Is Kamala Harris actually going to become president?

[SouBeachTalents]

When the news first broke that Biden was dropping out, I thought they were going to pick a candidate at the convention, or nominate someone else, I just couldn't imagine they'd go with someone as unpopular and seemingly unimpressive as Kamala Harris.

I thought she had no chance to ever win a general election, especially considering she got 0% of the vote in the primary 4 years ago. But the polls have changed pretty dramatically since she became the nominee, and show her as having a legitimate chance to win.

I know the election is still 3 months away, but is this for real? Is this something that's sustainable, or is it just a fluke due to the relief Biden is no longer on the ticket? Honestly, her winning would be even more surprising to me than Trump in 2016.

[Real Men Wear Green]

If Trump makes the mistake of debating her I think she's winning.

[1987_Lakers]

Might be a fluke rise in the polls. The same thing happened to McCain when he announced Sarah Palin as his VP, it temporarily helped his polls numbers, but then the public got to know her. I think Kamala will suffer a similar fate.

[John8204]

I generally don't trust polling and I think people were going to turn out for Biden. But I think people are going to furn out in droves for Harris. She wasn't going to win a primary but a national election against Trump and his ilk voters are motivated.

The Republican campaign against Harris sucks, I think most people with critical thinking skills and a memory know Trump isn't going to do anything for them. Whenever we get into specifics he falls flat on his face combine that with his supporters who come off as extremists and idiots.

[SouBeachTalents]

Might be a fluke rise in the polls. The same thing happened to McCain when he announced Sarah Palin as his VP, it temporarily helped his polls numbers, but then the public got to know her. I think Kamala will suffer a similar fate.
Bro, that's literally what I was thinking :lol There are pretty significant differences though, as cringe as Kamala can be, she's not the national embarrassment Palin was, Bush was an immensely unpopular president and the economy was on the verge of a depression, so the Republican candidate was dead man walking heading into that election, and Obama was a far more popular candidate in 2008 amongst the general population than Trump could ever be.

McCain just had no chance in '08 regardless of who his VP was, I think Harris has a better shot than he did, but I'll be very curious to see how this all plays out.

[1987_Lakers]

Bro, that's literally what I was thinking :lol There are pretty significant differences though, as cringe as Kamala can be, she's not the national embarrassment Palin was, Bush was an immensely unpopular president and the economy was on the verge of a depression, so the Republican candidate was dead man walking heading into that election, and Obama was a far more popular candidate in 2008 amongst the general population than Trump could ever be.

McCain just had no chance in '08 regardless of who his VP was, I think Harris has a better shot than he did, but I'll be very curious to see how this all plays out.

I did some digging, McCain announced Palin as his VP on August 29th.

After the announcement, the polls had McCain ahead of Obama in early-mid September. Obama took the lead again in late September and never looked back.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2008/mccain-vs-obama

[Real Men Wear Green]

The Harris anouncement has nothing to do with McCain's VP pick polling bump. If Harris gets a bump when her VP pick is announced that may be a similar thing but Harris's current surge has a lot to do with the fact that a lot of people hate Trump and thought things were looking bleak after Biden's debate performance.

[bladefd]

The Harris anouncement has nothing to do with McCain's VP pick polling bump. If Harris gets a bump when her VP pick is announced that may be a similar thing but Harris's current surge has a lot to do with the fact that a lot of people hate Trump and thought things were looking bleak after Biden's debate performance.

Imagine a candidate being so flawed and hated that even someone like kamala hsrris is leading over him :roll:

Even grandpa Joe wrecked him in 2020 lmao

[1987_Lakers]

Imagine a candidate being so flawed and hated that even someone like kamala hsrris is leading over him :roll:

She's not though.

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-harris

Trump still has a slight lead

When Palin was announced as VP, McCain actually took the lead over Obama.

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.realclearpolling.com/maps/president/2024/no-toss-up/electoral-college

[warriorfan]

Imagine a candidate being so flawed and hated that even someone like kamala hsrris is leading over him :roll:

Even grandpa Joe wrecked him in 2020 lmao

you are a f.ucking loser

[Patrick Chewing]

If Trump makes the mistake of debating her I think she's winning.

Why are you ass backwards on everything? That woman is a cackling idiot. All Trump has to do is bring up the border and that bitch is toast.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Why are you ass backwards on everything? That woman is a cackling idiot. All Trump has to do is bring up the border and that bitch is toast.

Too bad Trump has already told his advisors he's going to make the campaign totally about Kamala's race. He's stupid enough to think that his debacle with the black journalists has any play outside his cult.

[Off the Court]

The right is having a hell of time explaining what makes her such an awful candidate.

Her biggest knock is that her laugh is a cackle.

Voters who are actually on the fence need something real.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Why are you ass backwards on everything? That woman is a cackling idiot. All Trump has to do is bring up the border and that bitch is toast.

As a rational person I take it as a positive sign that we agree on nothing. If you were a little bit smarter you would realize that your appeal is wasted because I don't respect your opinions or thinking in general.

[TheMan]

She has a better shot than Biden did :lol Gonna go down to if the Democrats and the independents come out as strong as 2020 to keep Trump away from the Oval Office. The anti Trump vote is there, all Harris has to prove is that she can string together sentences and all of a sudden, Trump is now the old man in this election.

[warriorfan]

As a rational person I take it as a positive sign that we agree on nothing. If you were a little bit smarter you would realize that your appeal is wasted because I don't respect your opinions or thinking in general.

rmwg right now like

https://i.postimg.cc/WpJb7LZc/IMG-3985.jpg

[Patrick Chewing]

The right is having a hell of time explaining what makes her such an awful candidate.

Her biggest knock is that her laugh is a cackle.

Voters who are actually on the fence need something real.

She is just an extension of Joe Biden policy-wise. So I’m not even sure why she’s gotten a bump in the polls other than the fact that she’s a woman of color. But if Joe Biden’s approval rating was in the take, then it makes no sense why she would get a jump in approval. She’s a worse Joe Biden.

[ILLsmak]

The right is having a hell of time explaining what makes her such an awful candidate.

Her biggest knock is that her laugh is a cackle.

Voters who are actually on the fence need something real.

She's been a joke for years. All you need is that one talking point that she didn't even win one delegate. She's probably not even deserving of VP.

