Pelicans pass on Lakers 1st round pick in this year's draft.

[Hey Yo]

LA will select 17th overall.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40252151/sources-pels-defer-lakers-first-round-draft-pick-ad-trade-25

[Im Still Ballin]

Puts LA in position to snag Edey.

[tontoz]

Or they could trade that pick on draft night. I would say there is a good chance of that.

Pretty sure the restrictions on trading draft picks is for future picks.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Wouldlove to see the Celtics get Edey, even if they have to do a small trade up. The main thing they don't have a huge, strong center and such a player may be valuable next season.

[Hey Yo]

Puts LA in position to snag Edey.

You think he'd still be available at 17?

Considering the down year, I see a team taking him top 12 and maybe trying to package him in a deal.

[tontoz]

You think he'd still be available at 17?

Considering the down year, I see a team taking him top 12 and maybe trying to package him in a deal.


I seriously doubt it. Teams watch film and this is not what they want to see from a center.



https://youtu.be/2eRSokXcHu8?feature=shared

[ImKobe]

Yeah thought so. Sucks because I think Lakers might have otherwise went into rebuild mode, now they're gonna draft Bronny just to keep Bron here longer.

[tontoz]

Yeah thought so. Sucks because I think Lakers might have otherwise went into rebuild mode, now they're gonna draft Bronny just to keep Bron here longer.


There is no chance they pick Bronny in the first round. They have a second rounder they can use and Rich Paul can tell everyone else not to take him, which they probably wouldn't do anyway.

[Hey Yo]

I seriously doubt it. Teams watch film and this is not what they want to see from a center.



https://youtu.be/2eRSokXcHu8?feature=shared

Up 20 with 2mins left in the game??

You expect a player to contest the shot?

[tontoz]

Up 20 with 2mins left in the game??

You expect a player to contest the shot?

Time and score don't matter to him. He is like that all the time.


https://youtu.be/6yYaJqAZzBs?feature=shared

[Im Still Ballin]

You think he'd still be available at 17?

Considering the down year, I see a team taking him top 12 and maybe trying to package him in a deal.

It's possible. There were a couple of top-ten teams with strong interest according to DraftExpress. He's killing it in many teams' statistical models they leverage to make draft picks. Edey's range is late lottery (10-14) to late first round.

[Im Still Ballin]

Up 20 with 2mins left in the game??

You expect a player to contest the shot?

I wouldn't waste time discussing anything Edey related with tontoz. At this point it's clear he has a personal issue with him as a player.

[tontoz]

It's possible. There were a couple of top-ten teams with strong interest according to DraftExpress. He's killing it in many teams' statistical models they leverage to make draft picks. Edey's range is late lottery (10-14) to late first round.



What mock draft has him in the lottery? Tankathon and CBS have him 22-23.

[tontoz]

I wouldn't waste time discussing anything Edey related with tontoz. At this point it's clear he has a personal issue with him as a player.


Correct. My issue is that he is so lazy protecting the rim. It's embarrassing.

[ImKobe]

There is no chance they pick Bronny in the first round. They have a second rounder they can use and Rich Paul can tell everyone else not to take him, which they probably wouldn't do anyway.

What if Bron tells them to do it or he leaves? You think he cares about some young draft prospect at this stage in his career?

[Hey Yo]

Time and score don't matter to him. He is like that all the time.


https://youtu.be/6yYaJqAZzBs?feature=shared
That's 7 minutes into a game against uConn. Would that have been a possible 2nd foul in he contested? We don't know if he already had 1.

[Hey Yo]

I wouldn't waste time discussing anything Edey related with tontoz. At this point it's clear he has a personal issue with him as a player.

Clearly noticeable in the first 10mins since Edey's name was mentioned

[Im Still Ballin]

Correct. My issue is that he is so lazy protecting the rim. It's embarrassing.

And of course Edey's activity on defense has absolutely nothing to do with his gargantuan offensive burden, right? He couldn't possibly be conserving energy and avoiding foul trouble, right? It's not like his block rate and personal foul rate goes up when he has a lesser role or anything. Definitely not. Didn't happen in his freshman year or at the FIBA u21 World Cup where he blocked like 3.5 blocks per 36.

Your cherry-picking of clips means no more than me posting this three-minute highlight reel of great defense from Zach:

https://x.com/CoreyTulaba/status/1776285331077124682

[tontoz]

That's 7 minutes into a game against uConn. Would that have been a possible 2nd foul in he contested? We don't know if he already had 1.

He didn't pick up his first foul until the second half.:lol

Like I said time and score don't matter. He plays like that all the time.

He certainly isn't worried about fouling when he drills his shoulder into a player on the other end. He is just horribly lazy on D.

[Real Men Wear Green]

There is no chance they pick Bronny in the first round. They have a second rounder they can use and Rich Paul can tell everyone else not to take him, which they probably wouldn't do anyway.I am only guessing what they are thinking and yes I heard James say he wanted to play with his son. But he said that before Bronny had this rough season that has tanked his draft value. I joke about the Lakers drafting him but don't think James wants the negative attention for nepotism hovering over a Laker season that is already going to be an overhyped disappointment. So if no one else wants him, sure, use his influence on the Lakers but if some other team really has interest give him a chance to have a legit career instead of being drafted for such an undeserving reason.

