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Hey Yo
07-18-2024, 10:30 AM
The article provides three different dates that offer 3 different scenarios that Bridges may choose from. But he's already being underpaid from the last deal he signed.

"The curveball here is that, unlike Brunson, Bridges is not even eligible to sign yet. There are three key dates to watch in the Bridges negotiations. On each of those dates, a different sort of contract becomes available to him. So let's go through all three, lay out his options and attempt to figure out what sort of deal he ultimately takes."

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/mikal-bridges-likely-to-take-team-friendly-deal-with-knicks-per-report-but-what-would-that-look-like/

Real Men Wear Green
07-18-2024, 10:44 AM
Dolan must love these guys.

Patrick Chewing
07-18-2024, 10:56 AM
Clearing that money up for Luka

rawimpact
07-18-2024, 11:20 AM
This is what you call colluding. It's just that there are a bunch of 2nd tier players doing so... pretty dumb from a financial and probability standpoint.

warriorfan
07-18-2024, 11:40 AM
This is what you call colluding. It's just that there are a bunch of 2nd tier players doing so... pretty dumb from a financial and probability standpoint.

You wouldn’t give up 20% of your pay to work in New York with all your friends? (Knowing that you and your kids are already financially set for life of course)

Carbine
07-18-2024, 11:42 AM
This is setting a dangerous precedent.

warriorfan
07-18-2024, 11:47 AM
This is setting a dangerous precedent.

In case you have been under a rock for the past 15 years, Lebron/wade/bosh did the same shit. They all didn’t take max money when they could have on the open market.

Stop acting like this is anything new.

Real Men Wear Green
07-18-2024, 12:25 PM
This is setting a dangerous precedent.

"Dangerous" is a bit hyperbolic. The crime has no victim. And they're going to be between 2nd and 4th in their conference which is nice but not all that enviable.

Carbine
07-18-2024, 12:28 PM
I don't think it's appropriate to compare Lebron taking 15 million less over 6 years to someone who took four years 156.5 million over 5 year 259 million dollar

Brunson is making significantly less than his "market" value. Woj said it best, this is unprecedented. Now we might have his teammate following.

tpols
07-18-2024, 12:34 PM
I don't think it's appropriate to compare Lebron taking 15 million less over 6 years to someone who took four years 156.5 million over 5 year 259 million dollar

Brunson is making significantly less than his "market" value. Woj said it best, this is unprecedented. Now we might have his teammate following.


:roll:

Yea were gonna feel bad for guys voluntarily taking less money to try and win, accepting only 150+ million dollar deals.

I'm sure they're they're gonna be crying all the way to the bank and their luxury mansions.

This is daaangerous guys.

Real Men Wear Green
07-18-2024, 12:48 PM
I don't think it's appropriate to compare Lebron taking 15 million less over 6 years to someone who took four years 156.5 million over 5 year 259 million dollar

Brunson is making significantly less than his "market" value. Woj said it best, this is unprecedented. Now we might have his teammate following.If this is a problem it's only for the union and it's for the union to deal with. If they can base their team on 4 or so guys that make 40 mil per they should have that right. They aren't breaking rules and that's not a superteam.

Carbine
07-18-2024, 12:48 PM
It's no surprise you are taking what I'm saying completely wrong.

I nor anyone else should feel bad for them taking less to try and win.

The point I'm making is that this new CBA makes it very difficult to keep teams together under the assumption players take their supposed market value.

It was supposed to make "super teams" a thing of the past. Two star teams surrounded by role players if what this CBA emphasises.

Now that Brunson has set this standard of taking this kind of pay cut in his peak to win, others may feel like it's "the right thing to do"

The dangerous aspect comes from if 3 superstars want to team up, the 25 percent pay cut that was never seen before to play together and win, is now on the table.

gbaLL
07-18-2024, 12:49 PM
peace day

Real Men Wear Green
07-18-2024, 01:05 PM
It's no surprise you are taking what I'm saying completely wrong.

I nor anyone else should feel bad for them taking less to try and win.

The point I'm making is that this new CBA makes it very difficult to keep teams together under the assumption players take their supposed market value.

It was supposed to make "super teams" a thing of the past. Two star teams surrounded by role players if what this CBA emphasises.

Now that Brunson has set this standard of taking this kind of pay cut in his peak to win, others may feel like it's "the right thing to do"

The dangerous aspect comes from if 3 superstars want to team up, the 25 percent pay cut that was never seen before to play together and win, is now on the table.The CBA is not written by some altruistic individual whose goal is the balancing of power. It is the result of a negotiation between two sides whose monetary goals directly oppose one another. In other words, it's the lovechild of a hate****. When MJ owned the Hornets he would happily have agreed to a CBA that let one team sign all 24 All-Stars so long as he got to take home a few hundred million every year. So if superstars are willing to sacrifice money it will always be allowed. Especially seeing as there's not much to be done about that anyhow.