That being said, sure she could win. It's amazing how close it is, but Trump is Trump. Again, I am cool w/ Trump, but he is universally disliked and tends to say shit that gets him in a lot of trouble. I think Vance is worse, though. Vance might actually be the weight they are hanging on him right now. I dunno who that dude is even is, but somehow he came out even more disliked than Trump ( cuz Trump at least has supporters.) I think he should dump him asap. Bad look, but shit is going down down down. I think Trump w/ a decent VP wins, and just like I said with Joe (when people were on that Joe is ok, or even before when they were like I want so and so and so and so... it's like Nah, you get Joe,) TIME WILL SHOW YOU why she is trash.

She definitely can win. Biden could have won. Trump is such a strange( weird? ) candidate it's almost all about people's impression of him.

-Smak

[Hey Yo]

If Trump makes the mistake of debating her I think she's winning.

Winning by not knowing about the things that she'll be debating?

:durantunimpressed:

[Patrick Chewing]

As a rational person I take it as a positive sign that we agree on nothing. If you were a little bit smarter you would realize that your appeal is wasted because I don't respect your opinions or thinking in general.

Rationality and Liberalism do not exist in reality.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Just let Trump and JD speak freely.

Kamala's got this in the bag.

[Norcaliblunt]

The right is having a hell of time explaining what makes her such an awful candidate.

Her biggest knock is that her laugh is a cackle.

Voters who are actually on the fence need something real.

Uh being the DA of Alameda county California automatically dismisses her from being a person a real left wing progressive would vote for.

[Norcaliblunt]

Like seriously are we gonna put the nuke button in the hands of a person whose career is DUI’s and drug possession charges? Lmao.

[Bill Gates]

If the election happened right now I think she loses. Just like Hillary she would win the popular vote but the swing states are showing Trump right now, he would take the electoral college.

Now that said, Kamala does seem to have a ton of momentum going, and every day it seems like the polls inch closer in her favor. If she picks the right VP that would be another momentum builder. Trump failed there with Vance. She needs to keep having more Megan The Stallion moments. She had a packed house that night and it was something that Biden never did. If she has another event of that nature with Taylor Swift or other big names the momentum will build off that.

[Patrick Chewing]

Like seriously are we gonna put the nuke button in the hands of a person whose career is DUI’s and drug possession charges? Lmao.

(Insert Kamala cackle)

[Lakers Legend#32]

(Insert Kamala cackle)

This is the best they can come up with.

[Real Men Wear Green]

This is the best they can come up with.

Apparently her laugh, race and dating history are very important.

[Media Moderator]

Kamala had one big job in her 4 year term as VP. Control the border. She failed at that about as bad as anyone can possibly fail at a job. Delonte West could probably run a pharmacy better than Kamala ran the border.

She is horribly, painfully, indisputably incompetent getting anything done right

[diamenz]

Apparently her laugh, race and dating history are very important.

her policy positions flip flop quicker than her lips lock on some capital hill c0ck. she has no ideology. one day she's pro-m4a the next day she's taking $ from the health insurance companies. she's part of the problem. anyone voting for the kamala may as well be walking around with a shirt that says "i'm a sucker".

[Media Moderator]

her policy positions flip flop quicker than her lips lock on some capital hill c0ck. she has no ideology. one day she's pro-m4a the next day she's taking $ from the health insurance companies. she's part of the problem. anyone voting for the kamala may as well be walking around with a shirt that says "i'm a sucker".

She's always been like that. One day bragging about smoking pot in college, the next about her record of locking up hundreds of black men for enjoying the same herb

[Real Men Wear Green]

her policy positions flip flop quicker than her lips lock on some capital hill c0ck. she has no ideology. one day she's pro-m4a the next day she's taking $ from the health insurance companies. she's part of the problem. anyone voting for the kamala may as well be walking around with a shirt that says "i'm a sucker".

And your hero donated money to get her elected.

[BurningHammer]

Apparently her laugh, race and dating history are very important.

At least the laugh might have a point. Remember Howard Dean?

[warriorfan]

Apparently her laugh, race and dating history are very important.

Weren’t you one of the guys who would obsess about stormy daniels? lol

[Real Men Wear Green]

Weren’t you one of the guys who would obsess about stormy daniels? lol

Interesting. Please point out the evidence of my Stormy Daniels obsession. You won't find it in your crack pipe so you'll have to put that down for a moment.

[diamenz]

And your hero donated money to get her elected.

i attack kamala from the left and you STILL bring up trump? :roll:

[Wardell Curry]

Nobody wants Kamala Harris. She didn't even have a hint of a prayer when she ran in 2020 during the primaries.

They just don't want Donald Trump.

The most surprising, or I guess maybe even unsurprising part of all of this, is the fact that the will of the people has been blatantly undermined so that Harris wouldn't need to go through the primaries, and that the people just go along with it and don't even question it.

Then again, like I said, this isn't about anything other than Trump vs Not Trump.

[John8204]

Nobody wants Kamala Harris. She didn't even have a hint of a prayer when she ran in 2020 during the primaries.

They just don't want Donald Trump.

The most surprising, or I guess maybe even unsurprising part of all of this, is the fact that the will of the people has been blatantly undermined so that Harris wouldn't need to go through the primaries, and that the people just go along with it and don't even question it.

Then again, like I said, this isn't about anything other than Trump vs Not Trump.

The primaries weren't a thing until JFK, every other presidency was made by the parties establishment. When you've made your position Joe Biden is a bad president because he's to old to serve how can you be angry when he steps down. I'm pretty sure the Pennsylvanian shooter understood how important conventions were which is why he took his shot at Trump right before it.

When the other political party (that does not win the popular vote) claims the election was stolen (without any evidence) and your main candidate gets the nomination (while being under indictment after indictment). It's not a failure of democracy or a coup to run the best candidate for the job.

[Off the Court]

Nobody wants Kamala Harris. She didn't even have a hint of a prayer when she ran in 2020 during the primaries.

They just don't want Donald Trump.

The most surprising, or I guess maybe even unsurprising part of all of this, is the fact that the will of the people has been blatantly undermined so that Harris wouldn't need to go through the primaries, and that the people just go along with it and don't even question it.

