espn: bran wins best chip [duh] while lil mikey is second again

[And1AllDay]

https://i.postimg.cc/4dJLxdYM/We-stay-winning.jpg

anotha one

[3ba11]

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I'm still trying to find the Finals where Lebron defeated maximum defensive attention (carried scoring load on championship level.



Finals

93' Jordan....... 41/9/6*

16' Lebron'...... 30/11/9

91' Jordan....... 31/8/11*


* So Jordan scored or assisted more, while defeating max defensive attention (carried scoring load on championship level)

[SouBeachTalents]

I'm still trying to find the Finals Jordan did this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlPvfRQaUAA5E5N.jpg:large

[ImKobe]

Lebron was mediocre/terrible for the first half of the series. Jordan was good to excellent in all 6 games in '93. 31+ points in every single game. 50+%FG in 5 out of 6 games. 4 straight games of 40+ points. Also Jordan didn't get a Kyrie performance out of Pippen (who averaged 21.2 ppg on 45.9%TS) really so that also makes Jordan's series better.

[Da_Realist]

Most of the people polled weren't even alive in 93

[sdot_thadon]

Most of the people polled weren't even alive in 93

And most of the people who will say this weren't old enough to have an opinion that matters any more than the kids too young to have seen it live. Lebron beat a higher tier opponent and had the craziest stretch we've ever seen in a finals. Gotta give it up even if you don't want to.

[ImKobe]

And most of the people who will say this weren't old enough to have an opinion that matters any more than the kids too young to have seen it live. Lebron beat a higher tier opponent and had the craziest stretch we've ever seen in a finals. Gotta give it up even if you don't want to.

How many players have averaged 40 in the Finals since MJ? lol

[Da_Realist]

How many players have averaged 40 in the Finals since MJ? lol

Nearly doubling the scoring of his best teammate and 14 points higher than the MVP of the league that year.

[Axe]

Lebron was mediocre/terrible for the first half of the series. Jordan was good to excellent in all 6 games in '93. 31+ points in every single game. 50+%FG in 5 out of 6 games. 4 straight games of 40+ points. Also Jordan didn't get a Kyrie performance out of Pippen (who averaged 21.2 ppg on 45.9%TS) really so that also makes Jordan's series better.
Umm, because kong was simply carrying a heavier load against a much more elite opponent. So wtf is your point anyway? Context matters. :confusedshrug:

[SATAN]

PPGZ!!! :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown:

:facepalm

[RRR3]

Most of the people polled weren't even alive in 93
Fuming :roll:

[gengiskhan]

Lebron was mediocre/terrible for the first half of the series. Jordan was good to excellent in all 6 games in '93. 31+ points in every single game. 50+%FG in 5 out of 6 games. 4 straight games of 40+ points. Also Jordan didn't get a Kyrie performance out of Pippen (who averaged 21.2 ppg on 45.9%TS) really so that also makes Jordan's series better.

MJs first 3 rings (1991 - 1993) were so remarkable, they are literally off the charts from SG position to team's supreme leader position.

Nobody in NBA history has come close to matching this ever....


1991 - 1993 Michael Jordan Finals Career Average:

Year Opponent G MPG FG% 3P% FT% ORB DRB RPG APG SPG BPG TO PF PPG
1990-91 Lakers 5 44.0 .558 .500 .848 1.6 5.0 6.6 11.42.8 1.40 3.6 3.6 31.2
1991-92 Trail Blazers 6 42.3 .526 .429 .891 1.0 3.8 4.8 6.51.7 0.33 2.0 3.5 35.8
1992-93 Suns 6 45.7 .508 .400 .694 2.5 6.0 8.5 6.3 1.7 0.67 2.7 3.3 41.0

Jordan's off the ball game was so brilliant, You often wondered If he was really playing a "game within a game."

These 3 finals are testament to that. He just let Pippen and Bulls run the triangle offense ball movement.

For example, 1991 - 1993 Finals, Bulls coaching team and Point F playmaker Pippen were adamant at getting Cartright and Grant, the 2 slow scorers early quick points to get them started and in offensive flow. It was so bad that Jordan wasn't involve in offensive ball movement. literally for like first 3-4 mins. But peak prime Jordan was so intelligent, he ran those angling narrow lanes. literally like slipping through defenses early on. resulting in offensive put back, a baseline dunk, a steal and lay-up defensively. by 6 mins, halfway 1st quarter mark, you always wondered how MJ is at 6-8 pts already.

Until 1993 finals 1st retirement, MJ was the master of the game imo. He literally re-invented the Bball game from the Back Court position. Looking back, Kobe, Lebron desperately needed dominant best all-star big men to win titles (Shaq, Gasol, Bynum, Bosh, Love, AD etc etc). You look at MJs titles. His weakness were their front court big men particulary the most important Center position (Purdue, Cartright, Longly, wennington). 1993 Grant was completely destroyed by 1993 Barkley in head-2-head matchup. Coming into 90s decade, if you ask anyone, they'll tell you Magic needed big men HOF'ers Kareem, Worthy and Larry needed Big Men HOF'ers McHale, Chief, Walton to win rings. Even zeke with all-star center Lambeir. Without NBA's best big men with you, you cannot win titles. Bulls broke this mold. they said, a backcourt of jordan-pippen is good enough. Let pippen run the offense. Let jordan literally take over finals at will.

