Klay chose to take 50m/3 years with Luka over 80m/4 years to play with Lebron.

[RachlNicholsazz]

The disrespect is real.

And Luka didn't even have to put in a call :facepalm

C'mon man..c'mon mang!

[RRR3]

little ken ken with another meltdown

[Carbine]

Big state income tax in LA vs no tax in Dallas.

[tresbigdog]

Big state income tax in LA vs no tax in Dallas.

exactly, the 76ers and Clippers were also trying to get Klay. It wasn't just the Lakers, and it wasn't a slap in the face to LeBron. Money talks, he will make just about the same as what the Lakers offer was for. And of course, the Mavs are better primed to make a Finals run than the Lakers, that's not a secret. But for people to think he just doesn't want to play with LeBron is insane.

[warriorfan]

exactly, the 76ers and Clippers were also trying to get Klay. It wasn't just the Lakers, and it wasn't a slap in the face to LeBron. Money talks, he will make just about the same as what the Lakers offer was for. And of course, the Mavs are better primed to make a Finals run than the Lakers, that's not a secret. But for people to think he just doesn't want to play with LeBron is insane.

mavs can contend for a title

lebron’s lakers can’t

it’s just that simple

[rawimpact]

Big state income tax in LA vs no tax in Dallas.


Oh yeah thats exactly why he left CA...

Truth is Lebron and the lakers are not going anywhere. They showed that when they drafted his silver spoon fed kid over more deserving athletes.

[Wardell Curry]

mavs can contend for a title

lebron’s lakers can’t

it’s just that simple

Not anymore they can't.

[warriorfan]

Not anymore they can't.

:lol

[bluechox2]

Why he wanna backup lil bronny for… and babysit… he got a starting role in Dallas

[Hey Yo]

Why he wanna backup lil bronny for… and babysit… he got a starting role in Dallas

Luka, Kyrie and Klay.... that's a strong defensive trio right there.

[ILLsmak]

Luka, Kyrie and Klay.... that's a strong defensive trio right there.

Bron is old, but Dallas' weakness wasn't their back court or wings. They needed bigs to compete with Minny (they will lose to Minny from now on, imo,) Denver, and Bos. If you play Klay/Luka at SF (assuming?) they become even smaller than they were last year.

I dunno which team is more of a contender with Klay. As much as Boston had an easy path, Dallas had a weird path, too. I like how Kyrie balls, but having all of your talent in your back court is not a recipe for winning.

Watch. I wish GSW would dump Dray, too. He deserves to get kicked as much as Klay. I think klay is gonna have a good year, regardless, but I bet they ain't winning nuthin.

-Smak

[ILLsmak]

Big state income tax in LA vs no tax in Dallas.

that shit is real, too. I lived in TX. It's funny how that shit matters so much. And when you're making millions and millions and millions it's a no brainer. Taxes in general are better in TX. Maybe not in DAL tho.

TX is awesome. It's like it's own country. I hope everyone gets to spend some real time in Texas. Realize that all the stuff about it being a hillbilly state is BS, and it's one of the most diverse places. It's got some issues like brownouts (their power grid was shit even where I stayed,) but the weather + resources + wildlife was once in a lifetime. If you see all the wild life in texas, you have seen just about everything in the US except for things that only go to the very north.

Isn't Klay from Cali tho? hmm. He prol knows.

-Smak

[sdot_thadon]

I'd imagine it was a team that just made the finals vs a team that just lost in the 1st round, has a rookie coach and much older best player. Way more uncertain on paper. And maybe he just doesn't want to be a teammate of Lebrons maybe he wants to beat him still, can't be mad at that tbfh.

[90sgoat]

If you play Klay/Luka at SF (assuming?) they become even smaller than they were last year.


They played DJJ at SF last season who is listed at 6'5'' and Klay is listed at 6'6''.

PJ and Maxi will be the PF rotation.

Lively will start this season and that leaves Gafford to play against lesser competition and do better.

I'd like Mavs to go out and try to get another rebounder at power forward though.

[90sgoat]

I'd imagine it was a team that just made the finals vs a team that just lost in the 1st round, has a rookie coach and much older best player. Way more uncertain on paper. And maybe he just doesn't want to be a teammate of Lebrons maybe he wants to beat him still, can't be mad at that tbfh.

Maybe Klay just doesn't like Lebron all that much.

