3ball told us Ant's "inferior" brand of ball couldn't beat Jokic's "superior" brand

[RRR3]

:lol:roll::roll::roll:

[1987_Lakers]

3ball taking a lot of L's in the last 24 hours.

[RRR3]

3ball taking a lot of L's in the last 24 hours.
If Ant wins a ring+FMVP, he's definitely found his new target for when LBJ retires.

[basketballcat]

6 out of 24. It was 100% KAT.

[RRR3]

6 out of 24. It was 100% KAT.
Sure Ant was bad today, but he was the reason they were in game 7 to begin with. You can't say he had a bad series.

[3ba11]

6 out of 24. It was 100% KAT.


that's why MJ is GOAT - everyone was completely carried compared to him

[3ba11]

:lol:roll::roll::roll:


My statement assumed that Ant would be leading the way, but it was KAT-ball tonight - no surprise that Ant-ball couldn't get it done and his brand needed to be more than offset by KAT.

[RRR3]

My statement assumed that Ant would be leading the way, but it was KAT-ball tonight - no surprise that this was needed to win.
Ant was the best player in the series :facepalm

[3ba11]

Ant was the best player in the series :facepalm


The while series was Game 7 - it came down to 1 game... Ant choked in the title game..

Don't be surprised that Ant is so much worse than MJ because Ant's been much worse for a while - at 18 years old, MJ won the national title while Ant was 5-13 in the SEC and a massive loser.

Understand that Minny flies by the seat of their pants on offense - they have no real brand of ball and formula to win offensively.. they rely on defense and the fact that they are the no-pressure team of these playoffs - every other team has massive pressure to win this year (Luka, Kyrie, Tatum), while Ant is playing with house money at 22 years old (and a teammates to carry him)

[RRR3]

The while series was Game 7 - it came down to 1 game... Ant choked in the title game..

Don't be surprised that Ant is so much worse than MJ because Ant's been much worse for a while - at 18 years old, MJ won the national title while Ant was 5-13 in the SEC and a massive loser.

Understand that Minny flies by the seat of their pants on offense - they have no real brand of ball and formula to win offensively.. they rely on defense and the fact that they are the no-pressure team of these playoffs - every other team has massive pressure to win this year (Luka, Kyrie, Tatum), while Ant is playing with house money at 22 years old.
So the first 6 games don't matter? :roll:

You constantly outdo yourself

[1987_Lakers]

Ant just beat the best white boy of his era, MJ was swept by the best white boy twice.

[SouBeachTalents]

The while series was Game 7 - it came down to 1 game... Ant choked in the title game..
Sounds like Kobe in 2010.

[RRR3]

Sounds like Kobe in 2010.
He will say it's different because Kobe didn't have Kat who's better than Pippen and Gobert who's the best defender ever. Not even joking he said this.

[3ba11]

Ant just beat the best white boy of his era, MJ was swept by the best white boy twice.


it's no comparison because Jordan averaged 40 against the #1 defense and goat team, while Ant averaged 27.7 against the no defense Nuggets (garbage team by comparison).

that's why MJ is goat - everyone else is totally carried by comparison

[beasted]

If 3ball is this insecure about Ant, I can just imagine the essays he was writing in 2006 when Wade went inferno in the Finals.

Touch grass clown. Edwards deserves no criticism and should have no expectations placed on him. Any player still playing on a rookie contract is playing on House money.

[RRR3]

If 3ball is this insecure about Ant, I can just imagine the essays he was writing in 2006 when Wade went inferno in the Finals.

Touch grass clown. Edwards deserves no criticism and should have no expectations placed on him. Any player still playing on a rookie contract is playing on House money.
He has a pathological need to behave like this and he's very worried about LeBron retiring soon so he has to find another target.

[3ba11]

If 3ball is this insecure about Ant, I can just imagine the essays he was writing in 2006 when Wade went inferno in the Finals.

Touch grass clown. Edwards deserves no criticism and should have no expectations placed on him. Any player still playing on a rookie contract is playing on House money.