[MrFonzworth]

MJs first 3 rings (1991 - 1993) were so remarkable, they are literally off the charts from SG position to team's supreme leader position.

Nobody in NBA history has come close to matching this ever....



Jordan's off the ball game was so brilliant, You often wondered If he was really playing a "game within a game."

These 3 finals are testament to that. He just let Pippen and Bulls run the triangle offense ball movement.

For example, 1991 - 1993 Finals, Bulls coaching team and Point F playmaker Pippen were adamant at getting Cartright and Grant, the 2 slow scorers early quick points to get them started and in offensive flow. It was so bad that Jordan wasn't involve in offensive ball movement. literally for like first 3-4 mins. But peak prime Jordan was so intelligent, he ran those angling narrow lanes. literally like slipping through defenses early on. resulting in offensive put back, a baseline dunk, a steal and lay-up defensively. by 6 mins, halfway 1st quarter mark, you always wondered how MJ is at 6-8 pts already.

Until 1993 finals 1st retirement, MJ was the master of the game imo. He literally re-invented the Bball game from the Back Court position. Looking back, Kobe, Lebron desperately needed dominant best all-star big men to win titles (Shaq, Gasol, Bynum, Bosh, Love, AD etc etc). You look at MJs titles. His weakness were their front court big men particulary the most important Center position (Purdue, Cartright, Longly, wennington). 1993 Grant was completely destroyed by 1993 Barkley in head-2-head matchup. Coming into 90s decade, if you ask anyone, they'll tell you Magic needed big men HOF'ers Kareem, Worthy and Larry needed Big Men HOF'ers McHale, Chief, Walton to win rings. Even zeke with all-star center Lambeir. Without NBA's best big men with you, you cannot win titles. Bulls broke this mold. they said, a backcourt of jordan-pippen is good enough. Let pippen run the offense. Let jordan literally take over finals at will.

Tl;Dr 1-9

[sdot_thadon]

How many players have averaged 40 in the Finals since MJ? lol

It's not everyday players get to put up 33 shots a game against Dan Majerle lol.

[sdot_thadon]

Nearly doubling the scoring of his best teammate and 14 points higher than the MVP of the league that year.

Versus leading an entire finals series in all those categories that had never been done before. An entire basketball masterclass, not just a scoring one.

[Da_Realist]

Versus leading an entire finals series in all those categories that had never been done before. An entire basketball masterclass, not just a scoring one.

Alongside a player that scored just as much as he did and actually hit the biggest shot of the whole series while LeBron was in the corner blowing on his hands. Which many of you pretend didn't happen. Your stats miss a lot of important context. That's why you like them so much.

[SouBeachTalents]

Alongside a player that scored just as much as he did and actually hit the biggest shot of the whole series while LeBron was in the corner blowing on his hands. Which many of you pretend didn't happen. Your stats miss a lot of important context. That's why you like them so much.
Paxson hit the biggest shot of the whole series after Jordan gave the ball up 50 feet from the basket.

[SATAN]

Alongside a player that scored just as much as he did and actually hit the biggest shot of the whole series while LeBron was in the corner blowing on his hands. Which many of you pretend didn't happen. Your stats miss a lot of important context. That's why you like them so much.

It's unbelievable how salty you get about LeBron or basketball post 1999 in general. I can practically feel the disdain radiating from your posts. :oldlol:

[RRR3]

Paxson hit the biggest shot of the whole series after Jordan gave the ball up 50 feet from the basket.
Bodybagged that troll :oldlol:

[1987_Lakers]

I'd say what LeBron did in 2016 will be remembered more, even though MJ was more consistent throughout the series.

LeBron came back from a 3-1 deficit against a 73 win team and went GOD mode to close out the series, led all players in every statistical category.

That's some Hollywood type shit.

[sdot_thadon]

Alongside a player that scored just as much as he did and actually hit the biggest shot of the whole series while LeBron was in the corner blowing on his hands. Which many of you pretend didn't happen. Your stats miss a lot of important context. That's why you like them so much.
Right? Those pesky stats miss all kinds of context, like shooting 33 times a game so no one else even has the opportunity to score in support right? Basketball is more than just scoring. Lebron also had other worldly defensive stats that kept getting greater and greater as the series went on. He literally led both teams in every category while also being the defactor defensive anchor. Others already iced your biggest shot in the whole series with Mj giving the ball up even further from the play, and Mj stans have said for years "Mj passed it to Paxson" he did no such thing. You can't hate on an achievement like 2016 without exposing yourself.

[gengiskhan]

Bodybagged that troll :oldlol:

keep opening your mouth like this....

