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Kblaze8855
05-28-2024, 01:14 PM
Be about 5 years 245. So he’s off the table for the couple teams that were gonna take a look.

NBAGOAT
05-28-2024, 01:18 PM
think thats too much but indiana has no choice and he was good in the playoffs

warriorfan
05-28-2024, 01:21 PM
Be about 5 years 245. So he’s off the table for the couple teams that were gonna take a look.

eh, he’s a good fit for indy, as a big man he runs the floor as good as anyone….indy is already pot invested since they gave up a decent amount to trade for him. I don’t think tons of free agents are rushing over to Indy too so they are kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place



it’s not great but not terrible i would say. the back end of the contract might get rough, I think it extends into his mid 30’s? 5 years is along time though maybe by that time the cap will raise and a 50 mil hit won’t be as bad.

Real Men Wear Green
05-28-2024, 01:23 PM
think thats too much but indiana has no choice and he was good in the playoffs
It's the going rate. If the Pacers were average maybe don't do it but they made the Conference finals and were competitive so their potential is worth exploring. Worst case scenario a contender that needs a forward would trade for him.

Wardell Curry
05-28-2024, 01:37 PM
:roll:

Another one.

NBAGOAT
05-28-2024, 01:40 PM
eh, he’s a good fit for indy, as a big man he runs the floor as good as anyone….indy is already pot invested since they gave up a decent amount to trade for him. I don’t think tons of free agents are rushing over to Indy too so they are kinda stuck between a rock and a hard place



it’s not great but not terrible i would say. the back end of the contract might get rough, I think it extends into his mid 30’s? 5 years is along time though maybe by that time the cap will raise and a 50 mil hit won’t be as bad.

cap wont go up that much. Guys who make that right now are ad, luka, trae, lavine, fvv, edwards, haliburton, sabonis. Little more than ben simmons and kyrie, some guys are underpaid on the 30% max because it's their first contract like ad and luka but some are definitely overpaid like lavine fvv, Siakam is better than the last 2 but he's closer to 2nd group than 1st obviously

BurningHammer
05-28-2024, 01:47 PM
Congrats to Spicy P. He earns it.

jayfan
05-28-2024, 02:15 PM
It's so aggravating that he made the same mistakes at the end of both games 3 & 4. But he was very good throughout the playoffs.

Pacers are set up for a major run next year. Had Mathurin not been out (and of course Hali the last 2 games), who knows how this series would have played out.


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Kblaze8855
05-28-2024, 02:21 PM
cap wont go up that much



It’s going up $46 million over three years and guarantee to increase from there because they have to roll the excess into the future to satisfy the new CBA. It isnt theory. The cap is factually going to go up a lot.

warriorfan
05-28-2024, 02:36 PM
cap wont go up that much. Guys who make that right now are ad, luka, trae, lavine, fvv, edwards, haliburton, sabonis. Little more than ben simmons and kyrie, some guys are underpaid on the 30% max because it's their first contract like ad and luka but some are definitely overpaid like lavine fvv, Siakam is better than the last 2 but he's closer to 2nd group than 1st obviously

Yeah it’s rough. While it is an overpay, when looking at the other factors I would personally say it isn’t the worst.

There was some buzz over GS getting siakam a little while ago and I was a bit skeptical because they would have had to give up assets for him and then eventually pay him probably too much money. while he is a great player i’m not sure he’s a needle mover on that level. I was relieved when we didn’t pull the trigger.


That being said I think the situations are a lot different. I still think it’s not a good contract by any means but it’s not the worst


I would like to hear some Pacer’s fans take on it and see how they feel about the signing.

NBAGOAT
05-28-2024, 02:53 PM
It’s going up $46 million over three years and guarantee to increase from there because they have to roll the excess into the future to satisfy the new CBA. It isnt theory. The cap is factually going to go up a lot.

i just mean it wont go up that much more than the 8% increases in siakam's contracts every year. It's going be like a 28% cap hit even in year 5 compared to 30% the 1st yr. like you said they'll roll excess into the future. There will be no cap spike like there was in 2016.

Wally450
05-28-2024, 03:08 PM
Indiana can be scary in the coming years. Nembhart is going to be a stud.

FultzNationRISE
05-28-2024, 04:31 PM
The report is that he's accepted it, or just that they intend to make the offer?

Because the Lakers can clear some cap space too this summer. Let's not get the **** ahead of ourselves.

Siakam would be a fool to pass up the opportunity to play with King Hung LePerfect the next two years.

gengiskhan
05-28-2024, 04:37 PM
Indiana can be scary in the coming years. Nembhart is going to be a stud.

thats what they said 10 years ago too. when hibbert, george hill and Paul George were discovered!

we all know the result 2 years later.

same will happen here. Siakem will take that $245 million bag and chill for next 5 years.

They all get the max bag these days and regress just like Westbrook, Paul George.

Pacers is a cursed franchise. If they could'nt get it done in Miller years in 1998 and 2000. they will never win one.

Reggie43
05-28-2024, 10:04 PM
Love the way he plays and the leadership that he brings. It would be a waste not to resign him and see what they can do with a healthier squad.

Real Men Wear Green
05-28-2024, 10:19 PM
thats what they said 10 years ago too. when hibbert, george hill and Paul George were discovered!

we all know the result 2 years later.

same will happen here. Siakem will take that $245 million bag and chill for next 5 years.

They all get the max bag these days and regress just like Westbrook, Paul George.

Pacers is a cursed franchise. If they could'nt get it done in Miller years in 1998 and 2000. they will never win one.
That has partially to do with Indy not making a big trade or signing to team a superstar with George. If they had gotten him a great costar...he'd have done his choking with the Pacers and the Clippers with SGA might have challenged for a championship...nevermind.