wow was 92 dream team competition weakest teams in last 40 years??

[And1AllDay]

https://i.postimg.cc/VNZP7Gcv/Parst1-Heemh5-Borji9-Zyrie4.jpg

is this a joke are these rosters real?

[90sgoat]

Yes, those were some pretty bad rosters.

The only two good teams were Lithuania and Croatia. The breakup of the Soviet Union hit hard.

[kawhileonard2]

Team USA won by 1 against South Sedan.

[SATAN]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/boxscores/1992-08-04-puerto-rico.html

[kawhileonard2]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/boxscores/1992-08-04-puerto-rico.html

Lebron lost by 20 vs Puerto Rico and Carlos Arroyo.

[SATAN]

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[1987_Lakers]

Over 45 NBA players are playing at the Olympics this year.

How many NBA players played at the '92 Olympics? 15?

[warriorfan]

Lebron lost by 20 vs Puerto Rico and Carlos Arroyo.

lmao

brutal

[1987_Lakers]

https://en.as.com/olympic_games/which-nba-players-are-playing-in-the-2024-olympic-games-in-paris-full-list-n/

https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/mens-olympics/1992.html

This is embarrassing. Only 2 NBA players outside of team USA in 1992. Petrovic & Schrempf. And two future NBA players in Kukoc & Sabonis.

In 2024 it's over 30 if not including Team USA.

[1987_Lakers]

On a side note, which is the best non USA team in Olympic history?

I'm guessing it has to be the 2008 Spain team.

[Carbine]

Argentina 2004

[90sgoat]

https://en.as.com/olympic_games/which-nba-players-are-playing-in-the-2024-olympic-games-in-paris-full-list-n/

https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/mens-olympics/1992.html

This is embarrassing. Only 2 NBA players outside of team USA in 1992.

You are aware that the Soviet Union did not allow their players to play in the US until after it broke apart in 1989 right?

[90sgoat]

I'm guessing it has to be the 2008 Spain team.

Yeah, that team would beat this US team.

Gasol brothers, Navarro, Fernandez, Rubio, Calderon.

[1987_Lakers]

You are aware that the Soviet Union did not allow their players to play in the US until after it broke apart in 1989 right?

I wasn't aware 1992 took place in 1989.

[jlip]

One of the funniest stories from the 1992 Olympics which demonstrates the level of international competition back then was that while "guarding" Magic an opponent was literally frantically waving at his teammate on the bench who had a camera trying to make certain he got a picture of him and Magic on the court at the same time. In 1992 opposing players from other countries were lining up for autographs like awestruck teenagers. The Dream Team was playing against "fans."

[BurningHammer]

Yeah, that team would beat this US team.

Gasol brothers, Navarro, Fernandez, Rubio, Calderon.

Also, the Golden Generation Argentina. Manu, Scola, Nocioni, Delfino, Oberto, Herrman.

[90sgoat]

I wasn't aware 1992 took place in 1989.

I imagine the bureaucracy had to be insane back in the day even after the fall of the Soviet Union, but maybe teams just weren't wiling to pay the bribes.

[90sgoat]

One of the funniest stories from the 1992 Olympics which demonstrates the level of international competition back then was that while "guarding" Magic an opponent was literally frantically waving at his teammate on the bench who had a camera trying to make certain he got a picture of him and Magic on the court at the same time. In 1992 opposing players from other countries were lining up for autographs like awestruck teenagers. The Dream Team was playing against "fans."

Yes, it was embarassing maybe, if you were an adult.

If you were a child outside the US, I guarantee you it was the greatest thing you ever saw. I watched them play on a tiny antenna tv while at vacation and it made me want nothing more than to play basketball. It was crazy. One of those experiences of a lifetime. And it created generations of european basketballers.

As an adult you understand the bigger picture, finally supposedly we see the US vs the world in this competition, but really, it was also a way of saying the US won. The US defeated the commies. Here we are, we're so much better than you. Now watch Arnie and Stallone in a movie this summer.