I'll teabag your mouth you fool...

know the history b4 jizzing everywhere...

1993 Game 6, 4th Quarter....

Go watch entire 4th quarter!.........Entire Bulls team cannot score a point (MJ on bench).....yes, not even 1 pt.
Suns defense really clamped down, suffocated Bulls.....Pippen choke job started 8th min 4th quarter.....TO after TO....shot clock violations....Pippen even scared to attempt a shot.....no offensive flow.....Bulls blew the whole lead and now down 4 pts.......Barkley and Thunder Dan killing bulls offensively......Bulls time out......Jordan cussing out pippen.....yelling at Pippen to stop panicking.....I've never seen Pippen so scared on court....also entire bulls team gassed offensively.

This is why MJ's brilliance in forever unmatched. ON THE ROAD, he literally and figuratively takes over the rest of the entire 4th Quarter for Bulls......steller turnaround fadeaways over KJ......Hard dribble pull ups over thunder Dan.....rebounds drives an entire length lay up over half of the suns team.....MJ scores all points of Bulls lowest scoring quarter ever in NBA finals history (all 9 clutch pts by MJ).



..14 sec left.....Migraining, choking Pippen in mind......in time out, MJ himself desides to inbound, and MJ decides to get ball back in back court.......play was designed for horace or jordan for layup tie game into OT......Paxon 3 was never planned.....phil and pax both talk about this in documentary.......Suns were literally consumed on MJ beating them.....decides to focus on MJ mid court.....choking Pip gets ball up court....has no confidence....choking Horace has literally a lay up towards basket.....but Paxon finds himself wide open..... Phils rule was simple for 3 pointer shooting BJ and Pax......If they find themselves open, just pull the trigger....Wide open Paxon nails it....3.8 secs still left.

1993 Bulls had no business winning game 6. They deserve to lose and better team Suns deserved to win Game 6 and Game 7. Had MJ did not inbound the ball and ran into front court, or after inbounding the ball,....just ran up the court..... paxon had ZERO chance of being wide open for 3. ZERO!.....MJ being the last man up the back court and Suns extreme focus on making sure MJ dont beat them......why Bulls escaped with a 3peat!.

[gengiskhan]

Paxson hit the biggest shot of the whole series after Jordan gave the ball up 50 feet from the basket.

1993 Game 6, 4th Quarter....

Go watch entire 4th quarter!.........Entire Bulls team cannot score a point (MJ on bench).....yes, not even 1 pt.
Suns defense really clamped down, suffocated Bulls.....Pippen choke job started 8th min 4th quarter.....TO after TO....shot clock violations....Pippen even scared to attempt a shot.....no offensive flow.....Bulls blew the whole lead and now down 4 pts.......Barkley and Thunder Dan killing bulls offensively......Bulls time out......Jordan cussing out pippen.....yelling at Pippen to stop panicking.....I've never seen Pippen so scared on court....also entire bulls team gassed offensively.

This is why MJ's brilliance in forever unmatched. ON THE ROAD, he literally and figuratively takes over the rest of the entire 4th Quarter for Bulls......steller turnaround fadeaways over KJ......Hard dribble pull ups over thunder Dan.....rebounds drives an entire length lay up over half of the suns team.....MJ scores all points of Bulls lowest scoring quarter ever in NBA finals history (all 9 clutch pts by MJ).



..14 sec left.....Migraining, choking Pippen in mind......in time out, MJ himself desides to inbound, and MJ decides to get ball back in back court.......play was designed for horace or jordan for layup tie game into OT......Paxon 3 was never planned.....phil and pax both talk about this in documentary.......Suns were literally consumed on MJ beating them.....decides to focus on MJ mid court.....choking Pip gets ball up court....has no confidence....choking Horace has literally a lay up towards basket.....but Paxon finds himself wide open..... Phils rule was simple for 3 pointer shooting BJ and Pax......If they find themselves open, just pull the trigger....Wide open Paxon nails it....3.8 secs still left.

1993 Bulls had no business winning game 6. They deserve to lose and better team Suns deserved to win Game 6 and Game 7. Had MJ did not inbound the ball and ran into front court, or after inbounding the ball,....just ran up the court..... paxon had ZERO chance of being wide open for 3. ZERO!.....MJ being the last man up the back court and Suns extreme focus on making sure MJ dont beat them......why Bulls escaped with a 3peat!.[/QUOTE]

[SouBeachTalents]

This dude autistically copying and pasting the same post word for word for absolutely no reason :lol

[sdot_thadon]

This dude autistically copying and pasting the same post word for word for absolutely no reason :lol

And is literally trying to give Mj all the credit for running towards mid court and passing the ball lolol.

[gengiskhan]

And is literally trying to give Mj all the credit for running towards mid court and passing the ball lolol.

9 pts out of 12 pts total 4th quarter output. !

75% of the entire 4thquarter points.

Only player to keep Bulls in the game ON THE ROAD when entire team choked away lead MJ gave before going to bench.

