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3ba11
05-20-2024, 09:28 PM
He will be humbled

The first time he felt a hint of pressure in Game 7, he shot 25%...

The Finals will certainly have this kind of pressure... But it's all just fun and games and surprising everyone right now

ShawkFactory
05-20-2024, 09:34 PM
Yea that’s true I don’t think anyone on the Nuggets even knew who he was before this.

3ba11
05-20-2024, 09:44 PM
Yea that’s true I don’t think anyone on the Nuggets even knew who he was before this.


He's too young to know what's going on and has been coddled so far in his career... This honeymoon, no-pressure period will end soon.. The Finals has a way of squeezing everyone - we saw "the game" from Lebron against the Pistons in 07' and it was all fun and games - but the Finals is always a different level and even the court has special graphics that looks more grand than any other round..

There was real pressure in Game 7 - the biggest game of Ant's life and he felt it - he responded by shooting 25%... This is far from the last time he starts to feel pressure as he gets older and the "next MJ" joke wears off

here's the thing - I didn't know that he was taunting the Nuggets' bench and had started to do some immature things out of youthful exuberance... This indicates that he's reaching his limit... It's starting to get a little to big for him - and he isn't ready... not yet

ShawkFactory
05-20-2024, 09:57 PM
Lol you know nothing about this guy.

You spinning your story is quite humorous though.

3ba11
05-20-2024, 10:04 PM
Lol you know nothing about this guy.

You spinning your story is quite humorous though.


I've seen brash young guys like him a million times - they always get humbled and shut down.

It's human nature.

Wait until he faces someone that is just as hungry but has actually cut their teeth

ShawkFactory
05-20-2024, 10:09 PM
Who’s going to humble him? They just took out the defending champs who had that vaunted superior brand of ball. Now they play “Luka-ball”.

I guess you’re a Celtic fan for the next few weeks. But if the Wolves out-physical them and win the series then what?

3ba11
05-20-2024, 10:32 PM
Who’s going to humble him? They just took out the defending champs who had that vaunted superior brand of ball. Now they play “Luka-ball”.

I guess you’re a Celtic fan for the next few weeks. But if the Wolves out-physical them and win the series then what?


You're making the case that Ant will get carried to a title by great bigs like Gobert, KAT and Naz Reid.

In this scenario, the numbers will show that Ant isn't carrying the team like MJ did... In addition to the lower scoring burden, Ant averages 0.7 offensive rebounds, compared to 1.6 for Jordan... Jordan averaged more offensive rebounds than a lot of frontcourt players like Lebron for example.

So it's a completely different caliber - Jordan is bigger, stronger and faster, while Ant can't offset this with better scoring, clutch or defense, since he's inferior in these areas as well.. Ant could never achieve Rodman-level rebounds for an entire playoff run like MJ did in 97' - MJ and Rodman co-led the rebounding on that run, while Ant will never be a rebounding leader for his team.

the rebounding, blocks, and steals are relevant because Ant and MJ play the same position.

Ultimately, there isn't a single aspect of basketball that Ant isn't inferior to MJ.. MJ even shoots threes better at today's volumes than Ant.

RRR3
05-20-2024, 10:50 PM
You're making the case that Ant will get carried to a title by great bigs like Gobert, KAT and Naz Reid.

In this scenario, the numbers will show that Ant isn't carrying the team like MJ did... In addition to the lower scoring burden, Ant averages 0.7 offensive rebounds, compared to 1.6 for Jordan... Jordan averaged more offensive rebounds than a lot of frontcourt players like Lebron for example.

So it's a completely different caliber - Jordan is bigger, stronger and faster, while Ant can't offset this with better scoring, clutch or defense, since he's inferior in these areas as well.. Ant could never achieve Rodman-level rebounds for an entire playoff run like MJ did in 97' - MJ and Rodman co-led the rebounding on that run, while Ant will never be a rebounding leader for his team.

the rebounding, blocks, and steals are relevant because Ant and MJ play the same position.

Ultimately, there isn't a single aspect of basketball that Ant isn't inferior to MJ.. MJ even shoots threes better at today's volumes than Ant.
Ant takes roughly 7-8 3s a game all 4 years of his career so far. Many are contested. MJ would be shooting like 15% with that shot profile.

NBAGOAT
05-20-2024, 11:41 PM
You're making the case that Ant will get carried to a title by great bigs like Gobert, KAT and Naz Reid.

In this scenario, the numbers will show that Ant isn't carrying the team like MJ did... In addition to the lower scoring burden, Ant averages 0.7 offensive rebounds, compared to 1.6 for Jordan... Jordan averaged more offensive rebounds than a lot of frontcourt players like Lebron for example.

