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gengiskhan
06-03-2024, 07:00 PM
NAME SEASON GP MPG PPG RPG APG SPG BPG TPG FGM FGA FG% 3PM 3PA 3P% FTM FTA FT% MIN PTS REB AST STL BLK TOV PF +/-

Carmelo Anthony 2003-04
DENDEN
82 36.5 21.0 6.1 2.8 1.2 0.5 3.0 7.6 17.9 42.6 0.8 2.6 32.2 5.0 6.4 77.7 2,995 1,725 498 227 97 41 247 225 +65

LeBron James 2003-04
CLECLE
79 39.5 20.9 5.5 5.9 1.6 0.7 3.5 7.9 18.9 41.7 0.8 2.7 29.0 4.4 5.8 75.4 3,122 1,654 432 465 130 58 273 149 -144

Melo played all 82 games unlike LBJ

Denver made it to Playoffs 8th spot (tougher Western Conf) unlike Cavs (missed playoffs in weaker conference)

Melo shot better too marginally. Won more games in tougher conf. Melo's 43 games to LBJ's 35 games.

Nuggets did not get swept either. went down 1-4.

Was Rookie Melo done dirty at age 19?

Rookie Melo was marginally better than Rookie LBJ.

Was NBA favoring LBJ and made sure he dont miss out on ROTY honors when Melo was more deserving clearly? stats wise and team performance wise

ShawkFactory
06-03-2024, 07:06 PM
The team performance doesn’t really matter. Denver added Andre Miller and got Camby back from the year before so obviously that looks better.

Could you make a decent argument for Melo? Sure. But it was pretty much a toss up and Lebron was probably the better player. In that case of course it’s going to go to him.

Melo wasn’t done dirty.

Real Men Wear Green
06-03-2024, 07:09 PM
Melo had an argument for deserving it but it was obvious to everyone that James was going to be the better player and the perception of his talent won it.

RachlNicholsazz
06-03-2024, 07:15 PM
Melo had an argument for deserving it but it was obvious to everyone that James was going to be the better player and the perception of his talent won it.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?350974-Carmelo-got-robbed-of-ROY-2003&p=13779781&viewfull=1

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?344116-Why-in-the-world-did-Bron-win-the-ROY-award-over-Melo

Slightly better stats. Better record. Better record turnaround. Much tougher conference. LeBron had no argument for ROY of the year over Melo. It was quite controversial at the time.

SouBeachTalents
06-03-2024, 07:22 PM
Seriously, who gives a FVCK about rookie of the year :lol While not surprising, I find it funny how this is literally the only rookie of the year selection that EVER gets brought up.

RachlNicholsazz
06-03-2024, 07:24 PM
Seriously, who gives a FVCK about rookie of the year :lol While not surprising, I find it funny how this is literally the only rookie of the year selection that EVER gets brought up.

Because it was probably the most undeserved ROY the award of our lifetimes.

highwhey
06-03-2024, 07:30 PM
Seriously, who gives a FVCK about rookie of the year :lol While not surprising, I find it funny how this is literally the only rookie of the year selection that EVER gets brought up.

grasping at straws...the modus operandi for LBJ haterz. as if it's not weird enough they all have multiple alternate accounts on an antiquated forum with a total net user base of 10 people.

Xiao Yao You
06-03-2024, 07:48 PM
Lebron was better despite carmelo thinking otherwise

StrongLurk
06-03-2024, 07:51 PM
Rookie of the year award is meaningless, can't stand when people include that award alongside shit like All-NBA teams when comparing players.

gengiskhan
06-03-2024, 08:09 PM
Seriously, who gives a FVCK about rookie of the year :lol While not surprising, I find it funny how this is literally the only rookie of the year selection that EVER gets brought up.

You sir are a certifiable fool in all honesty.

ROTY is the most important awards amongst the GOAT ladder.

Do you know one of the reasons why Hakeem cannot be over MJ in GOAT ladder? Because he lost ROTY honors to MJ. In head-2-head match up. after being drafted over MJ.

Reason Hakeem cannot be in Top 5 GOATs either despite being the 3rd best Center ever behind Kareem and Wilt.

ROTY solidifies drafted rookie as team anchor and drafting team did not mess up the pick.

I'm not talking about making it to an All-Star Starter or reserve in your rookie year. Just out competing all other rookies and winning the honors. This is very important.

gengiskhan
06-03-2024, 08:12 PM
grasping at straws...the modus operandi for LBJ haterz. as if it's not weird enough they all have multiple alternate accounts on an antiquated forum with a total net user base of 10 people.

The reason why I bought it up.

LBJ talking about missing out on DPOY awards in podcast. How he deserved it over non-all Defensive winner that year.

Can LBJ talk about how he won ROTY over Melo despite latter made it to playoffs and played all 82 games unlike rookie LBJ.

If he is going to complain about awards he lost. fans are going to complain the awards he should not have won. plain and simple.

He is bringing this upon himself.

Neal Romer
06-03-2024, 08:22 PM
The reason why I bought it up.

LBJ talking about missing out on DPOY awards in podcast. How he deserved it over non-all Defensive winner that year.

Can LBJ talk about how he won ROTY over Melo despite latter made it to playoffs and played all 82 games unlike rookie LBJ.

If he is going to complain about awards he lost. fans are going to complain the awards he should not have won. plain and simple.

He is bringing this upon himself.

He dont care about the rookie of the year award.

He wants his damn respect for the defensive player he was in his prime, AND HE DESERVES IT!

gengiskhan
06-03-2024, 08:27 PM
He dont care about the rookie of the year award.

He wants his damn respect for the defensive player he was in his prime, AND HE DESERVES IT!

lol. no wonder he did not win a single major award in past 10 years.

DPOY is not just handed out when there are other better defenders are their on your team.

reason Pippen never won DPOY despite deserving of one because there was a better perimeter defender than him on Bulls.

LBJ wanted DPOY so bad. Should've been on Cavs and never colluded. he would've won DPOY by now.

RRR3
06-03-2024, 09:05 PM
"Troll who tries to provoke you"

SATAN
06-03-2024, 09:41 PM
"Troll who tries to provoke you"

Just added him to my ignore list...

iamgine
06-03-2024, 10:38 PM
Melo played all 82 games unlike LBJ

Denver made it to Playoffs 8th spot (tougher Western Conf) unlike Cavs (missed playoffs in weaker conference)

Melo shot better too marginally. Won more games in tougher conf. Melo's 43 games to LBJ's 35 games.

Nuggets did not get swept either. went down 1-4.

Was Rookie Melo done dirty at age 19?

Rookie Melo was marginally better than Rookie LBJ.

Was NBA favoring LBJ and made sure he dont miss out on ROTY honors when Melo was more deserving clearly? stats wise and team performance wise

Nah, as bad as Lebron was as a rookie, and he was pretty bad, Melo did not perform better. Not even close.