What Paxon 3?

There is no Paxon game winner if Jordan scores 8 points out 12. Bulls loose by 1 pt.

Also, This 1993 bulls could not have played another OT game ON THE ROAD. After losing Triple OT game AT HOME.

[gengiskhan]

This dude autistically copying and pasting the same post word for word for absolutely no reason :lol

need me to copy paste you 3rd time you full retarded ni***

just ask!

you ma had to take that dump after 9 mo aint she!

more like gay beach a** stretching talent. :lol

[Da_Realist]

Paxson hit the biggest shot of the whole series after Jordan gave the ball up 50 feet from the basket.

Did Paxon also match MJ's series scoring output and hit the shot while MJ was blowing on his hands in the corner praying to be saved? Watch the replay. The stats don't show LeBron watching Kyrie just like we all were except he had a better view.

[Da_Realist]

LeBron wasn't involved in the play at all. Didn't even set the screen. The GOAT of stats.

[RRR3]

https://content.imageresizer.com/images/memes/Smiling-Mask-Crying-Man-meme-7.jpg
:roll:

[gengiskhan]

Did Paxon also match MJ's series scoring output and hit the shot while MJ was blowing on his hands in the corner praying to be saved? Watch the replay. The stats don't show LeBron watching Kyrie just like we all were except he had a better view.

Paxson Game Winner mini documentary!............must watch


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsffXQmpwDY

Panicky Pippen could not even inbound........MJ took the inbounding responsibility.

Just think about it.

Bulls most important scorer takes inbounding responsibility because their true playmaker is migraining panicking again. :lol

Panicky Pippen could TO again.......MJ stretched the defense full court by getting ball back in back court. MJ used as attention decoy!.

6'10" Horace, massive hands, extra long wingspan chokes again against 6'4" white boy Danny Ainge 2 feet from basket.

Athletic, 28 YO Horace chokes and passes a one dribble and easy two-handed tomahawk dunk and give up ball to Paxson.

When it came to clutch time, winning time, 6'8" Pippen and 6'10" Horace were two pair of best marries. :lol

[gengiskhan]

LeBron wasn't involved in the play at all. Didn't even set the screen. The GOAT of stats.

LeBron even missed an easy dunk on Draymond face.

LeBron was hiding happily while Love was giving everything he has one 1-on-1 defensely to Curry's last shot.

LeBron was hiding happily while Kyrie took 1-on-1 championship winner and made it.

But what does NBA, ESPN and Klutch sports tries to remind us over and over again?

That block LBJ had on Iggy.

They try hard to make us forget, Kyrie won Lebron that ring with game winner.

They try hard to make us forget, Love was left alone fending Curry's potential game winner.

[Da_Realist]

Paxson Game Winner mini documentary!............must watch


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsffXQmpwDY

Panicky Pippen could not even inbound........MJ took the inbounding responsibility.

Just think about it.

Bulls most important scorer takes inbounding responsibility because their true playmaker is migraining panicking again. :lol

Panicky Pippen could TO again.......MJ stretched the defense full court by getting ball back in back court. MJ used as attention decoy!.

6'10" Horace, massive hands, extra long wingspan chokes again against 6'4" white boy Danny Ainge 2 feet from basket.

Athletic, 28 YO Horace chokes and passes a one dribble and easy two-handed tomahawk dunk and give up ball to Paxson.

When it came to clutch time, winning time, 6'8" Pippen and 6'10" Horace were two pair of best marries. :lol

Point being MJ was involved in the play. Of course. If MJ averaged 29 but Paxson averaged 27 and took over the offense to hit the biggest shot of the series while MJ was sitting in the corner watching, I wouldn't be pretending Kyrie didn't exist years later.

[sdot_thadon]

9 pts out of 12 pts total 4th quarter output. !

75% of the entire 4thquarter points.

Only player to keep Bulls in the game ON THE ROAD when entire team choked away lead MJ gave before going to bench.

What Paxon 3?

There is no Paxon game winner if Jordan scores 8 points out 12. Bulls loose by 1 pt.

Also, This 1993 bulls could not have played another OT game ON THE ROAD. After losing Triple OT game AT HOME.

And Lebron scored 11 in the 4th of game 7 and was the only Cav to score from 9 min left till Kyries shot with under a min to go. While also having an alltime great defensive play just before hand. There's no Kyrie game winner if LeBron doesn't carry the Cavs through the 4th and paste Igoudala's shot into the history books. And. AND. Lebron proceeds to make a ft to make it a 2 possession game with 11 seconds to go.

[SouBeachTalents]

Did Paxon also match MJ's series scoring output and hit the shot while MJ was blowing on his hands in the corner praying to be saved? Watch the replay. The stats don't show LeBron watching Kyrie just like we all were except he had a better view.
What kind of mental gymnastic bullshit is this lol. Neither of them touched the ball in the half court, two other Bulls did before Paxson hit the shot. I guarantee you if the Kyrie shot went down like that you'd 100% find a way to talk shit about it.

