That time when Knicks Rose destroyed Jrue and AD

[PeroAntic]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAPeY5wA7dE



Jrue and AD are two of the best defenders in the NBA and they looked like children against a post injury Derrick:confusedshrug:

[SATAN]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y3SJgi34Ro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4i5ZJLQkjmY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFUoJLf0G7Q

[SATAN]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqcqr37IA7Y
:milton

[PeroAntic]

Not everything is about Lebron smh

[SouBeachTalents]

We're resorting to regular season games from 8 years ago? That shit's just sad :lol And indicative of how little Rose has achieved in the last 12 years.

[Carbine]

Jrue has put on a considerable about of m muscle while retaining his lateral quickness since these days. That's impressive.

[RRR3]

This is the equivalent to someone making a thread about a high scoring game from Reggie Jackson.

[j3lademaster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqcqr37IA7Y
:miltonThis is why they teach you not to take screens like that in high school :roll:

[PeroAntic]

This is the equivalent to someone making a thread about a high scoring game from Reggie Jackson.

Reggie Jackson was never an MVP and the favorite player of millions (including many active NBA players) for whom people said "he lost it". Rose never lost it, he was just injured too often. Its ok to admit your mistake.

[warriorfan]

lebron stans getting triggered about a post injury derrick rose thread


next level sensitive, these kids now adays

[RRR3]

Reggie Jackson was never an MVP and the favorite player of millions (including many active NBA players) for whom people said "he lost it". Rose never lost it, he was just injured too often. It’s ok to admit your mistake.
He’s never come close to the player he was before he tore his ACL and he’d tell you that himself. It’s very sad what happened to him but denying reality isn’t helping you.

[ShawkFactory]

I mean...he scored 20 points on 21 shots and the Knicks lost by 12.

I wouldn't really use the term "destroyed" here.

[SouBeachTalents]

I mean...he scored 20 points on 21 shots and the Knicks lost by 12.

I wouldn't really use the term "destroyed" here.
:roll:

[RRR3]

I mean...he scored 20 points on 21 shots and the Knicks lost by 12.

I wouldn't really use the term "destroyed" here.
Well he certainly destroyed the rim with his bricks

[PeroAntic]

He’s never come close to the player he was before he tore his ACL and he’d tell you that himself. It’s very sad what happened to him but denying reality isn’t helping you.

So what? 99 percent of other players didn't come close to the player he was after he tore his ACL. Thats the reality youre denying.

[PeroAntic]

I mean...he scored 20 points on 21 shots and the Knicks lost by 12.

I wouldn't really use the term "destroyed" here.

Probably didn't get any free throws like most other flopper stars do. Either way boxscore watching isn't good for you. The video says everything, still too big, too strong, too fast and too good for both Jrue and AD.

Shame 2016 was the last year of Melo being a great player. If Derrick runs the offense with four other guys defending, you win. If Melo stinks it up from midrange possession after possession and plays no D, while Rose is off the ball, you get beat. Nothing to do with how good Rose was at the time.

[RRR3]

So what? 99 percent of other players didn't come close to the player he was after he tore his ACL. Thats the reality youre denying.
If by 99% of players on earth sure. The NBA is the best of the best. 99% of NBA players though? lol. He’s been decent at best since the injuries. Not his fault but that’s reality.

[Real Men Wear Green]

It is impossible for a player to look bad if you ignore everything bad about their performance.

[RRR3]

Probably didn't get any free throws like most other flopper stars do. Either way boxscore watching isn't good for you. The video says everything, still too big, too strong, too fast and too good for both Jrue and AD.

Shame 2016 was the last year of Melo being a great player. If Derrick runs the offense with four other guys defending, you win. If Melo stinks it up from midrange possession after possession and plays no D, while Rose is off the ball, you get beat. Nothing to do with how good Rose was at the time.
If he was too good for them he would have scored efficiently.

[RRR3]

It is impossible for a player to look bad if you ignore everything bad about their performance.
He’s legitimately the only person on earth who thinks Rose has been anything special post acl tear.