[Hey Yo]

"Thompson was however, interested in the Lakers and gave the team consideration. Ultimately, there were two key factors that heavily contributed to Thompson choosing the Lakers. For one, Thompson recognized that he could save more money by playing in Texas instead of California. Texas does not have income tax. Also, Thompson still wants to contend for a title and the Mavericks are coming off an NBA Finals run, finishing the year as the runner-ups, via ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

[RachlNicholsazz]

For one, Thompson recognized that he could save more money by playing in Texas instead of California. Texas does not have income tax. Also, Thompson still wants to contend for a title and the Mavericks are coming off an NBA Finals run, finishing the year as the runner-ups, via ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

People need to stop sprouting excuses for Lebron. Highest California tax bracket is 12.3%. Dude gave up 17% in income, a whole extra year of guaranteed contract, plus he already owns a home in The OC. He has to make all new living arrangements in Dallas. This clearly wasn't about "saving money" :facepalm

[1987_Lakers]

Lakers dodged a bullet. That's way too much for a washed up Klay.

[Wardell Curry]

Lakers dodged a bullet. That's way too much for a washed up Klay.

I look forward to LeBron owning a team so he can run a franchise into the ground just like MJ did.

The fact that people now have decades upon decades of data/examples and yet they STILL think that brilliant basketball minds on the court comes even remotely close to anything resembling a perfect correlation to brilliant basketball minds off the court is astounding to me, but it doesn't look like that 'appeal to authority' is going to die off anytime soon.

[Hey Yo]

People need to stop sprouting excuses for Lebron. Highest California tax bracket is 12.3%. Dude gave up 17% in income, a whole extra year of guaranteed contract, plus he already owns a home in The OC. He has to make all new living arrangements in Dallas. This clearly wasn't about "saving money" :facepalm

Maybe you should reach out to Woj. Tell him he's pissing you off for allegedly lying about Klay and allgedley making excuses for LeBron.

[Wally450]

I guess Klay got his feeling hurt.

[90sgoat]

I look forward to LeBron owning a team so he can run a franchise into the ground just like MJ did.

The fact that people now have decades upon decades of data/examples and yet they STILL think that brilliant basketball minds on the court comes even remotely close to anything resembling a perfect correlation to brilliant basketball minds off the court is astounding to me, but it doesn't look like that 'appeal to authority' is going to die off anytime soon.

Bird was great as a GM.

West was great as a GM.

Phil was great as GM.

[RRR3]

Bird was great as a GM.

West was great as a GM.

Phil was great as GM.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[tpols]

Lakers dodged a bullet. That's way too much for a washed up Klay.

Klay is quite literally the perfect player for Luka / Lebron ball.

This kind of reminds me of the 2013 Ray Allen signing.

[RachlNicholsazz]

This kind of reminds me of the 2013 Ray Allen signing.

Without Ray Ray Lebron's legacy would look much less polished. You'd think with 3 All NBA ringers they wouldn't even have to rely on another stud.

[sdot_thadon]

Maybe Klay just doesn't like Lebron all that much.

He shouldn't. They faced off in how many playoff series and important games now? Can you blame him if he doesn't? That 3-1 comeback would have me like eff Lebron for life lol.

[90sgoat]

He shouldn't. They faced off in how many playoff series and important games now? Can you blame him if he doesn't? That 3-1 comeback would have me like eff Lebron for life lol.

Yeah I feel this is kind of obvious?

Klay is a competitor which is why he chose Mavs. I always got the impression he was the one fuming when they lost.

Why would he want to join Lebron when he won as many rings and beat Lebron for 3 of them?

[ImKobe]

"Thompson was however, interested in the Lakers and gave the team consideration. Ultimately, there were two key factors that heavily contributed to Thompson choosing the Lakers. For one, Thompson recognized that he could save more money by playing in Texas instead of California. Texas does not have income tax. Also, Thompson still wants to contend for a title and the Mavericks are coming off an NBA Finals run, finishing the year as the runner-ups, via ESPN's Adrian Wojnarowski.

Damn lol Lakers are at a point where people don't wanna go there because they know they have 0 chance of winning with Bran.

And we just signed his fking kid and are gonna give him the max to be mediocre smh.

[bullettooth]

Maybe Klay just doesn't like Lebron all that much.

Nobody does.

[sdot_thadon]

Yeah I feel this is kind of obvious?

Klay is a competitor which is why he chose Mavs. I always got the impression he was the one fuming when they lost.

Why would he want to join Lebron when he won as many rings and beat Lebron for 3 of them?

But that's not why he was mad, he was mad at how Lebron lil boy'd them in 2016. And maybe he don't feel like that at all 8 years later but I'd be like eff em.

[John8204]

Lakers dodged a bullet. That's way too much for a washed up Klay.

