Lebron vs. Curry Every Year from 2015 to 2024 [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

3ba11

07-30-2024, 11:08 PM

Malone would've won the 98' Finals if Stockton outplayed MVP MJ, so anyone would win if their sidekick outplayed the league MVP and the current top dog of the league, but only Lebron had this kind of help.

So his 16' ring is a demonstration of underachieving with favored talent, aka the aforementioned unprecedented help of sidekick over league MVP, or 3 franchise players and the preseason favorite falling to underdog vs 1 franchise player (organic team).. aka barely doing the expected with favored talent...

His 29.7 ppg and 11 rpg was never mind-blowing, while his high assists yielded a massive deficit in team assists - every playoff loss in the last 10 years showed deficits in team assists, so he normally loses with this but he was lucky to win this time due to teammate bailout and the aforementioned unprecedented help of sidekick over league MVP, and also unprecedented suspension.

and he was 2nd option in 2020 regular season and playoffs (2nd option) ring..

So Curry was better every year but was hurt in the 16' Playoffs by injury, as well as unprecedented suspension and unprecedented opponent help... Also, we know that Lebron lost with 18 on 38% from Mo because he's never carried weak help over top teams - he's too ball-dominant at carry-job volume to beat top teams and therefore needs all-time scoring help..

Otoh, Curry drops 40 while the ball moves, so he has sufficient brand of ball at carry-job volume to beat top teams and can therefore carry the scoring load and win with less scoring help.. The best expert jumpshooters can win with secondary producers like Klay, Wiggins, Pippen, Terry, Lowry and Pau, while high-scoring ball-dominators like Lebron/Luka need franchise guys at sidekick like Brunson, Kyrie, AD, or Wade.

Carbine

07-30-2024, 11:11 PM

3ba11

07-30-2024, 11:14 PM

Lebron literally scored 2 points less over the entire playoffs than Davis. A simple drive and dish off in garbage time to Davis instead of taking it up himself made him a second option? I think not. Just agenda driven bullshit again. If we are talking strictly offense, Lebron was clearly the 1A to Davis 1B because his playmaking was amongst the best in the playoffs.

Lebron was a 2nd option in 2020 by virtue of being 2nd on the Lakers in scoring to AD for the regular season and playoffs, while also being the guy with the lottery team in 2019 that was lifted to champion by AD in 2020.. AD turned the team from lottery to champion by turning the defense from worst to first and the aforementioned scoring champ on his team in regular season and the entire league in the playoffs...

This makes AD the clear-cut first option for the 2020 championship, which means that for Lebron to win as 1st option, he needs 2 all-star teammates and sidekicks that made the Finals without him (Wade, Kyrie).. Both of these things are objective demonstrations of the superior help that Lebron needed compared to MJ.

dankok8

07-30-2024, 11:50 PM

3ball **** you

Don't derail my thread you bastard.

3ba11

07-30-2024, 11:55 PM

3ball **** you

Don't derail my thread you bastard.

in order to explain why Curry is better than Lebron, it's necessary to put the 16' ring of unbeatable and unprecedented help in to perspective, or the unprecedented suspension, and also the 2020 "2nd option" ring

But here's the reality... Since high-scoring ball-dominators like Oscar, Luka, Lebron, SGA, Harden or Westbrook never produced an "unbeatable" team that mostly won for a stretch, and mostly lost regardless of who was put around them, they produce less long-run title equity than skillsets that produce "unbeatable" teams and stretches of mostly winning (spurts of chips here and there).

Specifically, the best expert jumpshooters or centers have many examples of "unbeatable" teams, aka stretches of mostly winning with a team, such as Curry winning 3 chips in 4 years, or Duncan won 3 in 5, or MJ won 6 in 7.. Otoh, high-scoring ball-dominators never produced great teams and mostly lost with every cast, so they provide less title equity than the best bigs or the best expert jumpshooters that have many unbeatable teams and stretches of mostly winning..

