Celtics in 5

[3ba11]

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[nayte]

I don't get it.shouldnt you want the Mavs to win?

[ImKobe]

I don't get it.shouldnt you want the Mavs to win?

He thinks Tatum is an elite jump shooter. He's lost his damn mind.

[nayte]

He thinks Tatum is an elite jump shooter. He's lost his damn mind.

Ahh right .I can't keep up with him it seems.
He made a thread about needed Kyrie to win ?

[3ba11]

He thinks Tatum is an elite jump shooter. He's lost his damn mind.


Luka cannot live off double-pin downs (off-ball), while Tatum can - this superior jumpshot diversity makes Tatum an "expert jumpshooter" that yields better ball movement and team assists, which in turn yields better chemistry for a better-performing cast, aka better team

carry on

[nayte]

So why did you make a thread saying you need Kyrie to win then?

[Axe]

So why did you make a thread saying you need Kyrie to win then?
:lol

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[3ba11]

So why did you make a thread saying you need Kyrie to win then?


That thread said I needed Kyrie to make the Finals

So then I can say that for Lebron to win as 1st option, he needed a sidekick that could make the Finals without him

and this sidekick actually had to be a franchise player from an in-conference opponent, aka diluting the conference.

[nayte]

Right. So making the finals is more important then winning is what your saying?

[3ba11]

Right. So making the finals is more important then winning is what your saying?


no, but making the Finals it's better than pippen did without jordan

Accordingly, for Lebron to win as 1st option, he needed a sidekick that could make the Finals without him

and this sidekick actually had to be a franchise player from an in-conference opponent, aka diluting the conference.

[nayte]

But you always say winning the ring is most important.you can't just backtrack now ?

[3ba11]

But you always say winning the ring is most important.you can't just backtrack now ?


I just need Lebron's sidekicks to do better than Pippen, which means making the Finals... Anything better than making the Finals such as Wade winning FMVP is bonus... So if Kyrie won FMVP, that would mean that Lebron needs FMVP sidekicks to win.. yikes.. you better hope kyrie doesn't win FMVP like Wade did.. you're already lucky that they didn't give out WCF MVP in 2020 when AD dominated Jokic

[nayte]

Is that the way you really look at basketball?
How do you get enjoyment from that?

[Phoenix]

So why did you make a thread saying you need Kyrie to win then?

He's stuck. He's branded Tatum as an elite jumpshooter, so he needs Boston to win because Luka is the Lebron stand-in and he can then say 'elite jumpshooters beat ball dominators'. But if Dallas wins, it will be because Kyrie is so good that he was able to overcome 'Lebron-Luka ball' and that for Lebron to win, he needs an elite multiple-chip 28ppg 1b level player. Kyrie is a Kobe disciple. Kobe is an MJ proxy. MJ>Lebron. 89 Pippen sucks.

Either way, he gives himself outs no matter the outcome. And we here at ISH know exactly what he's doing yet still give him serious replies. I'm beginning to think 3ball is the sane one here.

[Overdrive]

Luka cannot live off double-pin downs (off-ball), while Tatum can - this superior jumpshot diversity makes Tatum an "expert jumpshooter" that yields better ball movement and team assists, which in turn yields better chemistry for a better-performing cast, aka better team

carry on

What you're saying is that no matter who as long as there's some jump shooting diversity people will win. That actually means that Jordan isn't unique. Luka coming up short on the other hand with the same teammate Lebron had means Lebron is unique.

You actually set up two things here:

If Tatum wins this would boost Lebron. Not Jordan. It would mean Lebron's unique ability sets him apart from and equally as productive clone, while Jordan's brand of winning can be done by Jayson Tatum.

If the Mavs win it would prove that ball dominance isn't a losing brand of ball. Either way you lose. Your set up actually backfires. At the end of the finals you will have to admit either truth. Good job. You lost. You lost a case that didn't even have to be made in the first place but your truthbending backfired at you and it's apperent the last few days.

[ImKobe]

Luka cannot live off double-pin downs (off-ball), while Tatum can - this superior jumpshot diversity makes Tatum an "expert jumpshooter" that yields better ball movement and team assists, which in turn yields better chemistry for a better-performing cast, aka better team

carry on


Catch & shoot 3s this year

RS: Doncic 1.9 3PA 37.8%3PT
Tatum 2.2 3PA 43.0%3PT
PO: Doncic 1.9 3PA 33.3%3PT
Tatum 2.1 3PA 27.6%3PT

Mavs just have better options where Luka is the one setting up guys for 3s. Kyrie shot 42% on 3.2 3PA on catch & shoot 3s in the RS and is shooting 43.9% on 2.4 attempts in the POs. Luka started taking twice as many of those shots since the Kyrie trade. Tatum has struggled to make catch & shoot 3s in 5 of his 7 Playoff appearances (30% or worse).