I don't know I think we're due for another dynasty and this might be the last year for a bunch of teams to win a ring. So if you are Dallas take the shot with Klay/Kyrie/Luka/Lively and hope you can find a PF

[gengiskhan]

mavs can contend for a title

lebron’s lakers can’t

it’s just that simple

This

Klay comes around as a guy who literally hates Drama..........tell me if I am not reading him right.

All that Dray-KD feud. All that Dray practice punching business. Klay looks like he mentally checks out when things get into fights.

He is neither Alpha nor Beta. He is more of a 'sigma' male. Why would he sign up with LA incl clippers for all that LeDrama every day.

Only god knows, what kind of drama will be cooked between LeDaddio and Bronny next season. Klay is a cold cat.

Mavs fits him. Luka's attitude seems passive and smily. Klay also saw how well Luka tamed Kyrie's bad attitude from BOS and BKL.

Dallas is a happy place for him. LA is just another Bay Area charade driven place. One got Dray, another got LBJ.

[StrongLurk]

Klay is washed as hell, who cares where he went.

[kawhileonard2]

The disrespect is real.

And Luka didn't even have to put in a call :facepalm

C'mon man..c'mon mang!

Good move!

[kawhileonard2]

Lakers dodged a bullet. That's way too much for a washed up Klay.

Couldn't make playoffs with peak Anthony Davis, Russell Westbrook.

[tpols]

Klay is washed as hell, who cares where he went.

If he was the 2nd or 3rd best player I would agree. But with Luka, Kyrie, Lively, and PJ? He's just an awesome fit with Luka. Off ball to compliment on ball. Max spacing and shooting. It's Miami Ray Allen allover again. And the numbers bore out that Lebron + Ray line ups performed incredibly. I expect something similar next year.

Just wish we could get rid of conferences. ****ing east gets a free path and has 8 seeds making Finals while the west teams have to beat the shit out of each other an come in having already fought 9 rounds.

[1987_Lakers]

It's really likely that the Mavs are one year wonders. This is a team who won just 50 games during the regular season and would have lost vs the Nuggets. Kyrie has always shown he falters without LeFather. And they just lost their best perimeter defender and replaced him Klay. I like their big men duo with Lively/Gafford, but their perimeter defense needs some serious work.

[tpols]

It's really likely that the Mavs are one year wonders. This is a team who won just 50 games during the regular season and would have lost vs the Nuggets. Kyrie has always shown he falters without LeFather. And they just lost their best perimeter defender and replaced him Klay. I like their big men duo with Lively/Gafford, but their perimeter defense needs some serious work.

They didn't lose because of defense. They lost because of their offense. They went ice cold from 3. Klay obviously helps with that tremendously.

Plus they made the WCFs two years ago as well with a much weaker team. It's foolish to act like they're "one hit wonders". Based on that alone.

[1987_Lakers]

They didn't lose because of defense. They lost because of their offense. They went ice cold from 3. Klay obviously helps with that tremendously.

Plus they made the WCFs two years ago as well with a much weaker team. It's foolish to act like they're "one hit wonders".

To be honest their 2022 team that made the WCF is on par with the team that just made the Finals, they are not some juggernaut of a team.

Watching Luka, Kyrie, & Klay defend is gonna be comical.

WE DONE WITH THE MAVS!!!!

[tpols]

To be honest their 2022 team that made the WCF is on par with the team that just made the Finals, they are not some juggernaut of a team.

Watching Luka, Kyrie, & Klay defend is gonna be comical.

WE DONE WITH THE MAVS!!!!

No... its absolutely not.

Their big man rotation was trash and now it's strong. Brunson is a little better than Kyrie imo but with Lively, Gafford, PJ and now Klay their depth is 1000x better. And that... clearly matters.

[tpols]

They just made the Finals with Luka and Kyries defense. And Klay is a better defender than both of them. Literally finished ahead of every single team in the league except 1. And that was as underdogs with no HCA in any series. I don't think they are particularly afraid.

[1987_Lakers]

No... its absolutely not.

It took them 6 games to beat the Clippers without Kawhi.

I'll give them credit for beating some solid teams in the next two rounds, but nobody was picking OKC & the Wolves to win a title. They got destroyed in the Finals by an actual great team.

Maybe they can make it back to the Finals considering the West isn't that strong, but they have so many holes in their roster for anyone to be acting like Dallas is some championship caliber team.

For me personally the team in the West who improved the most this off-season was OKC, not only did they add two stud defenders, but SGA & Holmgren will come back more experienced and better as players considering their young age.

