View Full Version : Jordan saying the Bulls were Pippen's team during the '96 Season
1987_Lakers
07-31-2024, 10:30 PM
https://www.deseret.com/1995/12/18/19210933/jordan-declares-bulls-are-now-pippen-s-team/
Michael Jordan went into this season determined to show that he's still the best basketball player in the world. As it turns out, he may not even be the best in Chicago.
"It's Scottie Pippen's team," Jordan says. "He's made unbelievable strides. There used to be inconsistency to his game that people criticized. But now, he's alleviated the inconsistency. He's got to be one of the best players in the game, if not the best."He's learned how to challenge himself every night. When one phase of his game is not clicking, he's contributed in other areas. That's a sign of greatness."
WhiteKyrie
08-01-2024, 02:10 AM
At that point it kind of was … up until about the start of the second half of the season. He also was being a very gracious teammate. Jordan was still the best player on the team. The second he came back in 1995 let alone the 1996 season. Pippen the second half of 96 was never the same when he started racking up little injuries as well but MJ was the best player on the team that’s obvious. It’s the same LeBron’s in Miami by the second season he was the best player on the team definitively, but it still was Dwyane Wade “team”
Da_Realist
08-01-2024, 02:46 AM
Fake. We all know MJ never gave Pippen any credit.
WhiteKyrie
08-01-2024, 03:19 AM
Fake. We all know MJ never gave Pippen any credit.
Forgot about this ignorant shade thrown at Michael from the Gen Z and Bron Jock Sniffers
ImKobe
08-01-2024, 04:42 AM
Shaq also said Kobe was the best player in the world in 2001.
I'll give you Pippen in '96 if you give me Kobe in 2001, OP.
Phoenix
08-01-2024, 08:38 AM
Pippen was balling the first half of that season. If he didn't get those little nagging injuries in the 2nd half of the year, they probably go 74-8 and 15-1 in the playoffs or something.
tpols
08-01-2024, 09:12 AM
OP may have a low social IQ. The leaders were buttering Pippen up to give him confidence and foster good team chemistry. The guy was trash in the playoffs that year.
tpols
08-01-2024, 09:16 AM
Shaq also said Kobe was the best player in the world in 2001.
I'll give you Pippen in '96 if you give me Kobe in 2001, OP.
Kobe averaged 29/7/6 on elite efficiency with top tier defense in 2001.
Pippen averaged 17/8/6 on poor efficiency in the 1996 playoffs.
Kobes play had merit... he put up superstar production. Pippen? Not even close.
8Ball
08-01-2024, 09:46 AM
OP may have a low social IQ. The leaders were buttering Pippen up to give him confidence and foster good team chemistry. The guy was trash in the playoffs that year.
Jordan had FMVP votes taken from him by his own teammates. And the other team player had 3 FMVP votes.
tpols
08-01-2024, 10:08 AM
Jordan had FMVP votes taken from him by his own teammates. And the other team player had 3 FMVP votes.
Rodman was a monster in the 1996 Finals. Pippen not so much. 15 ppg on 42% TS. Straight garbage.
I'm surprised the Bulls won that series so easily given how Scottie played. Rodman must've been rebounding all his bricks.
1987_Lakers
08-01-2024, 10:19 AM
Rodman must've been rebounding all his bricks.
Maybe Jordan's since he missed more shots.
tpols
08-01-2024, 10:33 AM
Maybe Jordan's since he missed more shots.
MJs efficiency metrics were astronomically higher than Pippens in that series on almost double volume. He literally carried them. Along with Rodman.
warriorfan
08-01-2024, 10:37 AM
Maybe Jordan's since he missed more shots.
bro you gonna talk about missed shots, you suck lebron’s dick for shooting 47% TS in the finals
lmao
1987_Lakers
08-01-2024, 10:44 AM
MJs efficiency metrics were astronomically higher than Pippens in that series on almost double volume. He literally carried them. Along with Rodman.
Technically, MJ missed more shots. So your previous point is nonsense.