Accordingly, the top 12 should be ranked by the skillset that produces the most long-run title equity, which likely means a mix of the best expert jumpshooters (MJ, Kobe, Bird, Curry) followed by the best centers (Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Duncan, Shaq, Hakeem), followed by the best ball-dominators (Lebron, Oscar).. Magic could be in the ball-dominator group and rank at #10 instead of Hakeem, who could be at #13.

SouBeachTalents

07-30-2024, 11:56 PM

3ball **** you

Don't derail my thread you bastard.
You've been posting here for the last 10 years, made a thread about LeBron, and actually had the expectation 3ball wouldn't hijack it?

https://y.yarn.co/48fd9f48-0a76-4ee4-b7d2-ec724c8656b5_text.gif

Axe

07-31-2024, 12:05 AM

In 2021, kong embarrassed chef gerbil in the play ins aka losers bracket. The warriors became the very first team ever to lose b2b games there, after losing to the grizzlies in the next game.

dankok8

07-31-2024, 12:09 AM

You've been posting here for the last 10 years, made a thread about LeBron, and actually had the expectation 3ball wouldn't hijack it?

https://y.yarn.co/48fd9f48-0a76-4ee4-b7d2-ec724c8656b5_text.gif

Is it too much to ask for him to just stay in his own threads...

I mean I can always ignore him but I feel like other people won't post on here when they see him on a tirade.

3ba11

07-31-2024, 12:09 AM

You've been posting here for the last 10 years, made a thread about LeBron, and actually had the expectation 3ball wouldn't hijack it?

https://y.yarn.co/48fd9f48-0a76-4ee4-b7d2-ec724c8656b5_text.gif

I didn't hijack anything - it's just necessary to put the Lebron factory (of resume) into perspective when comparing him to any of his peers.. His peers didn't get to team-up, or they did so after Lebron had a 6-year headstart from 11-16'.. This period saw an unprecedented advantage of 6 straight preseason favorites and the only team with 3 franchise players on 1 team, and 2 sidekicks that outplayed league MVP's (Wade, Kyrie)... All of this is unprecedented help that required another unprecedented move to overcome it.

Ultimately, Curry introduced a superior way to play the game.

Curry's goat chemistry allowed him to have goat team ceilings and the goat team, or win with less like Wiggins - no one thinks Lebron could ever win with Wiggins or Poole, and we've never seen Lebron have high team ceilings or great teams/dynasties regardless of who we put around him.. Again, Curry's superior chemistry allows him to win with less and reach the highest team ceilings (the goat team).

RRR3

07-31-2024, 12:11 AM

3ba11

07-31-2024, 12:14 AM

:oldlol:

What do you think about my ground-breaking investigation that confirms a conspiracy to deflate player weights of previous eras - the weights on bballref are deflated by 10-30 pounds generally.

And notice how I show my work - the proof is right there - no need to wonder about whether I'm right or not - this isn't subjective when I lay the proof out right in front of you

SouBeachTalents

07-31-2024, 12:31 AM

I didn't hijack anything - it's just necessary to put the Lebron factory (of resume) into perspective when comparing him to any of his peers.. His peers didn't get to team-up, or they did so after Lebron had a 6-year headstart from 11-16'.. This period saw an unprecedented advantage of 6 straight preseason favorites and the only team with 3 franchise players on 1 team, and 2 sidekicks that outplayed league MVP's (Wade, Kyrie)... All of this is unprecedented help that required another unprecedented move to overcome it.

Ultimately, Curry introduced a superior way to play the game.