"He gave the ball up 50 feet from the basket!" :lol

Jordan carried the scoring burden in a historic fashion, while LeBron lead both teams in every statistical category, something no other player in history has done. They were both ATG performances, no need to get bent all out of shape about it.

[rmt]

Is there some award for best FMVP? I hope those polled know that MJ has 6 FMVPs/rings (50% more) than Lebron's 4.

[And1AllDay]

I'm still trying to find the Finals Jordan did this

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlPvfRQaUAA5E5N.jpg:large

isssaaaaa blood bath in here

[BlackMamba8]

isssaaaaa blood bath in here

Wow with those stats he must have 15 championships right? How many does he have again in 20 years? Shut your mouth and this is the last time ill say it. Got it peasant?

[And1AllDay]

b-b-b-b-buh scoring ppgz doe!!!1!1!!111

:oldlol: allen iverson chucker fans in da house

[And1AllDay]

Wow with those stats he must have 15 championships right? How many does he have again in 20 years? Shut your mouth and this is the last time ill say it. Got it peasant?

igloodala up for the layupp

ohhhh blocked by james!!!!!

your nightmare forever

[BlackMamba8]

igloodala up for the layupp

ohhhh blocked by james!!!!!

your nightmare forever

how? When hes won 4 chips in 20 years LMAO....has the most turn overs in HISTORY and is a couple of shots away from the MOST MISSED SHOTS OF ALL TIME. Yep....just shows you all his numbers are LONGEVITY stats.....when it really counts he doesn't win. Why didn't he win the first year he was with the lakers? They missed the playoffs only to win a bubble chip when AD came? Barely too? How do you lose 2 games against a heat team that missed 2 of their stars? Yall should have swept them. You will learn one day boy.

[And1AllDay]

igloodala up for the layupp

ohhhh blocked by james!!!!!

your nightmare forever

gott'm

[ImKobe]

It's not everyday players get to put up 33 shots a game against Dan Majerle lol.

And GS had a Lebron stopper? Bron didn't even go off before Dray suspension + Iggy injury in that series tbh. He played a small-ball team where he could hunt mismatches & get to the rim with no contest.

[gengiskhan]

And GS had a Lebron stopper? Bron didn't even go off before Dray suspension + Iggy injury in that series tbh. He played a small-ball team where he could hunt mismatches & get to the rim with no contest.

Plus....

LBJs inability to do true facial dunks.

LBJ got a running start. Draymond is caught flat footed off guard. Dray did not even get up that high but still was able to easily challenge.

LBJ just cannot sky like MJ and really go "upstairs" despite running start to the dunk. this should've been "and 1" easily on LBJs strength alone.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIGWQKPMKNI

[SATAN]

:roll:

:oldlol:

[gengiskhan]

And Lebron scored 11 in the 4th of game 7 and was the only Cav to score from 9 min left till Kyries shot with under a min to go. While also having an alltime great defensive play just before hand. There's no Kyrie game winner if LeBron doesn't carry the Cavs through the 4th and paste Igoudala's shot into the history books. And. AND. Lebron proceeds to make a ft to make it a 2 possession game with 11 seconds to go.

Not the same thing at all.

Bulls score only 12 pts (LOWER) and actually WON in spite of Suns HIGHER 19 pts 4th Q output.

GSW actually scored 13 pts (LOWER) and LOST and rightfully so to CAVS 18 pts (HIGHER) 4th Q output.

in so many words, GSW helped out LBJ whereas SUNS beat out MJ by outscoring the Bulls.

huge difference.

also, MJs scoring 75% of 4th Q pts >> LBJs 61% of 4th Q pts. (also, LBJ era easy to score offensively. No physical D. No Hand checking)

also, It was 1993 Bulls that choked away lead and almost lost the game with sheer meltdown. 12 pts

just like 2016 GSW that actually choked and lost the game as they melted down. 13 pts

It was Bulls who had the all the pressure to 3-Peat just like 2016 GSW who had the incredible pressure of 73-9 and to re-peat. become the greatest NBA team ever.

2016 Cavs previously lost to same GSW and were now playing with house money. no pressure. pressure was all on 2017 GSW to repeat as champs with 73-9 record.

and 2016 Cavs were helped out by Draymonds incredible stupidity and suspension. Something 90s finalists never did. like deliberately helping out opposition by getting suspended. and actually joining rivals Klutch sports later on and becoming a lifelong cuck of LBJ.

1993 finals, Ainge MJ almost had a physical fight. Thunder Dan MJ also had physical altrication. But never to a point of suspension.

Never seen an NBA player with less shame than Draymond. Gifted 2017 Ring and Joins LBJ's media company without any shame.

This alone shows how less of a leader Curry is of GSW. Draymond actually ditched Curry for LBJ who he saw regularly in finals.

[gengiskhan]

Wow with those stats he must have 15 championships right? How many does he have again in 20 years? Shut your mouth and this is the last time ill say it. Got it peasant?

look......I desperately rooted for LBJ to get Cavs franchise their maiden championship!