1987_Lakers
08-01-2024, 10:47 AM
bro you gonna talk about missed shots, you suck lebron’s dick for shooting 47% TS in the finals
lmao
The thing that separates guys like LeBron & Curry is their all-around play. Curry is pretty much useless if his shot isn't going down, LeBron can still grab rebounds, be a playmaker, & contribute on defense.
Just look at the Olympics so far. Curry is getting exposed, his shot isn't falling and he doesn't contribute to other parts of the game. FIBA rules have Curry shook.
tpols
08-01-2024, 10:51 AM
Technically, MJ missed more shots. So your previous point is nonsense.
Well yea... if he's taking double the shots that's how it works. We're they supposed to give Pippen more shots when he was shooting an all time bad % and the worst of anybody on the Bulls whole team? 42% TS on low volume is terrible.
1987_Lakers
08-01-2024, 10:54 AM
Well yea... if he's taking double the shots that's how it works. We're they supposed to give Pippen more shots when he was shooting an all time bad % and the worst of anybody on the Bulls whole team? 42% TS on low volume is terrible.
You said Rodman got FMVP votes because he was rebounding all of Scottie's bricks. I simply showed you MJ missed more shots.
Your post backfired.
Hold this L.
tpols
08-01-2024, 10:59 AM
:oldlol:
Arguing with you is like talking to a small child with a non fully developed prefrontal cortex.
I would never do such a thing but apparently you're a grown man so it makes the whole thing amusing.
Keep defending 42% TS and 34% FG though. This is hilarious.
"Pippens team".
1987_Lakers
08-01-2024, 11:04 AM
"Pippens team".
I never made such a statement. That was Jordan.
"It's Scottie Pippen's team," Jordan says. "He's made unbelievable strides."
Hey Yo
08-01-2024, 11:21 AM
OP may have a low social IQ. The leaders were buttering Pippen up to give him confidence and foster good team chemistry. The guy was trash in the playoffs that year.
Jordan tried to butter himself up in the 95 ECSF thinking that switching jersey numbers would make him play better.
That's like an 8yr old getting new shoes and thinking he'll be able to run faster.
warriorfan
08-01-2024, 11:33 AM
:oldlol:
Arguing with you is like talking to a small child with a non fully developed prefrontal cortex.
I would never do such a thing but apparently you're a grown man so it makes the whole thing amusing.
Keep defending 42% TS and 34% FG though. This is hilarious.
"Pippens team".
lmao
dude is a mental midget and a real one
beasted
08-01-2024, 11:37 AM
Maybe Jordan's since he missed more shots.
LeBronze fans brains lose all function when trying to contextualize volume stats.
:facepalm
Hey Yo
08-01-2024, 11:40 AM
The thing that separates guys like LeBron & Curry is their all-around play. Curry is pretty much useless if his shot isn't going down, LeBron can still grab rebounds, be a playmaker, & contribute on defense.
Just look at the Olympics so far. Curry is getting exposed, his shot isn't falling and he doesn't contribute to other parts of the game. FIBA rules have Curry shook.
Those in charge knew Curry's game wouldn't translate well in the olympics... that's why he wasn't selected in 2016 or 2020. He got his shot this year and has proven he doesn't belong on the team.
tpols
08-01-2024, 12:01 PM
Those in charge knew Curry's game wouldn't translate well in the olympics... that's why he wasn't selected in 2016 or 2020. He got his shot this year and has proven he doesn't belong on the team.
The Olympics are like a Monstar team for USA. The plays they run are extremely basic and basically amount to just handing the ball off to one superstar after another my turn your turn style. Currys teams in the NBA ran much more sophisticated sets that relied more on ball movement and team work instead of just overwhelming pure talent.
sdot_thadon
08-01-2024, 12:31 PM
The Olympics are like a Monstar team for USA. The plays they run are extremely basic and basically amount to just handing the ball off to one superstar after another my turn your turn style. Currys teams in the NBA ran much more sophisticated sets that relied more on ball movement and team work instead of just overwhelming pure talent.
So you're telling us Curry is a system player? :wtf:
Hey Yo
08-01-2024, 12:42 PM
The Olympics are like a Monstar team for USA. The plays they run are extremely basic and basically amount to just handing the ball off to one superstar after another my turn your turn style. Currys teams in the NBA ran much more sophisticated sets that relied more on ball movement and team work instead of just overwhelming pure talent.