Kyrie and Klay are not getting any better. Holmgren can really make that leap to all-star caliber next season and they added Caurso & Hartenstein to a team that already had a top 5 defense.


WE DONE WITH THE MAVS

[90sgoat]

This

Klay comes around as a guy who literally hates Drama..........tell me if I am not reading him right.

..

Dallas is a happy place for him. LA is just another Bay Area charade driven place. One got Dray, another got LBJ.

Yeah, Klay is chill. There's a video I watched of him on his boat in the bay and enjoying the outdoors with his bulldog and coffee. Seems like a guy who just wants to enjoy his life honestly and definitely doesn't want any of that drama. I was low key envious of Klay, not gonna lie. He got it made.

Introverted superstar, but not autistic or weird like some other guys. I can see how he could get along well with both Luka and Kyrie.

[Axe]

They didn't lose because of defense. They lost because of their offense. They went ice cold from 3. Klay obviously helps with that tremendously.

Plus they made the WCFs two years ago as well with a much weaker team. It's foolish to act like they're "one hit wonders". Based on that alone.

No... its absolutely not.

Their big man rotation was trash and now it's strong. Brunson is a little better than Kyrie imo but with Lively, Gafford, PJ and now Klay their depth is 1000x better. And that... clearly matters.
When klay was still playing for the dubs last season, you guys slammed him for playing terrible which also threw their chances away at the playoffs. But now that he's going to play for a new team, you think he's great again all of a sudden. :oldlol:

At least try to be consistent lmao.

[90sgoat]

When klay was still playing for the dubs last season, you guys slammed him for playing terrible which also threw their chances away at the playoffs. But now that he's going to play for a new team, you think he's great again all of a sudden. :oldlol:

At least try to be consistent lmao.

I didn't watch him play but 39% for almost 10 attempts is not playing like shit.

Maybe it isn't star level alone, but he's getting paid 17 million a year, not 50.

[tpols]

When klay was still playing for the dubs last season, you guys slammed him for playing terrible which also threw their chances away at the playoffs. But now that he's going to play for a new team, you think he's great again all of a sudden. :oldlol:

At least try to be consistent lmao.


Klay was the 2nd option on Golden State by points technically. Then Wiggins. Either way that team ŵon a ****ing title so I'd say they did pretty well for themselves. And Dallas has had a lot of playoff success before the Klay addition. That's what makes it scary axey baby.

[Axe]

Klay was the 2nd option on Golden State by points technically. Then Wiggins. Either way that team ŵon a ****ing title so I'd say they did pretty well for themselves. And Dallas has had a lot of playoff success before the Klay addition. That's what makes it scary axey baby.
Well yeah. But there's no guarantee that he's still gonna hit his shots often like he's done before. Last season proved that, tho he's certainly a welcome addition to the scoring arsenal of luka and irving. But if he keeps on pooping his pants numerous times the next season, then he'd find himself being played off the bench again. Something that infuriated him before the rs ended.

[RachlNicholsazz]

This thread is definitely going to be bumpable. 1987 Lakers making some predictions that are outrageous. Watch the Mavs set the league on fire and he'll be eating crow breakfast, lunch and dinner

[1987_Lakers]

This thread is definitely going to be bumpable. 1987 Lakers making some predictions that are outrageous. Watch the Mavs set the league on fire and he'll be eating crow breakfast, lunch and dinner

Just how most of this forum thought the Mavs would beat Boston while I was the few who predicted otherwise.

[j3lademaster]

Bird was great as a GM.

West was great as a GM.

Phil was great as GM.Bird was pretty mid as a gm. Above average at best. West is great. Bit carried by Laker's franchise, but still great. Phil was terrible. I'm taking Jerry Krause every single day over him. It's also weird you're trying to give examples of ex-players turning out to be good gm's and not including Ainge.

[Soundwave]

Lakers are a clown show, giving a roster spot to someone who couldn't even average 5 ppg at the college level because he's the son of a player, hiring a coach with no experience because he does a podcast with your "star" player after being turned down by a college coach.

Why would any big UFA want to sign there.

[gengiskhan]

Lakers are a clown show, giving a roster spot to someone who couldn't even average 5 ppg at the college level because he's the son of a player, hiring a coach with no experience because he does a podcast with your "star" player after being turned down by a college coach.

Why would any big UFA want to sign there.

I think Bronny will be fighting for the SG position Klay plays.

Klay is just that, an SG. He cannot be re-configured to SF position for Bronny's sake.

Klay too old. too one-dimensional.