[PeroAntic]

It is impossible for a player to look bad if you ignore everything bad about their performance.
There is literally nothing bad about Rose's performance except being injured too often. Best driving game in the league, elite midrange shooting, elite vision, solid defense for a pointguard and respectable 3pt shooting. And this is AFTER the ACL.

Thats not even the point. Getting past a player like Jrue so frequently and finishing on a player like AD like that in the same game is something a very select few can aspire to do.

[ShawkFactory]

Probably didn't get any free throws like most other flopper stars do. Either way boxscore watching isn't good for you. The video says everything, still too big, too strong, too fast and too good for both Jrue and AD.

Shame 2016 was the last year of Melo being a great player. If Derrick runs the offense with four other guys defending, you win. If Melo stinks it up from midrange possession after possession and plays no D, while Rose is off the ball, you get beat. Nothing to do with how good Rose was at the time.

I'm not usually a box score watcher. But forgive me as I wasn't able to find the tape of this random game against a bad and mediocre team in December 8 years ago.

But he objectively didn't destroy them. An inefficient 20 point outing in a convincing loss is not "destroying", regardless of what he looked like on a handful of made baskets during the game.

If had 37 points you'd have a point. If there was tape of him locking Jrue up as well...I'd listen.

Not this.

[PeroAntic]

If he was too good for them he would have scored efficiently.

See thats why you're a Lebron fan. Efficiency has nothing to do with how good you are. Deandre Jordan and Toody are twice as efficient as Rose, you probably think they are twice as good then.




He’s legitimately the only person on earth who thinks Rose has been anything special post acl tear.
Sure, thats why the entire league took a bow when he scored 50 in 2018.

[PeroAntic]

I'm not usually a box score watcher. But forgive me as I wasn't able to find the tape of this random game against a bad and mediocre team in December 8 years ago.

But he objectively didn't destroy them. An inefficient 20 point outing in a convincing loss is not "destroying", regardless of what he looked like on a handful of made baskets during the game.

If had 37 points you'd have a point. If there was tape of him locking Jrue up as well...I'd listen.

Not this.
You get 37 points as a small if you're a 3pt volume shooter and freethrow merchant. Rose isn't any of those, which is precisely why hes so great.

This isn't a handful of made baskets, it is consistently making the most difficult things in the game look easy as hell. Watch the bloody vid for crying out loud.

btw bad and mediocre team with Jrue and AD? Seriously??

[SouBeachTalents]

You get 37 points as a small if you're a 3pt volume shooter and freethrow merchant. Rose isn't any of those, which is precisely why hes so great.

This isn't a handful of made baskets, it is consistently making the most difficult things in the game look easy as hell. Watch the bloody vid for crying out loud.

btw bad and mediocre team with Jrue and AD? Seriously??
The Pelicans won 34 games that season.

[PeroAntic]

The Pelicans won 34 games that season.

AD and Jrue missed half the season IIRC. How are you even able to see everything in such a narrow way.

[ShawkFactory]

The Knicks and Pelicans won 31 and 34 games respectively that year. So yea..they were both bad.

Honestly, I thought that this was going to be the 50-point game when I saw the thread title. I'd forgotten that it was with Minnesota :lol

[SouBeachTalents]

AD and Jrue missed half the season IIRC. How are you even able to see everything in such a narrow way.
AD played 75 games, Jrue played 67, so no, not even close to half the season :lol

[PeroAntic]

AD played 75 games, Jrue played 67, so no, not even close to half the season :lol

Right, it was the season before that. Well then I guess AD and Jrue suck, just like Derrick Rose. :D

[RRR3]

There is literally nothing bad about Rose's performance except being injured too often. Best driving game in the league, elite midrange shooting, elite vision, solid defense for a pointguard and respectable 3pt shooting. And this is AFTER the ACL.

Thats not even the point. Getting past a player like Jrue so frequently and finishing on a player like AD like that in the same game is something a very select few can aspire to do.
Best driving game in the league yet he can’t get off the bench :oldlol:

[RRR3]

See thats why you're a Lebron fan. Efficiency has nothing to do with how good you are. Deandre Jordan and Toody are twice as efficient as Rose, you probably think they are twice as good then.




