Wade believes that before injury he was coming for MJs spot.

[Kblaze8855]

https://youtu.be/fxoJUb14xV0?si=1k5MDp1WRc5vzpkT



Whole interview but that discussion is around 12 minutes in.

He does his best not to get into rankings but he eventually acknowledged it. 05-2011 Wade….I can see why he’d think that.

[SouBeachTalents]

He still wasn’t as good as Jordan, but he was as good as any other SG ever in his prime.

[Wardell Curry]

You can't go as far as he went without being at least somewhat delusional, which he clearly is.

[beasted]

The bigger question is if he properly repaired his meniscus in college rather than partially removing it, how much more explosion he could have maintained rather than managing pain, swelling his whole career.

He really could have been in the goat conversation instead of just the top 30 or so.

[RRR3]

He still wasn’t as good as Jordan, but he was as good as any other SG ever in his prime.
Here. They. Come.

[paksat]

his teaming up with lebron spoiled it, made him change his game to something he was not


he had the ability, 09 wade is the best player I've seen. No weaknesses besides a 3 point shot he didn't practice, and that season he hit at 32% I believe without looking. A reasonable rate for a shot he doesn't even want to shoot nor practice.

[sdot_thadon]

He wasn't wrong for feeling that way, especially at that point in his career. Those knees changed his career trajectory more than sharing the ball did. I feel like prime Wade was capable of giving Mj everything he could handle and then some. We always think Kobe and the chess match he'd have played with Mike but with Dwade It would be a matchup with a fast guard who's in Jordan's orbit of athletic ability and you could even make an argument Wade was stronger than 1st 3peat Mike. Thats a dream matchup for sure.

[warriorfan]

He wasn't wrong for feeling that way, especially at that point in his career. Those knees changed his career trajectory more than sharing the ball did. I feel like prime Wade was capable of giving Mj everything he could handle and then some. We always think Kobe and the chess match he'd have played with Mike but with Dwade It would be a matchup with a fast guard who's in Jordan's orbit of athletic ability and you could even make an argument Wade was stronger than 1st 3peat Mike. Thats a dream matchup for sure.

For sure, he’s also an Alpha Dog.

Look at him completely emasculate LeBron during one of his disappearing acts.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emXNsKw7a3w

[red1]

zero doubt


he was unguardable. I was a huge fan of 09 wade. I think he was better than kobe and lebron that year.

[ArbitraryWater]

I was about to flame on him but his first 6-7 years were pretty much up there.

Not MJ level but damn.

[Patrick Chewing]

smoking that good shit d wade :pimp:

[sdot_thadon]

For sure, he’s also an Alpha Dog.

Look at him completely emasculate LeBron during one of his disappearing acts.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emXNsKw7a3w

That right there was part of them failing and then learning the path forward to win. A turning point in the heatles run for sure. After they figured that out they wrecked shop for the next 2-3 years.

[RRR3]

That right there was part of them failing and then learning the path forward to win. A turning point in the heatles run for sure. After they figured that out they wrecked shop for the next 2-3 years.
Just ignore his desperate trolling, he's been begging for attention all day. Poor guy is lonely af :oldlol:

[1987_Lakers]

'09 was such a sick year for individual seasons. LeBron, Wade, & CP3 all had historic years while Kobe was still in his prime.

[HylianNightmare]

His prime is up there with any SG ever

[Carbine]

https://youtu.be/fxoJUb14xV0?si=1k5MDp1WRc5vzpkT



Whole interview but that discussion is around 12 minutes in.

He does his best not to get into rankings but he eventually acknowledged it. 05-2011 Wade….I can see why he’d think that.

Why would anyone think that based on '05 to '11 Wade?

It's just illogical. Up to that point he was never even top 2 in MVP voting. He was never all defense first team. He was first team all NBA just twice....

1 title and FMVP.

That's Wades resume age 23-29. It's solid in the all time scheme of things, but why would he or you or anyone think he was right in thinking this based on 05-11?