Curry's goat chemistry allowed him to have goat team ceilings and the goat team, or win with less like Wiggins - no one thinks Lebron could ever win with Wiggins or Poole, and we've never seen Lebron have high team ceilings or great teams/dynasties regardless of who we put around him.. Again, Curry's superior chemistry allows him to win with less and reach the highest team ceilings (the goat team).
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493318-Curry-is-the-most-overrated-player-in-history

3ba11

07-31-2024, 12:47 AM

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?493318-Curry-is-the-most-overrated-player-in-history

I'd love to write a mea culpa like that about Lebron but he never proved me wrong - only Curry did.. A true goat does that.. Otoh, each passing year provides more evidence of Lebron's overrated stature and fraudulent, manufactured career of underachieving expectation.. another year of his weak brand of ball underperforming favored talent, such as losing with preseason favorites or with 2 all-star teammates, or as the series favorite.

dankok8

07-31-2024, 08:54 AM

2015: LeBron
2016: LeBron
2017: LeBron
2018: LeBron
2019: Curry
2020: LeBron
2021: Curry
2022: Curry
2023: Curry
2024: LeBron

Thanks for being the only one to actually reply to the OP.

Good list too. My only difference would be I'd have Curry over Lebron in 2015. Better regular season and then led the team to the title. 2024 also a bit debatable but Lebron there is a very defensible choice.

ShawkFactory

07-31-2024, 09:08 AM

Thanks for being the only one to actually reply to the OP.

Good list too. My only difference would be I'd have Curry over Lebron in 2015. Better regular season and then led the team to the title. 2024 also a bit debatable but Lebron there is a very defensible choice.

I would almost exactly agree with that list plus your modifications. 2024 I'm definitely giving to Lebron as I believe he is a better player right now.

2015 is close but I still think you could definitely argue that Lebron was the best player on the court when they were on it at the same time.

iamgine

07-31-2024, 09:12 AM

2015 - Lebron
2016 - Lebron
2017 - Lebron
2018 - Lebron
2019 - Lebron
2020 - Lebron
2021 - Curry
2022 - Curry
2023 - Curry
2024 - Lebron

dankok8

07-31-2024, 09:48 AM

I would almost exactly agree with that list plus your modifications. 2024 I'm definitely giving to Lebron as I believe he is a better player right now.

2015 is close but I still think you could definitely argue that Lebron was the best player on the court when they were on it at the same time.

Lebron was super inefficient so they were neck and neck in the playoffs but Curry had a better regular season.

ShawkFactory

07-31-2024, 09:55 AM

Lebron was super inefficient so they were neck and neck in the playoffs but Curry had a better regular season.

Shooting the ball he was, yes. I think he's all-around game was still perhaps a little stronger.

But yea it's hard to discount what the Warriors did and them winning the title, despite the circumstances.

1987_Lakers

07-31-2024, 10:04 AM

Didn't LeBron receive more FMVP votes in 2015 than Curry despite losing?

Nobody watched that Finals and came away thinking Curry was the better player.

dankok8

07-31-2024, 10:26 AM

Didn't LeBron receive more FMVP votes in 2015 than Curry despite losing?

Nobody watched that Finals and came away thinking Curry was the better player.

Nobody watched that Finals thinking Igoudala was the best player. :lol

1987_Lakers

07-31-2024, 10:29 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1HuHiWtvuY

warriorfan

07-31-2024, 10:33 AM

Didn't LeBron receive more FMVP votes in 2015 than Curry despite losing?

Nobody watched that Finals and came away thinking Curry was the better player.

No one cares about media voted awards from no nothing reporter ladies

Hell, Lebron stans take it a step further and try to discredit Kobe’s all defensive teams that were voted on by actual NBA coaches….:lol

StrongLurk

07-31-2024, 10:39 AM

Bron has been better than Curry every single year they have been in the NBA. The only time Curry eclipsed Lebron was during the 2016 regular season, but we know how that year ended...

1987_Lakers

07-31-2024, 10:41 AM

No one cares about media voted awards from no nothing reporter ladies

Hell, Lebron stans take it a step further and try to discredit Kobe’s all defensive teams that were voted on by actual NBA coaches….:lol

It's true though, LeBron by himself made the '15 series competitive despite being undermanned. You put Curry in LeBron's situation that year and there is no way it goes 6, Cavs would get swept. Curry was being locked up by Dellavedova for a good chunk of the series and it wasn't until Kerr put Iggy in the starting lineup that the Warriors took control of the series. (Hence the FMVP for Iggy)

As for your Kobe point, forget what other coaches thought of his defense, but what did his actual coach think??

