Draymond says 01 Lakers would beat Curry/KD Warriors

[eliteballer]

7:29.

Under the real rules.

Basically saying that the rule changes have made it easier to look good on offense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nsf-eC1Tigk

[ImKobe]

GS just has no size to deal with Shaq like people can talk about 3s all they want but Lakers had guys who could make corner 3s at a decent rate + Shaq would get high-percentage looks in the paint all game, even if GS double-teamed him and then you add Kobe on top of all that and there's nothing GS can do to stop them really.

[Manny98]

GS just has no size to deal with Shaq like people can talk about 3s all they want but Lakers had guys who could make corner 3s at a decent rate + Shaq would get high-percentage looks in the paint all game, even if GS double-teamed him and then you add Kobe on top of all that and there's nothing GS can do to stop them really.

What do the Lakers have to stop Durant,Curry, and Klay bombing 3s all game?

It goes both ways Shaq would be a complete defensive liability in that series, the Warriors would simply target and abuse him in the pick and roll every single possession

[ImKobe]

What do the Lakers have to stop Durant,Curry, and Klay bombing 3s all game?

It goes both ways Shaq would be a complete defensive liability in that series, the Warriors would simply target and abuse him in the pick and roll every single possession

'01 Shaq was a good defender and Warriors have 3 guys the Lakers don't really need to worry about in Dray, Iguodala & Zaza who Shaq can guard, and sure GS would put Shaq in as many P&Rs as possible to force switches but Kobe is guarding Steph or whoever's bringing up the ball and he's athletic enough to fight through those screens.

[Axe]

What do the Lakers have to stop Durant,Curry, and Klay bombing 3s all game?

It goes both ways Shaq would be a complete defensive liability in that series, the Warriors would simply target and abuse him in the pick and roll every single possession
When this happens, kobe could get open looks but will brick many shots like what he's usually done before.

[Bankaii]

'01 Shaq was a good defender and Warriors have 3 guys the Lakers don't really need to worry about in Dray, Iguodala & Zaza who Shaq can guard, and sure GS would put Shaq in as many P&Rs as possible to force switches but Kobe is guarding Steph or whoever's bringing up the ball and he's athletic enough to fight through those screens.
Shaq was a good *paint defender. Put him in the PnR every possession and he looks worse than Gobert did guarding Luka. If you think Kobe is going to magically fight through every screen then you simply don’t understand defense.

Dray shot 41% from 3 in the 2017 playoffs. Idk why you even mentioned Zaza and Iggy, their role isn’t to score.

[Wardell Curry]

2001 rules or 2017 rules I don't think even people that play in the league like Draymond understand just how much better the league has gotten at shooting during that time frame.

The Warriors would have no answer for Shaq but he's getting or his team is getting torched on defense because of him when the Warriors have 4 or 5 guys on the floor capable of going deep.

[Wardell Curry]

The biggest problem the Warriors would have are the amount of fouls to use against Shaq. That would be their "only" problem.

[tpols]

Shaq was a good *paint defender. Put him in the PnR every possession and he looks worse than Gobert did guarding Luka. If you think Kobe is going to magically fight through every screen then you simply don’t understand defense.

Dray shot 41% from 3 in the 2017 playoffs. Idk why you even mentioned Zaza and Iggy, their role isn’t to score.

The problem is Dray would get fouled out of every single game trying to guard Shaq. And then what? Zaza is on him?

You guys don't understand what Shaq was allowed to get away with on smaller defenders back then. He ragdolled mutumbo whose much bigger than dray. Zaza is a total joke.

Theres a reason the Lakers were sweeping Finals while having difficulty out west. A tiny frontcourt is straight BBQ chicken to Shaq. And that's not even bringing up Kobe who'd be slamming on them all game long as well.

We saw James Harden and an injured Chris Small come within a literal hair of beating the Curry Durant warriors. And you don't think peak Shaq Kobe stand a chance???

