Tatum 17 pts on 32%

[iamgine]

Boston up 2-0.

Any other finals team where their franchise player can be this bad and they still blowing the other team out?

[Neal Romer]

Boston up 2-0.

Any other finals team where their franchise player can be this bad and they still blowing the other team out?


All the teams that Bron has faced can stomp the league without their best player, but other than that no.

[SouBeachTalents]

Curry in 2016, albeit on better efficiency, was averaging 14.5 ppg over the first 2 games that the Warriors won by a combined 48 points.

[warriorfan]

Curry in 2016, albeit on better efficiency, was averaging 14.5 ppg over the first 2 games that the Warriors won by a combined 48 points.

Watch the games. It was because Curry was injured and even him not being full strength he still commanded an insane amount of traps and double teams.

Was literally open Gym for some of the others. If Barnes and Iggy don’t go on historic cold steaks in game 6 and 7 the Warriors win.

Watch the game and tell me how many wide open mid range shots barnes and iggy bricks

[GimmeThat]

Dirk in 2011 had a TS% where only Marion and Barea was worse than him, coming in at .537%, that's at 26/9.7/2.

if anything, Porzingis's ability to assist is under the telescope

[RRR3]

Watch the games. It was because Curry was injured and even him not being full strength he still commanded an insane amount of traps and double teams.

Was literally open Gym for some of the others. If Barnes and Iggy don’t go on historic cold steaks in game 6 and 7 the Warriors win.

Watch the game and tell me how many wide open mid range shots barnes and iggy bricks
8 years later you're still in tears :roll:

[SouBeachTalents]

Watch the games. It was because Curry was injured and even him not being full strength he still commanded an insane amount of traps and double teams.

Was literally open Gym for some of the others. If Barnes and Iggy don’t go on historic cold steaks in game 6 and 7 the Warriors win.

Watch the game and tell me how many wide open mid range shots barnes and iggy bricks
If Curry doesn't score 17 points on 6/19 with 4 turnovers in Game 7, including a ghastly 1/6 in the 4th throwing behind the back passes out of bounds and getting locked up by Kevin Love, the Warriors win.

[hold this L]

If Curry doesn't score 17 points on 6/19 with 4 turnovers in Game 7, including a ghastly 1/6 in the 4th throwing behind the back passes out of bounds and getting locked up by Kevin Love, the Warriors win.

Curry was awful in game 7 and the primary reason they lost in 2016 after Dray's suspension, you on the other hand are an idiot for pointing out the similarities for the first two games.

[gengiskhan]

Boston up 2-0.

Any other finals team where their franchise player can be this bad and they still blowing the other team out?

Good offenses win you games!

Good defenses win you Championships.

Extreme example is 1993 Bulls 3peat and 1998 Bulls 3peat.

The last play of both 3-peats was NOT Paxon game winner and NOT Jordan's game winner respectively.

The last Play of 1993 NBA Finals was Kevin Johnson's runner BLOCKED by Horace....game clock expires.

The last play of 1998 NBA Finals was John Stockton's 3 Pointer partially BLOCKED by Harper....game clock expires.

Had both shots gone on uncontested and Both shots looked very good. Bulls loose both championship as both games 7 were ON THE ROAD.

Tatum may struggle the entire series. As long as Boston plays much better defense than Mavs, they will win it all.

[sdot_thadon]

Boston up 2-0.

Any other finals team where their franchise player can be this bad and they still blowing the other team out?

Strictly from a scoring perspective? Probably could look at Bird in 81. I can't remember if his efficiency was better but I know he had several low scoring games while still winning the chip.

[3ba11]

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* 14' Spurs destroyed the Heat with no Spur producing much at all.

* 07' Spurs were led by Tony Parker

* 11' Mavs beat the Heat with a 1-man team (Jason Terry as their 2nd best player)


It doesn't take much to beat the worst type of Finals team that the NBA has ever produced - extremely ball-dominant teams like Luka and Lebron have the worst Finals records...

Since the Celtics are playing the worst brand and comp possible, so it takes nothing to win.. If Tatum was facing a real team, then he would play better.. :confusedshrug:

[warriorfan]

If Curry doesn't score 17 points on 6/19 with 4 turnovers in Game 7, including a ghastly 1/6 in the 4th throwing behind the back passes out of bounds and getting locked up by Kevin Love, the Warriors win.

low iq

[Axe]

If Curry doesn't score 17 points on 6/19 with 4 turnovers in Game 7, including a ghastly 1/6 in the 4th throwing behind the back passes out of bounds and getting locked up by Kevin Love, the Warriors win.
Also got sonned by delly. Poor gerbil. :ohwell:

[RRR3]

low iq
Just give it up, pops. You don't see me trying to defend LeBron for 2011. Just admit your hero choked, it happens. Every player has choked.

