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Kblaze8855
06-26-2024, 02:31 PM
So says Windhorst.

How seriously are you taking that?

warriorfan
06-26-2024, 03:18 PM
I could see their justification.

They could try to sell Curry right now and do a full rebuild but I don’t think there’s anyone who really wants to do that.

Everyone wants to see Curry finish his career with Golden State. At the same time they don’t want to fully waste his last years while they rebuild and develop young guys.

Being realistic given their current personnel, cap space, and trade assets, there isn’t really a chance to create another powerhouse contender.

Right now chances are the Warriors are going to do their best to build a team that is at least somewhat competitive, even if they aren’t going to be a true championship caliber team.

NBAGOAT
06-26-2024, 03:20 PM
Very seriously. Have to give Steph a chance the next few years and you have to go for big moves to compete with Boston. Making a minor upgrade is drawing dead. George has big downside at his age but upside is you get a top 3 sidekick for your superstar for at least 2 years

Real Men Wear Green
06-26-2024, 03:22 PM
We need to know who they give up. I don't see then winning the West even if they just added George at no cost but depending on the deal it could be anywhere between play-in team and 4th seed.

Kblaze8855
06-26-2024, 03:38 PM
Probably unrelated(Woj or shams would know already right?) but


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Neal Romer
06-26-2024, 03:45 PM
PG is a good guy in general and Id be happy to see him succeed, but my impression is that basketball isnt really a huge deal to him any longer. I dont think hes that hungry to keep competing for titles.

Giving him a max at this point, I just... dont get the thinking. He's not changing your team's fortunes as a max player. Whats he giving you that Donte DiVincenzo isnt giving you for 10M a year right now? Or Mikal Bridges for 22M?

Youre gonna give Paul George 50 million dollars at this stage?

It clearly sends a message this league isnt about really competing. It's about selling names to celeb-thirsty fans. Thats where the real money is I guess.

We all have a few synapses in our brain still wired to remember PG as a T-Mac esque prospect on the come up. Theres still a subconscious part of our brains that sees him as a high upside, potential superstar guy. Even tho hes just not anymore, nor does he even much pretend to be. Hes on the downslope. But theres still that gambler in the minds of fans and execs that wants to roll the dice even when you know the odds are with the house. Maybe this time it'll get us over the hump!

Enjoy another 250 million dollar deal Paul :applause:

gengiskhan
06-26-2024, 03:53 PM
GSW need defense!

PG could give them that peri D.

Curry aging. Draymond eff'ed up mentally.

not sure how far GSW will go against DEN, DAL, OKC and MIN

theman93
06-26-2024, 05:18 PM
Let's see what they give up, but I like it on the surface for GS. Give Steph one last run at it. PG is a major upgrade over Klay.

jayfan
06-26-2024, 05:52 PM
Very seriously. Have to give Steph a chance the next few years and you have to go for big moves to compete with Boston. Making a minor upgrade is drawing dead. George has big downside at his age but upside is you get a top 3 sidekick for your superstar for at least 2 years


Top 3 sidekick for what? Losing?


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NBAGOAT
06-26-2024, 06:03 PM
Top 3 sidekick for what? Losing?


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name 5 better then.

Real Men Wear Green
06-26-2024, 06:12 PM
name 5 better then.

If we're just talking playoff offense I would rather have Irving, Murray, Maxey, Lillaird and AD.

Neal Romer
06-26-2024, 06:22 PM
name 5 better then.

Over the next four years?

Maxey
Siakam
Chet
Booker
Ingraham
Fox
Murray
Trae, Lauri (if they go play #2 somewhere)
All the Celtics starters
All the Knicks starters
Bronny
Cooper Flagg
Caitlin Clark
Seventh Woods
LeBryan Nash
Jason McElwain
Air Bud

NBAGOAT
06-26-2024, 06:22 PM
If we're just talking playoff offense I would rather have Irving, Murray, Maxey, Lillaird and AD.

when i say best 2nd option i mean just as 2nd guy on team so defense included. Murray and maxey arent good enough offensively to make up for their defense and dame had a down year and murray just had a bad playoffs. Sure you should add jaylen and booker to the list but I dont think there's anyone else. Towns is too inconsistent without georges defense bams not good enough offensively dont think I missed anyone else. Definitely can argue him for top 5.