Then again, like I said, this isn't about anything other than Trump vs Not Trump.

Well she is polling against Trump better than Biden was. So at least some of it is about her.

[warriorfan]

Interesting. Please point out the evidence of my Stormy Daniels obsession. You won't find it in your crack pipe so you'll have to put that down for a moment.

please point out the evidence of you not being a fat piece of shit who neglects his children while he whines about the orange man 24/7

[Hey Yo]

Nvm.... won't post correct YT link

[Real Men Wear Green]

please point out the evidence of you not being a fat piece of shit who neglects his children while he whines about the orange man 24/7

The reason why it hurts you so badly when I go after you for being a crackhead is that it's true. You on the other hand just come at me with whatever random rage is generated by your coked-up baking soda brain. It's just not going to have the same effect.

[RRR3]

The reason why it hurts you so badly when I go after you for being a crackhead is that it's true. You on the other hand just come at me with whatever random rage is generated by your coked-up baking soda brain. It's just not going to have the same effect.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[warriorfan]

The reason why it hurts you so badly when I go after you for being a crackhead is that it's true. You on the other hand just come at me with whatever random rage is generated by your coked-up baking soda brain. It's just not going to have the same effect.

it’s sad your kids are begging for attention from their father but he’s too busy spending it on donald trump

:ohwell:

[Bill Gates]

Q: Is Kamala Harris actually going to become president?

https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-hits-record-lead-over-trump-new-poll-shows-1934880

Certainly looks that way now

[Real Men Wear Green]

Q: Is Kamala Harris actually going to become president?

https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-hits-record-lead-over-trump-new-poll-shows-1934880

Certainly looks that way now

Things are looking better but Bush and Trump have both won the presidency while losing the popular vote. And there's still 3 months for something bad to happen, like if this downturn becomes a recession and Biden/Harris get the blame. And they may be plotting something with their Supreme Court majority.

But I do give Biden credit for swallowing his pride and stepping aside for the greater good. There is no way Trump would do something like that and if he takes the ABC debate he's going to come out of it in the same spot Biden was in. Not that Vance would have any shot but if they had chosen Haley this might already be over.

[BurningHammer]

https://i.redd.it/68622vofu4hd1.jpeg

[Patrick Chewing]

https://i.redd.it/68622vofu4hd1.jpeg

You're the wrestling dweeb, you can't tell that Trump is in a bigger arena? :facepalm

[BurningHammer]

You're the wrestling dweeb, you can't tell that Trump is in a bigger arena? :facepalm

Sadly, it is the same arena; Liacouras Center at Temple University.

https://whyy.org/articles/election-2024-trump-rally-temple-university-protests/

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/vice-president-kamala-harris-campaign-liacouras-center-north-philadelphia-temple-university/

[RRR3]

Sadly, it is the same arena; Liacouras Center at Temple University.

https://whyy.org/articles/election-2024-trump-rally-temple-university-protests/

https://www.cbsnews.com/philadelphia/news/vice-president-kamala-harris-campaign-liacouras-center-north-philadelphia-temple-university/
Hippopottapatty is retarded :yaohappy:

[999Guy]

This Tim Walz guy seems pretty sharp. They're gonna just crush Trump and Vance. I was just observing up till Walz had his speech. Didn't really seem to be a clear direction for the election until now. There's no path to out-competing Harris and Walz for those stupid independents who would've actually voted for Trump over Biden but would actually consider a democrat. If they would even consider any democrat, they're probably voting for Harris.

But Harris and Walz are just not retarded or loaded with baggage or anything. I expect Harris to just just keep gaining momentum. And if Trump does and says stupid shit under the pressure of the momentum I think he'll make it worse.

Trump needs an angle dummies can eat up fast. He needs something to tie Harris and Walz to that sticks. Otherwise they're just gonna talk circles around them.

[diamenz]

This Tim Walz guy seems pretty sharp. They're gonna just crush Trump and Vance. I was just observing up till Walz had his speech. Didn't really seem to be a clear direction for the election until now. There's no path to out-competing Harris and Walz for those stupid independents who would've actually voted for Trump over Biden but would actually consider a democrat. If they would even consider any democrat, they're probably voting for Harris.

But Harris and Walz are just not retarded or loaded with baggage or anything. I expect Harris to just just keep gaining momentum. And if Trump does and says stupid shit under the pressure of the momentum I think he'll make it worse.

Trump needs an angle dummies can eat up fast. He needs something to tie Harris and Walz to that sticks. Otherwise they're just gonna talk circles around them.

yeah the dems are making noise in the media rn and have the momentum. polls are up too. the republicans would have been a lot better off running against joe at this point. although this is the honeymoon period for the harris campaign so there's that to keep in consideration.

...i really don't know what vance brings to the table for trump. i can think of a handful of better picks.

[iamgine]

yeah the dems are making noise in the media rn and have the momentum. polls are up too. the republicans would have been a lot better off running against joe at this point. although this is the honeymoon period for the harris campaign so there's that to keep in consideration.

...i really don't know what vance brings to the table for trump. i can think of a handful of better picks.

I think for Trump, Vance bring continuity and loyalty as he brings a lot of the same views and vision. In other words, he's prepped to be Trump's successor just like Biden was Obama's successor. They might underestimate Kamala that much that they don't think they need more votes. And that might be proven correct, we'll see in a couple months.

[Bill Gates]

Things are looking better but Bush and Trump have both won the presidency while losing the popular vote. And there's still 3 months for something bad to happen, like if this downturn becomes a recession and Biden/Harris get the blame. And they may be plotting something with their Supreme Court majority.

But I do give Biden credit for swallowing his pride and stepping aside for the greater good. There is no way Trump would do something like that and if he takes the ABC debate he's going to come out of it in the same spot Biden was in. Not that Vance would have any shot but if they had chosen Haley this might already be over.

The next Q GDP is projected to come in around +2.5% growth. No recession in sight so far. Also we have the prospect of the FED cutting rates soon which will cause a boost in the economy.

As far as the electoral college goes, Kamala is out-polling Trump in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan. Those are the important ones. Trump still has Arizona, Georgia, and Nevada. Less important.

Anything can happen, and we can see positions change in the blink of an eye with one event (like a failed assassination) However right now it's looking really good for the Dems.

