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3ba11
06-25-2024, 02:02 PM
If Haberstroh sees a deflection that might've been Jordan's, he doesn't know if Jordan is credited with the steal or not.. The announcer usually doesn't announce that.. That's why Haberstroh needed to count all the live ball turnovers in the game himself, and then claim that Jordan's reported steals were more than the live-ball turnovers - that's the only way to know that some of Jordan's steals were fraudulent without any subjectivity.

Accordingly, all Haberstroh has to do is under-count the total live-ball turnovers as he's watching the game - just skip one or two here and there - and then Jordan's steals will be more than the live-ball turnovers, so Haberstroh can claim Jordan's steals are overstated... And no one can verify Haberstroh's count of the live-ball turnovers because he got the VHS from a guy in Latvia and none of the games are on youtube.. literally.

That's the whole fraud and everything was true in my recent posts that explained how the "normal" home inflation for players in prior eras was due to tougher road conditions and MUCh worse road records, while the one-offs of massive inflation for 88' MJ, 90' Hakeem and 86' Robertson is explained by any number of factors such as personal issues that affected home and road performance in that particular year.

Here's a great video that details some aspects of the fraud and how Haberstroh obtained tape for the 6 games that aren't on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke-YXeBXFjw

8Ball
06-25-2024, 03:21 PM
Jordan legacy destroyer


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_484dkdhojY/hqdefault.jpg

3ba11
06-25-2024, 03:41 PM
Jordan legacy destroyer


https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_484dkdhojY/hqdefault.jpg


The media acts like Haberstroh found BUCKETS that never happened.

But no

He's nitpicked subjective steals and feels his eye is better than the original record-keepers... and the season should be changed based on 5 games.

only the uneducated should fall for this since they probably don't know what sample size means, or what subjective means

8Ball
06-25-2024, 03:43 PM
180% difference between home and away games.

Most ever in history.

SouBeachTalents
06-25-2024, 03:56 PM
180% difference between home and away games.

Most ever in history.
That's crazy :eek:

What a fraud.

RRR3
06-25-2024, 03:56 PM
You legitimately should see a therapist. I’m not trolling I think it could help you. You’re clearly unhappy and need help.

8Ball
06-25-2024, 03:59 PM
Only Haberstroh has access to those Bulls 1988 games!


As if those 1988 games are lost forever like the city of Atlantis :lol

NBA has them.
The broadcast studio that did the games and has the rights to them still has them.
The bulls video room has them.
Plenty of people around the world have them.

3ba11
06-25-2024, 05:35 PM
80% difference between home and away games.

Most ever in history.


Someone has to be #1 because MANY guys had massive inflation like 90' Hakeem, 86' Robertson and 88' MJ but these cases of massive inflation were one-offs - they occur today too like AD having 55% higher steals in 2022.. Who knows why the one-offs happen because it could be personal stuff that affects home/road performance for that particular season.

Aside from the one-offs, the "normal" home inflation that everyone experienced in previous eras was due to vastly inferior road records compared to today's teams, due to tougher road conditions (no days off, flying coach, etc - no modern amenities... and you couldn't toss out fans).

Btw, Jordan actually achieved the same steals/blocks in 87' without home inflation, which further destroys the narrative that bookkeepers were padding his stats.. Again, the only year of massive inflation was 88' and many DPOY's had one-offs like this for any number of reasons... Otherwise, the "normal" inflation of other years was due to bad road records back then (tougher road conditions).