Cavs would've gotten one in 2015 if Love did not injured.

but

this is getting out of control.

Draymond suspension alone cast a huge shadow on 2016 cavs ring after GSW being up 3-1. Entire momentum was shifted to Cavs.

NBA appeals board should've overturned Draymond suspension as there was no real punches thrown and rough physical fight btw LBJ an draymond. both benches clearing out. LBJ initiated walk over and Draymond reacted with all his stupidity. that was it.

nonetheless, Kyrie is the real reason LBJ has that Cavs ring. and this ring is much much inferior to what MJ did 1991 -1993 NBA. thats some serious GOAT stuff.

[8Ball]

I'd say what LeBron did in 2016 will be remembered more, even though MJ was more consistent throughout the series.

LeBron came back from a 3-1 deficit against a 73 win team and went GOD mode to close out the series, led all players in every statistical category.

That's some Hollywood type shit.

Who the **** even remembers the 93 Suns? A whatever finals team.


Meanwhile 2016 Warriors won 73 games.

[gengiskhan]

Who the **** even remembers the 93 Suns? A whatever finals team.


Meanwhile 2016 Warriors won 73 games.

and no one forgets Draymond Green game suspension either.

Everyone remembers 1993 suns. its because it had a true leader unlike Curry's GSW. his name is Sir Charles.

[sdot_thadon]

And GS had a Lebron stopper? Bron didn't even go off before Dray suspension + Iggy injury in that series tbh. He played a small-ball team where he could hunt mismatches & get to the rim with no contest.

Don't be an idiot, the warriors had better defenders for sure. It's not even a debate. Draymond didn't play the last 2 games of the series? I coulda swore Iguodala got blocked in game 7 and Draymond fouled Lebron on a dunk attempt with seconds left in the game before Lebron sealed it. Majerle. 33 shots per game. He never did that before or again in the finals.

[sdot_thadon]

Not the same thing at all.

Bulls score only 12 pts (LOWER) and actually WON in spite of Suns HIGHER 19 pts 4th Q output.

GSW actually scored 13 pts (LOWER) and LOST and rightfully so to CAVS 18 pts (HIGHER) 4th Q output.

in so many words, GSW helped out LBJ whereas SUNS beat out MJ by outscoring the Bulls.

huge difference.

also, MJs scoring 75% of 4th Q pts >> LBJs 61% of 4th Q pts. (also, LBJ era easy to score offensively. No physical D. No Hand checking)

also, It was 1993 Bulls that choked away lead and almost lost the game with sheer meltdown. 12 pts

just like 2016 GSW that actually choked and lost the game as they melted down. 13 pts

It was Bulls who had the all the pressure to 3-Peat just like 2016 GSW who had the incredible pressure of 73-9 and to re-peat. become the greatest NBA team ever.

2016 Cavs previously lost to same GSW and were now playing with house money. no pressure. pressure was all on 2017 GSW to repeat as champs with 73-9 record.

and 2016 Cavs were helped out by Draymonds incredible stupidity and suspension. Something 90s finalists never did. like deliberately helping out opposition by getting suspended. and actually joining rivals Klutch sports later on and becoming a lifelong cuck of LBJ.

1993 finals, Ainge MJ almost had a physical fight. Thunder Dan MJ also had physical altrication. But never to a point of suspension.

Never seen an NBA player with less shame than Draymond. Gifted 2017 Ring and Joins LBJ's media company without any shame.

This alone shows how less of a leader Curry is of GSW. Draymond actually ditched Curry for LBJ who he saw regularly in finals.

All this actually means is the Bulls choked a lead while the Cavs made a comeback facing elimination. Just another reason Lebron's Fmvp could be seen as better, thanks. Oh and the Warriors were a far better team than the Suns, no questions asked. You're hurting Mjs case the more you post lol.

[SATAN]

Who is behind the gengiskhan alt?

[gengiskhan]

All this actually means is the Bulls choked a lead while the Cavs made a comeback facing elimination. Just another reason Lebron's Fmvp could be seen as better, thanks. Oh and the Warriors were a far better team than the Suns, no questions asked. You're hurting Mjs case the more you post lol.

Kid.

Your kinds can't deal with math......thats your entire generation's problem.

atleast know this "75% >>>> 61%" it is a know fact!.

LBJ stands no chance after Kyries 28 PPG and Draymond suspension to even come close to 1991 -1993 MJs FMVPs and GOAT finals dominance.

Only 2000 - 2002 Shaq came close to matching 1991 - 1993 MJ FMVP dominance.

LBJ is lucky if he can matches 2006 Wade's FMVP.

btw, nobody cares if GSW were 73-9 if their best defensive player and rim protector is suspended!.

1993 Suns had no injuries. no one was suspended. and 1993 season MVP was playing like one. dominating stats and matching MJs performances.