[1987_Lakers]

As far as the electoral college goes, Kamala is out-polling Trump in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan. Those are the important ones. Trump still has Arizona, Georgia, and Nevada. Less important.

Wrong

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/pennsylvania/trump-vs-harris
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/wisconsin/trump-vs-harris

[Bill Gates]

Wrong

https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/pennsylvania/trump-vs-harris
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/wisconsin/trump-vs-harris

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/wisconsin/
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/pennsylvania/


538 is showing Harris winning both states, but fair point that other polls are showing other things.

[1987_Lakers]

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/wisconsin/
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/pennsylvania/


538 is showing Harris winning both states, but fair point that other polls are showing other things.

The same 538 that predicted Hillary to beat Trump? lol.

[Bill Gates]

The same 538 that predicted Hillary to beat Trump? lol.

They predicted her to win the popular vote and she did. I don't recall their breakdown of the swing states. And 538 themselves are not polling, they are averaging out other polls.

[1987_Lakers]

They predicted her to win the popular vote and she did. I don't recall their breakdown of the swing states.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

[Bill Gates]

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/
Okay fair enough, polls aren't prefect and they were off there. I will say though that they were much more on-target with the 2020 election. Maybe the 2016 election caused them to refine their methods.

Either way I'm not viewing the polls as certainty.

[Lakers Legend#32]

"Right now, the Republican Party is basically the Titanic. We're slowly sinking, we have a band playing on the deck telling everybody it's fine. And meanwhile, Trump is running around trying to find women's clothing and get on the first lifeboat."
— Adam Kinzinger

[TheMan]

Basically any run of the mill Republican would be winning right now in my opinion. Picking Trump again whom most Americans don't like was a big mistake.

[Patrick Chewing]

Basically any run of the mill Republican would be winning right now in my opinion. Picking Trump again whom most Americans don't like was a big mistake.

Trump received the most votes of any Republican in history.

Any run of the mill Republican would have no chance against the Democrats. You still just don’t get it. You’ve been blind these past 8 years apparently.

[TheMan]

Trump received the most votes of any Republican in history.

Any run of the mill Republican would have no chance against the Democrats. You still just don’t get it. You’ve been blind these past 8 years apparently.
Didn't Trump lose the popular vote by 3 million votes vs Hillary, then by more than double that vs Sleepy Joe? It's hilarious you can't see how unpopular Trump is outside his cult :lol The only reason Trump has any shot at all is because we have an Electoral College system, by any other system in place in every democracy around the world where it's determined by popular vote, Trump would have zero shot at the White House.

Again, like other posters have mentioned it here before, it's Trump vs Not Trump.

[ZenMaster]

Didn't Trump lose the popular vote by 3 million votes vs Hillary, then by more than double that vs Sleepy Joe? It's hilarious you can't see how unpopular Trump is outside his cult :lol The only reason Trump has any shot at all is because we have an Electoral College system, by any other system in place in every democracy around the world where it's determined by popular vote, Trump would have zero shot at the White House.

Again, like other posters have mentioned it here before, it's Trump vs Not Trump.

Dems cheated their ass off in the 2020 election, both mules ballot dumping and double scanning votes is on video key swing states. States/counties in question haven't been able to produce the ballots or the ballot images they said they had for Biden after the fact, obviously because they had to cover it up.

Who gives a fkuck though with only 3 months to the next election, it's old news and nothing's going to change.

But popular voting numbers are getting to the point of being meaningless and can no longer be trusted, why? Because dems have been importing voters over the border which they're trying to make legal.

https://x.com/BasedMikeLee/status/1817998293848183105


https://youtu.be/hA-RCEvtvjg

I want to ask you now though, because back in 2020 I asked on here how you guys are voting these woke policies. To that question all you did was scream about how there is no woke agenda and how Biden is basically the same as Trump, just better mannered and more presidential.
But now you have a candidate(that you never voted for) and by her own admission she's super woke.
How do you feel that dems went super woke with their candidate and never gave you the chance to vote for someone else?

https://x.com/JoeyMannarinoUS/status/1820543130682499572

[TheMan]

Dems cheated their ass off in the 2020 election, both mules ballot dumping and double scanning votes is on video key swing states. States/counties in question haven't been able to produce the ballots or the ballot images they said they had for Biden after the fact, obviously because they had to cover it up.

Who gives a fkuck though with only 3 months to the next election, it's old news and nothing's going to change.

But popular voting numbers are getting to the point of being meaningless and can no longer be trusted, why? Because dems have been importing voters over the border which they're trying to make legal.

https://x.com/BasedMikeLee/status/1817998293848183105


https://youtu.be/hA-RCEvtvjg

I want to ask you now though, because back in 2020 I asked on here how you guys are voting these woke policies. To that question all you did was scream about how there is no woke agenda and how Biden is basically the same as Trump, just better mannered and more presidential.
But now you have a candidate(that you never voted for) and by her own admission she's super woke.
How do you feel that dems went super woke with their candidate and never gave you the chance to vote for someone else?

https://x.com/JoeyMannarinoUS/status/1820543130682499572
That's an absolute crock of shit. Trump's lawyers have never produced a shred of evidence of this massive "electoral fraud", even with judges appointed by Trump himself. Fox News got sued and lost for spreading lies about fraudulent voting machines. Y'all talk a lot of shit about election fraud but produce nothing in tangible terms. Your goofy illegal aliens voting is a conspiracy theory that has been debunked time and again.

Having said all that, I couldn't care less about Harris or Trump, they both can suck a bag of *****. All I'm chiming in with is how I see this election going, couple of weeks ago I thought Trump would coast to an easy victory vs brain dead Biden and I said as much. Harris certainly gives the Dems a much better chance at winning but only because independents who don't like Trump see her as a viable option instead of Biden who clearly is in the throes of dementia:lol

Trump vs Not Trump, bro...that simple.

[ZenMaster]

That's an absolute crock of shit. Trump's lawyers have never produced a shred of evidence of this massive "electoral fraud", even with judges appointed by Trump himself. Fox News got sued and lost for spreading lies about fraudulent voting machines. Y'all talk a lot of shit about election fraud but produce nothing in tangible terms. Your goofy illegal aliens voting is a conspiracy theory that has been debunked time and again.