“Kobe's defense, to be accurate, has faltered in recent years, despite his presence on the league's all-defensive team. The voters have been seduced by his remarkable athleticism and spectacular steals, but he hasn't played sound, fundamental defense." - Phil Jackson

warriorfan

07-31-2024, 10:43 AM

Bron has been better than Curry every single year they have been in the NBA. The only time Curry eclipsed Lebron was during the 2016 regular season, but we know how that year ended...

with bron speed dialing adam silver after the game to get the call on the floor changed to a flagrant after the fact

giving him yet another asterisk ring

the sad part was he probably didn’t even need go do that, Curry was still hobbled after tearing his MCL earlier in the playoffs vs the Rockets. they could have won legit

Lebron didn’t have to make that call tarnishing his legacy

warriorfan

07-31-2024, 10:47 AM

It's true though, LeBron by himself made the '15 series competitive despite being undermanned. You put Curry in LeBron's situation that year and there is no way it goes 6, Cavs would get swept. Curry was being locked up by Dellavedova for a good chunk of the series and it wasn't until Kerr put Iggy in the starting lineup that the Warriors took control of the series. (Hence the FMVP for Iggy)

As for your Kobe point, forget what other coaches thought of his defense, but what did his actual coach think??

“Kobe's defense, to be accurate, has faltered in recent years, despite his presence on the league's all-defensive team. The voters have been seduced by his remarkable athleticism and spectacular steals, but he hasn't played sound, fundamental defense." - Phil Jackson

Standard Phil mind games and motivational tools.

Phil always had an ulterior motive with his comments, but it’s also what made him a masterful coach.

I’ll go with the other 29 coaches in the league that didn’t have an agenda.

If you want to disregard the word of 29 coaches….and in turn put blind faith in reporters from bleacher report and yahoo….go for it. It’s your life. Live it how you want to.

1987_Lakers

07-31-2024, 10:48 AM

with bron speed dialing adam silver after the game to get the call on the floor changed to a flagrant after the fact

giving him yet another asterisk ring

the sad part was he probably didn’t even need go do that, Curry was still hobbled after tearing his MCL earlier in the playoffs vs the Rockets. they could have won legit

Lebron didn’t have to make that call tarnishing his legacy

Curry right after "tearing his MCL"

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1987_Lakers

07-31-2024, 10:49 AM

Standard Phil mind games and motivational tools.

Mind games and motivational tools? He wasn't coaching the Lakers when he made that comment.

Try again.

1987_Lakers

07-31-2024, 10:59 AM

I’ll go with the other 29 coaches in the league that didn’t have an agenda.

You really think 29 other coaches are watching ALL of Kobe's defensive possessions when they have their own team and opponents to worry about? Don't be naive. The few people who could get a good assessment on a players defense are the people who coach that player. You could also throw in local media who covers that team day in and day out and hardcore fans who watch every game, like I did.

warriorfan

07-31-2024, 11:06 AM

You really think 29 other coaches are watching ALL of Kobe's defensive possessions when they have their own team and opponents to worry about? Don't be naive. The few people who could get a good assessment on a players defense are the people who coach that player. You could also throw in local media who covers that team day in and day out and hardcore fans who watch every game, like I did.

Tell us more about how you trust random beat writers over nba coaches

lol

1987_Lakers

07-31-2024, 11:19 AM

Tell us more about how you trust random beat writers over nba coaches

lol

I would trust a local beat writer who watches every game over a random head coach in Indiana who only plays the Lakers twice a year.

warriorfan

07-31-2024, 11:23 AM

I would trust a local beat writer who watches every game over a random head coach in Indiana who only plays the Lakers twice a year.

You are posting videos about how the government lied to us and the moon is a spaceship but when it comes to sports you are all about main stream media.

Lol, interesting.

1987_Lakers

07-31-2024, 11:28 AM

You are posting videos about how the government lied to us and the moon is a spaceship but when it comes to sports you are all about main stream media.

