The injuries really make the playoffs lose excitement. Just can’t get into it.

[Kblaze8855]

No less than 9 teams from the play in to now have had missing stars or key guys at some point.


Giannis
Butler
Dame
KP
Randle
Haliburton
Lavine(not that anyone cares)
Leonard
Mitchell and Allen both
Zion

Embiid was limping around.

Hell Brunson broke his hand in the Knicks last game.

Injuries always ultimately decide who wins but it’s happening at such a rate I’m barely bothering to watch some series.

I saw a graph showing injuries are in fact up in the playoffs in recent years, but I wish I could get one comparing it to previous decades. Feels like the playoffs were much less often ruined this way. And I’m not saying the players are soft. You know somebody like Jimmy Butler or Giannis would play in the playoffs if he could. I just want somebody to figure it the **** out. All that damn resting and saving yourself and guys seem to be out in the playoffs more Than the old days.

Is it increased effort in the short bursts they do play? What theories have you heard?

Load management ruins the regular season and guys still don’t stay healthy. Just makes for such a shit product. 8-9 legit difference makers go down or can barely suit up.

Just took all the wind out of the whole post season to me. I don’t care enough who wins to want anything but great matchups. This shit is boring and I don’t think there’s even anyone to blame.


The games can still be close sure…but that makes it even worse. Who wants to see a valiant but ultimately futile effort leave you wondering who would have won if half a dozen stars weren’t gone?

Im gonna rewatch house of the dragon before season 2 drops. I don’t need any more of this. I’ll check the score with 5 minutes left. Promise you won’t see me criticizing or praising anyone for anything I miss. Excuse me.

[Wardell Curry]

I've read resistance training with bands might be the culprit, years ago. Unsure where. But I just googled it and allegedly it's the opposite, though that doesn't make much sense given that people in the past weren't using bands, no?

[gengiskhan]

add Luka Doncic to the list......


its coming soon.......

[Wardell Curry]

What about the distance run per game? I have a feeling that this number has gone way up per game even compared to 50-60 years ago when the pace was "high."

[RRR3]

What about the distance run per game? I have a feeling that this number has gone way up per game even compared to 50-60 years ago when the pace was "high."
This is it.

[FultzNationRISE]

The likelyhood is there is a confluence of factors, but I’ll venture a theory on one factor. And it is just that… a theory.

It is a well documented and accepted fact in the scientific community - not just a sometimes leveraged political narrative - that testosterone levels in men have been continually diminishing with each decade. It’s just natural evolution of society. Kids grow up having it easier, they become physically softer.

There was an article a couple years ago about how soccer injuries were more common in women than in men. The article of course tried to use pretzel logic to blame the patriarchy, but in reality it makes sense women would be more prone to injury in physical competition, their bodies are simply less wired for it.

Young men today may just not be as biologically resistant to injury than they were in decades of old, when times were harder and testosterone was higher.

Again just a theory, and my guess is theres multiple factors involved. Theres also MORE stars than ever so inevitably there will be more to notice missing.

[FultzNationRISE]

What about the distance run per game? I have a feeling that this number has gone way up per game even compared to 50-60 years ago when the pace was "high."

Another likely factor.

[Wardell Curry]

The likelyhood is there is a confluence of factors, but I’ll venture a theory on one factor. And it is just that… a theory.

It is a well documented and accepted fact in the scientific community - not just a sometimes leveraged political narrative - that testosterone levels in men have been continually diminishing with each decade. It’s just natural evolution of society. Kids grow up having it easier, they become physically softer.

There was an article a couple years ago about how soccer injuries were more common in women than in men. The article of course tried to use pretzel logic to blame the patriarchy, but in reality it makes sense women would be more prone to injury in physical competition, their bodies are simply less wired for it.

Young men today may just not be as biologically resistant to injury than they were in decades of old, when times were harder and testosterone was higher.

Again just a theory, and my guess is theres multiple factors involved. Theres also MORE stars than ever so inevitably there will be more to notice missing.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/may/20/microplastics-human-testicles-study-sperm-counts

[tpols]

You know somebody like Jimmy Butler or Giannis would play in the playoffs if he could.


I... wouldn't be so sure.

Guys nowadays sit out for the new contract and extra ~100s of millions of dollars especially if they already won.

Back in the day? Everybody played 82 plus playoffs no matter what. Youd have to snap one of their limbs to have it be otherwise.

And even then we saw guys like Isiah Thomas hop around on on leg no joke and go nuts.