NBAGOAT
06-26-2024, 06:23 PM
Over the next four years?

Maxey
Siakam
Chet
All the Celtics starters
All the Knicks starters
Bronny
Cooper Flagg
Seventh Woods
LeBryan Nash
Jason McElwain

well this is just trolling and I'm looking at mainly next 2 years

ArbitraryWater
06-26-2024, 06:25 PM
If we're just talking playoff offense I would rather have Irving, Murray, Maxey, Lillaird and AD.

Why would we just be talking that lol

StrongLurk
06-26-2024, 06:31 PM
Paul George is overrated and has been his whole career.

I guess the Warriors should do it if they have no other options. They need to throw everything they can to make Curry's next 2-3 years potentially worth something.

To note, here are PG's playoff stats since 2018.

17.4 PER, 56.2 TS%, .90 WS/48, 1.8 BPM - These are fringe all star stats. He's never been a real superstar or top 10 player.

Real Men Wear Green
06-26-2024, 06:45 PM
when i say best 2nd option i mean just as 2nd guy on team so defense included. Murray and maxey arent good enough offensively to make up for their defense and dame had a down year and murray just had a bad playoffs. Sure you should add jaylen and booker to the list but I dont think there's anyone else. Towns is too inconsistent without georges defense bams not good enough offensively dont think I missed anyone else. Definitely can argue him for top 5.

1: The term "second option" refers to where a guy ranks in the offensive hierarchy. Whether you think he's the Timberwolves second or third best player you would not refer to Rudy Gobert as second or third option.

2: The Celtics don't have anyone I would label a sidekick.

tontoz
06-26-2024, 07:01 PM
I guess it would be CP3 + Wiggins + picks for PG13. They are obviously letting Klay walk.


They are doing everything they can to stay competitive with Steph but betting on PG13 is definitely high risk.

NBAGOAT
06-26-2024, 07:02 PM
1: The term "second option" refers to where a guy ranks in the offensive hierarchy. Whether you think he's the Timberwolves second or third best player you would not refer to Rudy Gobert as second or third option.

2: The Celtics don't have anyone I would label a sidekick.

Alright I mean 2nd guy really then. Gobert was arguably the lead guy on Utah even if he was like the 4th scorer.

The sidekick definition also helps my side so we can’t count jaylen or Booker them

gengiskhan
06-26-2024, 07:03 PM
I guess it would be CP3 + Wiggins + picks for PG13. They are obviously letting Klay walk.


They are doing everything they can to stay competitive with Steph but betting on PG13 is definitely high risk.

Isnt steph is like 37.

He aint winning jack shyte anymore with or without Klay

You can add LBJ to Steph, he aint winning another ring.

Draymond, the overrated garbage, sabotaged 2016.

or else, Steph would've matched Duncan and Kobe with 5 rings.

tontoz
06-26-2024, 07:09 PM
Isnt steph is like 37.

He aint winning jack shyte anymore with or without Klay

You can add LBJ to Steph, he aint winning another ring.

Draymond, the overrated garbage, sabotaged 2016.

or else, Steph would've matched Duncan and Kobe with 5 rings.


You are probably right. I've been expecting Steph's game to fall off and it happened this season. His movement off ball is a lot harder at his age.

But management feels indebted to Steph and this is a big swing.

HylianNightmare
06-26-2024, 07:18 PM
Would love to see but him ND curry both old

coin24
06-26-2024, 08:42 PM
Can’t believe anyone apart from the dumb ass Sixers would want wayoff p:lol

Career loser

90sgoat
06-26-2024, 08:55 PM
I don't think this makes GSW contenders any more than he made Clips contenders.