LMAO.

[1987_Lakers]

We saw James Harden and an injured Chris Small come within a literal hair of beating the Curry Durant warriors. And you don't think peak Shaq Kobe stand a chance???

That wasn't the 2017 team.

That's like me saying we saw choker Chris Webber and an injured Peja come within a literal hair of beating Shaq/Kobe, you don't think peak Curry, Durant, Dray, & Klay stand a chance?

[paksat]

When this happens, kobe could get open looks but will brick many shots like what he's usually done before.

Broke axe bitch


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[tpols]

The 2017 and 2018 Warriors fielded the exact same core of players both years. That argument doesn't work at all.

And yea the Kings could hang with the Warriors or Lakers too. They were basically the Warriors before the Warriors with how explosive and dynamic their offense was.

[1987_Lakers]

The 2017 and 2018 Warriors fielded the exact same core of players both years. That argument doesn't work at all.

And yea the Kings could hang with the Warriors or Lakers too. They were basically the Warriors before the Warriors with how explosive and dynamic their offense was.

And the '01 & '02 Lakers don't have basically the same core? :lol

You prop up that Kings team, but fail to mention that 2018 Rockets team won 65 games, had the #1 offense, #6 defense & Harden won MVP.

[tpols]

:roll:

Yea were all shaking in our boots over "MVP James Harden" and gonna ignore peak ****ing Shaq and Kobe.

This is comedy.

[1987_Lakers]

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Yea were all shaking in our boots over "MVP James Harden" and gonna ignore peak ****ing Shaq and Kobe.

This is comedy.

Peak Harden was better than anyone on that '02 Kings roster, but the Kings still came "within a hair" of beating the Lakers.

You see why your logic doesn't make sense?

[tpols]

The 2002 Kings were a much better team than the 2018 Rockets especially with Chris Paul hurt. It's just... a joke.

You're actually showing naivety and age here that you don't remember (probably never even watched) Sacramento back then. They were a powerhouse team. The Rockets were one off gimmicky 3pt chuking squad that got hot for a little but then ended up missing like 30 3s in a row to a choke away a double digit Game 7 lead.

The biggest thing though is the Warriors paint protection without Bogut would be the ULTIMATE achilles heel to having to face a 350 lb MDE Shaq and Kobe who was used to dunking on David Robinson and and Tim Duncan to the tune of a sweep.

Would the Warriors try to abuse Shaq in the PnR? Sure. They did that to Kevin Love and Curry and Klay were still bricking a lot of the time vs Cleveland.

3s aren't a certainty. I've seen the Splash bros go cold when it mattered most. Shaq and Kobe slamming the ball through the rim would be.

[1987_Lakers]

The 2002 Kings were a much better team than the 2018 Rockets

They are basically on the same tier. They were opposites of each other in terms of style, Kings loved to move the ball around and the Rockers were more ISO heavy, but still equally effective. Both great teams that would have won the title if it wasn't for injuries/bad officiating.

I personally think the '02 Kings wouldn't stand a chance against the KD Warriors, they are mirror images of them in terms of play-style, but they are the beta version, not nearly as talented. What made the Rockets matchup so well with the Warriors was their perimeter defense, they had a bunch of 3 and D players who could switch.

We saw prime Shaq lose to teams who had Greg Ostertag defending him.

In my opinion the Lakers just don't have the talent to compete and that's not a knock. Warriors are literally the GOAT team.

[tpols]

These are the Big Men the 2017 Warriors faced in the playoffs...

Maurice Harkless / Noah Vonleh
Rudy Gobert
LMA
Tristan Thompson

:biggums:

They're obviously an incredibly talented team but they didnt face anybody who could take advantage of their one weakness... which was a puny tiny frontcourt.

Their offensive center competition was a JOKE. :lol

[1987_Lakers]

These are the Big Men the 2017 Warriors faced in the playoffs...