Having said all that, I couldn't care less about Harris or Trump, they both can suck a bag of *****. All I'm chiming in with is how I see this election going, couple of weeks ago I thought Trump would coast to an easy victory vs brain dead Biden and I said as much. Harris certainly gives the Dems a much better chance at winning but only because independents who don't like Trump see her as a viable option instead of Biden who clearly is in the throes of dementia:lol

Trump vs Not Trump, bro...that simple.

Was confirmed back in May that there were missing ballot images, double scanned votes and votes electronically added in Fulton county and rest of Georgia.

https://x.com/SteveLovesAmmo/status/1821238435689939158

https://x.com/realLizUSA/status/1787931381504307566

https://x.com/mevans5729/status/1802160855657611318

And this one is about dems getting busted in Michigan, but the FBI gave the investigation back to the entity doing the voter fraud and said they could just investigate themselves.

https://x.com/Real_RobN/status/1819840878216904814

But look, it's only 3 months to the next election, this stuff is old news and not worth the effort as absolutely nothing will happen from now until then.

[SATAN]

*hellbent on seeing chaos in Democratic nations*

:facepalm

[Bill Gates]

Remember when the Cyber Ninjas did a full hand recount in Maricopa only to find out that Joe Biden won by more than the official count said.

https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/mpx/2704722219/2021_08/1629516434614_n_lw_hobbs_210820_1920x1080-l7g4ee.jpg



Biden won

[Patrick Chewing]

Didn't Trump lose the popular vote by 3 million votes vs Hillary, then by more than double that vs Sleepy Joe? It's hilarious you can't see how unpopular Trump is outside his cult :lol The only reason Trump has any shot at all is because we have an Electoral College system, by any other system in place in every democracy around the world where it's determined by popular vote, Trump would have zero shot at the White House.

Again, like other posters have mentioned it here before, it's Trump vs Not Trump.

You don't know what you're talking about. What makes Trump "unpopular" in your eyes? The fact that Joe Biden got more votes? Joe Biden got more votes than Obama. Is Joe Biden more popular than Obama? You're a fool if you answer that question with a yes answer. Joe Biden is a joke amongst Republicans and Dems while Obama is heralded as some sort of great President and savior.

And the popular vote doesn't mean jack shit. Democrats notoriously turn out better at the polls while Republicans usually sit out elections for whatever reason. Combine that with the amount of ballot harvesting that Democrats did in 2020, then of course they found a way to beat Trump. Remember, Trump got more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016. So this whole garbage that you're spewing about Trump being unpopular is just that, garbage. The country is realistically split 50/50 or maybe 51/49 and a majority of the country probably leans to the Right when it comes to Conservative values.

There are millions of Democrats who vote Democrat because they actually believe the lies that the Democrats spew about their opponents. Most of all the hate towards Trump is manufactured hate and outrage. Trump was loved by both sides of the aisle prior to him running for President. And when he decided to take a side and threaten the power of the Democrats, then he became Public Enemy #1 and you believed everything they said about him. From being a Russian agent to being Hitler probably. Democrats may turn out to the polls more often, but Democrats have no ****ing clue what they are voting for most likely.

There is no candidate more popular than Trump right now. Trump is talked about 24/7. So to put the term "unpopular" in the same sentence as Donald Trump is downright silly. I thought you could see through the Democrat lies and smoke and mirrors the Democrats throw up on a daily basis, but I guess not. Estas perdido.

[John8204]

What makes Trump "unpopular"

Sexually assaulting dozens of women...

https://media.tenor.com/Pp6ALkn3z0oAAAAM/yeah-csi-miami.gif

[Patrick Chewing]

Sexually assaulting dozens of women...

https://media.tenor.com/Pp6ALkn3z0oAAAAM/yeah-csi-miami.gif

Yeahhhhhhhhhhhh there just is no evidence of that. But I can post about 20 videos right now of Joe Biden touching and grabbing and sniffing little children. And let's not forget that he would take showers with his teenage daughter.


https://media.tenor.com/Pp6ALkn3z0oAAAAM/yeah-csi-miami.gif

[bladefd]

That's an absolute crock of shit. Trump's lawyers have never produced a shred of evidence of this massive "electoral fraud", even with judges appointed by Trump himself. Fox News got sued and lost for spreading lies about fraudulent voting machines. Y'all talk a lot of shit about election fraud but produce nothing in tangible terms. Your goofy illegal aliens voting is a conspiracy theory that has been debunked time and again.

Having said all that, I couldn't care less about Harris or Trump, they both can suck a bag of *****. All I'm chiming in with is how I see this election going, couple of weeks ago I thought Trump would coast to an easy victory vs brain dead Biden and I said as much. Harris certainly gives the Dems a much better chance at winning but only because independents who don't like Trump see her as a viable option instead of Biden who clearly is in the throes of dementia:lol

Trump vs Not Trump, bro...that simple.

Mass voter fraud only happened in the mind of Trumpeters (not Trump himself btw who privately admitted to losing, only his supporters think otherwise) and eastern European/Russian propaganda machines (i.e. ZenMaster).

I'm expecting the same in November. The same schtick, the same boy who cried wolf. :oldlol: Get a better candidate than Lil Donny in 2028, and you won't have to cry wolf each time the vaunted red wave doesn't happen.

[Off the Court]

Kamala with a maxed out 20,000 capacity in Arizona right now. Something that Biden just couldn't do.

[MMM]

You don't know what you're talking about. What makes Trump "unpopular" in your eyes? The fact that Joe Biden got more votes? Joe Biden got more votes than Obama. Is Joe Biden more popular than Obama? You're a fool if you answer that question with a yes answer. Joe Biden is a joke amongst Republicans and Dems while Obama is heralded as some sort of great President and savior.

And the popular vote doesn't mean jack shit. Democrats notoriously turn out better at the polls while Republicans usually sit out elections for whatever reason. Combine that with the amount of ballot harvesting that Democrats did in 2020, then of course they found a way to beat Trump. Remember, Trump got more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016. So this whole garbage that you're spewing about Trump being unpopular is just that, garbage. The country is realistically split 50/50 or maybe 51/49 and a majority of the country probably leans to the Right when it comes to Conservative values.