Lol, interesting.

Loses argument and proceed to change the subject. You got cooked my boy.

Lol at comparing sports reporters to politics

dankok8

07-31-2024, 11:30 AM

I would trust a local beat writer who watches every game over a random head coach in Indiana who only plays the Lakers twice a year.

Teams do watch film of opposing teams to prepare for games so the Indiana coach would definitely watch quite a bit of film of Kobe in your example.

1987_Lakers

07-31-2024, 11:33 AM

Teams do watch film of opposing teams to prepare for games so the Indiana coach would definitely watch quite a bit of film of Kobe in your example.

All of Kobe’s defensive possessions throughout the year? Not happening.

Phil Jackson saw Kobe day in and day out but warriorfan would rather trust opinions on coaches who saw less of him.

dankok8

07-31-2024, 12:28 PM

All of Kobe’s defensive possessions throughout the year? Not happening.

Phil Jackson saw Kobe day in and day out but warriorfan would rather trust opinions on coaches who saw less of him.

Sure...

Back to the topic though. Finals MVP votes in 2015 can't decide who was the better player because we both know it wasn't Igoudala.

StrongLurk

07-31-2024, 12:37 PM

Sure...

Back to the topic though. Finals MVP votes in 2015 can't decide who was the better player because we both know it wasn't Igoudala.

Lebron was better. Curry was more efficient scoring but on 10 less ppg, and didn't impact other areas of the game (rebounding/playmaking/defense) nearly as much as Lebron.

Could you imagine the reverse scenario? Curry playing without Dray/Klay while Lebron has Kyrie/Love? Cavs would've swept the Warriors in 2015.

3ba11

07-31-2024, 01:03 PM

Lebron was better. Curry was more efficient scoring but on 10 less ppg, and didn't impact other areas of the game (rebounding/playmaking/defense) nearly as much as Lebron.

Could you imagine the reverse scenario? Curry playing without Dray/Klay while Lebron has Kyrie/Love? Cavs would've swept the Warriors in 2015.

In 2015, Curry introduced the world to a superior way of playing basketball that culminated in a title, so there's no way that a superior way of playing is worse than Lebron.. it's literally the best - Curry was bitw from 15-22' because it's his brand of ball that everyone is using now.. and curry has the titles during this time period to prove it

warriorfan

07-31-2024, 01:10 PM

Lebron James shot 47% TS in the 2015 Finals….

Allen Iverson career post season TS is 52%

Bron stans:

“Kobe was trash, AI was worse! Most inefficient scorer of all time. BUM!”

Bron shoots a full 5 percent lower in the finals…..

“I think Bron deserved MvP, media said so too. Case closed”

Hey Yo

07-31-2024, 01:44 PM

Didn't LeBron receive more FMVP votes in 2015 than Curry despite losing?

Nobody watched that Finals and came away thinking Curry was the better player.

LeBron's 4 fmvp votes in 2015 was the same amount Curry got in his first 5 finals combined.

Irving was injured in the first game and was done for the rest of the series. Down 1-0, James leads the Cavs to 2 straight wins taking a 2-1 series lead while missing his 2nd and 3rd best teammates.

Insert Iggy in the starting lineup in game 4 and proceeds to put up 22 and 8 while playing almost 40mins leading GS to a blowout on the road and eventual FMVP

Hey Yo

07-31-2024, 01:47 PM

warriorfan

07-31-2024, 01:47 PM

LeBron's 4 fmvp votes in 2015 was the same amount Curry got in his first 5 finals combined.

Irving was injured in the first game and was done for the rest of the series. Down 1-0, James leads the Cavs to 2 straight wins taking a 2-1 series lead while missing his 2nd and 3rd best teammates.

