What changes do Dallas need to do next season?

[iamgine]

They now have finals experience. What move should they make next season?

[ArbitraryWater]

Kyrie cant be counted on in the big moments.

Papa luka need a real sidekick.

This dumbass killed their chances at a title.

[Manny98]

Went from missing the playoffs to getting to the finals beating the number 1 seed OKC and the number 1 defense Minnesota

If anything Dallas have overachieved this season and Kidd has done a fantastic job with this team, I don't think they need to do anything, stick with the same team and count on the likes of Green,Lively,PJ and Hardy improving over the off-season to get them over the hump

That being said I'm hearing from sources that Klay Thompson is seriously considering joining the Mavs or Lakers this off-season so look out for that

[Real Men Wear Green]

Went from missing the playoffs to getting to the finals beating the number 1 seed OKC and the number 1 defense Minnesota

If anything Dallas have overachieved this season and Kidd has done a fantastic job with this team, I don't think they need to do anything, stick with the same team and count on the likes of Green,Lively,PJ and Hardy improving over the off-season to get them over the hump

That being said I'm hearing from sources that Klay Thompson is seriously considering joining the Mavs or Lakers this off-season so look out for that
Surprisingly I agree with some of this, specifically that Dallas overachieved. However that does not mean they should just keep everything the same. This was a weird postseason where there was only one contender. Stay as they are and they can't win a championship vs the Celtics or a team on par with the Celtics. A good GM would definitely not rely on the players they already have to improve, who knows what a player, his friends agent family and private coaches will decide they need to do? There will be some guys that do what the Mav coaches tell them to do in the offseason. Then there will be other guys that think they need to hit the step back three off the dribble to get a max contract, or dudes that just figure they're good enough and their money is guaranteed and don't work on anything at all.

I won't comment on your sources but Klay Thompson would be a good fit for Dallas, as many 3 and D players as possible to make up for Irving and Doncic on defense/play off of those two on offense.

Also strange how Porzingis didn't work there. Big that protects the basket at a high level and can hit threes. How does he not fit in well on any team?

[j3lademaster]

Surprisingly I agree with some of this, specifically that Dallas overachieved. However that does not mean they should just keep everything the same. This was a weird postseason where there was only one contender. Stay as they are and they can't win a championship vs the Celtics or a team on par with the Celtics. A good GM would definitely not rely on the players they already have to improve, who knows what a player, his friends agent family and private coaches will decide they need to do? There will be some guys that do what the Mav coaches tell them to do in the offseason. Then there will be other guys that think they need to hit the step back three off the dribble to get a max contract, or dudes that just figure they're good enough and their money is guaranteed and don't work on anything at all.

I won't comment on your sources but Klay Thompson would be a good fit for Dallas, as many 3 and D players as possible to make up for Irving and Doncic on defense/play off of those two on offense.

Also strange how Porzingis didn't work there. Big that protects the basket at a high level and can hit threes. How does he not fit in well on any team?
Klay hasn’t been a 3 and D player for years. He’s at best a $20mil tank commander next season.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Klay hasn’t been a 3 and D player for years. He’s at best a $20mil tank commander next season.

His defense may have fallen off but he can still shoot.

[FKAri]

Roster seems fine. They just need someone in the starting lineup other than Ky and Luka who is a 3pt threat.

Also, the difference in movement between March Luka and playoffs Luka was night and day. Gotta get those knees right.

[hold this L]

They need Draymond Green, a 3rd player that can help them as an x-factor. Lively, PJ & 2025 FRP and we can call it deal. :)


His defense may have fallen off but he can still shoot.
He can shoot 3s, there's an important distinction. His TS% has been below league average since he's been back from his injuries for three straight seasons now.

[Neal Romer]

Went from missing the playoffs to getting to the finals beating the number 1 seed OKC and the number 1 defense Minnesota

If anything Dallas have overachieved this season and Kidd has done a fantastic job with this team, I don't think they need to do anything, stick with the same team and count on the likes of Green,Lively,PJ and Hardy improving over the off-season to get them over the hump

That being said I'm hearing from sources that Klay Thompson is seriously considering joining the Mavs or Lakers this off-season so look out for that

I think this is more or less correct.

Lively has potential to grow offensively. He randomly flashed a nice three point shot in game 4, the only one I can recall him taking all season. If he can develop that further over the summer the Mavs could potentially put Gafford and Lively on the floor together which would make them insane at rebounding, with Doncic also being very strong for his position, and give them double the lob threats, without losing any spacing. Of course it would depend on Lively really getting comfortable as an outside shooter, which I dont know if he'll be ready for that by next season, but it seems like the potential is there for it eventually.

