1#post14466311
3ba11
05-17-2024, 06:28 PM
1 trick pony that never learned basketball huh
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?498763-3ball-how-do-you-have-Giannis-as-top-5-all-time&p=14466311&viewfull=1#post14466311
Yes for about 10 seconds, I over-ranked Giannis before I realized everything that I said in my previous post.
Again, you only have the Curry thing, and that's the one kind of oversight which is understandable for someone that doesn't watch.. he's that unique
j3lademaster
05-17-2024, 06:52 PM
But Giannis wins(organic), though.
FultzNationRISE
05-17-2024, 06:54 PM
Wow Caitlan Clark stinks - why was everyone so high on her? because she's white?
Actually yeah, that probably is the reason everyone was so high on her.
I'm sure she's a great women's player, but the public would not have cared or paid attention if she was black. There's endless amounts of data supporting that.
j3lademaster
05-17-2024, 07:16 PM
Actually yeah, that probably is the reason everyone was so high on her.
I'm sure she's a great women's player, but the public would not have cared or paid attention if she was black. There's endless amounts of data supporting that.I agree it matters, but she also seemed to have dragged the wnba out of complete obscurity(at least for the time being). Isn't Taurasi widely considered the goat and isn't Delle Donne a superstar? They're both white and never had this effect on the brand. Caitlyn's gotta have something else. Admittedly I only watched like 2 or 3 minutes of her debut and went back to the Knick's game so I didn't see anything.
FultzNationRISE
05-17-2024, 07:49 PM
I agree it matters, but she also seemed to have dragged the wnba out of complete obscurity(at least for the time being). Isn't Taurasi widely considered the goat and isn't Delle Donne a superstar? They're both white and never had this effect on the brand. Caitlyn's gotta have something else. Admittedly I only watched like 2 or 3 minutes of her debut and went back to the Knick's game so I didn't see anything.
Those chicks are like 6'5 and dont shoot threes. That may make them stars within the world of women's basketball, but it doesnt create a buzz outside of it.
Clark is seen as a somewhat feminine, decent looking female who's hooping. That's why people watch. The WNBA and the politically correct crowd can deny it all they want, but a huge PART of the reason she gets eyeballs is she's a low key sex symbol. Not by comparison to typical hollywood starlets, but by comparison to the other female stars of professional basketball. She's cute and she shoots threes. That's a novelty in women's basketball. Most of the players are tall, dark, and stiff. Clark isnt. That's why the general public watches her. It's a fact, however uncomfortable.
If she was black, the media and the public would not respond to her as a sex symbol. Hollywood, the corporate media, and the average viewer consistently tell black women in entertainment "thanks but no thanks."
FultzNationRISE
05-17-2024, 08:05 PM
The WNBA has a very challenging mission trying to sell this to the public.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/Layshia_Clarendon_%28cropped%29.jpg
No matter what the quality of basketball is.
Somewhere deep down the league knows commercial success in womens athletics rests on good looking players. Clark obviously isnt a 10/10 stunner, but for a "face of the brand" she's a step in that direction.
The problem is, the league can never explicitly emphasize that as its direction. They cant just sign the chicks people think are cute without prioritizing basketball talent. If they did, the league would factually, indisputably be more successful. But they cant.
The WNBA (which is owned by the NBA) has made its bed as a politically 'progressive' institution. So they're gonna be stuck subsidizing an unprofitable league. The public does not respond to masculine chicks with prison tats when it comes to entertainment. It's a stone cold fact and it's not changing.
3ba11
05-17-2024, 08:14 PM
The WNBA has a very challenging mission trying to sell this to the public.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/Layshia_Clarendon_%28cropped%29.jpg
No matter what the quality of basketball is.
Somewhere deep down the league knows commercial success in womens athletics rests on good looking players. Clark obviously isnt a 10/10 stunner, but for a "face of the brand" she's a step in that direction.
The problem is, the league can never explicitly emphasize that as its direction. They cant just sign the chicks people think are cute without prioritizing basketball talent. If they did, the league would factually, indisputably be more successful. But they cant.
The WNBA (which is owned by the NBA) has made its bed as a politically 'progressive' institution. So they're gonna be stuck subsidizing an unprofitable league. The public does not respond to masculine chicks with prison tats when it comes to entertainment. It's a stone cold fact and it's not changing.
:no:... There's more than enough baddies in the WNBA..
The problem is that I have yet to see a woman with an elite, sick "bag"... There's no kyrie's or hakeem's.
The best players can mimic a few moves but they lack some of the best footwork, carrying and traveling that make the NBA a better viewing for most fans.
