Which duo are you taking: Tatum/KG or Luka/Dirk?

[iamgine]

In their primes.

[j3lademaster]

Luka and Dirk. So much spacing and tough shotmaking there.

[ArbitraryWater]

Tatum is the weak link here so you have to go luka/Dirk.

I mean hell both luka and Dirk are the 2 best players here so this is easy.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Who is more likely to get a stop? Doncic/Nowitzki are better offensively but Tatum and Garnett are still great scorers that can pass. On the other end Garnett and Tatum are two of the most versatile defenders the game had ever seen while Nowitzki and Doncic are guys you have to hide.

[bison]

I'm taking LeLuka Magic and Dirk Diggler fah sho.

[Akeem34TheDream]

Dirk/Luka for aesthetic reasons

[Im Still Ballin]

That's a tough one! What era? I'd like to play Dirk alongside a center like KAT today. What do you guys think? Can prime Dirk play PF today? I think so. Being able to mitigate his defensive deficiencies by playing him with a defensive anchor is what swings this for me. And the cramped space doesn't really affect Dirk all that much due his all-time tough shot-making ability.

It's Dirk and Luka for me.

[Wally450]

I'll take the better defenders. With complimentary pieces, that's a tough team to stop.

[RachlNicholsazz]

Definitely Luka/Dirk. KG was never known as clutch and Tatum is a borderline choker. Their defensive advantage isn't enough to override the fact that both players need a true alpha alongside them to win. I wouldn't be surprised one bit if JB gets the fmvp if the Celtics manage to topple the Mavs

[tpols]

Who is more likely to get a stop? Doncic/Nowitzki are better offensively but Tatum and Garnett are still great scorers that can pass. On the other end Garnett and Tatum are two of the most versatile defenders the game had ever seen while Nowitzki and Doncic are guys you have to hide.

Easier to find defensive role players for cheap than offensive superstars. Guys like Dray and Rodman and Ben Wallace and Bowen and whoever else were 2nd round picks.

[ShawkFactory]

Easier to find defensive role players for cheap than offensive superstars. Guys like Dray and Rodman and Ben Wallace and Bowen and whoever else were 2nd round picks.

A Tatum/KG duo wouldn’t need an offensive superstar. Get them and big man, one really good shooter of a 3rd option, and some solid role guys and they’d be very very tough.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Easier to find defensive role players for cheap than offensive superstars. Guys like Dray and Rodman and Ben Wallace and Bowen and whoever else were 2nd round picks.
So were Gilbert Arenas and Nikola Jokic. Who cares? Aside from your dumb ass of course. Having defensively weak starts creates a flaw that can be exploited.

[RachlNicholsazz]

A Tatum/KG duo wouldn’t need an offensive superstar. Get them and big man, one really good shooter of a 3rd option, and some solid role guys and they’d be very very tough.

Well Tatum has one of the deepest 2 way teams in NBA history. They can win it all even if he plays mediocre. If they lose however, it's squarely on his shoulders

[3ba11]

It's a little early to ask the question because we don't know if Tatum will dominate these Finals at a high level and then win again with the great team chemistry that he's developed over many years.. If Tatum proves to have this caliber of offensive dominance as he enters his peak years, then I would take Tatum plus a very rich man's Pippen in KG.

But if Tatum is below this caliber, then it becomes a problem because we know that Dirk and Luka have achieved a goat-level of offensive dominance either statistically (luka) or domination via a game-changing, stretch-four style (dirk).

The issue is that KG isn't a "great" scorer - that's the problem.. He's better than Pippen but the point is that he has a little "pippen" in him on the offensive end where he struggles to get his own shot... KG's turnaround was elite by today's standards but not quite dominant enough at the time to carry him in those spots - nowhere near Dirk's (automatic)... and KG wasn't making up this deficit with his live-dribble game.. So if you think that you can just give him the ball and expect him to make defenses look silly the way everyone else in the thread title does, I think you're wrong.