Jordan just completed the 3 peat during his age 29 season, 3 Regular Season MVP awards and 3 more FMVPs. DPOY, 7 time all NBA first team and 6 time all NBA defensive.

It just doesn't make sense. Wade doesn't get some magical boost to put him on a pedestal next to Jordan due to "eye test" either because Jordan was at the very very very worst just as good in that regard and levels above at best.

[SATAN]

Just ignore his desperate trolling, he's been begging for attention all day. Poor guy is lonely af :oldlol:

Not surprising since he's probably still hiding from the kids who smashed his window. :lol

[warriorfan]

Not surprising since he's probably still hiding from the kids who smashed his window. :lol

your father is still probably hiding from the kids from your mom

no father figure explains why your name is SATAN and have no idea about anything that has to due with sports, or with anything at all for that matter :lol

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This dude is straight traumatized from online bullying.

Hella sad.

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[Axe]

Not surprising since he's probably still hiding from the kids who smashed his window. :lol
:milton

[90sgoat]

Too short to have the same defensive impact as MJ, but yeah Wade had some otherworldly athleticism, not just speed and jumping but being very strong.

[dankok8]

Wade is kind of a backstabber friend. He always takes shots at Lebron...

[warriorfan]

Wade is kind of a backstabber friend. He always takes shots at Lebron...

after 2011 can you blame him?

[red1]

Wade is kind of a backstabber friend. He always takes shots at Lebron...

he helped lebron get 2 rings and fmvps I'm sure he can even call Bron a homo in interviews and they'd still be cool

[And1AllDay]

his teaming up with lebron spoiled it, made him change his game to something he was not


he had the ability, 09 wade is the best player I've seen. No weaknesses besides a 3 point shot he didn't practice, and that season he hit at 32% I believe without looking. A reasonable rate for a shot he doesn't even want to shoot nor practice.

gave his career more life length not being #1 any longer

dude fell to 20-5-5 only one year after bran in 12'

[Kblaze8855]

Why would anyone think that based on '05 to '11 Wade?

It's just illogical. Up to that point he was never even top 2 in MVP voting. He was never all defense first team. He was first team all NBA just twice....

1 title and FMVP.

That's Wades resume age 23-29. It's solid in the all time scheme of things, but why would he or you or anyone think he was right in thinking this based on 05-11?

Jordan just completed the 3 peat during his age 29 season, 3 Regular Season MVP awards and 3 more FMVPs. DPOY, 7 time all NBA first team and 6 time all NBA defensive.

It just doesn't make sense. Wade doesn't get some magical boost to put him on a pedestal next to Jordan due to "eye test" either because Jordan was at the very very very worst just as good in that regard and levels above at best.



résumé at whatever age means nothing to me. Tatum has a better résumé at his age than a lot of people considerably more impressive. Quite a lot of people do. I’m just talking about basketball. As great as he was in 2006 he was probably better from 8-10. It’s an elite level to play on. It was him, Lebron, and Kobe and a reasonable person could and did rank that 3 in any order at times of that run. And two of the three get considerable goat talk, and the versions Wade was roughly equal to are considered among their best.

If you can reasonably be ranked with 09 Kobe and Lebron you’re justified in thinking you can be whatever from a basketball perspective. And as much as people push back on it now, it wasn’t a weird thing to hear any of those three put in any order at that time. It’s one of those things that time distorts And people believe is less true the further you get from living it.

Like Moses Malone being considered better than bird and magic in the 80s. The accolades suggested that but that isn’t always the case. People have won MVP and never been considered the best.

Wade was roughly as good as people who justifiably or not are heavily involved in the GOAT discussion. That’s reason enough for him to think what he thought.