Reach further, chico...
tpols
08-01-2024, 12:55 PM
So you're telling us Curry is a system player? :wtf:
Well he is the system. Team USA doesn't need to run elaborate sets because they have 10x the talent any other team has.
8Ball
08-01-2024, 01:12 PM
Rodman was a monster in the 1996 Finals. Pippen not so much. 15 ppg on 42% TS. Straight garbage.
I'm surprised the Bulls won that series so easily given how Scottie played. Rodman must've been rebounding all his bricks.
So Jordan also played like crap in the finals but only Scottie gets crapped on?
Reminder, voters gave Rodman some votes, and voters also gave the player on the losing team some FMVP votes.
dankok8
08-01-2024, 02:02 PM
Jordan playing like crap in the 1996 Finals is a big exaggeration. He was a beast through the first three games as the Bulls got a 3-0 lead and practically ended the series.
Lebron23
08-02-2024, 12:47 AM
Rest in peace Michael Jordan
Jordan playing like crap in the 1996 Finals is a big exaggeration. He was a beast through the first three games as the Bulls got a 3-0 lead and practically ended the series.
Unfortunately for you MJ stans, the series does not end after 3 games.
dankok8
08-02-2024, 10:13 AM
Unfortunately for you MJ stans, the series does not end after 3 games.
It doesn't but what I mentioned is important context for any sane person.
1987_Lakers
08-02-2024, 10:28 AM
lmao
dude is a mental midget and a real one
Says the guy who wanted to meet up and fight me just because I was shitting on Curry.
You are so easy to trigger. Say one bad thing about Curry and you get all in your feelings.
Carbine
08-02-2024, 10:29 AM
Considering no team has ever come back from 3-0 in the history of the NBA in any series not just finals it was virtually over after that third win. Especially with game 6 AND 7 in Chicago.
1987_Lakers
08-02-2024, 10:35 AM
Considering no team has ever come back from 3-0 in the history of the NBA in any series not just finals it was virtually over after that third win. Especially with game 6 AND 7 in Chicago.
Just because it never happened doesn't mean it's over.
I understand it's human nature to take the foot off the gas pedal if you have a comfortable lead, but you still got to get the job done.
Even after Seattle won 2 straight games to make the series 3-2, MJ came out and shot 5 of 19 in game 6.
What changed in that series is the Sonics decided to put GP on MJ. MJ wasn't being guarded by Payton to start off the series.
Just because it never happened doesn't mean it's over.
I understand it's human nature to take the foot off the gas pedal if you have a comfortable lead, but you still got to get the job done.
Even after Seattle won 2 straight games to make the series 3-2, MJ came out and shot 5 of 19 in game 6.
What changed in that series is the Sonics decided to put GP on MJ. MJ wasn't being guarded by Payton to start off the series.
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Locked up by door-to-door salesmen and car mechanics
3ba11
08-02-2024, 08:21 PM
Just because it never happened doesn't mean it's over.
I understand it's human nature to take the foot off the gas pedal if you have a comfortable lead, but you still got to get the job done.
Even after Seattle won 2 straight games to make the series 3-2, MJ came out and shot 5 of 19 in game 6.
What changed in that series is the Sonics decided to put GP on MJ. MJ wasn't being guarded by Payton to start off the series.
here's Mj right before Game 4 in the lockerroom saying "this is the most relaxed that I've ever been in a Finals.. I guess a 3-0 lead makes you a little more relaxed"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfAoaAb3Nc0&t=42m32s
However, MJ had the wrong strategy against Payton by trying to bully him on the post when the refs were letting everything go and giving the poor Sonics a free ride... He needed to do the same thing that he did in the 93' ECF against Starks - shoot mostly jumpers via triple-threat or live dribble and forget trying to take Payton down low.. Jordan had great success getting to the hole against Payton via live dribble and getting things off-the-catch against Payton but for some reason he insisted on trying to bully Payton for 3 straight games.. If Jordan had a weakness, it was that he was stubborn with his own personal game - he would try to prove to himself that he would dominate a certain way - we saw this with the Bad Boy Pistons - he might've beaten the Pistons earlier if he'd moved to a more jumpshot approach instead of trying to attack the hole for the entire series and prove he could "defeat" the jordan rules and physical attack in the paint.. it was stubborn and cost him a few series.