It sucks the US wasted that cultural capital by unilaterally bombing Serbia, but that's another issue.

[MrFonzworth]

OP is over 300lbs.

[Phoenix]

Funny enough USA vs Angola popped up on my youtube feed a few days ago, so I watched it until the score was like 90-42 or something like that. Man that was ugly.... Angola couldn't shoot, the ballhandlers couldn't get around MJ and Pippen if they were defending them, and good luck with Ewing and Robinson contesting anything within 5 feet of the rim.

That team would have been even crazier had they gone with Shaq over Laettner, and replaced Magic/Bird with like Isiah and Nique.

[Carbine]

Why are you highlighting Magic as someone to replace?

He shot 57 percent from the field and 46 from deep in the Olympics. 5.5 assists a game in 18 minutes a game (team leader in minutes was MJ at 23)

[Phoenix]

Why are you highlighting Magic as someone to replace?

He shot 57 percent from the field and 46 from deep in the Olympics. 5.5 assists a game in 18 minutes a game (team leader in minutes was MJ at 23)


7 players had higher percentages that that on more shot attempts, so there's nothing exceptional about that number when you add a degree of context. I get why both he and Bird were on the team, I'm just saying at that point in their basketball careers there were other choices that would have made the USA team even more devastating( not that they needed to be given the chasm in talent back then).

[Carbine]

Magic was actually third in efficiency with basically 70 TS

[Phoenix]

Magic was actually third in efficiency with basically 70 TS

Well you first quoted his field goal percentage and now you're turning to TS% lol but ok, regardless he took 5 shots a game. That's pretty much at the level of his scoring contributions being a bonus, he wasn't looking to score and really wasn't needed to.

[And1AllDay]

wow how did the dream ream win by 30 against juan, albert, jose, jose, jose, andres, rafa and santi. amazun!

[And1AllDay]

OP is over 300lbs.

"we're alaskans" :oldlol:

lol at this alaskan

'im an alaskan' :oldlol:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vlUXCrAwDhE

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/p9sbcAJMq1g

found fonzwrthless :oldlol: is this you and your fam?
https://i.postimg.cc/C5Gm546Y/fonzwrth.jpg[

[Carbine]

Well you first quoted his field goal percentage and now you're turning to TS% lol but ok, regardless he took 5 shots a game. That's pretty much at the level of his scoring contributions being a bonus, he wasn't looking to score and really wasn't needed to.

Exactly. What is Isiah going to do that would make them more devastating?

Isiah was pretty washed at that point compared to what he was. He was entering his final two years of his career at that point and the efficiency dropped off a cliff and his playoff performance was awful.

I just don't see what Isiah is going to do that's noticeably better at that point in his career. Magic was a better shooter, better passer.

[Phoenix]

Exactly. What is Isiah going to do that would make them more devastating?

Isiah was pretty washed at that point compared to what he was. He was entering his final two years of his career at that point and the efficiency dropped off a cliff and his playoff performance was awful.

I just don't see what Isiah is going to do that's noticeably better at that point in his career. Magic was a better shooter, better passer.

I would say somewhat less washed than what Magic would have been at that point if you're going by respective primes, but if you want to split hairs between those two, they could have gone with Tim Hardaway or KJ in 92. Point is 92 Magic isn't the best option the U.S Team had at their disposal. And ditto for Bird who could barely run up the floor by then. I'm not sure if Dominique was fully recovered by summer 92 but he would have added more scoring punch and perimeter athleticism over a near 36 year old busted back Bird. It's pretty widely understood that they were mostly ceremonial choices and having the novelty of MJ/Magic/Bird being on the same team.

[Carbine]

You said it yourself, they didn't need scoring punch. Dominique is a phenomenal first option scorer only type in the NBA.

On a team where he is way down the pecking order it becomes redundant. He would be shooting the ball 7 times a game, not 25.

