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Kblaze8855
05-26-2024, 04:08 PM
….. his ball first, but no make it take it….1s and 2s at a local high school….. you do not have to clear rebounds and go out to the line but he does. What percent chance do you give him of coming back to win if a superMax contract is on the line for him and nothing is on the line for you but pride?

You just have to score 10 before he scores 100.

What percent chance do you give him of winning?

FultzNationRISE
05-26-2024, 04:16 PM
At my current age and conditioning, he'd very likely win.

In my athletic prime I feel pretty confident I'd take it.

Wardell Curry
05-26-2024, 04:28 PM
I haven't touched a basketball in years. Am I allowed to practice my jumper every day for a month first? If not, I have 0 shot. If yes, I need to make 4 shots before he makes 30-50 shots. Do I get the ball without having to rebound his misses? Some play with that rule, some keep the ball live on a miss.

If a month of daily practice + I get the ball on his misses, yes I am winning. If either of those are not true, I am 100% losing.

BarberSchool
05-26-2024, 04:39 PM
He’s a little dude with a short wingspan, no chance he scores even 25-30 before I get ten. That’s with me clearing past 3pt line just like he has to.

Real Men Wear Green
05-26-2024, 04:56 PM
None but I would offer to let him win for a 1% cut just to see if he bites.

Wardell Curry
05-26-2024, 06:06 PM
He’s a little dude with a short wingspan, no chance he scores even 25-30 before I get ten. That’s with me clearing past 3pt line just like he has to.

Kyrie is 6'2" and in elite athletic shape.

3ba11
05-26-2024, 10:53 PM
zero

negative 100 actually

tpols
05-26-2024, 11:01 PM
No winners ball? So he'd have to make 100 straight shots and I'd have to make 10?

If he came within 20 shots I'd start cheap shotting him.

Wardell Curry
05-26-2024, 11:03 PM
Oh it's 1's and 2's? I didn't even read past the thread title really. I need to make 10 baskets or 5 2's which are really nba threes? I'm probably losing 100 out of 100 times we run this, even with practice.

sd3035
05-26-2024, 11:07 PM
I'm not a manlet like most people here so I'd probably win

I could never defend him but I'd easily get shots off, so I'd just have to go 10 for 90

Wardell Curry
05-26-2024, 11:13 PM
I'm not a manlet like most people here so I'd probably win

I could never defend him but I'd easily get shots off, so I'd just have to go 10 for 90

I don't think you appreciate just how much of better shape Kyrie is in than you. I also don't think, as bad as his NBA defense is, you understand what kind of pressure he could put on you.

Brian Scalibrine worked a bunch of idiotic fans that thought they could beat him, including a guy that played limited D1 ball. And Scal was an absolute scrub by NBA standards. Kyrie is one of the best hundred or two players to ever play the game, lol.

I just think I can make 3 shots before he hits 30-50 shots. But me hitting 7-10 shots before he hits 50-70? Probably not, although the ratios are close.

FultzNationRISE
05-26-2024, 11:14 PM
Kyrie is 6'2" and in elite athletic shape.

He’s not 6’2. He’s 6’0 tops. The heights are all inflated.

Wardell Curry
05-26-2024, 11:17 PM
He’s not 6’2. He’s 6’0 tops. The heights are all inflated.

At the draft combine, Kyrie Irving was measured at 6'3.5" with shoes, and 6'1.75" without shoes.

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro?SeasonYear=2011-12

tpols
05-26-2024, 11:20 PM
He’s not 6’2. He’s 6’0 tops. The heights are all inflated.

Was gonna say. Kyrie looks small.

No way he weighs more than 185. He's skinny but efficient.

BarberSchool
05-26-2024, 11:29 PM
Kyrie is 6'2" and in elite athletic shape.

I’ve stood on the same floor as he has. With Rose, LeBron, Mozgov, Shumpert, Marion.

Kyrie is 6’0.5-6’1” and his wingspan isn’t long at all. He moves even smaller.
He moves and accounted space a lot like a less lanky, less explosive Iverson, with much better shooting.
I’m a little bit bigger than Ant. Former D-1 SG.

I’d get to ten before he got to 20-25, no question. He would punk me on at least 7-8 possessions, but Blaze said it wasn’t make it take it. That’s the key.

iamgine
05-26-2024, 11:33 PM
….. his ball first, but no make it take it….1s and 2s at a local high school….. you do not have to clear rebounds and go out to the line but he does. What percent chance do you give him of coming back to win if a superMax contract is on the line for him and nothing is on the line for you but pride?