Insert Iggy in the starting lineup in game 4 and proceeds to put up 22 and 8 while playing almost 40mins leading GS to a blowout on the road.

lebron somehow got votes for shooting 47% TS while losing

lol do you know how cringe that is

keep sucking that media D

bron stans:

“skip bayless and these sports journalists don’t know shit and are agenda driven”

also bron stans

“hey check out these sports journalist votes”

:roll:

tpols

07-31-2024, 02:20 PM

ArbitraryWater

07-31-2024, 08:42 PM

2015: LeBron
2016: LeBron
2017: LeBron
2018: LeBron
2019: LeBron
2020: LeBron
2021: Curry
2022: Curry
2023: Curry
2024: LeBron

ArbitraryWater

07-31-2024, 08:43 PM

Axe

07-31-2024, 09:14 PM

In 2015, Curry introduced the world to a superior way of playing basketball that culminated in a title, so there's no way that a superior way of playing is worse than Lebron.. it's literally the best - Curry was bitw from 15-22' because it's his brand of ball that everyone is using now.. and curry has the titles during this time period to prove it
You did say before he's the most overrated player tho. Stop lying to us, andrew.

Carbine

07-31-2024, 09:32 PM

The only years Lebron was better was 2020 and 2016.

Currys H2H W/L record against Lebron in the playoffs is 17-11 with a huge point differential in this time span including the biggest blowout out in NBA Finals history (2018) which replaced the previous record set in the 2014 Finals.

More mumbo jumbo agenda driven bullshit.

This penalizes Lebron exponentially for dragging the 2018 Cavs to the finals and playing against the KD Warriors aka one of the best teams ever, if not the best.

Of course they were going to get hammered.

It also penalizes Lebron for playing 2015 without his 2nd and 3rd best players in the finals. Of course you're going to lose that, just call a spade a spade it's not a knock on Lebron. Anyone is losing without #2 and #3 options, especially a top heavy team like the Cavs were in the finals.

dankok8

07-31-2024, 10:53 PM

2015: LeBron
2016: LeBron
2017: LeBron
2018: LeBron
2019: LeBron
2020: LeBron
2021: Curry
2022: Curry
2023: Curry
2024: LeBron

How is 2019 not Curry?

WhiteKyrie

07-31-2024, 11:42 PM

2015: LeBron
2016: LeBron
2017: LeBron
2018: LeBron
2019: Curry
2020: LeBron
2021: Curry
2022: Curry
2023: Curry
2024: LeBron
Accurate

3ba11

07-31-2024, 11:58 PM

warriorfan

08-01-2024, 12:19 AM

So Allen Iverson > Curry?

because that's what you're saying when you say Lebron was better in 2015 - he played like Iverson in those playoffs - super-low efficiency chucking and bad defense

yet this "iverson-ball" is better than the guy that introduced a superior way of playing in Curry?

it's impossible

and of course the 16' ring is so overrated because anyone would win if their sidekick outplayed the league MVP -literally - go back to any series that had the league MVP and then imagine that the opposing sidekick outplayed him.. victory would be impossible for the league MVP in this scenario.

I see no one addressed when I mentioned Lebron shot 47% TS for the series….

That is far worse than even Allen Iverson percentages

It is refreshing to know at least one other poster realizes he shot some of the worst efficiency in the history of the nba finals.

1987_Lakers

08-01-2024, 12:23 AM

So Allen Iverson > Curry?

Bron also averaged 13 boards and 9 assists, wasn't aware A.I was capable of that.

Meanwhile Curry was getting locked up by an Australian and was bailed out by a role player in Iggy.

1987_Lakers

08-01-2024, 12:27 AM

It's funny seeing most people here have LeBron > Curry from 2015-2018 considering those were Curry's peak years. :oldlol:

LeBron peaked as a player in Miami when Curry was still looking like a 18 year old.

LeLongevity.

Taurus

08-01-2024, 12:55 AM

2015 - Wash, probably leaning towards Bron
2016 - Bron
2017 - Bron
2018 - Bron
2019 - Curry
2020 - Bron
2021 - Curry
2022 - Curry (Chip carries hard, his regular season was not that good)
2023 - Curry
2024 - Bron

Manny98

08-01-2024, 01:45 AM

2015 - Curry
2016 - LeBron
2017 - LeBron
2018 - LeBron
2019 - Curry
2020 - LeBron
2021 - LeBron
2022 - Curry
2023 - Curry
2024 - LeBron

iamgine

08-01-2024, 01:49 AM

How is 2019 not Curry?

