"Klay isn't playing well enough - that's why the Lakers are losing"

[3ba11]

Imagine a 1st option that allows teammates to be consistently blamed for losing.

What a travesty this would be but it's exactly what would happen if Klay went to the Lakers

He would average the same 18 ppg that he averaged last year and also the 2022 title run - he proved this was good enough to be the 2nd or 3rd option on a champion in 2022, but it would be blamed for the Lakers' losing in 2025..

That's one of the primary reasons that he went to Dallas, among others - he didn't want to play for a "crybaby" - Klay has said Lebron was a crybaby since 2016 - Klay was never drawn to that type of mentality.

[RRR3]

MJ would be Jaylen Nowell in 2024.

[Hey Yo]

OP been claiming since the summer of 2020 that AD is first option.

[3ba11]

OP been claiming since the summer of 2020 that AD is first option.


Yes but you guys don't agree, so I'm just using your frame of mind and the point actually works better that way

[gengiskhan]

MJ would be Jaylen Nowell in 2024.

You sure MJ won't be a heart attack kid in 2025 you sicko. :lol

[90sgoat]

Klay will have a career year and resurgence with Luka.

Can you imagine how one of the best off ball high iq players chose Luka?

[sdot_thadon]

Klay got a headache, that's why the Bulls are losing. Imagine a 1st option blaming a playoff loss on a guy who supposedly sucked anyway.

[Wardell Curry]

He will get the same things said about him in Dallas. And you know why? Because he sucks compared to the money he wanted. The Mavericks downgraded.

Luka, Kyrie & Klay? Oh man, ball handlers on the other teams are going to feast.

You think the Warriors suddenly just decided to get cheap? There's a reason they aren't paying him. Save us the boxscore watching. Watch the games.

For some reason people want to pretend players are the same as they were in their primes forever. Klay hasn't been a true stud since like 2017 or some shit. He's still a great shooter but it's streaky af and he'll shoot you out of more games than he will win you.

LeBron had pretty much the same stats last year that he had in 2015 & 2016 and they were overall very comparable to the rest of his career but anyone will tell you he's a shell of himself compared to 10 years ago.

Watch. the. games.

[90sgoat]

Klay got a headache, that's why the Bulls are losing. Imagine a 1st option blaming a playoff loss on a guy who supposedly sucked anyway.

Wrong schizo account.

[90sgoat]

Watch. the. games.

Sure, but there's no way around hitting 38% on 10 attempts from deep.

That's elite. No way around it.

If he can just be an average defender, that will be fine.

Mavs are good on team defense and hopefully Luka takes another step.

[3ba11]

Klay got a headache, that's why the Bulls are losing. Imagine a 1st option blaming a playoff loss on a guy who supposedly sucked anyway.

Getting blamed for averaging 18 is different than Pippen completely missing the closeout game in 1989 ECF (where he was never blamed) and then scored 2 points in the 90' closeout

And AD averages 25 and gets blamed, so that's also different than Pippen missing games entirely

[gengiskhan]

Getting blamed for averaging 18 is different than Pippen completely missing the closeout game in 1989 ECF (where he was never blamed) and then scored 2 points in the 90' closeout

And AD averages 25 and gets blamed, so that's also different than Pippen missing games entirely

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[sdot_thadon]

Wrong schizo account.

Wtf. I've got 1 account, ain't got enough time or shit to say for another one.

[sdot_thadon]

Getting blamed for averaging 18 is different than Pippen completely missing the closeout game in 1989 ECF (where he was never blamed) and then scored 2 points in the 90' closeout

And AD averages 25 and gets blamed, so that's also different than Pippen missing games entirely

Shut the hell up. They wouldn’t even have been in that round without Pippen as the history books show. You even blame him as they're winning while he's playing hurt rather than give him his flowers. Blame Pippen, blame Rodman, blame Grant, Kukoc, Longley, Harper while the Bulls were winning. At least a loss has probable cause for blaming someone, meanwhile doing it while winning is stupid.

[3ba11]

He will get the same things said about him in Dallas. And you know why? Because he sucks compared to the money he wanted. The Mavericks downgraded.

Luka, Kyrie & Klay? Oh man, ball handlers on the other teams are going to feast.

