Rudy Gobert in the 90s

[SATAN]

Could he be a top 10 C in the 90s? What do you think? :confusedshrug:

[Xiao Yao You]

Probably not. They would have tried to put too much weight on him and he would have had injuries.

Would The Bum be good anywhere at anytime?

[SATAN]

He's heavier than Mutombo, Ewing etc. :confusedshrug:

Toody is no challenge for Vlade Divac. :confusedshrug:

[Xiao Yao You]

Toody is no challenge for Vlade Divac. :confusedshrug:
Different type of players

[SATAN]

Why would they put weight on him if he's already heavier than most of the top Cs in the 90s? :confusedshrug:

[Xiao Yao You]

Why would they put weight on him if he's already heavier than most of the top Cs in the 90s? :confusedshrug:

Thats what they did back then. They didnt understand yet that bodies are only made to carry so much weight. Also he would have had to bang a lot more in a much more physical league that was built around post play

[Axe]

He's heavier than Mutombo, Ewing etc. :confusedshrug:

Toody is no challenge for Vlade Divac. :confusedshrug:
Probably more cumbersome as well.

[Xiao Yao You]

He's heavier than Mutombo, Ewing etc. :confusedshrug:

Toody is no challenge for Vlade Divac. :confusedshrug:

If hes heavier than ewing its because hes all muscle and ewing wasnt

[Xiao Yao You]

Probably more cumbersome as well.

Show me them guarding in space Bot :facepalm

[SATAN]

Thats what they did back then. They didnt understand yet that bodies are only made to carry so much weight. Also he would have had to bang a lot more in a much more physical league that was built around post play

The guys who were smaller had no issue though. Surely he would adjust to the style at the time. We know he's a dirty player now so he might have exceeded in the 90s. :confusedshrug:

[Xiao Yao You]

The guys who were smaller had no issue though. Surely he would adjust to the style at the time. We know he's a dirty player now so he might have exceeded in the 90s. :confusedshrug:

Now hes dirty. Trolls are always reaching. Maybe one day they ll actually hit upon something :roll:

[beasted]

Gobert probably would be a nobody in the 90s. The slow pace and lack of spacing required players to develop better post moves or to brute force it with low skill but max physicality.

I don't think frenchie would respond well to banging and getting elbowed in the mouth. He's a bit of a complainer to the refs.

He'd be a run of the mill Bryant Reeves type with the shortened career to match.

[SATAN]

Now hes dirty. Trolls are always reaching. Maybe one day they ll actually hit upon something :roll:

lol so he doesn't deliberately push people in the back when getting rebounds? He's been called for it in this current series and I've seen him doing it without the ref noticing. Pushing guys while they are in the air and all.

Then you got stuff like this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVi3Bo-3xsM

This is something Bill Laimbeer would be proud of.

[SouBeachTalents]

Gobert probably would be a nobody in the 90s. The slow pace and lack of spacing required players to develop better post moves or to brute force it with low skill but max physicality.

I don't think frenchie would respond well to banging and getting elbowed in the mouth. He's a bit of a complainer to the refs.

He'd be a run of the mill Bryant Reeves type with the shortened career to match.
This.

[Im Still Ballin]

Dikembe Mutombo

[Xiao Yao You]

Gobert probably would be a nobody in the 90s. The slow pace and lack of spacing required players to develop better post moves or to brute force it with low skill but max physicality.

I don't think frenchie would respond well to banging and getting elbowed in the mouth. He's a bit of a complainer to the refs.

He'd be a run of the mill Bryant Reeves type with the shortened career to match.

If reeves had put in the work like gobert has he might have good too. You dont over achieve without earning it. To say gobert wouldnt have been good in an era where post play dominated is short sighted. Only question would be rather his joints could handle playing with more weight

[Xiao Yao You]

lol so he doesn't deliberately push people in the back when getting rebounds? He's been called for it in this current series and I've seen him doing it without the ref noticing. Pushing guys while they are in the air and all.

Then you got stuff like this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVi3Bo-3xsM

This is something Bill Laimbeer would be proud of.

