View Full Version : Here's why Curry and Kobe are clearly superior basketball players than Lebron
3ba11
07-25-2024, 11:51 AM
Curry, Kobe and Lebron all had many bad losses with good rosters and all-star help, but Curry/Kobe are better than Lebron because they produce higher team peaks, chemistry and "unbeatable" teams that mostly win for stretches, which yields higher long-run title equity than "bron-ball" mostly losing regardless of cast and unable to compete on the championship level (lottery record in Finals)..
And of course MJ is better than everyone because he basically didn't lose with good rosters and had the highest peaks from a team or individual standpoint of the modern era, while being undefeated on the championship level.
Here's why you need therapy: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?518323-Here-s-why-Curry-and-Kobe-are-clearly-superior-basketball-players-than-Lebron&p=14931160#post14931160
3ba11
07-25-2024, 11:59 AM
Here's why you need therapy: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?518323-Here-s-why-Curry-and-Kobe-are-clearly-superior-basketball-players-than-Lebron&p=14931160#post14931160
re-did the OP since that's what you're really asking for
re-did the OP
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists
3ba11
07-25-2024, 12:11 PM
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists
I'm more confident than ever that Curry, Kobe and Duncan are superior basketball players than Lebron due to the simple, concise, historically-backed, and irrefutable reasons mentioned in the OP.. Your attempts to deflect that you never saw the GOAT play are transparent and immature.
sdot_thadon
07-25-2024, 02:27 PM
Curry, Kobe and Lebron all had many bad losses with good rosters and all-star help, but Curry/Kobe are better than Lebron because they produce higher team peaks, chemistry and "unbeatable" teams that mostly win for stretches, which yields higher long-run title equity than "bron-ball" mostly losing regardless of cast and unable to compete on the championship level (lottery record in Finals)..
And of course MJ is better than everyone because he basically didn't lose with good rosters and had the highest peaks from a team or individual standpoint of the modern era, while being undefeated on the championship level.
What higher peak team did Kobe produce? When he was the sidekick/1B to a top 10 alltime player? Also Curry's higher peaked team was defeated by none other than: Lebron James. You seem like you put so much thought into these proclamations but at the same time never think them through. Could just be that you're an idiot, but who knows?
And1AllDay
07-25-2024, 03:55 PM
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists
:oldlol: cooked that boi again
j3lademaster
07-25-2024, 06:25 PM
Lebron would build an unbeatable dynasty with peak Shaq and peak KD, too.
3ba11
07-26-2024, 12:45 AM
Lebron would build an unbeatable dynasty with peak Shaq and peak KD, too.
Curry's dynasty required winning with secondary producers at sidekick like Klay or Wiggins, which Lebron never did - Lebron always needed franchise players at sidekick, and guys that were better than Klay or Wiggins at 3rd option.
The reason that Lebron needs more help is because he needs more scoring help/star help, since he can't carry the scoring load against top teams, and also has weaker fits/chemistry that requires more talent/more help.,
The 2009 ECF was a great example of how Lebron couldn't carry the scoring load against top teams because he's too ball-dominant at carry-job volume - this inability to carry the scoring load requires all-time scoring help... Otoh, Curry can drop 40 while the ball moves, so he can maintain sufficient brand at carry-job volume to beat top teams and win with less scoring help.
Lebron's inability to carry the scoring load means that he can't win when he's the only scoring threat.. Accordingly, carrying the scoring load means defeating max defensive attention, which Lebron never did on the championship level (Finals) and Lebron also never carried weak help over top teams (never beat top 5 SRS team with weak scoring & efficiency from sidekick).. Again, this inability to carry the scoring load (defeat max defensive attention) requires more help than Curry winning with just Klay or Wiggins.
3ba11
07-26-2024, 01:36 AM
Lebron would build an unbeatable dynasty with peak Shaq and peak KD, too.
Lebron enjoyed the same unprecedented advantage that Kobe and Curry enjoyed but couldn't do anything with it..
Specifically, he mostly lost with each team when he had an unprecedented advantage of 6 straight seasons with preseason favorites from 11-16', and 2 perennial all-star teammates for 7 straight years (11-17'), or the only team with 3 franchise players on 1 team (11-16'), until KD finally responded in 2017..
Despite these advantages that were unprecedented at the time he had them (no other team had this roster advantage), he never had unbeatable teams that mostly won for a stretch like Curry winning 3 chips in 4 years, or Duncan winning 3 in 5, or Kobe 3-peating.. Instead, he had extremely beatable teams that mostly lost, and these losses were historic chokes or debacles, while his titles were teammate bailouts and lucky 7-game series that could've gone either way (extremely beatable teams).
Furthermore, Lebron lost by record amount with peak Kyrie/Love, so he wouldn't have an "unbeatable dynasty" with KD or Shaq.. Lebron also lost by record choke or record margin with peak Wade/Bosh (extremely beatable), so he wouldn't have an "unbeatable dynasty" with KD.... or Shaq... it's absurd.
Finally, it's interesting how Shaq barely led Kobe in scoring for the 2001 and 2002 runs (while Kobe led the important series against the 01' and 02' Spurs), yet those are considered 2nd option rings for Kobe, while Lebron gets a 1st option ring in 2020 even though AD led the team in scoring for playoffs and RS.
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