1987_Lakers
08-02-2024, 08:32 PM
He needed to do the same thing that he did in the 93' ECF against Starks - shoot mostly jumpers via triple-threat or live dribble and forget trying to take Payton down low.. J
MJ shot 40% in the '93 ECF.
3ba11
08-02-2024, 08:52 PM
MJ shot 40% in the '93 ECF.
Only until he figured out to shoot jumpers against the shorter defender in a physical series where the refs are letting things go and negating the height advantage inside.
This revelation occurred in Game 4 after a poor Games 1-3..
Once he figured out the "paint was sealed" as he put it, he went off for 54 on jumpers vs the shorter defender, which is the right strategy in a physical series that negates height advantage inside.. He would've similarly figured this out against the shorter Payton if he had more games like he did in 93'.. And people don't realize that the entire Sonics team outside of Kemp was wetting the bed in that series, including Payton - they were especially enamored by the sights and the sounds in their first Finals like a kid in Disneyland... Why would that change if Payton was on MJ from game 1?.. it would've been even worse obviously... Payton would've played even worse if he was on MJ from Game 1 and giving more time to get figured out by the far bigger, faster, stronger and more skilled player
1987_Lakers
08-02-2024, 09:00 PM
Only until he figured out to shoot jumpers against the shorter defender in a physical series where the refs are letting things go and negating the height advantage inside.
This revelation occurred in Game 4 after a poor Games 1-3.
He shot 8 of 24 in game 6.
Carry on.
dankok8
08-03-2024, 12:43 AM
1996 Finals
Jordan ON: 115.2 ORtg, 104.5 DRtg, +10.7 Net (252 minutes)
Jordan OFF: 84.6 ORtg, 123.0 DRtg, -38.5 Net (36 minutes)
Also noteworthy that Pippen was on the floor for 32 out of 36 minutes that MJ sat as well so it's not like the Bulls emptied the bench when MJ sat. Pippen, Kukoc and Harper all had injuries in the series. Pippen just wasn't right ever since the regular season, Kukoc missed a bunch of games in the Knicks series and was far from his best and Harper got hurt in the Finals and played just 1 minute in two different games. Bulls were basically all Jordan and Rodman on offense with the latter crashing the offensive glass. 3rd best offensive contributor was probably Longley LOL. On D, the whole Bulls' team was dominant except in Game 4 when they were sleepwalking. MJ too had one of his better defensive series too. And besides 27.3/5.3/4.2 on 53.8 %TS isn't some terrible offensive production anyways. The Sonics were a great defensive team even if not as good as the Bulls.
ArbitraryWater
08-03-2024, 08:15 AM
Damn, thats a very interesting quote haha...
at the very least it proves Pips status at the top of the game, as top 5-10 player.
sdot_thadon
08-03-2024, 09:46 AM
Damn, thats a very interesting quote haha...
at the very least it proves Pips status at the top of the game, as top 5-10 player.
Quote didn't even even sink in because it got derailed immediately lol. Their God said himself Scottie was "one of the best, if not the best player" circa 1996 I'm not even sure I've ever heard Mj call another guy best in the world besides this.....
8Ball
08-03-2024, 03:01 PM
Pippen was all-nba 1st team and all-defensive 1st team in 1996.
gengiskhan
08-03-2024, 09:55 PM
MJ shot 40% in the '93 ECF.
against The best physical defense ever of 1990s decade.
With today's NO hand check, NO blood NO foul ules, 1993 ECF MJ will shoot 60%FG.
against The best physical defense ever of 1990s decade.
With today's NO hand check, NO blood NO foul ules, 1993 ECF MJ will shoot 60%FG.
Delusional, MJ would be Jose Alvarado today.
1987_Lakers
08-03-2024, 10:14 PM
against The best physical defense ever of 1990s decade.
With today's NO hand check, NO blood NO foul ules, 1993 ECF MJ will shoot 60%FG.