[ILLsmak]

yea Wade was special. If he didn't get injured in 05, they might have gone b2b, too. They were right there and him going out really changed everything. Back when detroit was a monster, but they had Shaq to help. Still, without him they were dun. As I have posted on here, despite what people think, in terms of all time teams, I really think 05 and 06 Heat were up there, at least once they hit their stride at the end of 05. They had a lot of talent and all of the pieces fit. It wasn't just like 5 all stars, but it was tiered. They had dudes taking turns showing out.

I'd put that team vs a lot of teams all time, straight up. They might not win, but they'd make it a series. If Wade could withstand the MIRROR MATCH I think they might compare favorably with the big 3 heat.

-Smak

[Carbine]

résumé at whatever age means nothing to me. Tatum has a better résumé at his age than a lot of people considerably more impressive. Quite a lot of people do. I’m just talking about basketball. As great as he was in 2006 he was probably better from 8-10. It’s an elite level to play on. It was him, Lebron, and Kobe and a reasonable person could and did rank that 3 in any order at times of that run. And two of the three get considerable goat talk, and the versions Wade was roughly equal to are considered among their best.

If you can reasonably be ranked with 09 Kobe and Lebron you’re justified in thinking you can be whatever from a basketball perspective. And as much as people push back on it now, it wasn’t a weird thing to hear any of those three put in any order at that time. It’s one of those things that time distorts And people believe is less true the further you get from living it.

Like Moses Malone being considered better than bird and magic in the 80s. The accolades suggested that but that isn’t always the case. People have won MVP and never been considered the best.

Wade was roughly as good as people who justifiably or not are heavily involved in the GOAT discussion. That’s reason enough for him to think what he thought.

Theres a few things to point out.

First is Tatum's resume. He doesn't have as good as resume as you seem to think.

He's about to turn 27 and he has three all NBA first teams to his name. And a title where he didn't win either the ECF MVP or Finals MVP.

He has no MVPs to speak of. No DPOYs or all NBA Defense selections.

It's not some wildly great resume for about to be 27 years old.

Second of all if resume means nothing to YOU that's fine, but you must have some criteria and if it isn't a resume than it's the eye test and as I said before, YOU (not someone else) can't really believe he was logical to say he was coming for MJs spot based on that. Or maybe you do, which I think is a crazy thing to suggest but we will agree to disagree.

The third and most important thing is when someone says they are coming for MJ, it doesn't mean that they for one or two years peaked somewhat close to MJ. You don't "come for MJ" based on that. You overtake MJ with a resume, that's just a cold hard fact. You know that as much as I do. Nobody is coming for MJ with Wade's resume up to '11.

If all that's required to say shit like I'm coming for *insert goat" is a level of player you achieve as a "peak" for a year or two that's a wildly low bar to set.

[dankok8]

yea Wade was special. If he didn't get injured in 05, they might have gone b2b, too. They were right there and him going out really changed everything. Back when detroit was a monster, but they had Shaq to help. Still, without him they were dun. As I have posted on here, despite what people think, in terms of all time teams, I really think 05 and 06 Heat were up there, at least once they hit their stride at the end of 05. They had a lot of talent and all of the pieces fit. It wasn't just like 5 all stars, but it was tiered. They had dudes taking turns showing out.

I'd put that team vs a lot of teams all time, straight up. They might not win, but they'd make it a series. If Wade could withstand the MIRROR MATCH I think they might compare favorably with the big 3 heat.

-Smak

2006 Heat are one of the weakest champions in modern history. At least if you trust the metrics.

2005 Heat were better but got derailed by injuries.

[RachlNicholsazz]

Lakers were a heartbeat away from getting Wade to join the Lakers in 04 for Shaq. Kobe was furious the Lakers could only get Caron Butler. No one knew for sure Wade was going to be a superstar. I always wondered how Kobe's and Wade's legacy would have went if they had teamed up

[Kblaze8855]

Having watched his entire career as closely as I’d believe anyone here could say I’ll just say this….


Closest player I’ve seen to peak Jordan is peak Wade. Closest player I’ve seen to declined but still the best Jordan is peak Kobe.