90sgoat
05-17-2024, 08:34 PM
Those chicks are like 6'5 and dont shoot threes. That may make them stars within the world of women's basketball, but it doesnt create a buzz outside of it.
Clark is seen as a somewhat feminine, decent looking female who's hooping. That's why people watch. The WNBA and the politically correct crowd can deny it all they want, but a huge PART of the reason she gets eyeballs is she's a low key sex symbol. Not by comparison to typical hollywood starlets, but by comparison to the other female stars of professional basketball. She's cute and she shoots threes. That's a novelty in women's basketball. Most of the players are tall, dark, and stiff. Clark isnt. That's why the general public watches her. It's a fact, however uncomfortable.
If she was black, the media and the public would not respond to her as a sex symbol. Hollywood, the corporate media, and the average viewer consistently tell black women in entertainment "thanks but no thanks."
She's relateable.
Cute-ish and with a personality white people appreciate.
White people have preferences and culture, it's not exactly rocket science.
coin24
05-17-2024, 08:59 PM
Isn’t Cameron brink playing aswel?
If it’s about white and hot then why isn’t she getting all the attention?
All I hear about now is some ghetto trash named A Ja online having a cry about racism..
CurryOverLebron
05-17-2024, 10:00 PM
People care about Caitlin Clark and Sabrina Ionescu because they shoot threes. It's the same reason JJ Redick and Jimmer Fredette were so popular in college.
FultzNationRISE
05-17-2024, 10:01 PM
Actually, I take it back. I may be overestimating the public.
With enough promotion and cultural pressure, maybe eventually you will get a sizable portion of men to care about the WNBA.
90sgoat
05-18-2024, 05:24 AM
They should make the court smaller and lower the ring a bit.
WhiteKyrie
05-18-2024, 06:18 AM
She will be fine. Everyone is gunning for her because of her rep and how much money she’s making. She can shoot and pass. She can play. She has also faced some quality team defenses for wnba standards one after the other. She’s also a rookie and it’s only been a few games. Umm relax
Wardell Curry
05-18-2024, 06:57 AM
Supposedly, OP hasn't watched an NBA game in years. Guess he's been busy with the WNBA.
jayfan
05-18-2024, 10:24 AM
Yes for about 10 seconds, I over-ranked Giannis before I realized everything that I said in my previous post.
Again, you only have the Curry thing, and that's the one kind of oversight which is understandable for someone that doesn't watch.. he's that unique
And Curry is Caitlin's nba comp. So it makes sense that you'd underrate her after 10 seconds like you did him.
As for her popularity - Again, just like Curry in the men's game, she shoots from range not seen before in the women's game. Not about race.
hold this L
05-18-2024, 10:32 AM
Actually yeah, that probably is the reason everyone was so high on her.
I'm sure she's a great women's player, but the public would not have cared or paid attention if she was black. There's endless amounts of data supporting that.
What is this endless amount of data?
tpols
05-18-2024, 10:35 AM
And Curry is Caitlin's nba comp. So it makes sense that you'd underrate her after 10 seconds like you did him.
As for her popularity - Again, just like Curry in the men's game, she shoots from range not seen before in the women's game. Not about race.
Yea I was gonna say. 3ball used to shit on Curry but now he praises him. And that was around like 2015 2016 when he was breaking records lmao.
BarberSchool
05-18-2024, 11:09 AM
Never watched a WNBA or women’s college game, and never will.
Unless they change uniforms to Volleyball style uniforms. And all the players are AT LEAST as pretty as Satou Sabally, Cameron Brink, Candace Parker, etc.
Ideally, if they had ten Skylar Diggins out there, on a 72ft court, with 9ft rims, it might be watchable.
As for Caitlin Clark, I couldn’t disagree more with Fultz, that b!tch is NOT a sex symbol lol, she looks like a 13-14yr old boy, who grew his hair long and blow dried it. She literally facially has a boy’s face. Body might be slightly better than we expected, but that 7th grade boy face is NEVER going to attract straight men to tune in.
BarberSchool
05-18-2024, 11:15 AM
The WNBA has a very challenging mission trying to sell this to the public.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/75/Layshia_Clarendon_%28cropped%29.jpg
No matter what the quality of basketball is.
Somewhere deep down the league knows commercial success in womens athletics rests on good looking players. Clark obviously isnt a 10/10 stunner, but for a "face of the brand" she's a step in that direction.
The problem is, the league can never explicitly emphasize that as its direction. They cant just sign the chicks people think are cute without prioritizing basketball talent. If they did, the league would factually, indisputably be more successful. But they cant.