Magic was a facilitator, which is also why Pippen worked so well on the Olympic team. They complimented the games of the 4-5 big time scorers they had, instead of taking shots away from them they added to them.

Same could be said for Bird, it's about team construction not how many dominant scorers you can field on a team.

[Phoenix]

You said it yourself, they didn't need scoring punch. Dominique is a phenomenal first option scorer only type in the NBA.

On a team where he is way down the pecking order it becomes redundant. He would be shooting the ball 7 times a game, not 25.

Magic was a facilitator, which is also why Pippen worked so well on the Olympic team. They complimented the games of the 4-5 big time scorers they had, instead of taking shots away from them they added to them.

Same could be said for Bird, it's about team construction not how many dominant scorers you can field on a team.

Doubtful. Just off the fast break opportunities Nique would have probably been one of the leading scorers. Jordan and Barkley were the only ones on the team taking double digit attempts. Bird only took 6 shot attempts hobbling up and down the floor and similarly to Magic, was moreso picking his spots. Nique would have been probably more in the 9-10 attempts range and a finishing target on the break. Not sure how much facilitating credit you're giving Bird who averaged 1.8 assists on that team.

Isiah was one of the best PGs at balancing scoring and passing, he could have played a facilitator role if needed. Yeah he was past his prime but was still an all-star in 92 putting up 19 and 7. Magic was a year removed from high level competition. But since you're not sold on Isiah, the aforementioned Tim Hardaway or KJ were among the league leaders in assists and were more than capable of playing set-up guys. Either of those two would have been perfectly viable selections.

Also I'd say you're overselling how perfect the roster construction needed to be back then. The world was so far from the USA in talent in 92 that they had a much greater margin of error in terms of team composition than they do today.

[dankok8]

Radja (Croatia)
Petrovic (Croatia)
Kukoc (Croatia)
Tabak (Croatia)
Sabonis (Lithuania)
Longley (Australia)
Scrempf (Germany)
Volkov (Russia)
Schmidt (Brazil)

All pretty well accomplished players and played in the NBA (minus Oscar Schmidt) but I bet OP has no clue who they are.

Yugoslavia was also a monster team in 1992, quite probably the best after the US, but they were banned from the tournament.

Also a lot of Euros back then didn't want to play in the NBA. The likes of Schmidt, Bodiroga etc. Even Sabonis got over pretty late outside of his prime.

And a lot of others were naturalized and became Americans even though there were international players. Like Hakeem (Nigeria), Ewing (Jamaica) and Mutombo (Congo). Those three today probably play for their nations inflating the number of international players.

[RRR3]

Radja (Croatia)
Petrovic (Croatia)
Kukoc (Croatia)
Tabak (Croatia)
Sabonis (Lithuania)
Longley (Australia)
Scrempf (Germany)
Volkov (Russia)
Schmidt (Brazil)

All pretty well accomplished players and played in the NBA (minus Oscar Schmidt) but I bet OP has no clue who they are.

Yugoslavia was also a monster team in 1992, quite probably the best after the US, but they were banned from the tournament.

Also a lot of Euros back then didn't want to play in the NBA. The likes of Schmidt, Bodiroga etc. Even Sabonis got over pretty late outside of his prime.

And a lot of others were naturalized and became Americans even though there were international players. Like Hakeem (Nigeria), Ewing (Jamaica) and Mutombo (Congo). Those three today probably play for their nations inflating the number of international players.
Talking about Luc Longley, Zan Tabak and Alexander Volkov as if they weren't scrubs is nasty work. Fair enough on the other guys though.

[dankok8]

Talking about Luc Longley, Zan Tabak and Alexander Volkov as if they weren't scrubs is nasty work. Fair enough on the other guys though.

Longley was a solid starting C. No way anyone should call him a scrub.

Tabak always got injured by the time he got to the NBA but had a lot of talent. Definitely not a scrub.