And it isn’t that resume doesn’t matter for “greatest”. Thats largely what greatness is. It just doesn’t make you someone’s equal at basketball.

[RRR3]

Having watched his entire career as closely as I’d believe anyone here could say I’ll just say this….


Closest player I’ve seen to peak Jordan is peak Wade. Closest player I’ve seen to declined but still the best Jordan is peak Kobe.

And it isn’t that resume doesn’t matter for “greatest”. Thats largely what greatness is. It just doesn’t make you someone’s equal at basketball.
Kobe fans coming for you, blaze.

[gengiskhan]

Lakers were a heartbeat away from getting Wade to join the Lakers in 04 for Shaq. Kobe was furious the Lakers could only get Caron Butler. No one knew for sure Wade was going to be a superstar. I always wondered how Kobe's and Wade's legacy would have went if they had teamed up

Kobe would've ran him out of town too.

Had Wade backdoor won the FMVP over him.

Kobe is a jealous narcissist rapist.

Lets not forget that. He was extremely arrogant and selfish Bballer.

Wade is not that. One of the perks of going to NCAA and actually learning Bball IQ.

Kobe lacked that big big time. Making decisions on the court on offense when Ball in his hand.

[90sgoat]

Having watched his entire career as closely as I’d believe anyone here could say I’ll just say this….


Closest player I’ve seen to peak Jordan is peak Wade. Closest player I’ve seen to declined but still the best Jordan is peak Kobe.

And it isn’t that resume doesn’t matter for “greatest”. Thats largely what greatness is. It just doesn’t make you someone’s equal at basketball.

Style wise yes.

Peak D-Wade played and looked a lot like young MJ, but yes Kobe was second 3-peat MJ. Gilbert Arenas said the same about Kobe on a recent podcast.

Kobe never had the athleticism of Wade, never mind MJ.

[ShawkFactory]

Yea I feel like 88-93 MJ was like if you could combine peak Wade and peak Kobe into one player. Kinda wild.

Not only did Wade have the athleticism but he was an incredibly cunning passer and had long arms and a very strong upper body to finish in traffic.

His snap decision-making, whether that be where to move or pass, was off the charts.

[StrongLurk]

Wade's peak/prime has gotten underrated over time.

Injuries really took away a few elite years from Wade and he ended up getting overshadowed by Kobe and Lebron, even though Wade won a FMVP before either of them.

Wade and Kawhi are pretty similar in the sense that, at their fully healthy peaks, could be the best player in the league. But Kawhi was derailed by injuries and never quite reached the heights of Lebron/KD. Both Wade and Kawhi also have insane championship runs where they were the clear number 1 option and carried the scoring load by a large margin (2006 and 2019).

[gengiskhan]

39 YO MJ

post-knee injury. Comes off the Bench. no lift in knees.

10-3-5-1-1 @ 30%FG VS Dallas

In today's NBA, up and down running, zero defense. This is easily 18-5-8-2-2 @ 41%FG after inflation adjusting.

Look how smooth his moves are. The left hand drive. The IQ. The movements despite knee limitations.

With all those limitations (off the bench), physically. age. injury wise. 39 YO MJ is still close to Peak Prime Wade.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMJoKiY_BsE

[iamgine]

And why not. Won title at 24 years old scoring 34ppg in the finals. He better believe something lofty.

[SouBeachTalents]

39 YO MJ

post-knee injury. Comes off the Bench. no lift in knees.

10-3-5-1-1 @ 30%FG VS Dallas

In today's NBA, up and down running, zero defense. This is easily 18-5-8-2-2 @ 41%FG after inflation adjusting.

Look how smooth his moves are. The left hand drive. The IQ. The movements despite knee limitations.