There are millions of Democrats who vote Democrat because they actually believe the lies that the Democrats spew about their opponents. Most of all the hate towards Trump is manufactured hate and outrage. Trump was loved by both sides of the aisle prior to him running for President. And when he decided to take a side and threaten the power of the Democrats, then he became Public Enemy #1 and you believed everything they said about him. From being a Russian agent to being Hitler probably. Democrats may turn out to the polls more often, but Democrats have no ****ing clue what they are voting for most likely.

There is no candidate more popular than Trump right now. Trump is talked about 24/7. So to put the term "unpopular" in the same sentence as Donald Trump is downright silly. I thought you could see through the Democrat lies and smoke and mirrors the Democrats throw up on a daily basis, but I guess not. Estas perdido.

TheMAN just saying the fact that Trump is view unfavorably. Poll after poll tells us this. You might be giving us the context of why he is hated but the ballot question in November is do you love Trump or Hate him. Nobody is willingly voting for Kampala

[SATAN]

You don't know what you're talking about. What makes Trump "unpopular" in your eyes? The fact that Joe Biden got more votes? Joe Biden got more votes than Obama. Is Joe Biden more popular than Obama? You're a fool if you answer that question with a yes answer. Joe Biden is a joke amongst Republicans and Dems while Obama is heralded as some sort of great President and savior.

And the popular vote doesn't mean jack shit. Democrats notoriously turn out better at the polls while Republicans usually sit out elections for whatever reason. Combine that with the amount of ballot harvesting that Democrats did in 2020, then of course they found a way to beat Trump. Remember, Trump got more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016. So this whole garbage that you're spewing about Trump being unpopular is just that, garbage. The country is realistically split 50/50 or maybe 51/49 and a majority of the country probably leans to the Right when it comes to Conservative values.

There are millions of Democrats who vote Democrat because they actually believe the lies that the Democrats spew about their opponents. Most of all the hate towards Trump is manufactured hate and outrage. Trump was loved by both sides of the aisle prior to him running for President. And when he decided to take a side and threaten the power of the Democrats, then he became Public Enemy #1 and you believed everything they said about him. From being a Russian agent to being Hitler probably. Democrats may turn out to the polls more often, but Democrats have no ****ing clue what they are voting for most likely.

There is no candidate more popular than Trump right now. Trump is talked about 24/7. So to put the term "unpopular" in the same sentence as Donald Trump is downright silly. I thought you could see through the Democrat lies and smoke and mirrors the Democrats throw up on a daily basis, but I guess not. Estas perdido.

:roll::roll::roll:

[SATAN]

Go Democrats!!! :bowdown: :applause: :rockon: :cheers:

[Patrick Chewing]

TheMAN just saying the fact that Trump is view unfavorably. Poll after poll tells us this. You might be giving us the context of why he is hated but the ballot question in November is do you love Trump or Hate him. Nobody is willingly voting for Kampala

Half the country is voting for Trump. Trump received the most votes of any Republican candidate in history. Again, how is it that you guys view this as unfavorable? Trump had a 98% favorability rating within his Party. I honestly don’t think you guys know what you’re saying when you say that he’s unfavorable or not popular lol.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Half the country is voting for Trump. Trump received the most votes of any Republican candidate in history. Again, how is it that you guys view this as unfavorable? Trump had a 98% favorability rating within his Party. I honestly don’t think you guys know what you’re saying when you say that he’s unfavorable or not popular lol.

So I'm about to blow your mind here but please at least try to keep up:

The population is growing.

As the population grows, the number of voters grows.

Still with me? Yes? No? Well, either way, if the percentage of voters that are republican can remain republican then that proportional growth will lead to:

More republican voters.

Thus the man that the republicans nominate for president will be constantly resetting this record so long as he does not get photographed wearing a dress or suggest that mental instability is a good reason to take away someone's semi-automatic rifle after the Convention.

I would normally hope that that clarifies things for you but you are a moron. Maybe one of your alts can explain it to the rest of your personalities. But probably not.

[TheMan]

Chewster, don't shoot the messenger, all I'm going off on is the fact he lost the popular vote both times he's run as the GOP presidential candidate to two mid Democrats. It's a guarantee he's going to lose it again this November. He's still in the ballgame because of the electoral college. His unfavorables improved after the assassination attempt but they're back to his normal numbers. Most Americans don't like him, that's a fact.

Trump is a known political figure, either you like him or you don't, not a lot of in between with him, Harris OTOH isn't that well known so she has potential room to go up, she has a chance of nabbing the independents because if an independent isn't on board with Trump already, he's most likely never gonna be unless Harris proves to be so unlikable that they either vote for Trump/or sit this one out. We'll see though, the Democratic convention will be her biggest chance to either hit it out of the ballpark or fail miserably. I suspect her numbers will improve after the convention though, candidates always get an uptick afterwards. Remember, all Harris has to prove is that's she's competent and can string sentences together without losing her train of thought, this is how low the bar was set with Biden, including Trump's meandering "speeches" too, haha.

Crazy times, WOAT era for presidential candidates :lol

[ILLsmak]

Mass voter fraud only happened in the mind of Trumpeters (not Trump himself btw who privately admitted to losing, only his supporters think otherwise) and eastern European/Russian propaganda machines (i.e. ZenMaster).

I'm expecting the same in November. The same schtick, the same boy who cried wolf. :oldlol: Get a better candidate than Lil Donny in 2028, and you won't have to cry wolf each time the vaunted red wave doesn't happen.

Kinda think Trump is gonna win, perhaps convincingly. Crazy stuff can happen, but I can’t see how a debate will work for her.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/fault-lines/how-generic-can-kamala-harris-be

People are anti-Trump, but you have to think a portion of people will be upset how misled they were about Biden and the whole fiasco that followed. Trump is Trump, but I find it pretty hard to believe Harris is gonna pull more than Biden. She is vapid.

For all you can say about being stuck with Trump, imagine being stuck with Biden and then having Kamala installed. It’s bad on both sides, but she hasn’t even stepped into any vision for the country. I hope she doesn’t think she can laugh during the debate.

-Smak

[Lakers Legend#32]

There is a huge enthusiasm gap between Kamala's campaign and Trump's.