You just have to score 10 before he scores 100.

What percent chance do you give him of winning?

What would happen is during this long a$$ game I would ask him to give me like $20M and I'll let him win.

Else I'll hard foul him often and put my feet under him. Just make it generally not worth it for him not to give me the $.

We'll haggle and settle on around $8-12M.

I'll let him know he better pay up or he'll never have peace in his life or his children's life ever.

If he pays he pays. If he doesn't then oh well. I only wagered pride in the first place.

BarberSchool
05-26-2024, 11:33 PM
At the draft combine, Kyrie Irving was measured at 6'3.5" with shoes, and 6'1.75" without shoes.

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro?SeasonYear=2011-12have you been on the same floor with him and seen him MOVE 5 feet away from you? His posture and stature and length are exactly like a 6’0.5”-6’1” dude.

He MOVES very small, and low, with very little “catch radius”, despite moving laterally very well on offense. He can really cover lateral space with a live dribble, but has litttle to no extension defensively to reach and to contest.

ralph_i_el
05-27-2024, 10:49 AM
I'm guaranteed to get the ball at least 50 times minimum. I'd run him off the 3 point line every possession and let him shoot a 2 (if possible). I think I could get off enough jumpers to get 10 out of say, 65 tries. The strongest part of my game is turnarounds and floaters. I hit some wild shots in 21 with 2 guys on me. I've got a 6'3" wingspan. I'll shoot whatever bad shot I need just to get it off. I was a decent college water polo player, and I shoot for ~5 hours a week. My cardio is excellent.

So....I guess I'd give myself a 30% chance? Would have a lot of fun regardless.

sd3035
05-27-2024, 01:28 PM
I don't think you appreciate just how much of better shape Kyrie is in than you. I also don't think, as bad as his NBA defense is, you understand what kind of pressure he could put on you.

Brian Scalibrine worked a bunch of idiotic fans that thought they could beat him, including a guy that played limited D1 ball. And Scal was an absolute scrub by NBA standards. Kyrie is one of the best hundred or two players to ever play the game, lol.

I just think I can make 3 shots before he hits 30-50 shots. But me hitting 7-10 shots before he hits 50-70? Probably not, although the ratios are close.



Not everyone is an out of shape manlet like you

ArbitraryWater
05-27-2024, 01:55 PM
Odd stipulations.

Thought there was money in it for me :D

ArbitraryWater
05-27-2024, 01:57 PM
I'm not a manlet like most people here so I'd probably win

I could never defend him but I'd easily get shots off, so I'd just have to go 10 for 90

You actually ****ing wouldnt.

Youd heave up prayers every time because once you get body to body its over and you wont keep your dribble.

sdot_thadon
05-27-2024, 03:47 PM
I'd like to think I could score 10 before he scores 90 but the obvious answer is we're fixing that game and I get a small cut of the supermax :pimp:

AlternativeAcc.
05-28-2024, 05:21 PM
You guys are delusional. He would get a layup every possession (so there would be no points from instant putback after rebounds) and clamp y'all from the 3 point line and force horrible airballs and probably block most of the shots.

The key here is motivation. He's one of the most skilled dudes of all time and if he's serious he's easily winning in this scenario. I'm a great athlete but even d1 bench players are on a different level and made me look hopeless.


Again, you guys are delusional. Kyrie beats everyone in here easily. He's used to matching up with some of the best athletes in the world on a nightly basis. It would be so easy for him. Even if you're a great shooter he's gonna be in your face while you attempt 30+ footers. You're not hitting those on him if he's trying full go.

FultzNationRISE
05-28-2024, 06:15 PM
You guys are delusional. He would get a layup every possession (so there would be no points from instant putback after rebounds) and clamp y'all from the 3 point line and force horrible airballs and probably block most of the shots.

The key here is motivation. He's one of the most skilled dudes of all time and if he's serious he's easily winning in this scenario. I'm a great athlete but even d1 bench players are on a different level and made me look hopeless.


Again, you guys are delusional. Kyrie beats everyone in here easily. He's used to matching up with some of the best athletes in the world on a nightly basis. It would be so easy for him. Even if you're a great shooter he's gonna be in your face while you attempt 30+ footers. You're not hitting those on him if he's trying full go.

The sentiment that he would generally dominate everyone here is correct, but 1 on 1 is different from 5 on 5. Size matters more in 1 on 1.