With all those limitations (off the bench), physically. age. injury wise. 39 YO MJ is still close to Peak Prime Wade.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMJoKiY_BsE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yptXkLglKkA

[tpols]

À lot of you fellas are underrating Kobes athleticism. He was one of the most creative dunkers ever and posterized almost every single great shot blocker of the 2000s era. In ridiculous fashion. Super elite first step, agility, quickness, fluidity, hand eye coordination plus he was was bigger than Wade whose a shorter SG.

TBH... they're on about the same level in terms of athleticism but Wade was a master flopper. He was the original Harden in that he sought to get a whistle over a bucket a lot of the time. Still an all time great, but he was sketchy with it.

[Carbine]

There was talk of the 06 finals being rigged with how many times Wade was getting the whistle too.

I don't get the Wade closest thing to MJ either. Kobe was the closest, a lot of their moves look exactly the same. Same height, same competitiveness. Same offense....

Wade doesn't remind me of MJ at all really. But to each his own

[ILLsmak]

2006 Heat are one of the weakest champions in modern history. At least if you trust the metrics.

2005 Heat were better but got derailed by injuries.

Yea na at metrics haha.

J will / gp

Wade

Posey

Haslem

Shaq / zo

Then they could have toine in there. They didn’t have many weaknesses esp with zo and shaq both making huge impact. If anything some of their bench guys were meh, but you can make a rotation out of just those 8. Haslem and posey were role players, but championship level. The rest were stars or used to be, could kindle it for awhile. Even gp did his thing.

I put that on anything; that team was great. They might not stand up as well in modern era, but if you are protecting the paint still, they’d bang with anyone.

It’s strange metrics don’t work for them when they beat det handily and then beat dallas 4 in a row.

-Smak

[red1]

39 YO MJ

post-knee injury. Comes off the Bench. no lift in knees.

10-3-5-1-1 @ 30%FG VS Dallas

In today's NBA, up and down running, zero defense. This is easily 18-5-8-2-2 @ 41%FG after inflation adjusting.

Look how smooth his moves are. The left hand drive. The IQ. The movements despite knee limitations.

With all those limitations (off the bench), physically. age. injury wise. 39 YO MJ is still close to Peak Prime Wade.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMJoKiY_BsE

you're a ****ing retard.

[90sgoat]

39 YO MJ is still close to Peak Prime Wade.


What is obvious from the video is how good and willing a passer MJ is.

He could probably play PF today at age 39.

[ShawkFactory]

À lot of you fellas are underrating Kobes athleticism. He was one of the most creative dunkers ever and posterized almost every single great shot blocker of the 2000s era. In ridiculous fashion. Super elite first step, agility, quickness, fluidity, hand eye coordination plus he was was bigger than Wade whose a shorter SG.

TBH... they're on about the same level in terms of athleticism but Wade was a master flopper. He was the original Harden in that he sought to get a whistle over a bucket a lot of the time. Still an all time great, but he was sketchy with it.

Kobe was a great athlete and incredibly fluid no doubt. But Wade’s strength and explosiveness was greater.

Also Wade did this a lot, but I feel like Kobe almost invented the pump fake then jump forward into someone to draw a foul.

I think Wade had a slightly higher court IQ as well.

[GOBB]

This dude is straight traumatized from online bullying.

Hella sad.

Boasting about bullying someone on a message board in 2024 is not a flex. Do better my guy.

[red1]

Boasting about bullying someone on a message board in 2024 is not a flex. Do better my guy.

:oldlol:


Ain't that the truth. Unemployed losers bragging about arguing online. :oldlol:

[sdot_thadon]

Having watched his entire career as closely as I’d believe anyone here could say I’ll just say this….


Closest player I’ve seen to peak Jordan is peak Wade. Closest player I’ve seen to declined but still the best Jordan is peak Kobe.

And it isn’t that resume doesn’t matter for “greatest”. Thats largely what greatness is. It just doesn’t make you someone’s equal at basketball.