Neal Romer
07-18-2024, 01:16 PM
It's no surprise you are taking what I'm saying completely wrong.

I nor anyone else should feel bad for them taking less to try and win.

The point I'm making is that this new CBA makes it very difficult to keep teams together under the assumption players take their supposed market value.

It was supposed to make "super teams" a thing of the past. Two star teams surrounded by role players if what this CBA emphasises.

Now that Brunson has set this standard of taking this kind of pay cut in his peak to win, others may feel like it's "the right thing to do"

The dangerous aspect comes from if 3 superstars want to team up, the 25 percent pay cut that was never seen before to play together and win, is now on the table.


And this is 'dangerous' because...?

Carbine
07-18-2024, 01:30 PM
It's dangerous for the higher ups because it's exactly what they are trying to get rid of with this new CBA.

gbaLL
07-18-2024, 01:33 PM
let$ ud da Trumper$

rawimpact
07-18-2024, 02:20 PM
You wouldn’t give up 20% of your pay to work in New York with all your friends? (Knowing that you and your kids are already financially set for life of course)


As fun as it sounds to work alongside good friends, no. This is a business that has finite time to earn. As close as I am with friends I would have to position myself to do what's best for myself and my children. I would not give up the 100M Brunson did. My friends can enjoy our time and retirement together in another decade when out of the league.

gbaLL
07-18-2024, 02:21 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_aNvUD4f-M

tpols
07-18-2024, 02:30 PM
As fun as it sounds to work alongside good friends, no. This is a business that has finite time to earn. As close as I am with friends I would have to position myself to do what's best for myself and my children. I would not give up the 100M Brunson did. My friends can enjoy our time and retirement together in another decade when out of the league.

Whether your kids inherit 100 million dollars or 150 million dollars isn't going to make any difference. It's actually proven that spoiling them will be worse in the long run because they will never have to develop the work ethic and discipline their fathers had to achieve success because everything was simply given to them on a gold platter. Once again, you guys are valuing money over life. Which is totally backwards.

gbaLL
07-18-2024, 02:33 PM
marley = goOD

Charlie Sheen
07-18-2024, 02:35 PM
You wouldn’t give up 20% of your pay to work in New York with all your friends? (Knowing that you and your kids are already financially set for life of course)

Nailed it.

Revenue sharing. Dolan lays out the bigger picture in this article: https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/knicks-owner-james-dolan-rips-nba-for-revenue-sharing-new-broadcast-rights-deal/


benefits at as few as 23 home games -- roughly 20 percent reduction to what was historically provided.

The new media deal takes revenue away from the Knicks and Lakers taking more games off their rsn's.

If the MLB put games on every night during the week, the luxury tax in baseball would become a hard cap because it makes the Yankees, Dodgers and Mets even with the rest of the league.

ImKobe
07-19-2024, 09:03 AM
It was supposed to make "super teams" a thing of the past. Two star teams surrounded by role players if what this CBA emphasises.

Now that Brunson has set this standard of taking this kind of pay cut in his peak to win, others may feel like it's "the right thing to do"

The dangerous aspect comes from if 3 superstars want to team up, the 25 percent pay cut that was never seen before to play together and win, is now on the table.

We already saw this happen with the Heat's Big 3 in 2011. Most players are not willing to take that pay cut.

Carbine
07-19-2024, 09:18 AM
I'm not sure why I have to say this over and over again.

It's not the fact players taking discounts haven't happened before.

It's the amount of discount that Brunson is taking.

Lebron was entitled to a 6 year 124.5 million dollar deal back then. He took 110 million, which is 14.5 million less.

He took a 14.5 million dollar pay cut over the course of the entire contract. Couple million a year.

Brunson is taking 14.8 million dollar pay cut.... Every season. Not over the course of the entire contract. He's taking that hit every year.

Massive difference.

ImKobe
07-19-2024, 09:44 AM
I'm not sure why I have to say this over and over again.

It's not the fact players taking discounts haven't happened before.

It's the amount of discount that Brunson is taking.

Lebron was entitled to a 6 year 124.5 million dollar deal back then. He took 110 million, which is 14.5 million less.

He took a 14.5 million dollar pay cut over the course of the entire contract. Couple million a year.

Brunson is taking 14.8 million dollar pay cut.... Every season. Not over the course of the entire contract. He's taking that hit every year.

Massive difference.

Bosh took the same paycut and Wade sacrificed even more in order to make it happen. None of the Heat's Big 3 players were even top 20 in salary for the 2010-11 season. Contracts are over twice as big now.

Obviously Brunson is sacrificing more here, but I doubt this sets a new precedent for stars around the league. Most players are about their money first and will not give up tens of millions to have a better chance at winning a championship. It's not going to happen.