Where you been bro? You went ghost mode after your '80 Olympics blunder.
Da_Realist
08-04-2024, 03:09 AM
Just because it never happened doesn't mean it's over.
I understand it's human nature to take the foot off the gas pedal if you have a comfortable lead, but you still got to get the job done.
Even after Seattle won 2 straight games to make the series 3-2, MJ came out and shot 5 of 19 in game 6.
What changed in that series is the Sonics decided to put GP on MJ. MJ wasn't being guarded by Payton to start off the series.
Let's see LeBron lead a 70 win team so he can show us how it's done. Not only is MJ the only won to lead his team to 70+ wins and close the deal but his teams won a ring every time they won 60+ games.
Let's see LeBron lead a 70 win team so he can show us how it's done. Not only is MJ the only won to lead his team to 70+ wins and close the deal but his teams won a ring every time they won 60+ games.
LeBron prefers to beat 70 win teams. Let's see MJ do that.
3ba11
08-04-2024, 10:04 AM
You can tell this thread was made by a child that doesn't understand adult political speak.
Adults understood that disrespect isn't cool - Jordan was never going to come back and yank the team back from Pippen... No mature, respectful adult would do that... It's similar to Kamala saying all the right things about ol' Joe before she puts him out to pasture.
No one... And I mean no one took MJ seriously when he said that it was Pippen's team - everyone knew he was just being a nice guy by gently and slowly removing the team from Pippen's losing grasp.. aka Get Pippen's shaky hand off the controls... with a friendly smile...TLDR: it's called bullshit political speak
gengiskhan
08-04-2024, 01:57 PM
LeBron prefers to beat 70 win teams. Let's see MJ do that.
MJ is the cryptonite to LeBalco
MJ is The greatest to ever do it....
Here is what MJ actually does to 70 wins teams.....
1990 - 1998 MJ never ever loses 3 games in a row to make sure those 70 wins teams are actually stuck with << 69 wins in reagular season every year.
Thats GOAT for you.
LeColluder LeSuperTeamHopper also tried doing this but ended up making sure team gets pass 72-10 and actually becomes "overrated"
sdot_thadon
08-04-2024, 05:12 PM
against The best physical defense ever of 1990s decade.
With today's NO hand check, NO blood NO foul ules, 1993 ECF MJ will shoot 60%FG.
I hate this line of thinking for you and guys like you. Everyone wants these hypotheticals to be so simple and only work their way. I agree Mj could be just as effective if not more in today's game but boiling it down to no touch is shallow thinking. Yes there's no handchecking but there's also in turn better defenders if they are able to be elite despite not being allowed to touch. And way more intricate defensive schemes against the right coaches and video of his every move on the court to study his tendencies, analytics to know where he's weakest on the floor. He's gonna be great in any era with a basketball but there's a give and take that balances shit out. I used to be of the belief that guys like Mj or Lebron could average 50 or 60 in the 60s. But if you look at the differences in the game it's not as likely as originally thought.
gengiskhan
08-05-2024, 03:28 PM
I hate this line of thinking for you and guys like you. Everyone wants these hypotheticals to be so simple and only work their way. I agree Mj could be just as effective if not more in today's game but boiling it down to no touch is shallow thinking. Yes there's no handchecking but there's also in turn better defenders if they are able to be elite despite not being allowed to touch. And way more intricate defensive schemes against the right coaches and video of his every move on the court to study his tendencies, analytics to know where he's weakest on the floor. He's gonna be great in any era with a basketball but there's a give and take that balances shit out. I used to be of the belief that guys like Mj or Lebron could average 50 or 60 in the 60s. But if you look at the differences in the game it's not as likely as originally thought.
You can hate all you want.......
Reality is.......
1987-1990 MJ saw the Bad Boys "The Jordan Rules" cage defense
1992-1996 MJ was NYK's "stippling" rough physical defense, the best of the 90s decade.
LBJ saw neither! and never!
All LBJ saw was Kawhi's "klaw" in 2014 finals and started panicking.
LBJ would've been murdered by Bad Boys and 90s NYK.
LBJ numbers will never be the same in 1987-1996.
sdot_thadon
08-05-2024, 05:58 PM
You can hate all you want.......