[tontoz]

This is routine from him. It is the national championship game ffs. Don't just let guys have layups.

This clips are just from the first half when he had zero fouls.

What the F is this?


https://youtu.be/T3lehKVpL3k?feature=shared



https://youtu.be/PQ_6IsvkGw0?feature=shared


https://youtu.be/zkYoOzHKwaw?feature=shared

[Im Still Ballin]

The crazy thing is Purdue had a great defense built around Edey this year. 12th best adjD out of 362 D1 teams. 94.6 adjD. UCONN was 4th with a 91.1 adjD. Not to mention Edey was Big Ten All-D twice ('23, '24). Yet you're going on like he was unplayable.

[tontoz]

The crazy thing is Purdue had a great defense built around Edey this year. 12th best adjD out of 362 D1 teams. 94.6 adjD. UCONN was 4th with a 91.1 adjD. Not to mention Edey was Big Ten All-D twice ('23, '24). Yet you're going on like he was unplayable.


I don't care what their team defense is. I am looking at him as a NBA prospect.

Someone on a wizards board was pushing him mid season. I liked his numbers and highlights so I checked him out.

As soon as I watched him in a game I was appalled at laziness to even offer a token contest at the rim. And of course he isn't contesting jumpers but I don't even bother to record those.

Teams notice that even if you don't.

[bladefd]

Or they could trade that pick on draft night. I would say there is a good chance of that.

Pretty sure the restrictions on trading draft picks is for future picks.

Yup. It's a tradable pick now to package in a trade. Lakers now have 3 tradable FRPs. 2024, 2027, and 2029, I believe.

[Im Still Ballin]

I don't care what their team defense is. I am looking at him as a NBA prospect.

Someone on a wizards board was pushing him mid season. I liked his numbers and highlights so I checked him out.

As soon as I watched him in a game I was appalled at laziness to even offer a token contest at the rim. And of course he isn't contesting jumpers but I don't even bother to record those.

Teams notice that even if you don't.

I think you're looking for reasons to validate your confirmation bias instead of contextualizing the play. And at this point I understand it's a personal issue for you because I've never seen you go this hard against a player that isn't even ranked that highly.

[tontoz]

I think you're looking for reasons to validate your confirmation bias instead of contextualizing the play. And at this point I understand it's a personal issue for you because I've never seen you go this hard against a player that isn't even ranked that highly.


Context? It was the first half of the national championship game. He had no fouls. It doesn't take much effort to put a hand up and jump.

It is unbelievable to me that a guy with his size and athleticism can't be bothered to contest layups playing for a national title.

[tontoz]

Yup. It's a tradable pick now to package in a trade. Lakers now have 3 tradable FRPs. 2024, 2027, and 2029, I believe.

When Kuzma turned down the Dallas trade I speculated that there might be another team he wants to get traded to but they weren't able to do the deal yet. The Lakers are a possibility.

[Im Still Ballin]

I try to base my analysis on more than a handful of possessions from a single game. I suggest you do the same. But seeing as how you previously admitted to having only watched one Purdue game I don't trust you on the matter.

We'll have to leave this here. You're just going to post the same cherrypicked clips and we'll go around in circles again and again.

[tontoz]

I try to base my analysis on more than a handful of possessions from a single game. I suggest you do the same. But seeing as how you previously admitted to having only watched one Purdue game I don't trust you on the matter.

We'll have to leave this here. You're just going to post the same cherrypicked clips and we'll go around in circles again and again.


I said I watched one game mid season and got turned off. The clips I posted were from two tournament games, both of which I watched in full. And of course I saw the exact same thing from Edey.

I see no reason why 3 games isn't enough when I see the exact same thing over and over.

[bladefd]

When Kuzma turned down the Dallas trade I speculated that there might be another team he wants to get traded to but they weren't able to do the deal yet. The Lakers are a possibility.

No, I don't want Kuzma back. Above average player, terrible fit. Hard pass.

I would rather go after Dejounte Murray or Lavine/Caruso duo or some other star-level player if they become available.

[tontoz]

No, I don't want Kuzma back. Above average player, terrible fit. Hard pass.

I would rather go after Dejounte Murray or Lavine/Caruso duo or some other star-level player if they become available.

That was the same reasoning that preceded the Westbrook trade which put them in this mess in the first place.

[bladefd]

That was the same reasoning that preceded the Westbrook trade which put them in this mess in the first place.

That's why I have no issue with Murray. I want nothing to do with Kuz. I would rather go after Caruso alone than Kuzma even.

[tontoz]

That's why I have no issue with Murray. I want nothing to do with Kuz. I would rather go after Caruso alone than Kuzma even.

From what I have heard Chicago has been reluctant to trade Caruso.

I saw something the other day indicating the Lakers are looking to trade Rui

[coin24]

Why would they trade for kuzma back?
The lakers core is cooked it’s time to trade and load up on picks and young talent.

For fu*ks sake let letiny walk to cavs with bronnie or wherever and then trade Davis for some assets