Maurice Harkless / Noah Vonleh
Rudy Gobert
LMA
Tristan Thompson

:biggums:

They're obviously an incredibly talented team but they didnt face anybody who could take advantage of their one weakness... which was a puny tiny frontcourt.

Their offensive center competition was a JOKE. :lol

2 all-stars? Nice

[tpols]

Bro you just need to hold an L comparing the offensive destruction Shaq would inflict vs Rudy or LMA. This is just... flat out embarrassing at this point.

[1987_Lakers]

Bro you just need to hold an L comparing the offensive destruction Shaq would inflict vs Rudy or LMA. This is just... flat out embarrassing at this point.

So me pointing they were all-star caliber players means I’m comparing them to Shaq? Lol

You got destroyed here and are now trying to save face.

[FKAri]

Warriors should drop 3 guys from the end of the bench and scour the World to find 3 guys who've never heard of basketball but are the best options to deal with Shaq. Then they'd have a better chance.

Anytime a team is going to go small vs Shaq or a team is going to be physical vs the Warriors, the refs become a huge factor. And Shaq a good defender? Not outside the paint he isn't. BBQ rabbit with all the fixins out there.

[ImKobe]

Shaq was a good *paint defender. Put him in the PnR every possession and he looks worse than Gobert did guarding Luka. If you think Kobe is going to magically fight through every screen then you simply don’t understand defense.

Dray shot 41% from 3 in the 2017 playoffs. Idk why you even mentioned Zaza and Iggy, their role isn’t to score.

I'm just saying Warriors had players who the Lakers could ignore when defending KD & Steph. Shaq would be defending Zaza or Dray/Iggy and leaving them open, and even if those guys make a couple 3s per game the Lakers are still taking the paint away from GS as much as possible.

Warriors could use zone defense to stop the Lakers, but you get Shaq the ball at the ft line in that zone and he's finding open guys for easy shots, and if he's officiated like these modern NBA players where you can just elbow people on your way to the basket he's literally unstoppable no matter what type of defense you use against him. Shaq was impossible to officiate in the 90s & early 2000s, it would be even worse with how soft the league is now.

And if you don't believe me just look at how Embiid flops his way to the basket while injuring players. Now imagine a stronger & more durable version of that who isn't scared of contact.

[NBAGOAT]

devils advocate the lakers had trouble with the bucks in 01 with allen, glenn, cassell. This is a bad defensive team with a terrible center rotation and even though they were a jump shooting team took too many 3s. The bucks also only had 3 guys who could score usually 2 guys you could ignore on court. They had no chance stopping shaq but had a few bodies to soak up fouls and put a lot of attention on kobe and blitzed them on offense exploiting shaq on perimter. hard imagining curry, kd, klay couldnt do better. I get it was RS but i feel like it's unlikely they get completely dominated in finals with matchup issues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=om5DInucu9g&ab_channel=weiwenshi

[j3lademaster]

'01 Shaq was a good defender and Warriors have 3 guys the Lakers don't really need to worry about in Dray, Iguodala & Zaza who Shaq can guard, and sure GS would put Shaq in as many P&Rs as possible to force switches but Kobe is guarding Steph or whoever's bringing up the ball and he's athletic enough to fight through those screens.
Nah, 01 Shaq was a good rim and paint protector and post defender. He was lazy hedging the pick and roll and closing out on shooters. He used to get cooked by Big Country all the time because he didn’t like closing out on his 18 footers. Shaq’s bad free throw shooting is also going to take a toll, because the 01 Lakers never faced a team as efficient ppp wise than the 17 Warriors so they can hack a Shaq. Size wise, you’ll always lose to a team that has Shaq, but Zaza and McGee both being 7’ 270 is a big center bullpen even by 90’s and early 2000’s standards so the size advantage argument is overblown.

[Axe]

Broke axe bitch


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Stfu! Go polish the freaking wheels of your boss's s-class and buy him some goddamn eggs along the way. :lol