Ant has no pressure, but he should if anyone is comparing him to MJ.. Ant currently has more help than MJ ever had... 18-year MJ won the national title, while Ant was 5-13 in the SEC - MJ would similarly have won an NBA title at 22 years old if he had one of the best casts in the league like Ant has... instead he had literally the worst.

[1987_Lakers]

Ant has no pressure, but he should if anyone is comparing him to MJ.. Ant currently has more help than MJ ever had.

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[sdot_thadon]

Ant has no pressure, but he should if anyone is comparing him to MJ.. Ant currently has more help than MJ ever had.

Ant got a 72--10 squad? What about one guy good enough to make both all nba and all defensive 1st team in the same season? I guess he has a guy similar to Rodmans impact with Gobert, where's his former 1st option that's the 5th best guy on his team? Or his European superstar that's his 6th man?

[RRR3]

Gobert=Rodman is a reasonable take, but Kat being equal or greater to Pippen is insane. And I really like KAT.

[3ba11]

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Stop pretending.. Gobert is the GOAT defender if we're going by DPOY's, while McDaniels is a budding star and guys like Mike Conley are rich man's Paxsons.. Meanwhile KAT outproduces Pippen quite easily (better stats) and led his team to a win over a top team with Ant wetting the bed - Pippen couldn't do that..

And KAT didn't need to win titles first to make All-NBA... Ultimately, Pippen never played above a peak Iguodala caliber, but the winning spotlight inflated him to all-time status and undeserved media accolade..

[FireDavidKahn]

In all fairness, 3ball is a moron

[ShawkFactory]

Stop pretending.. Gobert is the GOAT defender if we're going by DPOY's, while McDaniels is a budding star and guys like Mike Conley are rich man's Paxsons.. Meanwhile KAT outproduces Pippen quite easily (better stats) and led his team to a win over a top team with Ant wetting the bed - Pippen couldn't do that..

And KAT didn't need to win titles first to make All-NBA... Ultimately, Pippen never played above a peak Iguodala caliber, but the winning spotlight inflated him to all-time status and undeserved media accolade..

Tough night for you. My condolences.

[SouBeachTalents]

Tough night for you. My condolences.
:oldlol:

Tough night for us too, a dozen more Ant threads on the horizon. But I'm glad OP gets to stew over this one for a while.

[FireDavidKahn]

Ant got more help than MJ now?

Vegas had us losing to the Suns in round one.
Rudy was going to get played off the floor in the play offs.
KAT supposedly had such terrible trade value we wouldn't have been able to get anything for him bank during Christmas.

Now suddenly Ant has GOAT level help. Make up your minds!

[StrongLurk]

We all know 3ball is the worst poster in ISH history. Him constantly taking L's is not thread worthy OP. It happens all the time.

[tontoz]

For the series Ant averaged 28/6/5 with a 61% TS even with that bad game 7.The Denver defense was focused on him, not Kat. They had Murray guarding Kat a lot ffs of course Kat took advantage of that.

[3ba11]

I assumed that the Nuggets were champions (last year's caliber), so when the Wolves don't win the title this year (less than champions/Nuggets), that will essentially fulfill what I said, aka "down-hill" brand is less than championship caliber - this will be proven true when he gets beaten by Tatum... The best teams are always led by low hold-time guys like Tatum this year, Jokic last year, or Curry in 2022.

carry on

[NBAGOAT]

I assumed that the Nuggets were champions (last year's caliber), so when the Wolves don't win the title this year (less than champions/Nuggets), that will essentially fulfill what I said, aka "down-hill" brand is less than championship caliber - this will be proven true when he gets beaten by Tatum... The best teams are always led by low hold-time guys like Tatum this year, Jokic last year, or Curry in 2022.

carry on

wolves beat the nuggets... if you beat a championship caliber team you're championship caliber. tatum will win because he has the most help in the league. all-nba sidekick with 2 all star caliber players and jrue(all star last year) as a 5th guy. even a competent bench

[3ba11]

wolves beat the nuggets... if you beat a championship caliber team you're championship caliber.