The WNBA (which is owned by the NBA) has made its bed as a politically 'progressive' institution. So they're gonna be stuck subsidizing an unprofitable league. The public does not respond to masculine chicks with prison tats when it comes to entertainment. It's a stone cold fact and it's not changing.
This is all on point, except for Clark’s in any way being a moderately attractive face of the league. Her facial form is too much like a middle school boy.
And the bottom line, is … it’s a VASTLY INFERIOR PRODUCT. The only time people will come and watch an inferior product, is when their kids, relatives, classmates are participating in the competition. And even then, admission is less than $7 lol
WNBA is very similar, qualitatively, to 6th or 7th grade boys (depending on which community since equatorial descendants mature sooner) basketball, but with way more cringe turnovers and missed shots, and less coordination.
Duffy Pratt
05-18-2024, 02:30 PM
People were declaring Wemby a bust after one summer league game. Relax.
And for 3ball, no matter how good she gets, there’s little chance that she will be threatening Jordan’s legacy.
Nowoco
05-18-2024, 03:22 PM
Somewhere deep down the league knows commercial success in womens athletics rests on good looking players. Clark obviously isnt a 10/10 stunner, but for a "face of the brand" she's a step in that direction.
You must be trippin? She's ugly as shit. A big long horse face which is emphasized even more when she has her hair tied back in games. If Caitlin Clark is supposed to be some pin-up for the WNBA then it just shows how ugly the rest of them are.
3ba11
05-18-2024, 03:34 PM
She will be fine. Everyone is gunning for her because of her rep and how much money she’s making. She can shoot and pass. She can play. She has also faced some quality team defenses for wnba standards one after the other. She’s also a rookie and it’s only been a few games. Umm relax
She's another Lonzo Ball - that's what it looks like so far.. She'll be "okay" just like he was, but that isn't how she was promoted - she was promoted as the GOAT
I figured her game out in literally 5 seconds - she wants to go right... if she gets cut off, she goes behind the back.. if that gets cut-off, she goes into a step-back.. her game is exactly like my brother-in-law, except he uses an un-and-under when his behind the back invariably gets cut off instead of a step-back.
Carbine
05-18-2024, 04:10 PM
JuJU is actually the one with "next" when it comes to women basketball. She has a man's game with skill at all three levels of scoring and she's a big body.
She has played a grand total of two games as of this post. I'll reserve my judgement until later.
FultzNationRISE
05-18-2024, 05:45 PM
JuJU is actually the one with "next" when it comes to women basketball. She has a man's game with skill at all three levels of scoring and she's a big body.
So you think theres a market for women’s basketball based purely on game play?
If so I guess I dont understand why that’s suddenly the case after 25 years of not being the case.
Patrick Chewing
05-18-2024, 07:53 PM
She had a great game today. Her team just sucks.
imdaman99
05-18-2024, 07:57 PM
I watched some today. She was solid. But I was expecting her making a clear effect on the team, sometimes she makes a pass and the girl trying to catch it bobbles it out of bounds. It will take time. She doesn't stink but you know the rest of the league is gunning for her, it's a jealousy thing not a race thing. They did the same shit to lonzo ball in his first games and he had less hype than her.
Didn't they have the #1 pick last year and this year? How many more #1 picks do they need before they don't suck anymore?
j3lademaster
05-18-2024, 08:23 PM
So you think theres a market for women’s basketball based purely on game play?
If so I guess I dont understand why that’s suddenly the case after 25 years of not being the case.
Sports can evolve in 25 years. The nba in 1970 looks completely different from the nba in 1995. The ufc has evolved drastically in the last 10-15 years, let alone 25(especially the strides female fighters have made).
no one cares about women's basketball
****** OP needs to stop spamming the NBA board
bison
05-18-2024, 09:34 PM
Didn't they have the #1 pick last year and this year? How many more #1 picks do they need before they don't suck anymore?
Ask the Detroit pistons
bison
05-18-2024, 09:34 PM
You must be trippin? She's ugly as shit. A big long horse face which is emphasized even more when she has her hair tied back in games. If Caitlin Clark is supposed to be some pin-up for the WNBA then it just shows how ugly the rest of them are.
You may be a homosexual
90sgoat
05-18-2024, 09:41 PM
Well, she has long legs and she is fit, y'all ****** not turning that down at 3 am.
FultzNationRISE
05-18-2024, 10:12 PM
Edit: ehhh, nevermind I dont care.