Reality is.......
1987-1990 MJ saw the Bad Boys "The Jordan Rules" cage defense
1992-1996 MJ was NYK's "stippling" rough physical defense, the best of the 90s decade.
LBJ saw neither! and never!
All LBJ saw was Kawhi's "klaw" in 2014 finals and started panicking.
LBJ would've been murdered by Bad Boys and 90s NYK.
LBJ numbers will never be the same in 1987-1996.
Mj saw the "send him left and clobber him if he gets by you" defense " lol and the lite version of it with the Knicks. Nobody would confuse either team for being a thibs schemed or pop schemed squad which not only had elite x&o' s but elite defenders to put them into action. You could even throw the 2000s Pistons into that mix along with the Bulls, Celtics, Spurs, he'll even the Pacers were similar to at minimum the 90s Knicks defensively. Main difference though and it's a huge one. Lebron faced more elite defenders at his position and as direct matchups than Mj did. Hell more elite players just in general at sf during Lebrons run than sg during mjs run.
Looks like you guys can never be done with the 90s, after all...
3ba11
08-05-2024, 08:42 PM
.
MJ and Lebron shot 40% against these teams but still won:
1993 Knicks'....... 60 wins'... #1 defense'.... #5 SRS
2015 Bulls.......... 50 wins.. #11 defense... #10 SRS
MJ averaged 32 on 40.0% compared to Lebron's 26 on 39.9%
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MJ and Lebron shot 40% against these teams but still won:
1993 Knicks'....... 60 wins'... #1 defense'.... #5 SRS
2015 Bulls.......... 50 wins.. #11 defense... #10 SRS
MJ averaged 32 on 40.0% compared to Lebron's 26 on 39.9%
No one cares about what MJ did against grocery baggers and car mechanics. LeBron played against professionals.
3ba11
08-05-2024, 09:10 PM
LeBron played against professionals.
Lies - Puerto Rico, Greece and others blew him away with his all-star teams in 04' and 06'... Kobe was required to redeem the team in 08'..
d-duh-uh-uh-uhhh-uhhh
:roll:
gengiskhan
08-05-2024, 10:43 PM
Where you been bro? You went ghost mode after your '80 Olympics blunder.
Bru.......seriously.
There was no "blunder" from my side.
I know 1980 moscow olympics were boycotted.
There is USA dropping out like Pu55y in 1980 and USA losing like Pu55y in 1988.
In between is, 1984 "amateur" MJ and 1992 "Pro" MJ.
Now compare this to 2004 LeBroze Pu55y.
He sat out because "Head Coach benched his talentless a55" :lol :roll: :facepalm
1987_Lakers
08-05-2024, 10:46 PM
I know 1980 moscow olympics were boycotted.
https://media.tenor.com/CtN2CSsMQBkAAAAM/sarcastic-okay.gif
gengiskhan
08-05-2024, 10:49 PM
https://media.tenor.com/CtN2CSsMQBkAAAAM/sarcastic-okay.gif
whatever kid!
You lose every olympics you pu55y out of. out of fear?. out of politics? out of cold war?........dont matter.
1984 MJ restored the faith by winning Gold
1992 MJ restored the faith by winning Gold.
2004 LBJ restored the Pu55y mentality by losing both Gold and Silver.
Lil Gengy foaming at the mouth :roll:
1987_Lakers
08-05-2024, 11:01 PM
https://i.gifer.com/MJdi.gif
:lol
gengiskhan
08-05-2024, 11:32 PM
.
MJ and Lebron shot 40% against these teams but still won:
1993 Knicks'....... 60 wins'... #1 defense'.... #5 SRS
2015 Bulls.......... 50 wins.. #11 defense... #10 SRS
MJ averaged 32 on 40.0% compared to Lebron's 26 on 39.9%
1993 NYK team was the SINGLE BEST DEFENSIVE team of 1990s decade!
Reason they went up 2-0 against 1993 Bulls at home. Not that MJ shot bad FG% of anything....