Volkov was a key player for the Soviet team that beat the US in the 1988 Olympics. The team that had David Robinson, Danny Manning, Mitch Richmond... I don't remember him playing but I've heard of him. When I looked at the Olympic rosters I recognized him. Potential scrub LOL

[Nowoco]

I've heard some ridiculous opinions about the 1992 Dream Team but saying Magic shouldnt have been on it is probably the worst. He was their most important player, particularly off the court. He was the catalyst to getting all the stars to play by being the first to commit. He was also exactly what they needed on the court. Selfless and getting everyone involved so no-one was stepping on anyone's toes.

I also wish people would shut up about Laettner being selected over Shaq. It's pure monday morning quarterbacking. LSU did shit in the NCAA. Laettner was by far the best college player in the world. Both by play, stats and achievements. He fully deserved to be on the team as the college player and what he did or didnt do, or what Shaq did in the NBA doesnt change that.

[RRR3]

Longley was a solid starting C. No way anyone should call him a scrub.

Tabak always got injured by the time he got to the NBA but had a lot of talent. Definitely not a scrub.

Volkov was a key player for the Soviet team that beat the US in the 1988 Olympics. The team that had David Robinson, Danny Manning, Mitch Richmond... I don't remember him playing but I've heard of him. When I looked at the Olympic rosters I recognized him. Potential scrub LOL
Tabak was a scrub in the NBA, he may have been good before his injuries, can't speak to that, but his NBA stats are...not good.

How was Longley solid? His efficiency was genuinely horrifying for a center (-5 rTS% career), which was compounded by the fact that he didn't even shoot much, and he rebounded very poorly for his size. I've never heard anyone say he was a great defender, either. Unless he was a great defender, he looks pretty scrubtastic to me. I always see MJ and Bulls fans saying he sucked too.

[j3lademaster]

The global talent just wasn’t there in the 90’s.

[Phoenix]

Saying that Magic wasn't the best ( as far as floor performance) available PG the US had at their disposal in 92 doesn't equate, or intended to infer, that he had absolutely no business being on the team. For intangible reasons, for leadership reasons, for whatever else one wants to throw in there...I get why he was on the team. But hey it's the internet so lets instead warp 9 to the most extreme conclusions, shall we?

Laettner was a great college player backed by great talent and coaching on that Duke team. I don't know how one attempts to measure what he did in college vs Shaq as a barometer for who would have been the more effective FIBA Olympics player in 92 without bringing that into the equation. There's a reason Laettner was picked third in the draft behind 2 players who did less than him in college from an accolades standpoint.

[Carbine]

Magic backed it up with his play. I don't think anyone is out producing a 70 TS scoring efficiency while average 5 assists (only behind Pippen) in 18 mpg. Those are elite numbers. Magic was still that guy (as evidence by only one talking shit to Jordan in practice)

[Carbine]

I wonder why the anti Jordan crowd hasn't latched onto his 1992 Olympic stats. I don't think I've ever heard mention of them.

He has a 49 TS percentage while most everyone else was enjoying significant bumps in their efficiency on the team.

[RRR3]

I wonder why the anti Jordan crowd hasn't latched onto his 1992 Olympic stats. I don't think I've ever heard mention of them.

He has a 49 TS percentage while most everyone else was enjoying significant bumps in their efficiency on the team.
At least on this board people mostly just shit on MJ because 3ball is so annoying. And 3ball doesn't talk about the Olympics.

[Nowoco]

I wonder why the anti Jordan crowd hasn't latched onto his 1992 Olympic stats. I don't think I've ever heard mention of them.

He has a 49 TS percentage while most everyone else was enjoying significant bumps in their efficiency on the team.

Jordan was inefficient on offense (by his own standards) but was a monster on defense. He averaged 7 steals per 36 minutes, light years ahead of anyone else at the 92 Olympics.

He was also unselfish. Putting up 8 assists per 36 (5th in tournament).