Kyrie’s not a big dude by basketball standards. Yes he can guard NBA players but he also has teammates out there limiting what an opponent can try. You cant just back him down slowly from the three point line, because someone else will come over and get a swipe or a swat. In 1 on 1, if hes up against someone who’s just bigger and stronger, hes probably not getting a stop every time. Anyone who’s Ky’s height or taller and has a decent hook shot is gonna get SOME points on him.

Again clearly nobody here is beating him or anything close. But scoring one point for every 10 he does? It’s not implausible for decent players who match up “well” with him for this scenario.

FultzNationRISE
05-28-2024, 06:19 PM
Remember, guys:



https://tnj.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/johnR.jpg



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AlternativeAcc.
05-28-2024, 06:37 PM
The sentiment that he would generally dominate everyone here is correct, but 1 on 1 is different from 5 on 5. Size matters more in 1 on 1.

Kyrie’s not a big dude by basketball standards. Yes he can guard NBA players but he also has teammates out there limiting what an opponent can try. You cant just back him down slowly from the three point line, because someone else will come over and get a swipe or a swat. In 1 on 1, if hes up against someone who’s just bigger and stronger, hes probably not getting a stop every time. Anyone who’s Ky’s height or taller and has a decent hook shot is gonna get SOME points on him.

Again clearly nobody here is beating him or anything close. But scoring one point for every 10 he does? It’s not implausible for decent players who match up “well” with him for this scenario.
The problem is that even if you're bigger than Kyrie, there is still a massive skill difference on both offense and defense. Kyrie is around 200 poinds with refined basketball strength, so maybe you're bigger but he's very likely much stronger than you in the post just from years and years of refined training in those positions. He's stealing the ball with ease. He's tiring you out WAY MORE then you could ever tire him out. On offense he is methodically driving on every possession. He would literally be conserving energy on offense by dribbling with his back faced towards you... You're getting tired and he's barely working. Times his burst to the basket, easy layup. Rinse and repeat.



The sheer underestimating of kyries strength and skills in relation to the average dude on this forum is hilarious in this thread. The fact that kblaze laid out a scenario where he's playing for tens of millions of dollars makes it such an easy assessment. He's not losing to anybody here. I'm very confident in that. Regardless of how big the person is. There is just way too big of a skill difference.

90sgoat
05-28-2024, 06:48 PM
Depends, does Kyrie hug me before the game? I don't think I could make a move just from warm fuzzy feelings of the Kyrie bromance.

:crazysam:

sd3035
05-28-2024, 07:33 PM
You actually ****ing wouldnt.

Youd heave up prayers every time because once you get body to body its over and you wont keep your dribble.


Not everyone here is a skinny fat wimpy German dweeb. Kyrie's only option would be to go for a steal or let me miss

3ba11
05-28-2024, 08:35 PM
I’ve stood on the same floor as he has. With Rose, LeBron, Mozgov, Shumpert, Marion.

Kyrie is 6’0.5-6’1” and his wingspan isn’t long at all. He moves even smaller.
He moves and accounted space a lot like a less lanky, less explosive Iverson, with much better shooting.
I’m a little bit bigger than Ant. Former D-1 SG.

I’d get to ten before he got to 20-25, no question. He would punk me on at least 7-8 possessions, but Blaze said it wasn’t make it take it. That’s the key.


Thank you... Finally a reasonable response.

iamgine
05-28-2024, 08:46 PM
The problem is that even if you're bigger than Kyrie, there is still a massive skill difference on both offense and defense. Kyrie is around 200 poinds with refined basketball strength, so maybe you're bigger but he's very likely much stronger than you in the post just from years and years of refined training in those positions. He's stealing the ball with ease. He's tiring you out WAY MORE then you could ever tire him out. On offense he is methodically driving on every possession. He would literally be conserving energy on offense by dribbling with his back faced towards you... You're getting tired and he's barely working. Times his burst to the basket, easy layup. Rinse and repeat.



The sheer underestimating of kyries strength and skills in relation to the average dude on this forum is hilarious in this thread. The fact that kblaze laid out a scenario where he's playing for tens of millions of dollars makes it such an easy assessment. He's not losing to anybody here. I'm very confident in that. Regardless of how big the person is. There is just way too big of a skill difference.

Ehh I've played skilled dudes before and they all fall the same when you sweep their legs.

BarberSchool
05-29-2024, 12:05 AM
The problem is that even if you're bigger than Kyrie, there is still a massive skill difference on both offense and defense. Kyrie is around 200 poinds with refined basketball strength, so maybe you're bigger but he's very likely much stronger than you in the post just from years and years of refined training in those positions. He's stealing the ball with ease. He's tiring you out WAY MORE then you could ever tire him out. On offense he is methodically driving on every possession. He would literally be conserving energy on offense by dribbling with his back faced towards you... You're getting tired and he's barely working. Times his burst to the basket, easy layup. Rinse and repeat.