I think Klay will give that 20-22 ppg 1st yr and 18-20 ppg 2nd yr for Mavs.

all the pressure is off Klay. All the pressure is on Luka and Kyrie.

Klay is literally in hunt for the elusive 5th ring. And he got 2 yrs max when Luka contract is up.

[Spurs m8]

Hilarious the Lakers have been turned into the most undesirable big market team in the league.

I wonder why.

I wonder where the problems started?

Even funnier LePED called him and grovelled like the b1tch he is :roll:

[Spurs m8]

Klay got first hand experience watching the fraud go 1 from 4

Including the last 2 finals series where Klay rubbed his balls all over the little b1tch and LePedo won 1 from 9 finals games

:roll:

LEGOAT :roll:

[BarberSchool]

Bird was pretty mid as a gm. Above average at best. West is great. Bit carried by Laker's franchise, but still great. Phil was terrible. I'm taking Jerry Krause every single day over him. It's also weird you're trying to give examples of ex-players turning out to be good gm's and not including Ainge.

Jerry Krause actively tried to trade Jordan and get Phil fired, both in 1995-1996, before the second 3-peat had started. What could Phil have done that is even 1/100th as bad as that ???????

[NBAGOAT]

Jerry Krause actively tried to trade Jordan and get Phil fired, both in 1995-1996, before the second 3-peat had started. What could Phil have done that is even 1/100th as bad as that ???????

he gave washed noah like 4yrs 72. Overshadowed by mozgov and deng but it was almost as bad

[3ba11]

I think Bronny will be fighting for the SG position Klay plays.

Klay is just that, an SG. He cannot be re-configured to SF position for Bronny's sake.

Klay too old. too one-dimensional.

I think Klay will give that 20-22 ppg 1st yr and 18-20 ppg 2nd yr for Mavs.

all the pressure is off Klay. All the pressure is on Luka and Kyrie.

Klay is literally in hunt for the elusive 5th ring. And he got 2 yrs max when Luka contract is up.


holy shit 5 chips for klay in the offing

[gengiskhan]

holy shit 5 chips for klay in the offing

I'm telling you right now.

With enormous pressure on Luka and Kyrie to win championship.

Klay can backdoor win that elusive FMVP with 5th ring.

That Championship DNA is there. All he gotta do is dig deep. and find it somehow.

It is all mental at this point at age 35 for him. He is cold as ice. He had dropped 40 pts in must win games b4.

In a grueling 7 games Celtics-Mavs re-match 2025 Finals. If Klay can muster up 2 games. a 35 pts, a 40 pts.

There is a remote chance he win FMVP if Mavs win Game 7 and all 3 trio contributed evenly and equally in winning cause.

[90sgoat]

There is a remote chance he win FMVP if Mavs win Game 7 and all 3 trio contributed evenly and equally in winning cause.

Mavs are still too thin to match up with Celtics unfortunately.

It depends on if someone like Hardy can take a step forward.

Luka/Hardy/Exum
Kyrie/Grimes
Klay/Naji/Omax
PJ/Kleber
Lively/Gafford/Powell

Imo, they need a better backup power forward than Kleber. I don't like that Mavs let someone like Joe Ingles go. They need that kind of player. Or Batum. Or Jae Crowder. Someone with some toughness and scoring ability.

I hope that Hardy takes a step forward. I think he could project to be someone like Reggie Jackson, which would be a big win. He's a scorer who attacks relentlessly and he had his moments in the playoffs.

I'd like to keep Kleber for culture reasons, but if you could package Kleber/Hardy for a power forward known guy, then I'd do that. Could they make a move with Knicks for Bojan Bogdanovich?

[Hey Yo]

Mavs are still too thin to match up with Celtics unfortunately.

It depends on if someone like Hardy can take a step forward.

Luka/Hardy/Exum
Kyrie/Grimes
Klay/Naji/Omax
PJ/Kleber
Lively/Gafford/Powell

Imo, they need a better backup power forward than Kleber. I don't like that Mavs let someone like Joe Ingles go. They need that kind of player. Or Batum. Or Jae Crowder. Someone with some toughness and scoring ability.

I hope that Hardy takes a step forward. I think he could project to be someone like Reggie Jackson, which would be a big win. He's a scorer who attacks relentlessly and he had his moments in the playoffs.

I'd like to keep Kleber for culture reasons, but if you could package Kleber/Hardy for a power forward known guy, then I'd do that. Could they make a move with Knicks for Bojan Bogdanovich?
He was moved as part of the Bridge's deal.