BarberSchool
05-18-2024, 11:27 PM
You must be trippin? She's ugly as shit. A big long horse face which is emphasized even more when she has her hair tied back in games. If Caitlin Clark is supposed to be some pin-up for the WNBA then it just shows how ugly the rest of them are.
Word. She made DiJonai Carrington look way sexier that she actually is, by comparison.
BarberSchool
05-18-2024, 11:28 PM
Well, she has long legs and she is fit, y'all ****** not turning that down at 3 am.
Be hard to finish, looking at that face.
Doggy the only way.
Her face looks like some 7th grade upper middle class boy named Aiden, who plays golf every Sunday after church, grew his hair out and fu@ked around and let his sister straighten it with heat.
beasted
05-18-2024, 11:46 PM
She had a great game today. Her team just sucks.
She had 8 TOs
You must be trippin? She's ugly as shit. A big long horse face which is emphasized even more when she has her hair tied back in games. If Caitlin Clark is supposed to be some pin-up for the WNBA then it just shows how ugly the rest of them are.
She may not be a diva, idol or beauty queen of some sorts. But somehow, her smile (https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQg2kL_70tsBCNjPKoJdgpTzVyW7eYuN _ABULO7dr4HkIMzi6bbWAwxVK0&s=10) rh can make her look very pretty.
hold this L
05-19-2024, 12:48 AM
What is this endless amount of data?
I guess the data isn't coming :lol
Nowoco
05-19-2024, 06:13 AM
Be hard to finish, looking at that face.
Doggy the only way.
Her face looks like some 7th grade upper middle class boy named Aiden, who plays golf every Sunday after church, grew his hair out and fu@ked around and let his sister straighten it with heat.
Or Dave Grohl when he was in Nirvana. She's ****in nasty.
https://i.ibb.co/qg6R7HK/licensed-image.jpg
beasted
05-19-2024, 02:02 PM
She may not be a diva, idol or beauty queen of some sorts. But somehow, her smile (https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQg2kL_70tsBCNjPKoJdgpTzVyW7eYuN _ABULO7dr4HkIMzi6bbWAwxVK0&s=10) rh can make her look very pretty.
Very very average looking. I'm not going to go as far as dissing and saying she is "ugly" like others though. Just basic.
If Caitlyn is cute or pretty (6-7), then that would make Angel Reese beautiful or gorgeous (8-9), which is too high a classification. Reese is cute, which would make Clark average.
https://www.sheknows.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/caitlin-clark-angel-reese.jpg
beasted
05-19-2024, 02:06 PM
Word. She made DiJonai Carrington look way sexier that she actually is, by comparison.
She's definitely cute on her own merit.
BarberSchool
05-19-2024, 04:36 PM
She's definitely cute on her own merit.
But next to Caitlin, DiJonai looked like a video vixen.
DiJonai and Angel Reece both going for the same thing, and they’re both 1,000 times sexier than any version of Caitlin, even if they have Caitlin lip fillers and a septum ring crazy fly eye makeup, and a cuter hairstyle …. She still gonna look like a middle school boy gone wrong.
There must be some subversive reason the media is pushing her so much, and that the NBA is wasting so much money on promoting such an inferior, destined-to-fail product.
beasted
05-19-2024, 08:03 PM
But next to Caitlin, DiJonai looked like a video vixen.
DiJonai and Angel Reece both going for the same thing, and they’re both 1,000 times sexier than any version of Caitlin, even if they have Caitlin lip fillers and a septum ring crazy fly eye makeup, and a cuter hairstyle …. She still gonna look like a middle school boy gone wrong.
There must be some subversive reason the media is pushing her so much, and that the NBA is wasting so much money on promoting such an inferior, destined-to-fail product.
I think it's pretty simple. Their league needs a Jordan. A player that comes in from day 1 and dominates scoring and is instantly an allstar and eventual multi-year MVP.
They are all hoping that's Clark.
tontoz
08-20-2024, 04:01 PM
is that why? another white hope bites the dust i guess.. peter mcneely of the wnba.. carry on
why couldn't you guys tell that she's a one trick pony with an exact skillset of the following - drive right, get cut off, behind-the-back counter, and if that fails, it's step-back time - why couldn't you guys see that was her entire game?
Another idiotic thread from OP. Didn't take long for the backfire.
SouBeachTalents
08-20-2024, 04:04 PM
OP's terrible takes extending into the WNBA :(
HylianNightmare
08-20-2024, 04:12 PM
She just broke the wnba rookie assist record
ILLsmak
08-20-2024, 04:56 PM
3ball is scared of WNBA players surpassing Mikey now :roll:
best post lol
-Smak
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