1993 NYK comprehensively beat 1993 Bulls in Game 1 and Game 2.
1993 NYK completely exposed 1993 Bulls weakest of the weak front court big time in Game 1 and Game 2.
The trio of Ewing-Oakman-Mason really put pu55y, timid Horace led Bulls front court into tail spin.
than MJ happened as usual. Pippen had unsual, rare, consistancy in this series.
the best team did not win 1993 ring imo.
3ba11
08-05-2024, 11:33 PM
whatever kid!
You lose every olympics you pu55y out of. out of fear?. out of politics? out of cold war?........dont matter.
1984 MJ restored the faith by winning Gold
1992 MJ restored the faith by winning Gold.
2004 LBJ restored the Pu55y mentality by losing both Gold and Silver.
no one has more stunning losses than Lebron, such as losing as a massive favorite in high school, the 04' Olympics, 06' World Games, 08' bed-wetting, 09' upset, 10' meltdown, 11' goat choke, 14' record loss....
I mean... it's STUNNING... I'm barely halfway done.
Iverson-ball in the 15' Finals, "Stockton outplays MJ" ring in 16', record loss in 17', record loss in 18', lottery in 19', 2nd option chip in 20', 1st Round loss with preseason fav in 21', missed play-in in 22', 1st round sweep in 23', 4-0 sweep in 24'
who lost this much?... NO ONE
i mean..... it's stunning and mind-boggling.....
gengiskhan
08-05-2024, 11:39 PM
no one has more stunning losses than Lebron, such as losing as a massive favorite in high school, the 04' Olympics, 06' World Games, 08' bed-wetting, 09' upset, 10' meltdown, 11' goat choke, 14' record loss....
I mean... it's STUNNING... I'm barely halfway done.
Iverson-ball in the 15' Finals, "Stockton outplays MJ" ring in 16', record loss in 17', record loss in 18', lottery in 19', 2nd option chip in 20', 1st Round loss with preseason fav in 21', missed play-in in 22', 1st round sweep in 23', 4-0 sweep in 24'
who lost this much?... NO ONE
i mean..... it's stunning and mind-boggling.....
reason he aint ever Top 10 GOATs!
maybe #10 at most, if LeLongevity holds up against upcoming post-PEDs controversy in 2027.
thats about it. His game is ugly. His shot is ugly. He flops and complain way too much.
He is like a giant, PEDs swollen, cry baby beaching about every little thing.
3ball and "gengiskhan" itt
https://d39l2hkdp2esp1.cloudfront.net/img/photo/262327/262327_00_2x.jpg?20220906064456
3ba11
08-05-2024, 11:49 PM
reason he aint ever Top 10 GOATs!
maybe #10 at most, if LeLongevity holds up against upcoming post-PEDs controversy in 2027.
thats about it. His game is ugly. His shot is ugly. He flops and complain way too much.
He is like a giant, PEDs swollen, cry baby beaching about every little thing.
yeah the ped's are crazy... If Barry Bonds' wife was caught receiving PED's, everyone would know that Bonds was officially CAUGHT - but not Lebron - he gets away with it as the media slides it under the rug.
gengiskhan
08-05-2024, 11:59 PM
yeah the ped's are crazy... If Barry Bonds' wife was caught receiving PED's, everyone would know that Bonds was officially CAUGHT - but not Lebron - he gets away with it as the media slides it under the rug.
NBA is just waiting for LBJ retirement.
Give a good 2 years research after LBJ retirement.
That NBA PED scandal is erupting like volcano.
LBJ will be front and center of it.
MLB had it. big time in 90s.
NBAs time is coming.
sdot_thadon
08-06-2024, 10:04 AM
3ball and "gengiskhan" itt
https://d39l2hkdp2esp1.cloudfront.net/img/photo/262327/262327_00_2x.jpg?20220906064456
No shit.:oldlol:
gengiskhan
08-06-2024, 02:20 PM
He shot 8 of 24 in game 6.
Carry on.
Go watch Game 2, 1993 ECSF vs CAVS where MJ re-aggrevated shooting wrist injury and scored only 18 pts (Compared to Game 1 43 pts eruption on Jordan stopper, Wilkins).
Game 3 and Game 4 were won by MJ still leading with his LEFT hand layups and even flying LEFT hand dunk......
carry on kiddo.......
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