Hardy and Green will continue to improve as bench offense options, I guess it doesnt hurt to add Klay if it's him or nothing altho I'm not sure how much Klay is really giving anyone at this point. Can't hurt to kick the tires tho I suppose.

I dont think the Mavs are any kind of lock to win the West again, but I think their chances are certainly reasonable. They didnt look like they match up very well with Boston in the Finals, altho I also think Dallas was a bit rattled in general by the stage and in Kyrie's case by Boston itself. That could change next year and if they met in a rematch it could be a much different series.

I dont think the Mavs HAVE to make any moves in order to contend for a title again next year. Which is good because I also dont see many options for them to do anything significant.

[Neal Romer]

Roster seems fine. They just need someone in the starting lineup other than Ky and Luka who is a 3pt threat.

Also, the difference in movement between March Luka and playoffs Luka was night and day. Gotta get those knees right.

Yup. He's been pretty durable overall in terms of actual games missed, I think because he's a solidly built dude in terms of bone, joint, tendon thickness (a la Lebron), and he doesnt really explode in ways that stress his body much. But as he gets older, playing as heavy as he has been is gonna take a toll on his feet, ankles, and knees. He's gotta get that weight down.

[tpols]

The Dallas Mavricks were the 11th ranked team projected to win the title tied with Cleveland.

https://i.postimg.cc/RCwtchVG/Screenshot-20240619-141022-Chrome.jpg

This is factual information. Boston was by far #1 in odds.

Dallas OVERACHIEVED majorly based on their projection.

There's nothing they can do more than try to do the best thing possible that they came within 98% of completing.

[gengiskhan]

They now have finals experience. What move should they make next season?

Luka is a solid 30 PPG threat in Finals.

Either add LBJ or Durant or Mitchell.

They need that 3rd SuperStar. for sure!.

The one that helps Luka win FMVP and be a 3rd Star like Love and Bosh.

do remember, Kyrie will be 33 YO in 2024 Finals and will be slower than this 2004 NBA Finals.

32 YO Kyrie's slowness also made Jaylen and Jrue look world's best defensive players.

Only adding Durant or LBJ or Mitchell will take them over that championship lifting huddle.

[Carbine]

Stay the same and grow together. And hope Kyrie performs when it matters.

Luka can play much better than he did in the finals too. His game obviously needs to expand to beat any type of defense/defender.

[NBAGOAT]

Better shooter at the 3. Derrick jones moves to bench. Looking for a guy who can score and defend and looking to trade hardaway maybe kleber. Other teams will want him but Jerami grant is an option

[Neal Romer]

I think this is more or less correct.

Lively has potential to grow offensively. He randomly flashed a nice three point shot in game 4, the only one I can recall him taking all season. If he can develop that further over the summer the Mavs could potentially put Gafford and Lively on the floor together which would make them insane at rebounding, with Doncic also being very strong for his position, and give them double the lob threats, without losing any spacing. Of course it would depend on Lively really getting comfortable as an outside shooter, which I dont know if he'll be ready for that by next season, but it seems like the potential is there for it eventually.

Hardy and Green will continue to improve as bench offense options, I guess it doesnt hurt to add Klay if it's him or nothing altho I'm not sure how much Klay is really giving anyone at this point. Can't hurt to kick the tires tho I suppose.

I dont think the Mavs are any kind of lock to win the West again, but I think their chances are certainly reasonable. They didnt look like they match up very well with Boston in the Finals, altho I also think Dallas was a bit rattled in general by the stage and in Kyrie's case by Boston itself. That could change next year and if they met in a rematch it could be a much different series.

I dont think the Mavs HAVE to make any moves in order to contend for a title again next year. Which is good because I also dont see many options for them to do anything significant.


Oh, and I forgot to mention here:

They NEED to draft Bronny.

[gengiskhan]

Luka is a solid 30 PPG threat in Finals.

Either add LBJ or Durant or Mitchell.

They need that 3rd SuperStar. for sure!.

The one that helps Luka win FMVP and be a 3rd Star like Love and Bosh.

do remember, Kyrie will be 33 YO in 2025 Finals and will be slower than this 2024 NBA Finals.

32 YO Kyrie's slowness also made Jaylen and Jrue look world's best defensive players.

Only adding Durant or LBJ or Mitchell will take them over that championship lifting huddle.

corrected.

[TheBranStan]

Kyrie probly regrets not rejoining LeBron :confusedshrug:

[beasted]

Dallas needs help with a 3-D-Passing wing. Batum would be a solid pickup even if long in the tooth.