He'd make Mavs contenders as the third guy. He'd be great for Mavs.

GSW problem is that Klay and Dray are just not that good anymore and Curry has always been more of a frontrunner, dagger-matador player.

He'll help them for sure, but who are they trading?

Patrick Chewing
06-26-2024, 09:15 PM
Old ass team if that happens. Not too many people realize Steph is 36 years old.

sdot_thadon
06-26-2024, 09:19 PM
PG needs to play somewhere he's the 2nd option and not have a 3rd option that is close to his level of star power crazy as it sounds. His impact feels diminished in 3 star setups. Needs some room for his game to breathe.

90sgoat
06-26-2024, 09:31 PM
PG needs to play somewhere he's the 2nd option and not have a 3rd option that is close to his level of star power crazy as it sounds. His impact feels diminished in 3 star setups. Needs some room for his game to breathe.

Maybe they trade Klay.

That would make sense.

tontoz
06-26-2024, 10:22 PM
Maybe they trade Klay.

That would make sense.


They really can't cap wise. He's going to walk for nothing. They can't afford to take back any salary in a Klay trade

90sgoat
06-26-2024, 10:25 PM
They really can't cap wise. He's going to walk for nothing. They can't afford to take back any salary in a Klay trade

Interesting.

Is that assuming a max contract?

Who is paying Klay a max contract?

Sign and trade for Tim Hardaway Jr. and Hardy. I'm ready.

tontoz
06-26-2024, 10:37 PM
Interesting.

Is that assuming a max contract?

Who is paying Klay a max contract?

Sign and trade for Tim Hardaway Jr. and Hardy. I'm ready.


No it's assuming any contract. He is going to walk for nothing if this PG13 trade goes through. He will probably walk even if they don't make this deal. Their cap situation sucks

ILLsmak
06-27-2024, 06:29 AM
Paul George is overrated and has been his whole career.

I guess the Warriors should do it if they have no other options. They need to throw everything they can to make Curry's next 2-3 years potentially worth something.

To note, here are PG's playoff stats since 2018.

17.4 PER, 56.2 TS%, .90 WS/48, 1.8 BPM - These are fringe all star stats. He's never been a real superstar or top 10 player.

Maybe not, but I liked him kinda in Indy. He just didn't really blossom. He'd be a great 2nd guy. He had an ideal situation in Indy, even though they weren't gonna win a ring. His stats weren't amazing, but he seemed to ball out. He seems like the kind of guy who gets you 22-25 ppg and anything beyond that is stretching it and suboptimal. That was when he was in Indy.

He played on OKC with WB haha. He and Kawhi are like the same kinda player. Like a worse Tatum and Brown combo. Two wings is just bg in almost all cases. Unless one is MJ or Bran.

Dray + Klay for PG = good deal. Dump the bummies and see if PG can help Curry get there. I dunno who else on the clips they'd want tho.

-Smak

ArbitraryWater
06-27-2024, 06:37 AM
Paul George is overrated and has been his whole career.

I guess the Warriors should do it if they have no other options. They need to throw everything they can to make Curry's next 2-3 years potentially worth something.

To note, here are PG's playoff stats since 2018.

17.4 PER, 56.2 TS%, .90 WS/48, 1.8 BPM - These are fringe all star stats. He's never been a real superstar or top 10 player.

Okay, but PG has matured a lot since 2018, so whats the point?

In the last 2 years hes doing 25/9/5 on 51% eFG, 57% TS, 19 PER, 2.6 BPM

hold this L
06-27-2024, 10:34 AM
I don't think there's a bigger group of retards in GM roles than the NBA. No other sport would guys in their mid 30s get not only absurdly long contracts but also max money for them. Paul George, the 34 year old dude has played 2 out of 3 games in the last 5 years for the Clippers. He's an injury-prone guy that is often missing games and already past his prime. How does anyone imagine this guy will look in 2-3 years?

hold this L
06-27-2024, 10:34 AM
Paul George is overrated and has been his whole career.