[MMM]

Half the country is voting for Trump. Trump received the most votes of any Republican candidate in history. Again, how is it that you guys view this as unfavorable? Trump had a 98% favorability rating within his Party. I honestly don’t think you guys know what you’re saying when you say that he’s unfavorable or not popular lol.

Let's not deny reality. The country is polarized which you mentioned all the time. Half the country loves him but the other half despises him. Some people like him despite how he talks. Some people support him but dont like him while a lot on the other side really dont like him at all and went as far as tried to get rid of him. This election is about Trump not Harris but when Biden was an option it was Biden being a corpse that was the balot question

[BurningHammer]

Kamala with a maxed out 20,000 capacity in Arizona right now. Something that Biden just couldn't do.

https://i.redd.it/i06cmldkvrhd1.jpeg

[John8204]

There is a huge enthusiasm gap between Kamala's campaign and Trump's.

It's what happens when you lose integrity by having people like Patrick Chewing stump for you. You can only rile up so many crazies before the normies chuck your guys out. It's why mid-terms are a great time for some parties and general elections are great for the other.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_hlvOzmYq0

It's kinda like how they are attacking Walz combat record when he served 24 years in the National Guard. compared to JD Vance who was a clerk in the green zone, Ron DeSantas who oversaw the torture detainees as a lawyer in Cuba and Trump who dodged the draft because of "bone spurs".

It's why the right is going to get crushed in November

[ZenMaster]

:facepalm


Mass voter fraud only happened in the mind of Trumpeters (not Trump himself btw who privately admitted to losing, only his supporters think otherwise) and eastern European/Russian propaganda machines (i.e. ZenMaster).

I'm expecting the same in November. The same schtick, the same boy who cried wolf. Get a better candidate than Lil Donny in 2028, and you won't have to cry wolf each time the vaunted red wave doesn't happen.

I know you'd like to put a bullet in the messenger, but it's local government in Georgia who ran this investigation with independent investigators, you can blame them or the Georgia election entity for refusing to provide images of all the votes like they were asked to. Blame the election workers in Fulton for scanning votes twice etc. Blame Dominion for not having the safeguard which they said they had of it not being possible to rescan votes etc.


Remember when the Cyber Ninjas did a full hand recount in Maricopa only to find out that Joe Biden won by more than the official count said.

I remember when they did a full hand recount, then went in front of the state board and said the numbers of physical votes match, but from what we've seen we should be doing signature matches to authenticate the votes have been given without fraud, will you allow us to do that? The board said no, Biden won and we now have our a short lined talking point that people can parrot in the public and feel smug.



So I'm about to blow your mind here but please at least try to keep up:

The population is growing.

As the population grows, the number of voters grows.

Still with me? Yes? No? Well, either way, if the percentage of voters that are republican can remain republican then that proportional growth will lead to:

More republican voters.

Thus the man that the republicans nominate for president will be constantly resetting this record so long as he does not get photographed wearing a dress or suggest that mental instability is a good reason to take away someone's semi-automatic rifle after the Convention.

I would normally hope that that clarifies things for you but you are a moron. Maybe one of your alts can explain it to the rest of your personalities. But probably not.

This is new, did you come up with this talking point yourself or you found it somewhere? Because the population is mainly growing due to immigrants being added and not the population itself having kids, but you're saying these new immigrants vote for Trump in same proportions as the natural population? Just asking because that theory goes against the observations of the DNC and their analysts found in the 2016 email leak, as well as most recent survey of voters in the 2020 election.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I'm not going to argue that the population is growing. I try to limit my interaction with morons.

[SATAN]

I'm not going to argue that the population is growing. I try to limit my interaction with morons.

:oldlol:

Go Harris! :rockon::applause::bowdown:

[ILLsmak]

There is a huge enthusiasm gap between Kamala's campaign and Trump's.

Imagine you were Joe Biden and became 20 years younger. haha. You'd be enthusiastic for awhile, too.

It goes to show how much repression there was among Biden 'supporters.' However, I feel that Kammy is close to the same in the end, or worse. It hasn't been that long since she became the nominee. Let's see what it looks like a bit after the DNC.

Like I said, TO ME, I find it hard to believe people can accept that their president was senile and they hid it for so long, pretended everything was OK until dude shit his pants on live TV. That would give me pause as a voter. I was turned off even by Obama in 08. We all did our happy dance, feeling like the world was going to change, then reality set in. This is way worse. Biden was senile in 2020. He's just near the end now.

If Kamala wants to do something impressive, she should step into some official duties and show us she can get something done. If she could do that, that might impress enough voters to win.

-Smak

[SATAN]

I am low key simping for Trump.

We know.

[ILLsmak]

We know.

Thanks for giving me a post without emojis.

-Smak

[ZenMaster]

I'm not going to argue that the population is growing. I try to limit my interaction with morons.

The population is definitely growing, but it's how it's growing and how that'll affect the US in the future which is interesting.


The number of immigrants to the U.S. jumped to the highest level in two decades this year, driving the nation’s overall population growth, according to estimates released Tuesday by the U.S. Census Bureau.

The United States added 1.6 million people, more than two-thirds of which came from international migration, bringing the nation’s population total to 334.9 million. It marks the second year in a row that immigration powered population gains.

Funny how you came up with the theory that nothing is wrong through some very crude analysis of "the number is growing" right as there's public concern about fertility rates, it's the same as Bill Gates who argues the economy is doing great because Starbucks has gained a bit more revenue and he hasn't gotten fired yet. Simple minds and simple thoughts.

[Real Men Wear Green]

It would be a good thing if people like you don't reproduce.

[diamenz]

It would be a good thing if people like you don't reproduce.

that's not very nice. zenmaster never goes the route of attacking people personally. you're more similar to donald trump in that regard than he is.

[Real Men Wear Green]

that's not very nice. zenmaster never goes the route of attacking people personally. you're more similar to donald trump in that regard than he is.
1: I've never claimed to be nice.

2: He has cast insults.

You'll just have to go make your safe space somewhere else.

[diamenz]

You'll just have to go make your safe space somewhere else.

that's not very nice either. i like it here.

[warriorfan]

that's not very nice. zenmaster never goes the route of attacking people personally. you're more similar to donald trump in that regard than he is.

real men wear green thinks about donald trump more than his own children

[ZenMaster]

It would be a good thing if people like you don't reproduce.

