kobes 09' ring better then any mikey ring?

[And1AllDay]

i put up kobes 09' ring better then any mikey ring

32/6/7 vs hall of famer dwight howard at peak of his powers with hedo and nelson and gortat and rashard lewis prime

howard, lewis, hedo, nelson, gortat, reddick

better ring and stats then any mikey finals win vs plumbers and oil changers

[Carbine]

You need to go back in the lab and upgrade your trolling

[SouBeachTalents]

You need to go back in the lab and upgrade your trolling
For real, if you're going to troll, at least be funny or at least somewhat original. This is just boring.

[gengiskhan]

i put up kobes 09' ring better then any mikey ring

32/6/7 vs hall of famer dwight howard at peak of his powers with hedo and nelson and gortat and rashard lewis prime

howard, lewis, hedo, nelson, gortat, reddick

better ring and stats then any mikey finals win vs plumbers and oil changers

Rapist!

k------ his daughter!

snitched on Shaq.

Back stabbed big bro that spoon fed him 3 rings.

crashed and burned and turned like crisp kobe beef in his own Back yard BBQ.

called "cancer" and "uncoachable" by Greatest Coach ever, Phil Jackson in his book.

team sabotour in 2004 NBA finals.

greatest choke job in NBA finals history in 2008 finals.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aameXUCbgVM

[tpols]

Rapist!

k------ his daughter!

snitched on Shaq.

Back stabbed big bro that spoon fed him 3 rings.

crashed and burned and turned like crisp kobe beef in his own Back yard BBQ.

called "cancer" and "uncoachable" by Greatest Coach ever, Phil Jackson in his book.

team sabotour in 2004 NBA finals.

greatest choke job in NBA finals history in 2008 finals.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aameXUCbgVM



I mean Kobe died in an accident... there was nothing purposeful about it.

Jordan OTOH had his father directly murdered over his gambling debts and what he owed mob guys. And he got kicked out of the league for it by David Stern.

That's some hardcore scumbag shit.



I think we all just have to accept Kobe was like... the evolution of MJ.

Kobe was Jordan with a modern much more sophisticated handle, better shooting, and even more skilled and disciplined and focused on basketball and not gambling, golf and baseball.

Is what it is, you feel me?

[red1]

2009 ring was a great ring because the nuggets were great competition in the west


that team couldve knocked them off. they had the right combination of super talented idiots like prime melo and birdman and jr and veteran presence in billups and kmart. I thought melo and chauncey would beat the lakers that year.


definitely kobe's best ring. yes better than 2001 where he was nearly 1b with the best in the league.

[RRR3]

Kobe was just better than MJ, he actually played and produced in the modern era and not against milkmen and plumbers. MJ would be Dion Waiters today.

[And1AllDay]

Kobe was just better than MJ, he actually played and produced in the modern era and not against milkmen and plumbers. MJ would be Dion Waiters today.

+1

mikey era is way more like bill russell / dolph schayes then the skilled kobe / bron modern era

[red1]

after all of the recent scrutinizing of baldan's career since the puff piece "last dance" you realize baldan and kobe are much closer than the baldan loving media will lead you to believe


I have kobe and baldan as a complete toss-up :applause:

[ImKobe]

Nope, but it's on par or better than any of the 2nd 3-Peat Jordan ones. Kobe's WCF against Denver was peak Jordan stuff.

[plowking]

If you look at Kobe's final competition - it is actually historically bad.

Dwight Magic, Pacers, Philly and the Nets...

These are some of the worst teams to ever make the finals.

[warriorfan]

If you look at Kobe's final competition - it is actually historically bad.

Dwight Magic, Pacers, Philly and the Nets...

These are some of the worst teams to ever make the finals.

bron got straight cooked by the dwight magic

even when they were missing their all star point guard jameer nelson and had to use a And1 player at point

(jameer nelson returned in time to play in the NBA Finals though)

[tpols]

If you look at Kobe's final competition - it is actually historically bad.

Dwight Magic, Pacers, Philly and the Nets...

These are some of the worst teams to ever make the finals.

Well yea... we've always told you guys the Kobe Shaq 3peat the real competition was out west ie ~ Blazers, Spurs, and Kings. But you fellas hated on Kobe for not winning FMVP vs weak teams. Ironic.

When Shaq left he had to face the stacked Celtics twice and the Magic all of whom beat Lebron. Which is again ironic... Kobe beat all the teams LeBron lost to and Bron had HCA against the 2009 Magic and 2010 Celtics.

[warriorfan]

Well yea... we've always told you guys the Kobe Shaq 3peat the real competition was out west ie ~ Blazers, Spurs, and Kings. But you fellas hated on Kobe for not winning FMVP vs weak teams. Ironic.

