View Full Version : Why Lebron's field goal percentage is a bit misleading
Walk on Water
06-25-2024, 06:17 AM
Most of Lebron's points have come in the paint. Now it might occur to you that it doesn't matter where those points come from. But then you'd have to concede that Shaq or even DeAndre Jordan had the higher field goal percentages. And of course, you'd laugh and say because they were just dunking. Well, exactly.
Lebron never shot a really great percentage from mid range. This year, he finally shot a pretty good percentage from 3. But as a whole, Lebron has never shot that great outside of his dunks and lay ups. But then he clogged the paint more and made it harder for his bigs to excel. Kind of turned them into spot up shooters.
Lebron's stats are impressive for him, but at the expense of his other teammates. And by the way, Lebron NEVER had the stats and percentages of JOKIC... Or the rebounds. Try to defend that.
nayte
06-25-2024, 06:28 AM
Where's the proof that LeBron has never had the stats or percentages of jokic or the rebounds
HoopsNY
06-25-2024, 08:10 AM
Where's the proof that LeBron has never had the stats or percentages of jokic or the rebounds
Jokic 2021-24: 26/12/9/1/1 on 59/36/83 splits
LeBron 2011-14: 27/8/7/2/1 on 54/37/76 splits
This is before the offensive explosion that we've seen from 2016 onward. If peak LeBron is playing now, he'd have the same or better numbers than Jokic. In 2013 and 2014, LeBron's FG% was 57%. That's insane relative to the time period.
nayte
06-25-2024, 08:24 AM
Dude I was just playing on his words.
But well you have pulled up some stats.
j3lademaster
06-25-2024, 08:46 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/vg3Nkx0D/IMG-0451.jpg (https://postimg.cc/vg3Nkx0D)Lebron’s the only player to have a 75% at rim percentage and shoot 40% from 3 at the same time… and he did it twice.
3ba11
06-25-2024, 09:18 AM
Good thread - Lebron's concentration of shots at the rim (ball-dominant drives) hinders ball movement compared to a more balanced attack of elite jumpshooting and elite rim attack - this is why MJ and Kobe were so far superior to Lebron - the superior diversity of their scoring allowed a superior capacity for ball movement, brand of ball and chemistry/fits.
8Ball
06-25-2024, 09:49 AM
Most of Lebron's points have come in the paint. Now it might occur to you that it doesn't matter where those points come from. But then you'd have to concede that Shaq or even DeAndre Jordan had the higher field goal percentages. And of course, you'd laugh and say because they were just dunking. Well, exactly.
Lebron never shot a really great percentage from mid range. This year, he finally shot a pretty good percentage from 3. But as a whole, Lebron has never shot that great outside of his dunks and lay ups. But then he clogged the paint more and made it harder for his bigs to excel. Kind of turned them into spot up shooters.
Lebron's stats are impressive for him, but at the expense of his other teammates. And by the way, Lebron NEVER had the stats and percentages of JOKIC... Or the rebounds. Try to defend that.
Jordan had worst stats than LeBron.
Try to defend that.
sdot_thadon
06-25-2024, 12:06 PM
How can his fg % be misleading when splits are readily available in every which way? I'd say his fg% is the least misleading ever for a face of the league.
warriorfan
06-25-2024, 12:53 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/vg3Nkx0D/IMG-0451.jpg (https://postimg.cc/vg3Nkx0D)Lebron’s the only player to have a 75% at rim percentage and shoot 40% from 3 at the same time… and he did it twice.
tbh all that does is highlight how shitty his midrange game is
with that stat and him getting to the line a lot it should mean he has record breaking efficiency TS% wise
which he doesn’t
3ba11
06-25-2024, 01:49 PM
Jordan had worst stats than LeBron.
Try to defend that.
Even if you discount PER or win shares because you fall for the Haberstroh fraud regarding "stocks", we can still look at the offensive side of BPM - offensive BPM (OBPM) - the top 3 all-time in this category are MJ (8.80), Jokic (8.18) and Lebron (7.50).. So MJ is still GOAT by a wide margin.
And here's the latest insight into the fraud:
If Haberstroh sees a deflection that might've been Jordan's, he doesn't know if Jordan is credited with the steal or not.. The announcer usually doesn't announce that.. That's why Haberstroh needed to count all the live ball turnovers in the game himself, and then claim that Jordan's reported steals were more than the total live-ball turnovers - that's the only way to know that some of Jordan's steals were fraudulent.. Accordingly, all Haberstroh has to do is under-count the total live-ball turnovers as he's watching the game - just skip one or two here and there - and then Jordan's total steals will be more than the live-ball turnovers, so Haberstroh can claim Jordan's steals are overstated... And no one can verify Haberstroh's count of the live-ball turnovers because he got the VHS from a guy in Latvia and none of the games are on youtube.. literally
There... that's the whole fraud and everything was true in my previous post that explained how the "normal" home inflation of prior eras was due to tougher road conditions, while the one-off, massive inflation of 88' MJ, 90' Hakeem and 86' Robertson is explained by any number of factors such as personal issues that affected home and road performance in that particular year.
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