So it's a completely different caliber - Jordan is bigger, stronger and faster, while Ant can't offset this with better scoring, clutch or defense, since he's inferior in these areas as well.. Ant could never achieve Rodman-level rebounds for an entire playoff run like MJ did in 97' - MJ and Rodman co-led the rebounding on that run, while Ant will never be a rebounding leader for his team.

the rebounding, blocks, and steals are relevant because Ant and MJ play the same position.

Ultimately, there isn't a single aspect of basketball that Ant isn't inferior to MJ.. MJ even shoots threes better at today's volumes than Ant.

First let’s not overplay 1 offensive rebound lol. Also hilarious you have to talk about all around olay for ant because he scores 10ppg more than his 2nd option in kat. With any other star you disregard any other aspect besides ppg but you can’t for ant this run. You say ant has goat lvl help how can he when his 2nd option scores 10ppg less that’s not good help based on your previous arguments. Either you concede you were wrong before or admit ant is carrying the wolves hard you can’t have it both ways

Duffy Pratt
05-21-2024, 12:52 AM
Just a week ago, you made this pronouncement:

“ SGA and Edwards won't win another game in these playoffs because their simpleton, down-hill brand has been solved... “

That was before OKC won game five, and of course, before MN won games 6 and 7. Like a broken clock, eventually you will be right about something, but almost certainly not for the reasons you rely on.

WhiteKyrie
05-21-2024, 09:01 AM
Are you threatened? He totally took Jamal Murray out of game 7 in the second half and for the series put clamps on him.

Da_Realist
05-21-2024, 09:26 AM
Ant played a good game despite the stats. He was a factor on the court because he was contributing in other ways than just scoring. Ant isn't carrying the Wolves but this is his team. Minny was soft and boring for years but now they are fierce and confident. Arrogant, even. Fearless. KAT looks different. Gobert looks different. They've taken on Ant's swagger and they'll go as far as Ant takes them. I'm excited to see what he does with this team.

3ba11
05-21-2024, 09:38 AM
Just a week ago, you made this pronouncement:

“ SGA and Edwards won't win another game in these playoffs because their simpleton, down-hill brand has been solved... “

That was before OKC won game five, and of course, before MN won games 6 and 7. Like a broken clock, eventually you will be right about something, but almost certainly not for the reasons you rely on.


Actually you guys use these rare wrong predictions to say that it's the norm when it obviously isn't.. get that hate out your heart son

3ba11
05-21-2024, 09:52 AM
Ant played a good game despite the stats. He was a factor on the court because he was contributing in other ways than just scoring. Ant isn't carrying the Wolves but this is his team. Minny was soft and boring for years but now they are fierce and confident. Arrogant, even. Fearless. KAT looks different. Gobert looks different. They've taken on Ant's swagger and they'll go as far as Ant takes them. I'm excited to see what he does with this team.


I heard Cowherd say "Ant just needs his Pippen to help him on his off-shooting nights", except that's exactly what KAT, McDaniels and Gobert did in Game 7 - they saved the team from his bed-wetting.. So he already has a few Pippen's plus Conley and others - he has more help than MJ ever had.

People will see that Ant is just another short guard like Rose, Francis or Wade - short primes - tiny guys that average 0.7 offensive rebounds so they can't get in there and bang like bigger SG's (1.6 for MJ).. MJ was bigger faster stronger, which matters when we're talking the same position.

Ant isn't carrying the team like Jordan did because he can't and also because he has more help than MJ ever had.. He's the worst "next Jordan yet".... Kobe and Tmac were better at 22... Wade was probably better too

ShawkFactory
05-21-2024, 09:54 AM
I heard Cowherd say "Ant just needs his Pippen to help him on his off-shooting nights", except that's exactly what KAT, McDaniels and Gobert did in Game 7 - they saved the team from his bed-wetting.. So he already has a few Pippen's plus Conley and others - he has more help than MJ ever had.

People will see that Ant is just another short guard like Rose, Francis or Wade - short primes - tiny guys that average 0.7 offensive rebounds so they can't get in there and bang like bigger SG's (1.6 for MJ).. MJ was bigger faster stronger, which matters when we're talking the same position.

Ant isn't carrying the team like Jordan did because he can't and also because he has more help than MJ ever had.. He's the worst "next Jordan yet".... Kobe and Tmac were better at 22... Wade was probably better too

He's certainly carrying the team. Over 10ppg greater than the next-best scoring teammate.

Ergo, he is carrying the scoring load and defeating maximum defensive attention.

WhiteKyrie
05-21-2024, 09:55 AM
Ant played a good game despite the stats. He was a factor on the court because he was contributing in other ways than just scoring. Ant isn't carrying the Wolves but this is his team. Minny was soft and boring for years but now they are fierce and confident. Arrogant, even. Fearless. KAT looks different. Gobert looks different. They've taken on Ant's swagger and they'll go as far as Ant takes them. I'm excited to see what he does with this team.