Yeah, agree I've always thought something along these lines between the 2 stylistically for sure. On a side note I always insisted early on in Kobe's career that he was a caricature of MJ's 2nd 3peat game in the sense that he took some aspects of Mjs game/personality to overboard levels.


À lot of you fellas are underrating Kobes athleticism. He was one of the most creative dunkers ever and posterized almost every single great shot blocker of the 2000s era. In ridiculous fashion. Super elite first step, agility, quickness, fluidity, hand eye coordination plus he was was bigger than Wade whose a shorter SG.

TBH... they're on about the same level in terms of athleticism but Wade was a master flopper. He was the original Harden in that he sought to get a whistle over a bucket a lot of the time. Still an all time great, but he was sketchy with it.

Yeah maybe you're right as far as his athleticism being underrated but a easy to observe difference that let you know he was in a complete different tier than Mike as an athlete was we saw all the fancy handles and moves he used even as a young player. Well he had to be all the way in his bag to get contested shots off at times whereas Mj was one or 2 solid moves in most cases and he had separation to shoot clean looks more often than not. Of course you could chalk it up to the rest of the league being better athletes in Kobe's era too, but most aren't willing to concede that. Then you look up and see young Lebron rocket-shipping past guys from the 3point line with basic handles from a stationary dribble in the same era.


39 YO MJ

post-knee injury. Comes off the Bench. no lift in knees.

10-3-5-1-1 @ 30%FG VS Dallas

In today's NBA, up and down running, zero defense. This is easily 18-5-8-2-2 @ 41%FG after inflation adjusting.

Look how smooth his moves are. The left hand drive. The IQ. The movements despite knee limitations.

With all those limitations (off the bench), physically. age. injury wise. 39 YO MJ is still close to Peak Prime Wade.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMJoKiY_BsE
Crack is a helluva drug my friend.

[Real14]

:lol:oldlol::roll:

[1987_Lakers]

Yeah, agree I've always thought something along these lines between the 2 stylistically for sure. On a side note I always insisted early on in Kobe's career that he was a caricature of MJ's 2nd 3peat game in the sense that he took some aspects of Mjs game/personality to overboard levels.

This doesn't get talked about enough. The way Kobe copied some of MJ's mannerisms off the court was kinda weird. He was the original Stan.

[sdot_thadon]

This doesn't get talked about enough. The way Kobe copied some of MJ's mannerisms off the court was kinda weird. He was the original Stan.

No doubt, but young me loved the fact that he was jordanesqe even if it was coverband Mj lol. As I grew into adulthood it was kinda cringe but at the same time smart because he followed the blueprint of the guy considered best up to that point. What we can't ever knock is how hard Kobe worked to be what he ended up as. Alot of these greats left possibility on the table Kobe was the 1st to ever max them out imo.

[Phoenix]

I was watching some 09 Wade highlights recently, dude was dunking everything that year. Interestingly, as explosive as he was his vertical was only around 36-38 inches. His armlength is crazy and his in-air control and flexibility is all-time level.

As for the Jordan comparison, in terms of two-way play I think 09 Wade got the closest to 88-93 MJ.

[eliteballer]

With or without HGH?

[kawhileonard2]

https://youtu.be/fxoJUb14xV0?si=1k5MDp1WRc5vzpkT



Whole interview but that discussion is around 12 minutes in.

He does his best not to get into rankings but he eventually acknowledged it. 05-2011 Wade….I can see why he’d think that.

Can't lose series with HCA nor win bronze medal for america if you after MJ.

[sdot_thadon]

Can't lose series with HCA nor win bronze medal for america if you after MJ.

:roll:wtf HCA

[gengiskhan]

This doesn't get talked about enough. The way Kobe copied some of MJ's mannerisms off the court was kinda weird. He was the original Stan.

no doubt....

he crashed and burned and even sacrificed his own daughter just to become AIR Jordan.

There is no better imposter than our beloved Rapist.

[Big_Dogg]

MJ and Kobe are still talked about today and are basically the measuring stick for SG's, Wade, while great in his own right is nothing more than an honourable mention or a footnote in SG history, not in the same category.