Unlucky for you, in the western world it's mostly people like me who actually want to reproduce.


that's not very nice. zenmaster never goes the route of attacking people personally. you're more similar to donald trump in that regard than he is.

Not entirely true, I'll definitely throw an insult when it's warranted, though I don't make it my mission or defense tactic when I don't know what to say like RMWG.

He's just a nasty lib showing his true colours, and there's a lot of that on ISH right now because they have no idea what to say. Kamala didn't put up any policies yet and they just got done arguing for years how Biden was a good and coherent President, so they're in a weird spot and resort to personal insults instead as a defense mechanism. Libs are who they are.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvgrvY_WAAE2hTS?format=jpg&name=large

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-019-12227-0

[Patrick Chewing]

Real Women Wear Green is just a whiny little bitch who threatened to call the FBI on me. :oldlol:

[diamenz]

He's just a nasty lib showing his true colours, and there's a lot of that on ISH right now because they have no idea what to say. Kamala didn't put up any policies yet and they just got done arguing for years how Biden was a good and coherent President, so they're in a weird spot and resort to personal insults instead as a defense mechanism.

don't rain on their parade too hard now. they're still basking in the honeymoon phase of kalamala's campaign launch and are excited about it because... yaaay.

plus their favorite cable news networks are throwing them all kinds of red meat that has them high on life rn.

[Hey Yo]

don't rain on their parade too hard now. they're still basking in the honeymoon phase of kalamala's campaign launch and are excited about it because... yaaay.

plus their favorite cable news networks are throwing them all kinds of red meat that has them high on life rn.
They're acting like she's some new fresh Dem candidate that had nothing to do with the current state of the country and wants to fix the immigration problem that her and Biden fukked up. Good luck convincing Arizona voters that she'll do something about the illegals coming across the border.

[Bill Gates]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwkDklxsyAs

Walz going to win this thing for Kamala. That guy has stage presence.

Joe Biden could never.

[Patrick Chewing]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwkDklxsyAs

Walz going to win this thing for Kamala. That guy has stage presence.

Joe Biden could never.

:roll:


Gotta have that stage presence!

[j3lademaster]

:roll:


Gotta have that stage presence!
The average person knows next to nothing about what’s going on, they usually just vote for who they like, or against who they don’t. Or write someone in thinking they’re edgy. Stage presence matters.

[diamenz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwkDklxsyAs

Walz going to win this thing for Kamala. That guy has stage presence.

Joe Biden could never.

he is a good communicator and outshines kamala by a long shot in that regard.

[bladefd]

Let's not deny reality. The country is polarized which you mentioned all the time. Half the country loves him but the other half despises him. Some people like him despite how he talks. Some people support him but dont like him while a lot on the other side really dont like him at all and went as far as tried to get rid of him. This election is about Trump not Harris but when Biden was an option it was Biden being a corpse that was the balot question

Trump is by far the most hated politician in US polling history.

[bladefd]

They're acting like she's some new fresh Dem candidate that had nothing to do with the current state of the country and wants to fix the immigration problem that her and Biden fukked up. Good luck convincing Arizona voters that she'll do something about the illegals coming across the border.

As if Trump is going to solve the immigration issue. He was there 4yrs, what did he do to solve immigration? What bills did he pass?

[SouBeachTalents]

:roll:


Gotta have that stage presence!
Bro, are you serious? Being charismatic is the biggest part of becoming president, you have to be engaging to voters and get them excited to turn out to vote. Virtually every election the last 40+ years, the more charismatic candidate has won, last time being the exception due to Trump hate (and election rigging).

[ILLsmak]

Tim Walz aka coach aka the muppet man aka slappy.

I legit will feel it’s rigged or people are major brainwashed if they win. I know people vote against Trump, but kammy is not a leader, I’m sorry. Walz still doing his wiggly clapping. It was crazy when Biden dropped out it almost seemed like some of you guys woke up like hmm holishit, but now you are doubling down again. Maybe she will win, but watch what happens and remember you cheered it on.

If she loses, go back and look at these vids of them talking and be like wow what were we thinking??

Really.

-Smak

[Patrick Chewing]

Trump is by far the most hated politician in US polling history.

Not true by a country mile. There really is no reason to hate Donald Trump. It's all manufactured. The Dems and Mainstream Media told you to hate him, and like the good little slave you are, you bought into it.

[Lakers Legend#32]

It would be a good thing if people like you don't reproduce.

We don't have to worry about that with Chewing.

[Patrick Chewing]

Let's not deny reality. The country is polarized which you mentioned all the time. Half the country loves him but the other half despises him. Some people like him despite how he talks. Some people support him but dont like him while a lot on the other side really dont like him at all and went as far as tried to get rid of him. This election is about Trump not Harris but when Biden was an option it was Biden being a corpse that was the balot question


So it's a 50/50 split just as I mentioned a few pages ago. So by your logic, I can go around saying that half the country hates Kamala and claim that Kamala is unpopular too, right? I mean, the focus seems to be on Trump here, but if half the country hates Trump, then the other half hates Kamala or whoever the Democrat nominee is.

The country isn't split 60/40 where Democrats claim a majority of support. So any Republican on this board or on the street can make the claim that Democrats are unpopular despite it being a 50/50 split, but we don't. The notion of an "unpopular" candidate doesn't exist anymore with how divided and polarized this country has become. Hope you guys can understand that. You cannot make the claim that Donald Trump is unpopular. Nor can I make the claim that (insert Democrat name here) is unpopular either. That's all I've been trying to explain to you fellas.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Half the country is voting for Trump.

Can we put to bed Poopsie's lie that half the country supports Trump.

Trump never got more than 46% of the vote in either elections.

He lost the popular vote twice.

The candidates he endorsed in the 2022 mid-term elections overwhelming lost. There was no Red Wave like Fatty was predicting for months.

He lost the house, the senate and the presidency during his term.

Far from half the country supporting him, the majority of Americans hate Trump's guts.

[1987_Lakers]

Might be a fluke rise in the polls. The same thing happened to McCain when he announced Sarah Palin as his VP, it temporarily helped his polls numbers, but then the public got to know her. I think Kamala will suffer a similar fate.

https://media.tenor.com/1hlTNcVLVS4AAAAM/jordan-shrug.gif