Celtics have more playmakers than the Mavs so yeah Tatum can play off the ball more. It's not really an option for Luka in Dallas.

[Phoenix]

What you're saying is that no matter who as long as there's some jump shooting diversity people will win. That actually means that Jordan isn't unique. Luka coming up short on the other hand with the same teammate Lebron had means Lebron is unique.

You actually set up two things here:

If Tatum wins this would boost Lebron. Not Jordan. It would mean Lebron's unique ability sets him apart from and equally as productive clone, while Jordan's brand of winning can be done by Jayson Tatum.

If the Mavs win it would prove that ball dominance isn't a losing brand of ball. Either way you lose. Your set up actually backfires. At the end of the finals you will have to admit either truth. Good job. You lost. You lost a case that didn't even have to be made in the first place but your truthbending backfired at you and it's apperent the last few days.

Lol you know better than that. He will claim victory no matter the outcome. Whatever he says is a very transparent effort to keep you engaged. Anyone that dedicated to keeping this site active has a stake in it.

Think about all the about-faces he's done. Remember when Steph Curry was the most overrated player ever in June 2021, then the new season starts Oct 2021 and he's top 10 all of a sudden? Then the Warriors win and he uses that to take a victory lap that he was 'right all along' and we're supposed to pretend like the original overrated claim wasn’t one of the dumbest things ever said on this site? Meanwhile he also says this era is a beginner format brand of baskerball, so logically anyone great in this era would be worse than greats of eras he props up( MJs era in particular).

Need more?

Remember when Giannis was a Pippen level bum until he won and then he wasn't? Remember the 'downhill' skillset he's bashed Ant for the last 3 weeks? Doesn't Giannis have the same downhill skilset on top of being the literal opposite of an 'expert jumpshooter' yet overcame not one, but TWO 'expert jumpshooters' in CP3 and Booker to win? Every single point he makes is contradiction to something else and it's hilarious to see unfold..

[NBAGOAT]

What you're saying is that no matter who as long as there's some jump shooting diversity people will win. That actually means that Jordan isn't unique. Luka coming up short on the other hand with the same teammate Lebron had means Lebron is unique.

You actually set up two things here:

If Tatum wins this would boost Lebron. Not Jordan. It would mean Lebron's unique ability sets him apart from and equally as productive clone, while Jordan's brand of winning can be done by Jayson Tatum.

If the Mavs win it would prove that ball dominance isn't a losing brand of ball. Either way you lose. Your set up actually backfires. At the end of the finals you will have to admit either truth. Good job. You lost. You lost a case that didn't even have to be made in the first place but your truthbending backfired at you and it's apperent the last few days.

Oh no 3balls gotta go look up jaylen browns stats now

[PeroAntic]

Why do people even respond to this idiot with his meaningless convoluted crap

[StrongLurk]

OP plays both sides of the fence all the time, which means his arguments lose by default.

[tpols]

IF the Celtics win it won't because of Tatum vs Luka matchup lmao. Only way they win is if they get super hot from 3 basically.

But of course when Dallas wins you're gonna flip this into being about Kyrie >>> Pippen and Lebron.

[3ba11]

But of course when Dallas wins you're gonna flip this into being about Kyrie >>> Pippen and Lebron.


I'm already doing that just by Kyrie making the Finals, since it means that for Lebron to win as 1st option, he needed sidekicks that made the Finals without him, which is objectively better than Pippen without Jordan.

And sure, god forbid Kyrie wins FMVP, which would mean that Lebron needed FMVP's at sidekick.. that would be extra fudge on the sundae but the sundae is already pretty good and sufficient.. I'm freerolling

[StrongLurk]

OP is losing it, literally none of his threads recently make any sense. Dude is playing both sides to every argument he makes and then pats himself on the back like "iM sO sMaRt".

Isn't OP like 45 years old? No shame.

[3ba11]

OP is losing it, literally none of his threads recently make any sense. Dude is playing both sides to every argument he makes and then pats himself on the back like "iM sO sMaRt".

Isn't OP like 45 years old? No shame.


All my narratives have been confirmed now that Kyrie and Wade have made the Finals without Lebron - this is objectively better than Pippen without Jordan.. Accordingly, we know that for Lebron to win as 1st option, he needed sidekicks that were better than Pippen (made the Finals on their own).

But of course when Boston beats Luka, this will also confirm that expert jumpshooters > ball-dominators..