Yeah, no great player is carrying a team to an NBA championship by themselves. That goes without saying. He also clearly has been their best player the entire run. Like not even a contest. Denver had to send waves at him just to take the ball out of his hands, and he still distributed well, and played great defense, even in a tough shooting game. Every player has them, it’s how you can affect the game when your shot isn’t falling that is pretty impressive.

3ba11
05-21-2024, 10:17 AM
Yeah, no great player is carrying a team to an NBA championship by themselves. That goes without saying. He also clearly has been their best player the entire run. Like not even a contest. Denver had to send waves at him just to take the ball out of his hands, and he still distributed well, and played great defense, even in a tough shooting game. Every player has them, it’s how you can affect the game when your shot isn’t falling that is pretty impressive.


Just a bunch of lies here - Murray scored a point-a-minute against Ant - Ant guarded Murray for 7 minutes and Murray's scored 7 points on 3-7.. It's just a myth that he played good defense - his teammates had to comeback from 20 down because Ant was wetting the bed.. The 3rd quarter run by teammates wouldn't be necessary if Ant was holding down Murray in the 1st half.

16 points isn't acceptable.. Neither is 18.. This young Jordan stuff is going to blow up in everyone's face.. It will be a massive win for 3ball like all the other ones but you guys will ignore and pretend it didn't happen.. Even if he wins this year, he'll be carried by teammates compared to Jordan.. He will be inferior in every category.. The guy averages 0.7 offensive rebounds, so he can't get in there and bang like bigger SG's (1.6 for MJ).

tpols
05-21-2024, 11:26 AM
He's a great player, but his ego is out of control right now.

tpols
05-21-2024, 02:43 PM
https://youtu.be/LCe1WsjFp3Y?si=E3HIWhtlvw2wC3Nv

Wally450
05-21-2024, 03:49 PM
Lol you know nothing about this guy.

You spinning your story is quite humorous though.

Bingo.

3ba11
05-21-2024, 06:05 PM
https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-21-2024/5V4QtY.gif



Ant takes roughly 7-8 3s a game all 4 years of his career so far. Many are contested. MJ would be shooting like 15% with that shot profile.


Maybe you're unaware, but today's spaced-out defenders causes over 80% of threes to be "open" (4-6 feet from closest defender) or "wide open" (6+ feet) according to stats.nba.com

The high-screen and drive-and-kick format yields open kickouts by drawing the defense in, so Jordan would be able to wait behind the line for open threes just like everyone else in today's game - he would have tons of "shrug" games in today's game.. Of course he would have a sick step-back too since he already had one back then WITHOUT today's extra travel that they allow today.

FireDavidKahn
05-21-2024, 07:02 PM
I've seen brash young guys like him a million times - they always get humbled and shut down.

It's human nature.

Wait until he faces someone that is just as hungry but has actually cut their teeth

HE literally just sent the champs home:roll:

3ba11
05-22-2024, 11:57 PM
HE literally just sent the champs home:roll:


He literally just had his 3rd game under 20 points in his last 4 and got destroyed by Kyrie - "I got Kyrie!!*

basketballcat
05-23-2024, 02:01 AM
HE literally just sent the champs home:roll:

On 6 of 24 shooting? It was 100% KAT.

Soundwave
05-23-2024, 12:07 PM
He's a good player but people need to chill a bit. I don't think he is even a Kobe or Durant tier talent.

tpols
05-23-2024, 01:11 PM
He's a good player but people need to chill a bit. I don't think he is even a Kobe or Durant tier talent.

Kobe or Durant?

Shiiit... kyrie iced him. And the league gave him All NBA over Irving.

ShawkFactory
05-23-2024, 01:15 PM
Kobe or Durant?

Shiiit... kyrie iced him. And the league gave him All NBA over Irving.

Kyrie played 58 games.

sd3035
05-23-2024, 05:00 PM
I guess that's why they're comparing him to MJ

Jordan shriveled under pressure until Big Scottie and ref rigging lifted his fragile mental state enough to perform well in the playoffs

999Guy
05-23-2024, 05:31 PM
I got shit for saying it, he's not their best player. Lucky for him he has Gobert to pretty much play the best defense of the era maybe other than Dray. So it's easy mode for him.

If he plays decent behind Rudy's amazing defense and team leading performances he'll be in the Finals in no time.

3ba11
06-03-2024, 09:38 PM
He's certainly carrying the team. Over 10ppg greater than the next-best scoring teammate.

Ergo, he is carrying the scoring load and defeating maximum defensive attention.


He stunk.. Just like I said... Your post above was before Game 1 vs Mavs

another one for 3ball... but that's pretty standard at this point..

Now we wait for another expert jumpshooter (Tatum) to teach a talented ball-dominator a lesson in brand of ball and chemistry development.. Of course we know that expert jumpshooters allow the ball to move, so they allow the capacity for tremendous chemistry development, as required for a great-performing cast, aka great team.