Essentially, KG's skillset is a little redundant in the sense that his defensive prowess could be mimicked in many ways via role-playing specialists or other schemes.. I'm not saying 2-way players are bad, but from a GM's standpoint, if the option exists of having 2 players with goat offensive dominance that fit together - in this unique scenario, I don't mind surrounding the goat offensive dominance of Luka AND Dirk with a bunch of cheap defenders and specialists.. I voted Tatum/KG btw, because i do beleive it's Tatum's year.

[SouBeachTalents]

It's a little early to ask the question because we don't know if Tatum will dominate these Finals at a high level and then win again with the great team chemistry that he's developed over many years.. If Tatum proves to have this caliber of offensive dominance as he enters his peak years, then I would take Tatum plus a very rich man's Pippen in KG.

But if Tatum is below this caliber, then it becomes a problem because we know that Dirk and Luka have achieved a goat-level of offensive dominance either statistically (luka) or domination via a game-changing, stretch-four style (dirk).

The issue is that KG isn't a "great" scorer - that's the problem.. He's better than Pippen but the point is that he has a little "pippen" in him on the offensive end where he struggles to get his own shot... KG's turnaround was elite by today's standards but not quite dominant enough at the time to carry him in those spots - nowhere near Dirk's (automatic)... and KG wasn't making up this deficit with his live-dribble game.. So if you think that you can just give him the ball and expect him to make defenses look silly the way everyone else in the thread title does, I think you're wrong.

Essentially, KG's skillset is a little redundant in the sense that his defensive prowess could be mimicked in many ways via role-playing specialists or other schemes.. I'm not saying 2-way players are bad, but from a GM's standpoint, if the option exists of having 2 players with goat offensive dominance that fit together - in this unique scenario, I don't mind surrounding the goat offensive dominance of Luka AND Dirk with a bunch of cheap defenders and specialists.. I voted Tatum/KG btw, because i do beleive it's Tatum's year.
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[90sgoat]

Luka and Dirk are both so much better on offense that they'll offset particularly Tatum's defense, which isn't that great. Dirk beat KG plenty of times.

A more interesting one is Luka/KG and Tatum/Dirk, in that case, would Luka be able to co-exist with KG who liked to take his time operating in the high post, just like Porzingis.

[tpols]

It's a little early to ask the question because we don't know if Tatum will dominate these Finals at a high level and then win again with the great team chemistry that he's developed over many years.. If Tatum proves to have this caliber of offensive dominance as he enters his peak years, then I would take Tatum plus a very rich man's Pippen in KG.

But if Tatum is below this caliber, then it becomes a problem because we know that Dirk and Luka have achieved a goat-level of offensive dominance either statistically (luka) or domination via a game-changing, stretch-four style (dirk).

The issue is that KG isn't a "great" scorer - that's the problem.. He's better than Pippen but the point is that he has a little "pippen" in him on the offensive end where he struggles to get his own shot... KG's turnaround was elite by today's standards but not quite dominant enough at the time to carry him in those spots - nowhere near Dirk's (automatic)... and KG wasn't making up this deficit with his live-dribble game.. So if you think that you can just give him the ball and expect him to make defenses look silly the way everyone else in the thread title does, I think you're wrong.

Essentially, KG's skillset is a little redundant in the sense that his defensive prowess could be mimicked in many ways via role-playing specialists or other schemes.. I'm not saying 2-way players are bad, but from a GM's standpoint, if the option exists of having 2 players with goat offensive dominance that fit together - in this unique scenario, I don't mind surrounding the goat offensive dominance of Luka AND Dirk with a bunch of cheap defenders and specialists.. I voted Tatum/KG btw, because i do beleive it's Tatum's year.


People forget when Iggy came to the Warriors he was cast away player averaging like 7ppg with them. Same with Tyson Chandler, Shawn Marion, and Jason Kidd on Dallas.

PJ, DJJ, and Gafford are arguably Dallas top 3 defenders and they were relative nobodies to start this year. It's much easier to replace defense than top tier superstar offense.

[Im Still Ballin]

Imagine this team:

Conley
Luka
McDaniels
Dirk
Gobert

Bench: Slomo, Naz, NAW, etc...

Now that'd be a mint team. Top 5 in offense and defense I reckon. Potential 8-10+ SRS.

[90sgoat]

Imagine this team:

Yeah how about just swap Luka and Ant?

That team 4-peats.