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gengiskhan
07-11-2024, 03:19 PM
Shooting Guard VS Shooting Guard VS Shooting Guard!

Klutch Bald Minion deliberately threw Alvin Robertson 1986 DPOY stats under the rug. Deliberately 'omitted' 1986 stats to make 1988 MJ look bad.

He made sure viewers never see a pattern as 1986 DPOY, 1987 DPOY and 1988 DPOY all SGs winning.

And there is a similar pattern. Home vs away, rest days vs non-rest days, travel fatigue vs resting at home.

1987 DPOY vs 1988 DPOY. Klutch Minion left out direct Coop VS MJ comparisons as former was looking very bad. This is all done to vilify and belittle MJ. So MJ dont look good in head-2-head comparison.

Like I said. MJ is now even more vindicated. He was destined to win atleast 1 DPOY. they may have successfully robbed him of another.

Also, Klutch Baldy left out Moncrief VS MJ comparisons too. Moncrief got back-2-back DPOY. Thats a smoking gun again!. He may inadvertently end up making a case for 1987 MJ DPOY robberty and back-2-back win.

Nonetheless, before Pippen's defensive arrival in 1992, MJ actually won legit and much needed DPOY. after 1991, those DPOY voting were getting Split between Pip and MJ as they were finishing 2nd or 3rd of 4th or 5th.

Another thing, LeRetard and his fans dont realise regarding 2012 DPOY campaingn. 2012 Wade must have split some 2012 LBJ DPOY votes.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0M2WPEkE_w&t=121s

3ba11
07-11-2024, 05:13 PM
Haberstroh's video is nonsense... 2 teams had positive road records in 1988 compared to half the league today (15 teams).. So the bad road conditions and records account for normal levels of home inflation that has decreased over time as road records improved.. And the one-offs of massive home inflation like 86' Robertson, 90' Hakeem, 22' AD, 88' Jordan, or 23 Jaren Jackson are due to any number of reasons such as personal issues that affect home/road play for that particular season.. The point is that there are better reasons than league-wide cheating to explain the normal home inflation or the one-offs of massive inflation.

Meanwhile, Haberstroh's buddy is a guy named Arnett and he did a video that showed Jordan's blocks to be massively DE-flated and the deflation exactly matches the inflation of the steals - this indicates that scorekeepers were marking certain blocks as steals.. Ultimately, Arnett's eye test showed that Jordan averaged about 2.5 blocks and 2.5 steals in 88' as a SG, aka GOAT defender.

gengiskhan
07-11-2024, 11:00 PM
Haberstroh's video is nonsense... 2 teams had positive road records in 1988 compared to half the league today (15 teams).. So the bad road conditions and records account for normal levels of home inflation that has decreased over time as road records improved.. And the one-offs of massive home inflation like 86' Robertson, 90' Hakeem, 22' AD, 88' Jordan, or 23 Jaren Jackson are due to any number of reasons such as personal issues that affect home/road play for that particular season.. The point is that there are better reasons than league-wide cheating to explain the normal home inflation or the one-offs of massive inflation.

Meanwhile, Haberstroh's buddy is a guy named Arnett and he did a video that showed Jordan's blocks to be massively DE-flated and the deflation exactly matches the inflation of the steals - this indicates that scorekeepers were marking certain blocks as steals.. Ultimately, Arnett's eye test showed that Jordan averaged about 2.5 blocks and 2.5 steals in 88' as a SG, aka GOAT defender.

More importantly.......

1988 MJ might have missed out on 2.5 BPG. thats lot more important.

forget SPG, a finger or 2 fingers last minisec deflected block might not have gotten counted. And to make matters worst, MJ played all 82 games.

This 1988 MJ true BPG would've been equivalent to 1989 Hakeem 2.6 SPG, the most ever in NBA history by Center position. Instead, 1988 MJ would've reversed it from Guard position regarding Blocks. 2.5+ BPG of MJ = 2.6 SPG by Hakeem

to make matters worst, 2.5 BPG for 82 games = 205 blocks for season!!. That is literally Jaw dropping for 6'5" - 6'6" SG positioned athlete.

I'll take 205/180 over 131/259 any given day!!

And that 1988 MJ was a defensive monster shot blocker from SG perimeter position.

Never seen so much horizontal ground area covered so effortlessly like someone gliding through.

gengiskhan
07-11-2024, 11:01 PM
Haberstroh's video is nonsense... 2 teams had positive road records in 1988 compared to half the league today (15 teams).. So the bad road conditions and records account for normal levels of home inflation that has decreased over time as road records improved.. And the one-offs of massive home inflation like 86' Robertson, 90' Hakeem, 22' AD, 88' Jordan, or 23 Jaren Jackson are due to any number of reasons such as personal issues that affect home/road play for that particular season.. The point is that there are better reasons than league-wide cheating to explain the normal home inflation or the one-offs of massive inflation.

Meanwhile, Haberstroh's buddy is a guy named Arnett and he did a video that showed Jordan's blocks to be massively DE-flated and the deflation exactly matches the inflation of the steals - this indicates that scorekeepers were marking certain blocks as steals.. Ultimately, Arnett's eye test showed that Jordan averaged about 2.5 blocks and 2.5 steals in 88' as a SG, aka GOAT defender.

More importantly.......

1988 MJ might have missed out on 2.5 BPG. thats lot more important.

forget SPG, a finger or 2 fingers last minisec deflected block might not have gotten counted. And to make matters worst, MJ played all 82 games.

This 1988 MJ true BPG would've been equivalent to 1989 Hakeem 2.6 SPG, the most ever in NBA history by Center position. Instead, 1988 MJ would've reversed it from Guard position regarding Blocks. 2.5+ BPG of MJ = 2.6 SPG by Hakeem

to make matters worst, 2.5 BPG for 82 games = 205 blocks for season!!. That is literally Jaw dropping for 6'5" - 6'6" SG positioned athlete.

I'll take 205/180 over 131/259 any given day!!

And that 1988 MJ was a defensive monster shot blocker from SG perimeter position.

Never seen so much horizontal ground area covered so effortlessly like someone gliding through.

3ba11
07-12-2024, 12:09 AM
More importantly.......

1988 MJ might have missed out on 2.5 BPG. thats lot more important.

forget SPG, a finger or 2 fingers last minisec deflected block might not have gotten counted. And to make matters worst, MJ played all 82 games.

This 1988 MJ true BPG would've been equivalent to 1989 Hakeem 2.6 SPG, the most ever in NBA history by Center position. Instead, 1988 MJ would've reversed it from Guard position regarding Blocks. 2.5+ BPG of MJ = 2.6 SPG by Hakeem

to make matters worst, 2.5 BPG for 82 games = 205 blocks for season!!. That is literally Jaw dropping for 6'5" - 6'6" SG positioned athlete.

I'll take 205/180 over 131/259 any given day!!

And that 1988 MJ was a defensive monster shot blocker from SG perimeter position.

Never seen so much horizontal ground area covered so effortlessly like someone gliding through.


And just like Arnett said - this is a 10 game sample of deflated blocks numbers - so MJ did infact average about 2.5 blocks in 1988 based on this great sample size, which is astounding and makes him the GOAT defender pound-for-pound.. Arnett kept repeating how MJ contested every shot and far more than anyone he'd ever seen - MJ is just the goat defender pound-for-pound... He instilled a culture of effort and his style of play allowed the best ball movement and chemistry - effort and chemistry are primary drivers of a great team defense and MJ facilitated these things more than anyone in history.

sdot_thadon
08-05-2024, 01:03 PM
All that text because yall can't explain the fake steals:cry:

Until we can explain those fake steals yall both(or just you. Whichever shoe fits) needs to have a nice, tall, cool glass of.....STFU. You fellas stretching like Dhalsim to still not address the elephant in the room.

Hey Yo
08-05-2024, 01:15 PM
OP


"1980 Olympic team couldn't even medal without Jordan!!!!!"

:lol

warriorfan
08-05-2024, 02:38 PM
All that text because yall can't explain the fake steals:cry:

Until we can explain those fake steals yall both(or just you. Whichever shoe fits) needs to have a nice, tall, cool glass of.....STFU. You fellas stretching like Dhalsim to still not address the elephant in the room.

s thott tha pawn trying to convince himself again :roll:

1987_Lakers
08-05-2024, 03:05 PM
A YouTuber already went back and saw the games and confirmed they MJ got fake steals. Even said the reporter was being generous to MJ because he counted less steals.

1987_Lakers
08-05-2024, 03:06 PM
OP


"1980 Olympic team couldn't even medal without Jordan!!!!!"

:lol

:roll:

gengiskhan
08-05-2024, 03:38 PM
:roll:

because Team USA chickened out. :roll:

could'nt even face 1980 USSR out of fear because MJ hasnt arrived yet. :lol

Boycott is just an excuse by USA Olympics Committee. :facepalm

Remember what he said, "I can accept failure. I cannot accept not trying".

2004 LBJ choked and failed by not even trying. LeLoser LeBronze mentality.

https://i.ibb.co/f1RLqTz/michael-jordan.jpg (https://ibb.co/zncDQtT)

RRR3
08-05-2024, 03:40 PM
Lil Gengy's two neurons overheating trying to come up with a proper comeback, but he's simply too dumb to do it :oldlol:

gengiskhan
08-05-2024, 03:43 PM
Lil Gengy's two neurons overheating trying to come up with a proper comeback, but he's simply too dumb to do it :oldlol:

lil swiny piggy trying extra heard again and again.

Go read the original IOC charter that USA Olympics commitee signed up on way back in 1892.

Keeping the olympics games far far away from any politics and political influence.

1980 USA olympics committe deliberately brought "cold war politics" into 1980 Moscow olympics and "started" boycotting trend.

You loose 100% of the Golds you did not even "show up" for.........................FACT!

read the image again and again and again til you get it.

https://i.ibb.co/f1RLqTz/michael-jordan.jpg (https://ibb.co/zncDQtT)

1987_Lakers
08-05-2024, 05:46 PM
You loose 100% of the Golds you did not even "show up

“Loose” :lol