You think the Warriors suddenly just decided to get cheap? There's a reason they aren't paying him. Save us the boxscore watching. Watch the games.

For some reason people want to pretend players are the same as they were in their primes forever. Klay hasn't been a true stud since like 2017 or some shit. He's still a great shooter but it's streaky af and he'll shoot you out of more games than he will win you.

LeBron had pretty much the same stats last year that he had in 2015 & 2016 and they were overall very comparable to the rest of his career but anyone will tell you he's a shell of himself compared to 10 years ago.

Watch. the. games.


By adding Klay, the Mavs added someone whose floor is still a little better than peak KCP - that's not a bad pickup and reliable shooters that won't choke or go super-cold forever aren't that easy to find.

We know what Luka brings to the table... So if the Mavs aren't that good next year, it will be because Kyrie is older and gets hurt a lot.. If he played like 2017 Kyrie, then Klay would be more than viable for a title run at 3rd option.. The Mavs are gambling on that - life's a gamble and I think Klay has 1 more really good year left in him from a scoring, efficiency and consistency standpoint.

[PistonsFan#21]

https://youtu.be/roKwNV64LYI?si=cbHFRVv2nVSAs-69

[3ba11]

https://youtu.be/roKwNV64LYI?si=cbHFRVv2nVSAs-69


Lebron has to praise him because Kyrie was an equal, while MJ praised Pippen because Mj was a good teammate:



2016 Playoffs

LEBRON...... 26.2 ppg
KYRIE......... 25.2 ppg

^^ Lebron needs a "closer" and equal-scoring partner to attract equal defensive attentio[


92' Playoffs

JORDAN..... 34.5 ppg
PIPPEN...... 19.5 ppg

Jordan was the closer and defeated maximum defensive attention (carried scoring load)


As you can see, expert jumpshooters like Curry, Kobe and Jordan develop great chemistry so they can win with a secondary producers like Pippen, Pau or Klay, while Lebron's ball-dominant brand of ball needs elite-producing franchise players to be sidekick and match his scoring.

Furthermore, since AD led the Lakers in scoring for the 2020 regular season and Playoffs, that means Lebron never won as the 1st option without sidekicks that made the Finals without him.

[3ba11]

https://youtu.be/roKwNV64LYI?si=cbHFRVv2nVSAs-69


btw, the reporter literally attacked Kyrie right in front of Lebron, so what is Lebron supposed to do

Lebron has a coaching carousal of scapegoats and allows his Klutch minions like Nick Wright, Shannon Sharpe, Broussard, and Cowherd to constantly blame his teammates and say that he needs more help - the reason for losing is always "not enough help" and needing a bunch of upgrades..

The reason Lebron always needs more help is because his skillset imposes spot-up roles and therefore can't develop young players or have great chemistry, thereby needing more talent.. the "down-hill" skillset isn't 5-man basketball, so it can't develop the great chemistry required for a great-performing cast, aka great team.

[StrongLurk]

OP is not only wrong again, but his post is very ironic. All he does is blame Pippen for every loss the Bulls ever had, but now he is trying to act like blaming a teammate for losing is blasphemous. What a moron.

[3ba11]

OP is not only wrong again, but his post is very ironic. All he does is blame Pippen for every loss the Bulls ever had, but now he is trying to act like blaming a teammate for losing is blasphemous. What a moron.


Pippen was never blamed in 88', 89' or 95' - MJ was blamed for those losses even though Pippen was the bed-wetter in those series.

The thread title was never a headline in the 90's, while it's always a headline for Lebron's teams and that's why Klay didn't want to play there.. "Not enough help" is the only excuse given for Lebron's losses, so that reflects on Klay... Who would want to play with that?... No one apparently - not even LA guys like PG13, Derozan or Klay.. It's a disgrace and a reflection of "bron-ball" and it's ramifications.

People understand that great chemistry isn't an option for a high-scoring ball-dominator like Lebron, so "not enough talent" is the only excuse left for losing - garbage brands of ball like Lebron are forced to be talent-based winners (all-star team strategy), so they never really learned how to WIN (chemistry, organic)

[red1]

OP is mentally ill



Actually.