[Axe]

how? When hes won 4 chips in 20 years LMAO....has the most turn overs in HISTORY and is a couple of shots away from the MOST MISSED SHOTS OF ALL TIME. Yep....just shows you all his numbers are LONGEVITY stats.....when it really counts he doesn't win. Why didn't he win the first year he was with the lakers? They missed the playoffs only to win a bubble chip when AD came? Barely too? How do you lose 2 games against a heat team that missed 2 of their stars? Yall should have swept them. You will learn one day boy.
Inthidehoopth!!!

[ImKobe]

Don't be an idiot, the warriors had better defenders for sure. It's not even a debate. Draymond didn't play the last 2 games of the series? I coulda swore Iguodala got blocked in game 7 and Draymond fouled Lebron on a dunk attempt with seconds left in the game before Lebron sealed it. Majerle. 33 shots per game. He never did that before or again in the finals.

Warriors had Festus Ezeli guarding James on the perimeter on B2B possessions in the 4th quarter of a Game 7 in the Finals lol.. that guy hasn't played an NBA game since. Lebron had pretty mediocre/Kobe-esque numbers in his first 4 Finals before he started playing small ball GS teams that he could pad his stats against.

What Jordan did was far more impressive, sorry. He was dominant from start to finish & had the better peak performance (55 points) & was more consistent and had less help than Lebron.

Curry was playing hurt with an injured knee, Bogut injured his knee, Iggy injured his back & Dray was suspended for a game. Barkley was so much better than that injured version of Steph who couldn't get separation even against Kevin Love lol.

[ELITEpower23]

Who the **** even remembers the 93 Suns? A whatever finals team.


Meanwhile 2016 Warriors won 73 games.

Professor 8ball stays winning once again.

[ELITEpower23]

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anotha one

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[8Ball]

and no one forgets Draymond Green game suspension either.

Everyone remembers 1993 suns. its because it had a true leader unlike Curry's GSW. his name is Sir Charles.

And everyone forgets Kevin Love had a concussion and missed a game, and played like shit afterwards. But I don't see you bringing it up.

Draymond Green played game 6 and 7 and lost.



73 win Warriors takes a gigantic bukkake shit over 93 suns.

[warriorfan]

And everyone forgets Kevin Love had a concussion and missed a game, and played like shit afterwards. But I don't see you bringing it up.

Draymond Green played game 6 and 7 and lost.



73 win Warriors takes a gigantic bukkake shit over 93 suns.

look at this cope lmaooooooo

everyone in the know knows adam silver got robbed of the 2016 fmvp

sure all the zoomer kids who never even watched the series will try to prop up bron as a goat

real ones who actually watched will know

the truth will always come to light

[8Ball]

look at this cope lmaooooooo

everyone in the know knows adam silver got robbed of the 2016 fmvp

sure all the zoomer kids who never even watched the series will try to prop up bron as a goat

real ones who actually watched will know

the truth will always come to light


The 2016 Warriors >>>>>>>>>> The 93 Suns. Or do you hate Bran so much you willing to take a shit on your own 2016 team?



93 Suns - 1 all-nba player

2016 Warriors - 3 all-nba. 1st, 2nd and 3rd team.

[Axe]

The 2016 Warriors >>>>>>>>>> The 93 Suns. Or do you hate Bran so much you willing to take a shit on your own 2016 team?



93 Suns - 1 all-nba player

2016 Warriors - 3 all-nba. 1st, 2nd and 3rd team.
Ether.

[Da_Realist]

And everyone forgets Kevin Love had a concussion and missed a game, and played like shit afterwards. But I don't see you bringing it up.

Draymond Green played game 6 and 7 and lost.



73 win Warriors takes a gigantic bukkake shit over 93 suns.

They couldn't even beat the Cavs. And they got blown out by 30 points like 6 times during the playoffs.

[gengiskhan]

They couldn't even beat the Cavs. And they got blown out by 30 points like 6 times during the playoffs.

Comparing 1993 Suns to 2016 GSW

Suns went down 0-2 to Bulls.

But they got better and better and better as

Bulls got worst and worst and worst

Game 2 where it all started!.......Suns lost a close one at home....Sir Charles matches MJ's performance....

Game 3 where Suns were just a "superior" team......Beat Bulls "on road" in Triple OT.

Game 3 where Suns again were just "superior" team......MJ went for 55 pts....Sun lost a very close game by 4 pts that they should've won. Charles again steller performance......Take MJs 55 pts, Bulls stand no chance winning "at home"

Game 5 where Suns again were "superior" team......Entire Suns line up outperformed Pippen and Co. overcame Steller MJ's 40 pt game comfortably.

Game 6 where Suns again were "better" team.......Should've won this one......This was Bulls worst game of the series ever "on road"....MJ 4th Quarter takeover won them championship.....Suns had all the momentum going into Game 7.