They also need to dump the overpaid guys like Kleber and THJ even if it means sacrificing a 1st. They are dead weight that weren't on the floor when it mattered.

[gengiskhan]

Kyrie probly regrets not rejoining LeBron :confusedshrug:

If Kyrie joins LBJ + AD in LAL, its a disaster.

Kyrie is OLD. LBJ is a dinosaur. AD is cripple.

When 2016 CAVS won the championship. Kyrie was 23. LBJ was 31. Love was 27.

Kyrie + LBJ + AD aint winning jack shyte in LA.

[tpols]

There's really not much they can do besides play better. I mean they literally beat everybody except 1 team. If PJ Washington shoots like he did in the OKC or Wolves games and Jrue Holiday doesn't go nuts when hes not even known for shooting, we'd have a Game 6 tomorrow and likely a Game 7. You can stack your team all you want... a lot of times it just depends on if the ball goes in the basket or not.

[Neal Romer]

Dallas needs help with a 3-D-Passing wing. Batum would be a solid pickup even if long in the tooth.

They also need to dump the overpaid guys like Kleber and THJ even if it means sacrificing a 1st. They are dead weight that weren't on the floor when it mattered.

Kleber's 11M is nothing in the current cap. He's been better for them than what he showed after the injury. He's definitely worth keeping for depth at that salary.

His and THJ's value is probably quite low right now anyway, what are you even going to get in return that's any better? Youd have to take salary back, teams with cap space arent gonna spend it outright on those two. Whats anyone gonna give up for them? Sure if a deal comes along that makes you better, take it. But I dont think moving those guys is any kind of a necessity, it doesnt free up meaningful cap and youre not likely getting anything but a lateral return at best.

[Neal Romer]

There's really not much they can do besides play better. I mean they literally beat everybody except 1 team. If PJ Washington shoots like he did in the OKC or Wolves games and Jrue Holiday doesn't go nuts when hes not even known for shooting, we'd have a Game 6 tomorrow and likely a Game 7. You can stack your team all you want... a lot of times it just depends on if the ball goes in the basket or not.

This is all true and I agree with you but they still should sign Lebron to a minimum deal with a massive under the table compensation commitment.

[gengiskhan]

There's really not much they can do besides play better. I mean they literally beat everybody except 1 team. If PJ Washington shoots like he did in the OKC or Wolves games and Jrue Holiday doesn't go nuts when hes not even known for shooting, we'd have a Game 6 tomorrow and likely a Game 7. You can stack your team all you want... a lot of times it just depends on if the ball goes in the basket or not.

Dallas has 1 year window of Winning a championship......it is possible.

Kyrie at 33 YO. you have to add a solid 3rd Star until 2025 trade deadline.

If not PG like SuperStar atleast a Solid Scoring Star and Defensive stopper.

Luka can score 30 PPG easily. I say, Kyrie is one last finals due 23-25 PPG performance before mid-30s.

That 3rd Star will get them that Ring. Dallas already have lively + Gafford as Rim stoppers.

They can hold off Denver or OKC or Twolves one more year! thats about it.

Next time Luka gets to finals, he has to lift the trophy or else, his knee will make sure he never win one.

[90sgoat]

They need someone better than DJJ in the starting lineup. Caruso? Klay? Kuzma?

Lively hopefully improves and will start. Gafford as a backup probably does better.

I don't believe in Hardy or Green, so bundle them with THJ and get that better wing.

[coin24]

Some guys off the bench who can shoot..

[SATAN]

They should hire a therapist for the fat guy...

[90sgoat]

They should hire a therapist for the fat guy...

You need a therapist more than Luka.

[beasted]

Kleber's 11M is nothing in the current cap. He's been better for them than what he showed after the injury. He's definitely worth keeping for depth at that salary.

His and THJ's value is probably quite low right now anyway, what are you even going to get in return that's any better? Youd have to take salary back, teams with cap space arent gonna spend it outright on those two. Whats anyone gonna give up for them? Sure if a deal comes along that makes you better, take it. But I dont think moving those guys is any kind of a necessity, it doesnt free up meaningful cap and youre not likely getting anything but a lateral return at best.

Their salary combined is almost a max contract.

Even if Kleber was 100% healthy, he's seeing around 15 minutes a game in any playoff series. THJ was only seeing 13. Why not combine their salaries into one player giving you 30+ minutes who is a legit 3rd option?

Guys like Kuzma or Grant caliber makes sense even if you need to sacrifice a 1st or 2 (with adequate protections). Both example players are likely available for exactly what's being mentioned.