Sure, thats why the entire league took a bow when he scored 50 in 2018.
Comparing LeBron to Toody is disingenuous because LeBron creates his own shots. All the best players in the league are at least average efficiency wise, Rose is terrible there. The guy struggled to get playing time on the G league Grizzlies. Him scoring 50 was such a big deal because he’s washed up and it was a nice reminder of what could have been. If he was any good he would threaten to repeat it.

[fsvr54]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAPeY5wA7dE



Jrue and AD are two of the best defenders in the NBA and they looked like children against a post injury Derrick:confusedshrug:

It's one game? A thousand scrubs have gone off against good defenders in the NBA.

[Axe]

I can definitely see how his lone mvp season could be considered special amongst those who are rather niche. But once you take a look at his accolades since he began his career, you also have to consider the big fact that he's never been an all-star for more than a decade ago.

[PeroAntic]

I can definitely see how his lone mvp season could be considered special amongst those who are rather niche. But once you take a look at his accolades since he began his career, you also have to consider the big fact that he's never been an all-star for more than a decade ago.
Accolades are heuristics for ignorant people. Hes not been an allstar because he was injured and while he was injured the level of talent increased along with the game changing to three point gunning. Which is what the allstar game turned to.

[Axe]

Well, yes. And that's the reality the others have been saying about him. He isn't as relevant as he was before anymore because injuries have ruined what could have been a better career for him, at least in terms of being great and prominent for a longer period in the league. Instead, as time passes by people would only see that his longevity leaves much to be desired and that a lot of younger stars have been more successful than him somehow.

[PeroAntic]

No, others say he became a bad player, which is simply not true.

[Axe]

'Ruined' would be more accurate. But people are just going to have that kind of sentiment if you keep on continuing to prop him up over many stars these days. :oldlol:

[RRR3]

No, others say he became a bad player, which is simply not true.
He did become a bad player for a while until he himself admitted he decided to get more focused and work harder. Then he was a solid backup guard for a few years, and now he's old. But even at his best post 2012, he was basically prime Ramon Sessions or Jeremy Lin. Which is nice to have for sure, but not really worthy of adulation like you're giving him. Terrific player in 2011 and 2012 tho.

[PeroAntic]

He did become a bad player for a while until he himself admitted he decided to get more focused and work harder. Then he was a solid backup guard for a few years, and now he's old. But even at his best post 2012, he was basically prime Ramon Sessions or Jeremy Lin. Which is nice to have for sure, but not really worthy of adulation like you're giving him. Terrific player in 2011 and 2012 tho.

Love how stubbornly you stick to this mindnumbingly absurd idea of a player being terrific, then becoming bad, then becoming good again "because he worked hard" when in reality Rose was ALWAYS a hard worker and he just missed a lot of time due to injuries. Comparing Rose to Ramon Sessions should disqualify you from every basketball discussion for the rest of your life lol

[SATAN]

Sure, thats why the entire league took a bow when he scored 50 in 2018.

It was a feel good moment. I remember watching it live. Seeing him cry and just knowing it's over. He gave it one last hurrah while pretending he's capable of getting back to his prime. Completely delusional. I wanted him to be good again too. Poor guy fell off due to injuries but seemed like an ok dude and great player at his peak. :(

Went off for 50 then went back to being a shell of himself. Sad. :(

[PeroAntic]

It was a feel good moment. I remember watching it live. Seeing him cry and just knowing it's over. He gave it one last hurrah while pretending he's capable of getting back to his prime. Completely delusional. I wanted him to be good again too. Poor guy fell off due to injuries but seemed like an ok dude and great player at his peak. :(

Went off for 50 then went back to being a shell of himself. Sad. :(
In 2020-21, Knicks were 11-14 before trading for Rose and 24-11 after. He was third in 6th MOTY voting and led them in scoring in the playoffs.

I know the bar for Bran stans is low but its impressive how you manage to push it further down so consistently.

"Feel good moment" lol he torched the best rim protector in the league in every possible way. He cried because it was redemption, not because its over you dumb f*ck.

[SATAN]

lol@dropping 50 then being a designated bench warmer. "redemption" :roll: