True or False: Dwade was CLEARLY the best player on the Redeem team (08 Olympics)

[Akhenaten]

Personally I dont think it's even close

Lead the team in scoring while playing 5-6 less minutes than the 2nd and third leading scorers, lead the tournament in points per 36 and steals per 36. All while shooting a mind-blowing 67% FG :biggums:

[tpols]

Wade was great but Olympic averages are skewed due to 90% of the matches being cans. Every game USA played up until the Gold Medal match was a 20-30 point blowout.

https://i.postimg.cc/9FZ4Lgr6/Screenshot-20240717-114333-Chrome.jpg

And then when it mattered most...


https://youtu.be/fhpVE5Yfvhc?si=YBriND-osj8kGnSU

Kobe iced their only legit opponent when it really mattered.

[RRR3]

Wade was great but Olympic averages are skewed due to 90% of the matches being cans. Every game USA played up until the Gold Medal match was a 20-30 point blowout.

https://i.postimg.cc/9FZ4Lgr6/Screenshot-20240717-114333-Chrome.jpg

And then when it mattered most...


https://youtu.be/fhpVE5Yfvhc?si=YBriND-osj8kGnSU

Kobe iced their only legit opponent when it really mattered.
Wade put up 27 on 9/12 in that game and Kobe had 20 on 7/14 :oldlol:


ttrolls at it again

[dankok8]

False. Wade was probably the best but not clearly. That would imply he's a tier ahead of all others which he wasn't.

[hold this L]

False. Wade was probably the best but not clearly. That would imply he's a tier ahead of all others which he wasn't.

Most fair statement

[Nowoco]

I've gotta be honest, the Redeem team is so ****ing overrated. Not the roster or individual players but the achievement. The 2004 team was such a huge dumpster fire on and off the court that it somehow makes the US getting back to gold medal winning ways overstated. The US should blowout every single team they ever face with whatever lineup they put out. Yes international players ball out of their skin for their countries but it shouldn't matter. Spain of 2008 had the Gasol brothers, 17 year old Ricky Rubio and Rudy Fernandez yes but the US had 8 Hall of Famers. Superstars in their prime, any one of which can take over a game anytime and win it. Those other countries might have one or two of those players max.

It isnt arrogance at all but anything less than a US gold win is a catastrophic failure. The narrative that Kobe was needed to win is insane. If prime LeBron, Wade, Melo, Howard, Kidd and CP3 cant beat maybe one star and a bunch of EuroLeague players then the coaching is dogshit or the players don't give a ****. It's inexcusable.

[SouBeachTalents]

False. Wade was probably the best but not clearly. That would imply he's a tier ahead of all others which he wasn't.
This is correct, saying it was "not even close" is definitely inaccurate.

[RRR3]

I've gotta be honest, the Redeem team is so ****ing overrated. Not the roster or individual players but the achievement. The 2004 team was such a huge dumpster fire on and off the court that it somehow makes the US getting back to gold medal winning ways overstated. The US should blowout every single team they ever face with whatever lineup they put out. Yes international players ball out of their skin for their countries but it shouldn't matter. Spain of 2008 had the Gasol brothers, 17 year old Ricky Rubio and Rudy Fernandez yes but the US had 8 Hall of Famers. Superstars in their prime, any one of which can take over a game anytime and win it. Those other countries might have one or two of those players max.

It isnt arrogance at all but anything less than a US gold win is a catastrophic failure. The narrative that Kobe was needed to win is insane. If prime LeBron, Wade, Melo, Howard, Kidd and CP3 cant beat maybe one star and a bunch of EuroLeague players then the coaching is dogshit or the players don't give a ****. It's inexcusable.
When you have that many high usage players on a team, there are diminishing returns. It's better to have a couple stars and role players.

[Xiao Yao You]

Wade and lebron

[ShawkFactory]

No he wasn't clearly. He, Kobe, and Lebron each had kind of their separate roles and impact. Wade was kind of the all-around guy and whirling dervish. Lebron to a slightly lesser extent but he was incredible defensively at that time. All over the court.

Kobe was the closer and leader.

[Akhenaten]

False. Wade was probably the best but not clearly. That would imply he's a tier ahead of all others which he wasn't.


It's an 8 game tourney not nearly enough to impact any sort of ranking them as players, I'm asking strictly about if there were a tournament MVP who would win.


To me Wade had the best tourney hands down.

[ILLsmak]

When you have that many high usage players on a team, there are diminishing returns. It's better to have a couple stars and role players.

I think it's more that everyone is playing the same role now haha. So you end up with like 3 guys who are the same player on the court at the same time, and you end up having to take role players to keep that from happening.

I think a star is better than a role player. I think that the fact we can't field a team that is still smashing everyone is pretty sad. There are a lot of politics involved. They let a bummy like Embiid get play time when he should prol be shelved given his state.

Whether dudes are 'real stars' or just up and comers, there is no way we can't get 12~ players who are clearly superior to their match up, except the few instances where an MVP caliber player is on another national team. That's where having a star matters. A star overshadows their mid level nba players. If they are vs a role player, they have more of a chance psychologically. Teams should be scared to suit up vs us, still. Our talent is absolutely out of this world when compared to the rest. 1-5 no one can see us. A whole rotation, and it shouldn't even be close. Even if 1-5 was equal, when you add in our bench, they should be so much better than the other team that they could win there.

It's a disgrace we aren't able to bag people like before, but I think along with politics, we also don't wanna humiliate the world like we used to. The players probably do, but the people building the teams, etc... We are so far ahead in terms of athleticism and skill we should just be trashing them, tho.

-Smak

[red1]

True.

[And1AllDay]

false kobe