Talking about injuries to someone who could have been in the upper echelon, you would talk about T-Mac, not D-Wade

[sdot_thadon]

no doubt....

he crashed and burned and even sacrificed his own daughter just to become AIR Jordan.

There is no better imposter than our beloved Rapist.

Stfu lunatic

[gengiskhan]

stfu lunatic

meltdown

[gengiskhan]

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[gengiskhan]

40 YO MJ

19-8-1-2-2 @ 50%FG vs '03 HEAT

Inflation adjust to today's NBA, its easily 25-9-3-3-3

To me, this version of just as good as Prime Wade.

only thing is MJ is too old, shot knees, no lift in his legs compared to Prime Wade.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxHovk59394

[ShawkFactory]

40 YO MJ

19-8-1-2-2 @ 50%FG vs '03 HEAT

Inflation adjust to today's NBA, its easily 25-9-3-3-3

To me, this version of just as good as Prime Wade.

only thing is MJ is too old, shot knees, no lift in his legs compared to Prime Wade.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxHovk59394

Gotta make yourself laugh at least.

[gengiskhan]

Gotta make yourself laugh at least.

You take this 38-40 YO MJ.

And you give back healthy, non-severed, non-injured, full strength, full range of motion, "index" shooting hand finger.....

You got 38-40 YO MJ as good as prime Wade. Bluntly speaking. MJ missed dunk and cannot control ball anymore because of "index" finger.

Wade could make all the excuses in the world he wants "before injury" blah blah.........

Give MJ back his index finger, you got prime wade as 39 YO MJ. 27 PPG before meniscus tear @ 39. 20 PPG @ 40

http://i40.servimg.com/u/f40/17/20/86/43/hand-m11.jpg

40 YO MJ missing simple dunk because improper, weak "index" finger gripping the ball.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFE_xuD_eIM

[Kblaze8855]

This doesn't get talked about enough. The way Kobe copied some of MJ's mannerisms off the court was kinda weird. He was the original Stan.

they are all just copying Dr. J. And I don’t mean game. The prototype that Jordan and then Grant Hill and then Kobe all copied….and LeBron has some of it too. Everyone in the “The game of basketball” line. They all talk like and use phrases from Doc and Jordan started that. Kobe copied Jordans mannerisms for sure but Jordan took some of those from Doc as well. Jordan moved like David Thompson and talked like Doctor J but most now didnt see enough to realize it. At the time it was discussed quite a bit.

Jordan played a lot like David Thompson with Dr Js hands and talked just like Doctor J unless you caught him off guard. Two generations straight up stole the way Doc talked.

[dankok8]

they are all just copying Dr. J. And I don’t mean game. The prototype that Jordan and then Grant Hill and then Kobe all copied….and LeBron has some of it too. Everyone in the “The game of basketball” line. They all talk like and use phrases from Doc and Jordan started that. Kobe copied Jordans mannerisms for sure but Jordan took some of those from Doc as well. Jordan moved like David Thompson and talked like Doctor J but most now didnt see enough to realize it. At the time it was discussed quite a bit.

Jordan played a lot like David Thompson with Dr Js hands and talked just like Doctor J unless you caught him off guard. Two generations straight up stole the way Doc talked.

I actually never noticed MJ talked like the Doctor. I never paid attention to how Dr J talks in interviews and stuff.

Interesting stuff!

[gengiskhan]

I actually never noticed MJ talked like the Doctor. I never paid attention to how Dr J talks in interviews and stuff.

Interesting stuff!

in the very begining, NCAA days, there was this think carolina accent.

But MJ did some mannerism like Doctor. but not whole lot like people think.

That phrase "the game of basketball" is definitely borrowed by MJ from Doctor. no doubt.

But MJ really evolved later on. Dr was lot more refined and elegant. MJ was less refined and more aggressive language.