2019 was one of Curry's worst year, both in regular season and playoff.

iamgine

08-01-2024, 01:52 AM

dankok8

08-01-2024, 10:25 AM

2019 was one of Curry's worst year, both in regular season and playoff.

Dude was a monster the last 12 playoff games after KD went down. Lebron also got injured and missed the playoffs.

2019 is one of the most one-sided years.

1987_Lakers

08-01-2024, 11:00 AM

Curry from 2015-1018 and Curry from 2021-2023 was not that different impact wise.

The only year that was close to his 2015-2018 years was his 2021 season. The season where he missed the playoffs because LeBron hit a game winner over his face.

All advanced metrics show Curry peaked in 2015-2018.

iamgine

08-01-2024, 11:10 AM

Dude was a monster the last 12 playoff games after KD went down. Lebron also got injured and missed the playoffs.

2019 is one of the most one-sided years.

Just because Lebron got injured and miss playoff doesn't mean he wasn't better.

iamgine

08-01-2024, 11:11 AM

The only year that was close to his 2015-2018 years was his 2021 season. The season where he missed the playoffs because LeBron hit a game winner over his face.

All advanced metrics show Curry peaked in 2015-2018.

He probably peaked around 15-17 but his level doesn't drop much in 21-23.

dankok8

08-01-2024, 12:34 PM

Here is my list.

2015: Curry (close)
2016: LeBron (close)
2017: LeBron (close)
2018: LeBron
2019: Curry
2020: LeBron
2021: Curry
2022: Curry
2023: Curry
2024: Curry (close)

ArbitraryWater

08-01-2024, 04:55 PM

Here is my list.

2015: Curry (close)
2016: LeBron (close)
2017: LeBron (close)
2018: LeBron
2019: Curry
2020: LeBron
2021: Curry
2022: Curry
2023: Curry
2024: Curry (close)

Small thing I noticed:

Years that are obviously LeBron you deem close, and years that are LeBron closely you deem Curry.

Hey Yo

08-01-2024, 06:51 PM

Dude was a monster the last 12 playoff games after KD went down. Lebron also got injured and missed the playoffs.

2019 is one of the most one-sided years.

James missed like 25gms in 2019 but as a whole... Lakers 1 thru 8 missed a combined 140+games.

2020 though Steph takes a big hit for opting to sit out the remainder of the season after his hand/wrist had already healed. Green was pulled shortly after that while GS went on to purposely tank the season.

RRR3

08-01-2024, 08:17 PM

Here is my list.

2015: Curry (close)
2016: LeBron (close)
2017: LeBron (close)
2018: LeBron
2019: Curry
2020: LeBron
2021: Curry
2022: Curry
2023: Curry
2024: Curry (close)
Yes we know you made this thread to denigrate LeBron, give it up, gramps

tpols

08-01-2024, 08:29 PM

Yes we know you made this thread to denigrate LeBron, give it up, gramps

The fact he gave 2017 and 2018 to Lebron despite Curry waffle stomping him 9-1 with 28/7/7 + great efficiency in their H2H matchups should be considered an honor for you guys.

Could've easily gave 2017 to Curry.

dankok8

08-01-2024, 11:17 PM

James missed like 25gms in 2019 but as a whole... Lakers 1 thru 8 missed a combined 140+games.

2020 though Steph takes a big hit for opting to sit out the remainder of the season after his hand/wrist had already healed. Green was pulled shortly after that while GS went on to purposely tank the season.

You can't be ahead of a player who has a better regular season than you and then goes on a huge tear in the playoffs while you miss the playoffs. Based on 2018 and 2020, maybe 2019 Lebron had potential to be ahead of Curry if he was healthy but he wasn't and he wasn't.

2020 is Lebron by a lap. Curry doesn't even qualify LOL