What player doesnt try to get away with what the refs cant see? They are probably out of the league. No one ever pushes him. It was just said he couldntbplay in the 90s because hes soft. Which is it? Cany have it both ways

[SATAN]

Yeah but I wouldn't defend a guy I like (LeBron obvious example) for pushing a guy in the air just because someone else does it. Gobert doesn't seem soft. For his size he restrains himself pretty well, unless it's against his own teammates as we can see here:

https://clasicodeportivo.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/gobert-anderson-1.gif

Seeing him really put those boxing skills to work would be amazing.

Was just wondering where people would rank him and for what reasons anyway. :confusedshrug:

[SATAN]

Dikembe Mutombo

Toody is arguably a more skilled offensive player...

[Xiao Yao You]

Yeah but I wouldn't defend a guy I like (LeBron obvious example) for pushing a guy in the air just because someone else does it. Gobert doesn't seem soft. For his size he restrains himself pretty well, unless it's against his own teammates as we can see here:

https://clasicodeportivo.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/gobert-anderson-1.gif

Seeing him really put those boxing skills to work would be amazing.

Was just wondering where people would rank him and for what reasons anyway. :confusedshrug:

You wereny wondering anything. Youvre just trolling. Thats what you do

[tontoz]

Toody is arguably a more skilled offensive player...


No chance :oldlol:

Deke had a nice jump hook and a decent midrange j. He could actually score in the post. He just didn't get the benefit of the lob dunks guys today get because of the poor spacing back then.

[Xiao Yao You]

No chance :oldlol:

Deke had a nice jump hook and a decent midrange j. He could actually score in the post. He just didn't get the benefit of the lob dunks guys today get because of the poor spacing back then.

Not sure hed be that good rim running

[90sgoat]

Toody is arguably a more skilled offensive player...

No way.

Mutumbo was decent at basic low post offense in his later career, Gobert has no moves at all.

Toody would be more important on defense and get more blocks though, because he'd be allowed to camp under the basket.

[j3lademaster]

This notion that every center needs to put on weight to play in the 90's is a myth and nothing more. If you put Embiid in the 90's he'd be the 2nd biggest star center next to Shaq, so Gobert would be able to handle the physicality from anyone(well, except Shaq but no one could). The reason we're seeing rosters get smaller is because as the average skill level goes up, skill plays more and more of a factor vs size.

[kawhileonard2]

Priest Lauderdale https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/l/laudepr01.html

[gengiskhan]

I'm just dreaming how many left-handed facial dunks slow moving with very long stides 6' 9" tony kukoc's long wingspan will have over Gobert while driving in the paint.

[RRR3]

He'd obviously be more respected in the 90s given his skillset.

[beasted]

If reeves had put in the work like gobert has he might have good too. You dont over achieve without earning it. To say gobert wouldnt have been good in an era where post play dominated is short sighted. Only question would be rather his joints could handle playing with more weight

When i said Reeves, that was only from a longevity and noteworthiness. Not a comparison of work ethic.

So by that measure, the die hard fans remember a "Bryant Reeves", but the average fan does not since he was never an allstar and Gobert wouldn't make any allstar, all-nba, etc in the 90s with the number of elite Centers. That's the reason that it's a fair and logical assumption to assume he'd be a basic forgotten player.

[Xiao Yao You]

When i said Reeves, that was only from a longevity and noteworthiness. Not a comparison of work ethic.

So by that measure, the die hard fans remember a "Bryant Reeves", but the average fan does not since he was never an allstar and Gobert wouldn't make any allstar, all-nba, etc in the 90s with the number of elite Centers. That's the reason that it's a fair and logical assumption to assume he'd be a basic forgotten player.

Like mutumbo is forgotten.

[beasted]

Like mutumbo is forgotten.

Mutumbo had better touch than Gobert, and even developed a jumper over time. Gobert doesn't even attempt shots outside of 5 feet unless they are end of shot clock heaves.

The rim running opportunities will simply be less for Rudy and it's a logical expectation that his scoring would go down.

[Xiao Yao You]

Mutumbo had better touch than Gobert, and even developed a jumper over time. Gobert doesn't even attempt shots outside of 5 feet unless they are end of shot clock heaves.

The rim running opportunities will simply be less for Rudy and it's a logical expectation that his scoring would go down.

Logical to assume he wouldnt be rim running and would have been working on his hook shot

[beasted]

Logical to assume he wouldnt be rim running and would have been working on his hook shot

And the slower pace and defense oriented rules would help him to keep his scoring averages the same?