Is the bank shot becoming a lost art?

[tpols]

I remember Jason Kidd and Duncan used to use the bank quite a bit. Dirk too.

If you have a diagonal LOS at the rim from midrange banking it feels so much more certain than shooting directly at the net.

[Phoenix]

Pippen used it alot as well....

[tpols]

Pippen used it alot as well....

He who shall not be named. :lol

Kidd used it because his off the dribble jumper was generally weak.

[Phoenix]

For whatever reason I don't recall it being a staple of Kidds game. I expressly remember Duncan and Scottie.....

[3ba11]

Pippen used it alot as well....


Who do you think he learned it from?

The greatest bank shot-maker in history.. who else?

The bank shot was a staple of MJ's game, and he passed it down to Pippen, along with many other skills and styles, such as the lean-in dunk, or passing, or defense... that's what happens when a scrawny rookie lands next to the MVP/DPOY/scoring champ (the goat 2-way player)

[Phoenix]

Who do you think he learned it from?

The greatest bank shot-maker in history.. who else?

The bank shot was a staple of MJ's game, and he passed it down to Pippen, along with many other skills and styles, such as the lean-in dunk, or passing, or defense... that's what happens when a scrawny rookie lands next to the MVP/DPOY/scoring champ (the goat 2-way player)

Hi, Olympics are on. Consider this all you get for today.

[3ba11]

Hi, Olympics are on. Consider this all you get for today.


I already know what will happen.. I'm more confident in this than the "Ant is cruisin for a bruisin" thread right before he got destroyed by Kyrie in Game 1

[SouBeachTalents]

I already know what will happen.. I'm more confident in this than the "Ant is cruisin for a bruisin" thread right before he got destroyed by Kyrie in Game 1
You said Steph wouldn't have even made the NBA in the 70's, you don't know shit about ball :lol

[Kblaze8855]

I remember Ben Gordon had a habit of banking in 3s. At first they looked like accidents but he did it too often.

[Im Still Ballin]

Just less opportunity to use it, like the baseline mid-range jump shot. It was typically used out of the mid-to-low post areas, as well as sideline isolations and pick-and-rolls. Most of those plays now occur above the break/from the top of the key.

[paksat]

You mean a 2 point jump shot? The most talented generation everrrrrrr told me that's a horrible idea.

Like 7 years ago I took a shot, and made it, about 2 feet inside the 3 point line and one of the players said something about it. I simply told him I take shot if it's a good shot, not based on where it's taken.

If it was already that bad 7 years ago...

[L.Kizzle]

Bank shots are taken in the midrange area. Midrange is is gone which is why the bank shot is no more.
Sam Jones was the king of the bankshot.

[Jasper]

I remember Jason Kidd and Duncan used to use the bank quite a bit. Dirk too.

If you have a diagonal LOS at the rim from midrange banking it feels so much more certain than shooting directly at the net.

nope

[HylianNightmare]

You mean a 2 point jump shot? The most talented generation everrrrrrr told me that's a horrible idea.

Like 7 years ago I took a shot, and made it, about 2 feet inside the 3 point line and one of the players said something about it. I simply told him I take shot if it's a good shot, not based on where it's taken.

If it was already that bad 7 years ago...

This it is a staple of my game and whenever I go play somewhere where people don't know me they act like it's the wildest shit they've ever seen

[Wally450]

I feel like a lot of things inside the 3 point line are becoming a lost art. The bank shot, a decent post game, mid range jumpers...

You still see them at times, but I feel like they're all becoming a lost art.

[ILLsmak]

It seemed like a harder shot from 3 due to the strength required, but now people shoot well from further. There is nothing different about a 3 and a mid bank assuming the angle is right. It does require a little more power, but the backboard softens it so much.

Someone will be doing it. Don’t recall Gordon doing it tbh.

-Smak

[Im Still Ballin]

Research has shown that bank shots are more accurate at 10 feet and in on a forty-five-degree angle. Attempting a bank shot from further out isn't ideal as it's less accurate on average. A three-point bank shot is a trick shot at best.

[ILLsmak]

Research has shown that bank shots are more accurate at 10 feet and in on a forty-five-degree angle. Attempting a bank shot from further out isn't ideal as it's less accurate on average. A three-point bank shot is a trick shot at best.

There's more room for error in distance/strength. The 'accuracy' required is shooting it straight. I am intrigued by said research; can you post it?

edit: interesting read https://uni-watch.com/2023/12/05/is-a-bank-shot-free-throw-less-aesthetically-pleasing/ and that's straight on. I could def see how someone could argue straight on is a bad shot for bank, but if you have an angle, I dunno. Just thoughts, will post more later if anything happens haha.

-Smak

[paksat]

Dajuan Wagner says hi

[Im Still Ballin]

There's more room for error in distance/strength. The 'accuracy' required is shooting it straight. I am intrigued by said research; can you post it?

edit: interesting read https://uni-watch.com/2023/12/05/is-a-bank-shot-free-throw-less-aesthetically-pleasing/ and that's straight on. I could def see how someone could argue straight on is a bad shot for bank, but if you have an angle, I dunno. Just thoughts, will post more later if anything happens haha.

-Smak

https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/559469


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Figure 8 shows the (a) success rate of bank shots, (b) success rates of direct shots, and (c) difference of probability of success of bank shots and direct shots. Angled shots are better suited for bank shots, while straight-on shots from further than 12 feet are better suited for direct shots.

https://earimediaprodweb.azurewebsites.net/Api/v1/Multimedia/4de0c1e6-4634-495e-9145-0d2e4a128a83/Rendition/low-res/Content/Public

[ILLsmak]

https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/559469



https://earimediaprodweb.azurewebsites.net/Api/v1/Multimedia/4de0c1e6-4634-495e-9145-0d2e4a128a83/Rendition/low-res/Content/Public

Nice to read. It's interesting, but it doesn't really address longer shots. It says for shots around FT line, straight on is better, and that may be true (it's assumed true, at least, but that FT stuff I posted is interesting, too,) and it says angled is good for bank, but it doesn't say what the range limitation is. It SEEMS to say 12 feet, but it doesn't really state that, or the research does not conclude that.

Also, a computer sim doesn't give the type of adjustment you'd need to shoot a 3 point bank. The actual best comparison would be the size of the area for 'margin of error,' and with what force and compare it to the area of a shot not using a bank.

I dunno, though. It's interesting, as I said.

-Smak

[Street Hunger]

Bank shots are great, especially from the mid range elbows. But fewer NBA players even shot from there these days

[ILLsmak]

Talking about banks is some of the more interesting shit on this forum. Especially bank research. Sucks there isn’t more on the physics of it. The backboard being huge and having tape on it… it’s amazing people dont use it.

Still think banking 3s is viable haha. Just gotta shoot it right and be strong enough.

-Smak

[90sgoat]

Duncan had that bank shot on lockdown.