[Carbine]

I have a hard time saying Jordan was unselfish.

He lead the team by a wide margin in FG attempts, while being the least efficient scorer on the team. This is classic chucking.

He was not only inefficient for his own standards, he was inefficient by Allen Iverson standards. But he still kept jacking those shots up....

[Da_Realist]

I have a hard time saying Jordan was unselfish.

He lead the team by a wide margin in FG attempts, while being the least efficient scorer on the team. This is classic chucking.

He was not only inefficient for his own standards, he was inefficient by Allen Iverson standards. But he still kept jacking those shots up....

Everyone tuned in to watch Jordan play. He knew this so he was trying to put on a show even after sometimes getting no sleep after gambling all night and playing golf almost up to game time. This in a tournament where USA was perpetually up by 80 points. The stats really don't mean anything.

[RRR3]

Everyone tuned in to watch Jordan play. He knew this so he was trying to put on a show even after sometimes getting no sleep after gambling all night and playing golf almost up to game time. This in a tournament where USA was perpetually up by 80 points. The stats really don't mean anything.
49 TS% against milkmen and plumbers :oldlol:

[SATAN]

Everyone tuned in to watch Jordan play. He knew this so he was trying to put on a show even after sometimes getting no sleep after gambling all night and playing golf almost up to game time. This in a tournament where USA was perpetually up by 80 points. The stats really don't mean anything.

It's ok to admit Jordan isn't perfect ffs. You put 3ball to shame. :oldlol:

[Da_Realist]

It's called context. Something you guys are allergic to.

[Da_Realist]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Upwldffdl30&t=26m5s

Who was the scariest mf'er in that game (Dream Team vs the college practice squad)?

Webber: "Jordan. Jordan. Jordan. Jordan. Jordan."

When it mattered against real competition, Jordan shined. Playing against Angola didn't bring out the same intensity. That's why the his stats didn't really matter. He was on vacation. It wasn't competitive enough to bring out his best.

[r0drig0lac]

On a side note, which is the best non USA team in Olympic history?

I'm guessing it has to be the 2008 Spain team.

Yugo 02 - Jaric/Bodiroga/Peja/Gurovic/Divac

Argentina 02-04 - Pepe/Manu/Noccioni/Scola/Oberto imo

[dankok8]

Tabak was a scrub in the NBA, he may have been good before his injuries, can't speak to that, but his NBA stats are...not good.

How was Longley solid? His efficiency was genuinely horrifying for a center (-5 rTS% career), which was compounded by the fact that he didn't even shoot much, and he rebounded very poorly for his size. I've never heard anyone say he was a great defender, either. Unless he was a great defender, he looks pretty scrubtastic to me. I always see MJ and Bulls fans saying he sucked too.

Yea and those Jordan fans would be wrong. Longley was a solid C in the league. Not a star but he held his own most of the time.

[RRR3]

Yea and those Jordan fans would be wrong. Longley was a solid C in the league. Not a star but he held his own most of the time.
What was he good at? Rotten at scoring, rotten at rebounding, so he had to have been a great defender to make up for that, but I've never heard him described as such. I'm far from an MJ stan, but I don't think MJ fans are wrong about Longley.

[Kblaze8855]

Tabak was a scrub in the NBA, he may have been good before his injuries, can't speak to that, but his NBA stats are...not good.



Vspan shot 32% and 17% from 3 in the nba and still took apart Paul, Wade, Lebron, Melo, and Dwight.

What you do in the nba isn’t necessarily the best way to judge how good you are at basketball. The nba isn’t traditional basketball. Less so now than ever.