The sheer underestimating of kyries strength and skills in relation to the average dude on this forum is hilarious in this thread. The fact that kblaze laid out a scenario where he's playing for tens of millions of dollars makes it such an easy assessment. He's not losing to anybody here. I'm very confident in that. Regardless of how big the person is. There is just way too big of a skill difference.The problem on internet message boards where half the posters are sub-6ft chubby dudes who never played college ball, many who probably didn’t even start on their HS varsity team….

… is those little dudes assume they’re “regular” and every other poster must be “regular like them” lol

I’m no doubt MUCH stronger than Kyrie. Not just bigger. I sparred at Duke Roufus against Matt Mitrione (beat the sh!t out of Kimbo Slice, former NFL defensive lineman), and Patrick Berry (former K-1 kickboxer and UFC heavyweight)

Kyrie even a few years ago when i saw him in chicago was not even that strong for a pro ball player. He’s almost always the weakest guy on the floor, and the smallest. And with the smallest wingspan and ability to exert strength with his hands at the end of his wingspan. The strength difference between Rose and Kyrie doesn’t show up much on TV. It’s monumental in person on the same floor. On TV, Shumpert doesn’t look THAT MUCH bigger and stronger than Kyrie, but i assure everyone, if you met them together, Shumpert makes kyrie look very small and very weak.

Just because Kyrie could score 90 on YOU before you score a measly fkn 10 on him, doesn’t mean other posters can’t :roll

Get ahold of yourselves. It’s not even make it take it. That right there makes it not that hard to get outscored badly but still GET TO 10 before Kyrie gets to 90. Sheesh.

Manny98
05-29-2024, 01:01 PM
Omg at the amount of people in this thread thinking they can get 10 :roll:

All of you have zero chance, he would literally score 99% of the time and he would clamp you up if you somehow got the ball

3ba11
05-29-2024, 01:32 PM
Omg at the amount of people in this thread thinking they can get 10 :roll:

All of you have zero chance, he would literally score 99% of the time and he would clamp you up if you somehow got the ball


^^^ that's where you're wrong

if it were make-it-take-it, he could conceivably score 100 in a row, but it isn't - we get the ball back every time he scores.... And btw, just because we could score on him 1-on-1 doesn't mean we could score on him in a sanctioned 5-on-5 game.. That's why he's Kyrie and we're forum posters.. He can do all the best moves against the very best comp in front of 20 thousand people in a 5-on-5 game, while we can maybe get a few good shots off in 1-on-1 in empty gym after posting up for 20 seconds or otherwise lulling him to sleep.. So you just don't know how hoops works - 1-on-1 isn't anything like a real 5-on-5 game.

Manny98
05-29-2024, 01:59 PM
^^^ that's where you're wrong

if it were make-it-take-it, he could conceivably score 100 in a row, but it isn't - we get the ball back every time he scores.... And btw, just because we could score on him 1-on-1 doesn't mean we could score on him in a sanctioned 5-on-5 game.. That's why he's Kyrie and we're forum posters.. He can do all the best moves against the very best comp in front of 20 thousand people in a 5-on-5 game, while we can maybe get a few good shots off in 1-on-1 in empty gym after posting up for 20 seconds or otherwise lulling him to sleep.. So you just don't know how hoops works - 1-on-1 isn't anything like a real 5-on-5 game.
You'll be lucky to score once against Irving let alone 10 times, if you could you would be playing professionally and not posting on here 24/7

Kblaze8855
05-29-2024, 03:48 PM
That’s not Necessarily true. NBA players get scored on by people who aren’t anywhere close to professional all the time. Especially guard on guard. It’s true that they are stronger than they look, but that mostly applies to the big guys. High school players could get buckets on Kyrie. Not enough to win a real serious game but nba players trade baskets with non pros all the time if you’re around them.

The size and ridiculous consistency is what makes them gods among men in real games. Shammond Williams played us all the time and while he wouldn’t miss….he got scored on by absolute nobodies. I’ve seen regular guys score on Kevin Garnett in person and he goes hard even versus mere mortals.