So again, all my narratives are working out - Lebron had better sidekicks that could make the Finals and expert jumpshooting > ball-domination... of course if Dallas somehow wins to spoil the "expert jumpshooter" narrative, then that will merely show that Kyrie is a top 20 all-time player by virtue of being the key that unlocks winning for the otherwise losing ball-domination (lebron, luka).

carry on

[1987_Lakers]

LeBron made the Finals without Wade, Kyrie, & AD.

MJ went 1-9

[SouBeachTalents]

LeBron made the Finals without Wade, Kyrie, & AD.

MJ went 1-9
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[3ba11]

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That's fine and dandy but history shows that Lebron objectively needed more help to win as 1st option, since he needed sidekicks that made the Finals without him, which is objectively superior to Pippen without Jordan.

Now imagine if Kyrie wins FMVP (lebron needing FMVP's) - that will be extra icing on a cake that's already pretty damn good.. All my narratives are proving correct with Kyrie making the Finals... Kyrie the DIFFERENCE-MAKER.. how you like them apples

[StrongLurk]

All my narratives have been confirmed now that Kyrie and Wade have made the Finals without Lebron - this is objectively better than Pippen without Jordan.. Accordingly, we know that for Lebron to win as 1st option, he needed sidekicks that were better than Pippen (made the Finals on their own).

But of course when Boston beats Luka, this will also confirm that expert jumpshooters > ball-dominators..

So again, all my narratives are working out - Lebron had better sidekicks that could make the Finals and expert jumpshooting > ball-domination... of course if Dallas somehow wins to spoil the "expert jumpshooter" narrative, then that will merely show that Kyrie is a top 20 all-time player by virtue of being the key that unlocks winning for the otherwise losing ball-domination (lebron, luka).

carry on

This entire post is nonsense and you are just proving my post. Literally no one agrees with you.

You keep spamming the same nonsense and playing both sides of the fence for every argument, and then saying to yourself "i Am So SmArT".

Again it's embarrassing and you have zero shame. It's odd to have to tell a 45 year old to "grow up". People prove you wrong all the time and you just ignore it. Definitely the biggest problem with the internet is there is no "punishment" for constantly posting wrong information.

[Phoenix]

OP is losing it, literally none of his threads recently make any sense. Dude is playing both sides to every argument he makes and then pats himself on the back like "iM sO sMaRt".

Isn't OP like 45 years old? No shame.

'Recently'? They never have. I'll repeat, everything this poster says is intentional to keep you hooked into replying over 10 pages. He's a mod, and people seem unable to ignore him yet we all know what he's doing. Then he's probably 'banning' himself to make it look like some weak ass attempt at moderation.

[3ba11]

'Recently'? They never have. I'll repeat, everything this poster says is intentional to keep you hooked into replying over 10 pages. He's a mod, and people seem unable to ignore him yet we all know what he's doing. Then he's probably 'banning' himself to make it look like some weak ass attempt at moderation.


Wow I made you guys lose your minds.

Here's the ultimate truth - ball-dominators are 10-15 in the Finals collectively (Lebron, Magic, Oscar, Westbrook, Harden, Luka), while expert jumpshooters are 21-7 (MJ, Kobe, Curry, Bird, Tatum, Dirk, Kawhi)

See the difference?... One brand of ball and skillset is superior by winning more often... One brand allows the ball to move and therefore develops great chemistry over time as required for a great-performing cast, aka great team

[SouBeachTalents]

If you remove Jordan, it's 14-8 (not surprised you fudged the numbers), and of those 14 wins, only 7 of them were those guys their teams leading scorer in the Finals.

Kawhi had a Finals averaging 18 ppg

Bird was outscored in 2 of them and had a Finals averaging 15 ppg on shit efficiency

Curry was outscored in 2 of them, including one by a 35-27 margin

Kobe was outscored in 3 of them, by margins of 36-27, 33-25, and a historic 38-16

So it looks like they needed a teammate to carry the scoring burden in a lot of these wins, so ironically, it's the expert jumpshooters that need the most help :lol

[3ba11]

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[And1AllDay]

LeBron made the Finals without Wade, Kyrie, & AD.

MJ went 1-9

op bodied

[3ba11]

LeBron made the Finals without Wade, Kyrie, & AD.





iverson, dwight and kidd made it without them too... even a 22 on 35% bum made it as the spurs revealed

00's East was the only conference in history that 1-star teams were routinely winning, so finals appearances are conference-dependent.. Winning the Finals is all that matters to prove you won the entire league, not just a historically-weak conference that 22 on 35% bums were winning

[3ba11]

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[BlackMamba8]

LeBron made the Finals without Wade, Kyrie, & AD.

MJ went 1-9

hey ******....imagine having 2 chips in 20 years.......keep in mind 2011-2012 was a lockout year LMAO and nobody really counts the bubble lmao....let that sink in you ****ing peasant...**** you