When Shaq left he had to face the stacked Celtics twice and the Magic all of whom beat Lebron. Which is again ironic... Kobe beat all the teams LeBron lost to and Bron had HCA against the 2009 Magic and 2010 Celtics.

Bron stans: “Dwight magic were stacked bro. Lewis? Courtney Lee? HEDO!!! They were studs.”

also Bron stans: “Kobe’s rings suck. He was second fiddle to Pau Gasol and Dwight and the Magic were TRASH!!!”

:lol

[Airupthere]

Bron stans: “Dwight magic were stacked bro. Lewis? Courtney Lee? HEDO!!! They were studs.”

also Bron stans: “Kobe’s rings suck. He was second fiddle to Pau Gasol and Dwight and the Magic were TRASH!!!”

:lol

To be fair, jameer was barea like. May have been just a matchup issue with bron.

[gengiskhan]

If you look at Kobe's final competition - it is actually historically bad.

Dwight Magic, Pacers, Philly and the Nets...

These are some of the worst teams to ever make the finals.

East Conference in general was pathetic.

Reason Dwight even made it to NBA Finals thanks to injured '09 celtics.

Nets were just about decent thanks to Kidds passing ability but no where solid, elite team.

Philly were just plain above ave. chucking 6'0" kobe with old, geriatric Motombo. and garbage snow.

Pacers were only good ones. Even 2001 Pacers were way below 1998 Pacers, the latter being the best team of Pacers franchise ever!.

Many still consider. 1998 Bulls vs Pacers was the real NBA finals. Reason it went Game 7. Pacers were just a better team that should've won it all.

[ImKobe]

If you look at Kobe's final competition - it is actually historically bad.

Dwight Magic, Pacers, Philly and the Nets...

These are some of the worst teams to ever make the finals.

2009 ECF is still one of the biggest upsets ever in terms of betting odds going into the series lmao.

[WhiteKyrie]

2009 was Kobe’s best Finals, and it’s about equal statistically with MJ’s 1997 Finals, but MJ was more efficient. Jordan faced a superior Finals opponent. And that was MJ’s 4th best Finals performance ever, so, umm, no.

[RRR3]

2009 was Kobe’s best Finals, and it’s about equal statistically with MJ’s 1997 Finals, but MJ was more efficient. Jordan faced a superior Finals opponent. And that was MJ’s 4th best Finals performance ever, so, umm, no.
MJ wasn't even guarded on his jumpers and zone defense was illegal, easy to be more efficient. Kobe would have averaged 50 in MJ's era.

[gengiskhan]

2009 was Kobe’s best Finals, and it’s about equal statistically with MJ’s 1997 Finals, but MJ was more efficient. Jordan faced a superior Finals opponent. And that was MJ’s 4th best Finals performance ever, so, umm, no.

Kobe's entire career is fake, propped up, artificially created hot air.

His 2004 NBA finals performance alone tells us how overrated his entire career is.

How can any decent good player let along ATG loose an NBA final with peak prime Shaq with Malone and Payton added to a "super duper team" is beyond me.

Just imagine an extreme, ultra selfish, narcissism required to deliberately ignore NBA's dominant big men he is gifted to play with in their prime and chuck and chuck and chuck at 37%FG.

LBJ 2011 Finals or Kobe's 2004 Finals. pick one. if you ever have to see how overrated and pathetic both are.

I say Kobe's was the worst. Because he had NBAs most dominant Big men in prime Shaq. Winning is lot lot easier when you are balling with Top 10 GOATs in Shaq.

then there is 2008 Kobe, again, chucking chucking chucking. no clue how to win. how to get NBAs dominant big men like Gasol and Bynum involved. Just because he won 2008 MVP, he thinks, 2008 Celtics with reigning DPOY will just fold in 6 or 7 games.

never seen more arrogant, pompous, ultra selfish, superstar ever. Had he not been a LAL, Media would've destroyed Kobe like Kyrie in no time.

LAL has a history of protecting their ATGs reputation. Be it Kareem or Kobe or LBJ.

Even his Raping is now swept under the rug. Can you imagine if MJ or Pippen or Wade raped. We will never hear the end of it till now.

Just look at gambling and MJ. Fans still act like he violated someone with an assault with his gambling. Even his father's highway robbery, car theft and death is deliberately pinned on MJ gambling.

Be it doping with PEDs or raping or racist comments, LAL protected Kareem, Kobe and LBJ very well. and will continue to do so.

The more LALs are inserted into NBA Top 10 GOATs, the happier NBA and LAL will be. An age old play book stuff.