[Neal Romer]

Their salary combined is almost a max contract.

Even if Kleber was 100% healthy, he's seeing around 15 minutes a game in any playoff series. THJ was only seeing 13. Why not combine their salaries into one player giving you 30 minutes who is a legit 3rd-4th option?

Guys like Kuzma or Grant caliber makes sense even if you need to sacrifice a 1st or 2 (with adequate protections).

Sure, if you can GET one of them for what the Mavs have to offer. I think that's being optimistic but if it's possible then by all means. I'm just saying they dont have to move Kleber and THJ for the sake of making a lateral move. Grant Williams for example was moved because he was irritating everyone and hampering chemistry. The Mavs didnt expect PJ to become a key guy, the whole trade was about dumping Williams. They dont need to do that kind of thing with Maxi and Tim, who have been there a while and are part of the camaraderie the team has. Altho THJ may decide to request a trade if he's gonna remain out of the rotation going forward. But I dont think trading these guys is a NECESSITY, but yeah if there's a good opportunity I'm sure they would.

[SATAN]

You need a therapist more than Luka.

https://media.tenor.com/VJQWksQFZeEAAAAC/scarface-tony-montana.gif

[ShawkFactory]

There's really not much they can do besides play better. I mean they literally beat everybody except 1 team. If PJ Washington shoots like he did in the OKC or Wolves games and Jrue Holiday doesn't go nuts when hes not even known for shooting, we'd have a Game 6 tomorrow and likely a Game 7. You can stack your team all you want... a lot of times it just depends on if the ball goes in the basket or not.

I don’t necessarily disagree as a whole but you’re banking on a lot of ‘if’s’ coming true more often than not. Can you count on Washington to shoot like that for 4 playoff series? I’d argue that he isn’t that caliber of player. The ifs on the other end could then come out and you could say if he doesn’t go nuts against OKC then the don’t make it past them.

Jrue btw is a .380 career 3pt shooter. He’s been over .400 since joining the Bucks and shot 43% this year. I suppose he’s know for defense but he’s low key a very good shooter.

[90sgoat]

Their salary combined is almost a max contract.

Even if Kleber was 100% healthy, he's seeing around 15 minutes a game in any playoff series. THJ was only seeing 13. Why not combine their salaries into one player giving you 30+ minutes who is a legit 3rd option?

Guys like Kuzma or Grant caliber makes sense even if you need to sacrifice a 1st or 2 (with adequate protections). Both example players are likely available for exactly what's being mentioned.

Kleber and Powell are kind of culture guys, who have been with Luka since his rookie season.

Kleber is a smart player and good in certain matchups. I honestly wouldn't get rid of either. Good to have them around.

I think Mavs should try to get Dorian Finney-Smith to return as well and even Spencer Dinwiddie of the bench.

[Jasper]

Kyrie cant be counted on in the big moments.

Papa luka need a real sidekick.

This dumbass killed their chances at a title.

irving for two all stars brings 'em back to finals = 35%

other 65% - denver,oak,suns

[beasted]

Sure, if you can GET one of them for what the Mavs have to offer. I think that's being optimistic but if it's possible then by all means. I'm just saying they dont have to move Kleber and THJ for the sake of making a lateral move. Grant Williams for example was moved because he was irritating everyone and hampering chemistry. The Mavs didnt expect PJ to become a key guy, the whole trade was about dumping Williams. They dont need to do that kind of thing with Maxi and Tim, who have been there a while and are part of the camaraderie the team has. Altho THJ may decide to request a trade if he's gonna remain out of the rotation going forward. But I dont think trading these guys is a NECESSITY, but yeah if there's a good opportunity I'm sure they would.

Well, asking you, what do you think the Kuzma package from Dallas rumored at the deadline was for?

I'm pretty certain it will not take a lot to get guys like Kuzma or Grant. THJ is an expiring and Kleber is a decent vet that teams won't mind absorbing because he's not disruptive despite producing minimally.

I think the Mavs need to take a risk. Taking the Miami Heat approach thinking they will have similar results next season without making a significant move will lead to lackluster results with a "let's run it back" attitude.

[beasted]

Kleber and Powell are kind of culture guys, who have been with Luka since his rookie season.

Kleber is a smart player and good in certain matchups. I honestly wouldn't get rid of either. Good to have them around.

I think Mavs should try to get Dorian Finney-Smith to return as well and even Spencer Dinwiddie of the bench.

Loyalty to 10th-11th rotation bench guys will not win championships. This is not a bunch of young players that should need mentorship.