A few lucky shots aren’t out of the question at all. But he’s gonna score on a normal person like they arent even there. And if Shammond was any indication(and I’m sure he isn’t) He probably won’t even need to do it off layups. Kyrie would probably shoot 75 or 80% taking nothing but threes versus normal people if he really wanted it. Thats where they are freaky. They just don’t miss. Covered or not. They shoot like nobody is there. They don’t even feel your contest.

And the nba players I played were definitely not Kyrie Irving.

dankok8
05-29-2024, 04:28 PM
Kyrie would win easily in this scenario. I don't think people on here understand how good NBA players are. Maybe if someone on here is very tall and physically dominant over Kyrie like say 6'5'' 250 lbs, they'd have a shot just posting him up and trying to score. Maybe just maybe they could score 10 points. But probably not...

Wally450
05-30-2024, 10:09 AM
He's got to score 90 points with no make it take it? I could just step back and put up prayers when its my possession. I could get a couple of them to drop. Where I only need 10, I believe I could do it, even with 1s and 2s.

Not to mention, I could poach any misses he has from deep because I don't have to clear it.

tpols
05-30-2024, 10:45 AM
Omg at the amount of people in this thread thinking they can get 10 :roll:

All of you have zero chance, he would literally score 99% of the time and he would clamp you up if you somehow got the ball

He would literally have to make 100 baskets aka score 200 points. And get 100 stops. That's pretty heavy work.

You could chuck from deep at 5% shooting and score 10 points. Some of us here aren't midgets. We could get heaves off over kyrie whose not even a big dude. And hitting @5% shooting is do-able. Even scrubs could do that.

sd3035
05-30-2024, 11:35 AM
That’s not Necessarily true. NBA players get scored on by people who aren’t anywhere close to professional all the time. Especially guard on guard. It’s true that they are stronger than they look, but that mostly applies to the big guys. High school players could get buckets on Kyrie. Not enough to win a real serious game but nba players trade baskets with non pros all the time if you’re around them.

The size and ridiculous consistency is what makes them gods among men in real games. Shammond Williams played us all the time and while he wouldn’t miss….he got scored on by absolute nobodies. I’ve seen regular guys score on Kevin Garnett in person and he goes hard even versus mere mortals.

A few lucky shots aren’t out of the question at all. But he’s gonna score on a normal person like they arent even there. And if Shammond was any indication(and I’m sure he isn’t) He probably won’t even need to do it off layups. Kyrie would probably shoot 75 or 80% taking nothing but threes versus normal people if he really wanted it. Thats where they are freaky. They just don’t miss. Covered or not. They shoot like nobody is there. They don’t even feel your contest.

And the nba players I played were definitely not Kyrie Irving.


Finally some common sense

sd3035
05-30-2024, 11:36 AM
He would literally have to make 100 baskets aka score 200 points. And get 100 stops. That's pretty heavy work.

You could chuck from deep at 5% shooting and score 10 points. Some of us here aren't midgets. We could get heaves off over kyrie whose not even a big dude. And hitting @5% shooting is do-able. Even scrubs could do that.

I think the guys saying it's impossible are skinny fat manlet dweebs who post on reddit

tpols
05-30-2024, 11:50 AM
I remember playing a starting guard at rutgers at the Livingston gym when I was 18 and a 6"4 string bean and he was an alumni probably in his mid 20s black guy and we played 1v1. He beat me, but I scored a couple of buckets on him. With such lopsided odds this isn't impossible. If it were vs like Lebron or some other super athlete... no. I don't believe I'd have even a 1% chance if he was trying. Vs a little guy is a whole different story.

RRR3
05-30-2024, 12:58 PM
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/632/306/a8f.jpg
:roll::roll::roll:

tpols
05-30-2024, 01:09 PM
:roll::roll::roll:

The irony is YOU would almost certainly lose against this extreme handicap on kyrie. Being a chubby, unathletic, goofy nerd type with absolutely no game whatsoever... :lol

It's almost like a universal paradox that you even talk ball so much when it's obvious you never played. Oozing spitefulness in every post... It'd be hilarious to see your curly headed ass even dribble or take a jumpshot. It would look like a blooper reel.

warriorfan
05-30-2024, 01:27 PM
The irony is YOU would almost certainly lose against this extreme handicap on kyrie. Being a chubby, unathletic, goofy nerd type with absolutely no game whatsoever... :lol

It's almost like a universal paradox that you even talk ball so much when it's obvious you never played. Oozing spitefulness in every post... It'd be hilarious to see your curly headed ass even dribble or take a jumpshot. It would look like a blooper reel.

We don’t even need to bring out Kyrie


RRR3 vs a 65 year old Bob Cousy

It would be a murder