[gengiskhan]

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[gengiskhan]

MJ wasn't even guarded on his jumpers and zone defense was illegal, easy to be more efficient. Kobe would have averaged 50 in MJ's era.

check out your BrickBe 28 missed FGA marathon.

enjoy DeadBe's wide open, extra dribble awarded by zone defense, measured, AT HOME (where he practices hours on both rims), zone defense FG bricks.

The most overrated, polarizing, selfish chucking business that summarizes his entire career in pathetic attempt to "be like mike"

those VHS tapes of MJ Come Fly with me, Air Time and Play Ground that Kobe watched with italian language back home in Italy never ever stopped playing in BrickBe's head. They were on auto rewind in his brain.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ9CUYf6fYU

[RRR3]

Kobe's entire career is fake, propped up, artificially created hot air.

His 2004 NBA finals performance alone tells us how overrated his entire career is.

How can any decent good player let along ATG loose an NBA final with peak prime Shaq with Malone and Payton added to a "super duper team" is beyond me.

Just imagine an extreme, ultra selfish, narcissism required to deliberately ignore NBA's dominant big men he is gifted to play with in their prime and chuck and chuck and chuck at 37%FG.

LBJ 2011 Finals or Kobe's 2004 Finals. pick one. if you ever have to see how overrated and pathetic both are.

I say Kobe's was the worst. Because he had NBAs most dominant Big men in prime Shaq. Winning is lot lot easier when you are balling with Top 10 GOATs in Shaq.

then there is 2008 Kobe, again, chucking chucking chucking. no clue how to win. how to get NBAs dominant big men like Gasol and Bynum involved. Just because he won 2008 MVP, he thinks, 2008 Celtics with reigning DPOY will just fold in 6 or 7 games.

never seen more arrogant, pompous, ultra selfish, superstar ever. Had he not been a LAL, Media would've destroyed Kobe like Kyrie in no time.

LAL has a history of protecting their ATGs reputation. Be it Kareem or Kobe or LBJ.

Even his Raping is now swept under the rug. Can you imagine if MJ or Pippen or Wade raped. We will never hear the end of it till now.

Just look at gambling and MJ. Fans still act like he violated someone with an assault with his gambling. Even his father's highway robbery, car theft and death is deliberately pinned on MJ gambling.

Be it doping with PEDs or raping or racist comments, LAL protected Kareem, Kobe and LBJ very well. and will continue to do so.

The more LALs are inserted into NBA Top 10 GOATs, the happier NBA and LAL will be. An age old play book stuff.
If Kobe played in MJ's era he would have won 12 rings.

[And1AllDay]

If Kobe played in MJ's era he would have won 12 rings.

100% becos he aint quitting to kill his dad and gamble his life away with cigars

hes dedicated to the game and would rip off ez 8 chips hes not weak like lil mikey da quitter

[WhiteKyrie]

MJ wasn't even guarded on his jumpers and zone defense was illegal, easy to be more efficient. Kobe would have averaged 50 in MJ's era.

First of all, absolutely not. Stop the trolling and cap. But given that asinine logic or lack there of that means LeBron’s 2012, 2013 and 2016 championships suck because they’ve literally asked him to shoot it. Literally begged him wide open?

[RRR3]

First of all, absolutely not. Stop the trolling and cap. But given that asinine logic or lack there of that means LeBron’s 2012, 2013 and 2016 championships suck because they’ve literally asked him to shoot it. Literally begged him wide open?
We saw the tape, pops, MJ didn't even get guarded from midrange, and there were no double teams to speak of, MILK MAN ERA!!!! WE DONE WITH THE 90s!!!!

[And1AllDay]

First of all, absolutely not. Stop the trolling and cap. But given that asinine logic or lack there of that means LeBron’s 2012, 2013 and 2016 championships suck because they’ve literally asked him to shoot it. Literally begged him wide open?

pick your poision when the player can shoot, pass and drive

mikey couldnt pass or shoot

[RRR3]

pick your poision when the player can shoot, pass and drive

mikey couldnt pass or shoot
Couldn't go left either, and his dribbling was about as good as today's centers :oldlol: Pathetic era, someone like Tyler Herro would be considered a stud back then

[ImKobe]

pick your poision when the player can shoot, pass and drive

mikey couldnt pass or shoot

Mikey's still the GOAT mid-range shooter and arguably the greatest passing SG ever. Try again.

[3ba11]

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Kobe's 2009 title is on the same GOAT-level as Jordan's by virtue of defeating max defensive attention (carrying scoring load on championship level)



Finals PPG

09' Kobe......... 33
09' Pau........... 19

97' MJ'............ 32
97' Pip............ 19


It's actually quite rare and obviously the ability to carry the scoring load allows a player to win with less help such as secondary producers at sidekick like Pau, Klay or Pippen instead of elite-producing franchise guys like Wade, AD, or Kyrie and then additional all-stars at 3rd option.