I guess the Warriors should do it if they have no other options. They need to throw everything they can to make Curry's next 2-3 years potentially worth something.

To note, here are PG's playoff stats since 2018.

17.4 PER, 56.2 TS%, .90 WS/48, 1.8 BPM - These are fringe all star stats. He's never been a real superstar or top 10 player.

He was a top 10 player before his injury with Indiana but yeah, he's grossly overrated.

tpols
06-27-2024, 10:50 AM
Okay, but PG has matured a lot since 2018, so whats the point?

In the last 2 years hes doing 25/9/5 on 51% eFG, 57% TS, 19 PER, 2.6 BPM

Assuming no massive fall off, Paul George would be producing better than Klay or Dray ever did with those numbers. And he's an elite defender so it's not like he's giving up what he puts out. Basically a super Wiggins he is. I hope the warriors get him.

gengiskhan
06-27-2024, 11:35 AM
Holy.....

PG gonna be 35.....

I always thought he was 30 or 31....

this guy is done and dusted. GSW need to stop building senior citizens lineup. chef 37, pg 35....

At some point, Kerr should know better. 1998 Bulls were MJ 35, Dennis 37, Ron 34, Pip 33 and how bad that season got!.

Curry's DYNASTIC GSW never ever winning 5th ring ever!.........Is over for them

Curry should've kept Draymond's mouth and fist in check at some point. He gifted 2016 ring to cavs and ran to Klutch media.

Draymond is the snake GSW cuddled, pampered and in the end it poisoned them (Durant feud). with that went the elusive 5th title.

hold this L
06-27-2024, 02:44 PM
Holy.....

PG gonna be 35.....

I always thought he was 30 or 31....

this guy is done and dusted. GSW need to stop building senior citizens lineup. chef 37, pg 35....

At some point, Kerr should know better. 1998 Bulls were MJ 35, Dennis 37, Ron 34, Pip 33 and how bad that season got!.

Curry's DYNASTIC GSW never ever winning 5th ring ever!.........Is over for them

Curry should've kept Draymond's mouth and fist in check at some point. He gifted 2016 ring to cavs and ran to Klutch media.

Draymond is the snake GSW cuddled, pampered and in the end it poisoned them (Durant feud). with that went the elusive 5th title.

Kerr is the most braindead out of anyone there. He's the one that had four guys averagnig 36 years old be the top 5 in minutes per game. :facepalm

Neal Romer
06-27-2024, 02:49 PM
Kerr is the most braindead out of anyone there. He's the one that had four guys averagnig 36 years old be the top 5 in minutes per game. :facepalm


They barely squaked into the last play-in spot.

Not much margin for error to rest the big guns if your stated goal is still to "win now."

hold this L
06-28-2024, 01:21 AM
They barely squaked into the last play-in spot.

Not much margin for error to rest the big guns if your stated goal is still to "win now."
That statement makes sense if those old guys are actually the best players on the team. Klay sucks and has sucked for awhile, he only played because of emotional ties. CP3 is elite but very old and injury prone. Should have played 15MPG.

Warriors were one of the worst teams in the league in the 4th quarter last season. Not because of low margin of error, but because they were getting outran, beaten by speed, athleticism and energy. Something that players lack when they're old.

Axe
06-28-2024, 02:51 AM
Kerr is the most braindead out of anyone there. He's the one that had four guys averagnig 36 years old be the top 5 in minutes per game. :facepalm
He hasn't developed or played more the younger guys in the squad?

nayte
06-28-2024, 05:54 AM
He hasn't developed or played more the younger guys in the squad?

Didn't it take the GM to watch a after game interview to get kuminga more playing time?

Charlie Sheen
06-28-2024, 10:35 AM
name 5 better then.

There might not be... for the Warriors. PG is not going to keep podz and moody off the floor because he can play in any lineup.

beasted
06-28-2024, 01:34 PM
Sorry to tell you guys, but once slightly above average starters like Anunoby gets $43M a season, it means that PG is going to get a full max from someone.