[And1AllDay]

49 TS% against milkmen and plumbers :oldlol:

cooked that boi

[WhiteKyrie]

Yes, the Dream Team was the inspiration for more European players to get into basketball. This should be obvious, that doesn’t mean the quality of the dream team itself wasn’t good. Even though Bird was done, Magic was rusty, and Stockton was playing hurt. The team could’ve been even better. Croatia was nice though. And this was before the NBA was really dipping into the European talent pool super heavy. Sabonis, Petrovic, Kukoc, were all quality players that inspired NBA scouts to take Euros more seriously as talent. I know OP is a troll, but you can’t be this remedial

[sdot_thadon]

When we send the entire all nba team or a huge chunk of it we blow teams away. Especially when theres only like 5 nba role players in the rest of the pool. When we send a few we get close games. So maybe relative to talent the talent pool you can have that discussion.

[Manny98]

https://i.postimg.cc/VNZP7Gcv/Parst1-Heemh5-Borji9-Zyrie4.jpg

is this a joke are these rosters real?
Yikes :roll:

[And1AllDay]

team usa versus international olympics
gold medal match

usa
jordan magic bird barkley stockton malone

vs

alberto andres jordi juan juan juan xavi santi

:oldlol: wow i wonder how the dream team was able to won each game :oldlol:

[gengiskhan]

The "world" caught up to Team USA in 1988 itself!

Team USA finished at the 3rd place just like LeBronze! :oldlol: :banana:


USA Basketball Team Results at the 1988 Olympic Games
This list has all the results from the games played by the USA National Team in the basketball tournament of the 1988 Olympics with stages, dates, scores, boxscores and more.
Game Date Stage Results
1. Sep 18, 1988 First Round, Group B USA USA 97 - 53 Spain Spain
2. Sep 20, 1988 First Round, Group B USA USA 76 - 70 Canada Canada
3. Sep 21, 1988 First Round, Group B USA USA 102 - 87 Brazil Brazil
4. Sep 23, 1988 First Round, Group B USA USA 108 - 57 China China
5. Sep 24, 1988 First Round, Group B USA USA 102 - 35 Egypt Egypt
6. Sep 26, 1988 1/4 Finals USA USA 94 - 57 Puerto Rico Puerto Rico

7. Sep 28, 1988 Semifinals USA USA 76 - 82 Soviet Union Soviet Union :lol

8. Sep 29, 1988 3rd Place Game USA USA 78 - 49 Australia Australia :roll:

[WhiteKyrie]

1988 was against our college players. Four years prior college Michael Jordan was an outlier leading them to gold over European professionals and grown men if we sent our best roster that we sent in 1992, would’ve been in their prime and would’ve been even more dominant

[gengiskhan]

1988 was against our college players. Four years prior college Michael Jordan was an outlier leading them to gold over European professionals and grown men if we sent our best roster that we sent in 1992, would’ve been in their prime and would’ve been even more dominant

well said.

1984 Amateur 21 YO MJ = G.O.L.D. :cheers:

1988 MINUS MJ = B.R.O.N.Z.E.

1992 PRO MJ = G.O.L.D. numero dos. :cheers:

2004 LBJ = L.e.B.R.O.N.Z.E. :roll:

2024 PRO LBJ = L.e.B.R.O.N.Z.E....................loading! :lol

[And1AllDay]

gold medal match

usa
jordan magic bird barkley stockton malone

vs

alberto andres jordi juan juan juan xavi santi

:oldlol: wow i wonder how the dream team won each game :oldlol:

[gengiskhan]

gold medal match

usa
jordan magic bird barkley stockton malone

vs

alberto andres jordi juan juan juan xavi santi

:oldlol: wow i wonder how the dream team won each game :oldlol:

MELTDOWN. :roll:

[RRR3]

MELTDOWN. :roll:
MJ in the clutch against the Pistons: EIGHT POINTS.

[ILLsmak]

Dream team introduced the world to bball. I bet all the international legends got love for them. The only sad part is we aren’t better than dudes now. We should be 15-20 pt favs vs everyone. Should be like the high seeds in the ncaa tourney, maybe close for 10-15 min then coast. Once in a blue moon we barely win.

South Sudan tho.

-Smak