2016 GSW finals.......they got worst and worst and worst......After 3-1 lead, suspension, injuries helped cavs just as 2015 cavs injuries of love and kyrie helped 2015 GSW win rings

[Hey Yo]

"worst and worst and worst"


:roll:

[3ba11]

The 2016 Warriors >>>>>>>>>> The 93 Suns. Or do you hate Bran so much you willing to take a shit on your own 2016 team?



93 Suns - 1 all-nba player

2016 Warriors - 3 all-nba. 1st, 2nd and 3rd team.


No one cares about the opinion of a few dozen media members that have group-think.. it's absurd to cite media accolades as an argument.



Finals

16' Kyrie....... 27 on 56.4 TS
93' Pippen..... 20 on 46.9 TS

93' Jordan..... 41 on 55.5 TS
16' Lebron..... 29 on 56.2 TS


Lebron had an equal-scoring partner to attract equal defensive attention, so he never defeated max defensive attention (never carried scoring load on championship level)

It's impossible to lose when your sidekick is outplaying their best player.

[8Ball]

2016 GSW finals.......they got worst and worst and worst......After 3-1 lead, suspension, injuries helped cavs just as 2015 cavs injuries of love and kyrie helped 2015 GSW win rings

Kevin Love was injured with a concussion and actually missed playing time.



Warriors benefited from Kevin Love being injured but the GOAT overcame it.

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[8Ball]

No one cares about the opinion of a few dozen media members that have group-think.. it's absurd to cite media accolades as an argument.



Finals

16' Kyrie....... 27 on 56.4 TS
93' Pippen..... 20 on 46.9 TS

93' Jordan..... 41 on 55.5 TS
16' Lebron..... 29 on 56.2 TS


Lebron had an equal-scoring partner to attract equal defensive attention, so he never defeated max defensive attention (never carried scoring load on championship level)

It's impossible to lose when your sidekick is outplaying their best player.


Peak Jordan with Kyrie in 2016, Warriors sweep.

[sdot_thadon]

Warriors had Festus Ezeli guarding James on the perimeter on B2B possessions in the 4th quarter of a Game 7 in the Finals lol.. that guy hasn't played an NBA game since. Lebron had pretty mediocre/Kobe-esque numbers in his first 4 Finals before he started playing small ball GS teams that he could pad his stats against.

What Jordan did was far more impressive, sorry. He was dominant from start to finish & had the better peak performance (55 points) & was more consistent and had less help than Lebron.

Curry was playing hurt with an injured knee, Bogut injured his knee, Iggy injured his back & Dray was suspended for a game. Barkley was so much better than that injured version of Steph who couldn't get separation even against Kevin Love lol.

You could say he scored dominantly in the 93 finals. Lebron played a full dominant slate of basketball in the 2016 finals. There's no comeback for leading both teams in every category with those filthy defensive metrics you don't want me to post. Scoring is awesome we get it. But doing everything? That's better and it's not even up for debate. And never try to cite who guarded Lebron when guys can produce w laughable list of Mjs opponents lol.

[8Ball]

They couldn't even beat the Cavs. And they got blown out by 30 points like 6 times during the playoffs.


Liar.


They got blown out by 30 only 1 time, and it was against LeBron ball.

[sdot_thadon]

Kid.

Your kinds can't deal with math......thats your entire generation's problem.

atleast know this "75% >>>> 61%" it is a know fact!.

LBJ stands no chance after Kyries 28 PPG and Draymond suspension to even come close to 1991 -1993 MJs FMVPs and GOAT finals dominance.

Only 2000 - 2002 Shaq came close to matching 1991 - 1993 MJ FMVP dominance.

LBJ is lucky if he can matches 2006 Wade's FMVP.

btw, nobody cares if GSW were 73-9 if their best defensive player and rim protector is suspended!.

1993 Suns had no injuries. no one was suspended. and 1993 season MVP was playing like one. dominating stats and matching MJs performances.
Actually you talk like you're from my generation but can't let go of old things. As I said before, we get it Scoring!!! Just hard for the sophisticated fan of this era to be stuck on one aspect of the game. And yeah it's likely THE most important aspect. But Lebron also led the finals in Scoring.....and assists.....and rebounds...and Steals.....and Blocks. This is just a substantially higher load to bear and win with and the only one to ever do it. Mj can't touch this finals.

[Da_Realist]

Liar.


They got blown out by 30 only 1 time, and it was against LeBron ball.

:oldlol:

Oh my bad. The Warriors only lost by 28 points. Then 24 the very next game. Lost by 30 in the Finals. Lost by 15 then 14 the game after that.
They lost 8 games in the Playoffs, 6 of them by double digits, 3 of them by more than 20. One of them by 30! Lost 3 straight games to end the run to a 57 win team.

Some "GOAT" team.

But thanks for correcting my mistake. My bad. :cheers:

[SATAN]

Look how much this guy struggles to ever admit he is wrong. Insane.

[sdot_thadon]

One of Mike's best finals opponents scored 64 and 54 total points in playoff games in the same run......

[And1AllDay]

Peak Jordan with Kyrie in 2016, Warriors sweep.

+1

we stay winningggg

:dancin