That's incorrect - you have to win the championship to be "championship-caliber", so the Wolves aren't that - they simply beat a team that wasn't nearly as good as they were last year and no longer championship-caliber (champs).. The wolves will prove that they're championship caliber by winning the title this year - otherwise, they're short of championship caliber.

And Tatum will win this year because his low-hold time style is capable of developing great chemistry over time, which allows a great-performing cast, aka great team.. Otoh, the down-hill skillset employed by Ant, Lebron, Luka, SGA, etc imposes spot-up roles that stalls young players, thereby needing ready-made stars to win (can't win organically).

[Duffy Pratt]

That's incorrect - you have to win the championship to be "championship-caliber", so the Wolves aren't that - they simply beat a team that wasn't nearly as good as they were last year and no longer championship-caliber (champs).. The wolves will prove that they're championship caliber by winning the title this year - otherwise, they're short of championship caliber.

And Tatum will win this year because his low-hold time style is capable of developing great chemistry over time, which allows a great-performing cast, aka great team.. Otoh, the down-hill skillset employed by Ant, Lebron, Luka, SGA, etc imposes spot-up roles that stalls young players, thereby needing ready-made stars to win (can't win organically).

Will someone please dig up the thread where 3Ball insisted that the 89 Bulls were a championship team, so adding Jackson as a coach didn’t;t matter.

[Hey Yo]

That's incorrect - you have to win the championship to be "championship-caliber", so the Wolves aren't that - they simply beat a team that wasn't nearly as good as they were last year and no longer championship-caliber (champs).. The wolves will prove that they're championship caliber by winning the title this year - otherwise, they're short of championship caliber.

And Tatum will win this year because his low-hold time style is capable of developing great chemistry over time, which allows a great-performing cast, aka great team.. Otoh, the down-hill skillset employed by Ant, Lebron, Luka, SGA, etc imposes spot-up roles that stalls young players, thereby needing ready-made stars to win (can't win organically).
If that's the case, then shouldn't all the guys you've claimed over the years that are "all-star caliber teammates" actually make an all-star game first?

[3ba11]

If that's the case, then shouldn't all the guys you've claimed over the years that are "all-star caliber teammates" actually make an all-star game first?


Zydrunas made the all-star game in 2003 before Lebron entered the league and then again in 05'..

And the Cavs were a 5th year team in 2008 that only won 45 games... But then Mo's all-star spacing added 19 more wins by providing the spacing that Lebron's stiff-arm game needs..

Jamison was a 2x all-star that was averaging 22/9 before joining Lebron and cratering to 15/8.. Jamison famously outplayed and dominated Lebron in the 2007 1st Round (32/10 on 55%)... He was a rare 20k scorer and a better scorer than Pippen, so it was pretty nice for the 2010 Cavs - a 7th year organic juggernaut - to have a better scorer than Pippen as their THIRD option (while also having better team defensive rankings than the 1st three-peat Bulls).

And Larry Hughes wasn't an all-star but he was a 1st team defender in 2005 and steals champ, while averaging 22/6/5 and better production rate then 1990 Pippen across the board (PER, BPM, VORP, WS/48).. Imagine needing a 2x all-star center, HOF coach, and an acquisition that was playing better than 1990 Pippen on both sides of the ball just to make the playoffs like 06' Lebron.

[ShawkFactory]

That's incorrect - you have to win the championship to be "championship-caliber", so the Wolves aren't that - they simply beat a team that wasn't nearly as good as they were last year and no longer championship-caliber (champs).. The wolves will prove that they're championship caliber by winning the title this year - otherwise, they're short of championship caliber.

And Tatum will win this year because his low-hold time style is capable of developing great chemistry over time, which allows a great-performing cast, aka great team.. Otoh, the down-hill skillset employed by Ant, Lebron, Luka, SGA, etc imposes spot-up roles that stalls young players, thereby needing ready-made stars to win (can't win organically).

So you're saying that, by definition, it's impossible to beat a championship-caliber team?

[tpols]

I mean if we're being real... Ant is lucky to be in the WCFs right now. Denver literally had the biggest choke in NBA history on Sunday. And it wasn't even him that brought them back. It literally looked like the Nuggets stopped playing once they went up 20. They got comfortable.