[highwhey]

If Curry doesn't score 17 points on 6/19 with 4 turnovers in Game 7, including a ghastly 1/6 in the 4th throwing behind the back passes out of bounds and getting locked up by Kevin Love, the Warriors win.

https://media.tenor.com/e9HQLoVOLCIAAAAM/hirxha-hahaha.gif

[SouBeachTalents]

low iq
As opposed to high IQ arguments like Bosh > Kobe & Love = Kareem.

[warriorfan]

8 years later you're still in tears :roll:

slow day at the library, champ?

[sdot_thadon]

Strictly from a scoring perspective? Probably could look at Bird in 81. I can't remember if his efficiency was better but I know he had several low scoring games while still winning the chip.

Looking at the numbers Bird put up 15ppg on 42% scored 18, 19, 8, 8, 12, and 27 in the clincher. He did other things kinda like Tatum but not what you'd expect scoring wise outta bird.

[tpols]

Yea that's wild. He looks like Michael Porter Jr. out there.

If he even remotely performs its gonna be a landslide.

[Wally450]

Kobe in 2000.

[Manny98]

As one of the biggest Tatum criticizers on here I think he's actually having a solid series

He's been great in terms of defense and rebounding and has made the right play 95% of the time

Dallas are sending multiple bodies at him every time he touches the ball which has opened up easy looks for the rest of the team

[Wally450]

10 rebounds and 9 assists per game with great defense.

[gengiskhan]

As one of the biggest Tatum criticizers on here I think he's actually having a solid series

He's been great in terms of defense and rebounding and has made the right play 95% of the time

Dallas are sending multiple bodies at him every time he touches the ball which has opened up easy looks for the rest of the team

Not one is Tatum to score 25 PPG in finals.

Being a teams Superstar, He has to be around 20-21 PPG. at atleast 43%FG. in today's day and age where he can score at will.

shooting 32%FG is unacceptable even for 2nd best player Brown. particularly, Tatum is not facing DPOY center Gorbert as rim protector.

His 3 pt shooting his garbage. His finishing around the rim is hot garbage. what left? a mid-range game! that no offenses depend on these days.

[RachlNicholsazz]

Tatum is like a less talented Harden with much better teammates and better coaching/organization behind him. He's never going to be that guy

[Neal Romer]

Boston up 2-0.

Any other finals team where their franchise player can be this bad and they still blowing the other team out?


Who knew this would turn out to be kind of an Olympic preview.

Not that he was expected to be one of the best players on Team USA, but in the sense that theyre so stacked they dont even need to play him.

[Real Men Wear Green]

He also averaged 10 rebounds and 8 assists. He shot badly but there's more to basketball than just shooting. For Tatum that was the story for the whole postseason.

[tpols]

Is Tatum the worst Finals performer ever? Dude is fully healthy but just shook.

It was even worse in the 2022 NBA Finals. While the Celtics were up in Game 4 @ home in The Garden, Tatum shot 8/23 with Curry leading a furious comeback dropping 40+ points on 70+% TS and 130+ ORTG to save Golden State from going down 1-3 and probably being toast.

If he plays just average Boston would've won in 2022 as well.

[SouBeachTalents]

Is Tatum the worst Finals performer ever? Dude is fully healthy but just shook.

It was even worse in the 2022 NBA Finals. While the Celtics were up in Game 4 @ home in The Garden, Tatum shot 8/23 with Curry leading a furious comeback dropping 40+ points on 70+% TS and 130+ ORTG to save Golden State from going down 1-3 and probably being toast.

If he plays just average Boston would've won in 2022 as well.
Tbf LeBron was even worse his first 2 Finals before becoming an ATG one, I anticipate Tatum will have future Finals to prove himself. Through 2 Finals though? He's definitely been unimpressive.

[Wally450]

Is Tatum the worst Finals performer ever? Dude is fully healthy but just shook.

It was even worse in the 2022 NBA Finals. While the Celtics were up in Game 4 @ home in The Garden, Tatum shot 8/23 with Curry leading a furious comeback dropping 40+ points on 70+% TS and 130+ ORTG to save Golden State from going down 1-3 and probably being toast.

If he plays just average Boston would've won in 2022 as well.

If you look at just shooting, then yea I guess you could say that, but playmaking, defense, rebounding, he was great in those areas.

[Wally450]

He also averaged 10 rebounds and 8 assists. He shot badly but there's more to basketball than just shooting. For Tatum that was the story for the whole postseason.

Shh, they don't want to admit that. It goes against their anti-Tatum agenda.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Shh, they don't want to admit that. It goes against their anti-Tatum agenda.
They're going to get worse, having to watch Tatum and the Celtics win another championship this upcoming season. Some of them have already lost their minds. It will be getting ugly.

[ShawkFactory]

If you look at just shooting, then yea I guess you could say that, but playmaking, defense, rebounding, he was great in those areas.

That's the thing too that a lot of people miss. While he shot poorly, his overall game didn't suffer or change at all. I mean if he makes one extra shot per game then he's at 44%.

I was talking about this in the Ben Simmons thread but the choking comes into play for me when someone noticeably plays the game differently, or more timidly, then they usually would.