[SATAN]

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/may/20/microplastics-human-testicles-study-sperm-counts

The funniest part is society will not change for something like this. Gotta keep the graphs looking pretty. Gotta keep bickering.

[Wardell Curry]

The funniest part is society will not change for something like this. Gotta keep the graphs looking pretty. Gotta keep bickering.

I agree that it should but you can't just wish upon a star and things will change. You can sit on your high horse all you want and so can everyone else, but where's the replacement for plastic? It's in everything.

[SATAN]

I agree that it should but you can't just wish upon a star and things will change. You can sit on your high horse all you want and so can everyone else, but where's the replacement for plastic? It's in everything.

There are none. Plastic is cheap to make and it seems most people have no desire to go without things or be inconvenienced. There's no magic thing around the corner that will fix this. It's always about the bottom line. Humans won't come together on important issues regardless of how harmful they are (as we've already seen). Greed, power, deception etc. The warnings were heard a very, very long time ago. Like trying to stop an avalanche with your bare hands...




































































:milton

[BarberSchool]

So many collaborative and cumulative causes:

I’ll add several recent:

-Food quality controls and other standards lowering.

-in the unfortunate percentage, when the tip of the needle was in a capillary bed, vein, or artery when the plunger was depressed…Covid shots negatively effecting the immune systems, slowing recovery and healing factors, and accelerating aging as a result.

[BarberSchool]

^this is why at the very least, these shots shouldn’t have been given out at CVS & Walgreens, Duane Reade, etc … but by at the very least, veteran phlebotomists, if not interventional radiologists or another similar expert, who could ensure than MRNA instructions that teach ribosomes to create cytotoxic proteins, don’t enter capillary beds, veins, or arteries immediately upon depressing the plungers.

This affected people with very vascular deltoids and biceps, much more frequently than lazy doughy piles of sh!t, with little to no excess vascular in their uppper arms. Hence high level athletes having higher rates of side effects than the general public.

[Kblaze8855]

Haliburton sitting out tonight as well.

The Celtics have somehow played 3 straight teams without their best players. It’s like the playoffs haven’t even started in the East.

[FultzNationRISE]

Haliburton sitting out tonight as well.

The Celtics have somehow played 3 straight teams without their best players. It’s like the playoffs haven’t even started in the East.

New York-Philly was pretty much the only series that felt legit. Sure, Embiid appeared to be hurting whenever his shots didnt go in, but overall it was a competitive series with healthy teams and no excuses.

[FKAri]

^this is why at the very least, these shots shouldn’t have been given out at CVS & Walgreens, Duane Reade, etc … but by at the very least, veteran phlebotomists, if not interventional radiologists or another similar expert, who could ensure than MRNA instructions that teach ribosomes to create cytotoxic proteins, don’t enter capillary beds, veins, or arteries immediately upon depressing the plungers.

This affected people with very vascular deltoids and biceps, much more frequently than lazy doughy piles of sh!t, with little to no excess vascular in their uppper arms. Hence high level athletes having higher rates of side effects than the general public.

Guys aren't recovering slower. Fatigue injuries are declining not increasing. So this is definitely not the cause.


There are none. Plastic is cheap to make and it seems most people have no desire to go without things or be inconvenienced. There's no magic thing around the corner that will fix this. It's always about the bottom line. Humans won't come together on important issues regardless of how harmful they are (as we've already seen). Greed, power, deception etc. The warnings were heard a very, very long time ago. Like trying to stop an avalanche with your bare hands...

Guys aren't sitting out due to reproductive health or Cancers. There are other health issues PFAS, etc could be affecting but it doesn't explain basketball injuries going up faster than in other sports.

It's mostly because the nature of the game has shifted away from strength to quickness and size. Guys are skinnier, longer, weaker and accelerating and decelerating in space more than ever.

[Wardell Curry]

Guys aren't recovering slower. Fatigue injuries are declining not increasing. So this is definitely not the cause.



Guys aren't sitting out due to reproductive health or Cancers. There are other health issues PFAS, etc could be affecting but it doesn't explain basketball injuries going up faster than in other sports.

It's mostly because the nature of the game has shifted away from strength to quickness and size. Guys are skinnier, longer, weaker and accelerating and decelerating in space more than ever.

I don't think anyone was suggesting that guys are sitting out injured due to microplastics. I was merely making a commentary about the reason for testosterone levels dropping in men, of which there are a few, but this is probably the biggest.