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3ba11
08-09-2024, 03:44 AM
how they could hang with the original Dream Team, especially if they're getting routinely dominated and down 17 to Serbia, South Sudan and other teams?

This tourney has confirmed that the current team would get beaten badly by the original Dream Team.

RRR3
08-09-2024, 03:49 AM
Someone can't do math. The 92 dream team didn't shoot 3s, they'd get obliterated by today's 3pt spamming style.

3ba11
08-09-2024, 04:39 AM
Someone can't do math. The 92 dream team didn't shoot 3s, they'd get obliterated by today's 3pt spamming style.


Someone doesn't understand basketball.

Women's teams and high school teams shoot threes more than the original Dream Team, but they would get destroyed by the 92' team just like the current Dream Team would get destroyed.

It turns out that being better at basketball means more than being able to spam threes, which is why the original Dream Team would beat the women, the high school teams and the current Dream Team - the 92' Team was better than everyone..

Of course, South Sudan shoots 38% from three in this tournament, compared to 40% for the original Dream Team, so if South Sudan can get hot against the current Dream Team, then the 92' Team would blow the doors off ..

The international line is closer and more like the long two's that previous eras shot, which is why numerous Dream Team members shot 50-90% from three like Barkley, Magic, Mullin and Stockton... Spamming threes is the easiest way to play, which is why women and high school kids are great at it with just a little practice.

StrongLurk
08-09-2024, 08:14 AM
Different eras. You simply can't compare basketball now to basketball 32 years ago. It's like comparing the 92 Olympics team to the 1960's team. Mike Jordan and the 92 crew played in a past era. I already proved this to OP but we know he's very low IQ and struggles with basic comprehension.

Wally450
08-09-2024, 08:23 AM
The talent today is far greater than it was in 1992. Sorry. 9 NBA players the Dream Team played against. This years team is playing against 61 NBA players.

Idk why I respond to these threads.

Da_Realist
08-09-2024, 09:16 AM
All Star Team vs Jokic. Just the way LeBron likes it.

Phoenix
08-09-2024, 09:23 AM
I would suggest that the 92 team at a 22 foot 3point line today with Jordan/Pippen/Mullin/Drexler/Magic would shoot enough 3s while having an interior edge with Robinson/Ewing/Malone/Barkley.

I think the conversation is a bit more nuanced that boiling it down to 3point makes. And nobody ever talks about if the 2024 team went back to 90s rules. Its always bringing the older team forward.

8Ball
08-09-2024, 09:29 AM
Someone can't do math. The 92 dream team didn't shoot 3s, they'd get obliterated by today's 3pt spamming style.

Correct, they may not even get out of the group stages with their brand of basketball.

8Ball
08-09-2024, 09:29 AM
The talent today is far greater than it was in 1992. Sorry. 9 NBA players the Dream Team played against. This years team is playing against 61 NBA players.

Idk why I respond to these threads.

Because Jordan tards are melting right now seeing Team America win.

3ba11
08-09-2024, 09:59 AM
The talent today is far greater than it was in 1992. Sorry. 9 NBA players the Dream Team played against. This years team is playing against 61 NBA players.

Idk why I respond to these threads.


1) We have ten top 20 players in the world and they have 1... So llmost losing to all these teams despite massive talent edge is huge underachievement... Getting routinely dominated and down 17 to all these teams is huge underachievement.. Jordan and Bird wouldn't be huddling together and celebrating barely beating Serbia.

2) There were just as many NBA-caliber players back then but the scouting didn't exist to find them... It took 5 years for the best guys like Sabonis or Kukoc to get over here, and the many lesser players that could've had a cup of tea in the NBA simply didn't make it over.. Most of the 61 NBA players this year are borderline guys that hadcups of tea in the NBA - these guys are WORSE than a decorated international veteran of foreign leagues.

1987_Lakers
08-09-2024, 10:03 AM
You know OP was crying when team USA came back and won yesterday.

LeBron leading team USA in points, rebounds, assists, & FG% in the Olympics at age 39. :banana:

tpols
08-09-2024, 10:20 AM
The Dream team would dominate inside. Of course if Curry is going to play on UMVP mode from 3 the current team would win but that's not going to happen every single time.

RRR3
08-09-2024, 11:48 AM
I would suggest that the 92 team at a 22 foot 3point line today with Jordan/Pippen/Mullin/Drexler/Magic would shoot enough 3s while having an interior edge with Robinson/Ewing/Malone/Barkley.

I think the conversation is a bit more nuanced that boiling it down to 3point makes. And nobody ever talks about if the 2024 team went back to 90s rules. Its always bringing the older team forward.
The 92 team took 16.9 3s a game. The 2020 team MADE 13.3 3s a game. Coupled with the fact that the 92 team also had a bunch of guys who would be left unguarded from 3 (Drexler, Barkley, Pippen, Ewing, Malone, Laettner, and DRob. I'll leave out MJ and Magic because I'll assume a few feet in means they were much more dangerous) while the 2024 team has none. It's a staggering mathematical disadvantage.

3ba11
08-09-2024, 12:10 PM
The 92 team took 16.9 3s a game. The 2020 team MADE 13.3 3s a game. Coupled with the fact that the 92 team also had a bunch of guys who would be left unguarded from 3 (Drexler, Barkley, Pippen, Ewing, Malone, Laettner, and DRob. I'll leave out MJ and Magic because I'll assume a few feet in means they were much more dangerous) while the 2024 team has none. It's a staggering mathematical disadvantage.


women and high school teams take and make more threes than the Dream Team because spamming threes is the easiest way to play - this idea that the Dream Team couldn't do that is ridiculous, especially considering the Dream Team was already shooting 40% at 17 attempts per game in 1992 and could increase this as much as they needed to.. these are LONG TWO's, which previous eras excelled at.

Jordan, Mullin, Drexler, Stockton and Magic could shoot whatever was needed to have a great offense.. I never understood why it's assumed that original Dream Team can't simply double their threes while still having the massive advantage inside (that increases with the greater spacing)... Furthermore, the 2024 team will have no legs to shoot threes after defending the 92' Team inside and dealing with their superior physicality, which is allowed international play.

gengiskhan
08-09-2024, 12:13 PM
how they could hang with the original Dream Team, especially if they're getting routinely dominated and down 17 to Serbia, South Sudan and other teams?

This tourney has confirmed that the current team would get beaten badly by the original Dream Team.

when you have inferior quality of imposter superstars who are lifted on pedestal by social media, this is the result you see.

LBJ, Curry, KD are poor man's MJ, Magic and Bird. Hence, outside Top 10 GOATs. They never were that great.

Reason LBJ, Curry, KD needed all the help they can get from Camaroon.

Reason 1992 Dream Team leaders Magic, MJ and Bird did not miss a beat when Shaq and Hakeem were left out.

1992 Dream Team was just too elite GOAT team ever in the history of Bball invention.

Dream Team spacing, ball movement, razer sharp passes, and their overall finishing on offense was never ever seen before or will never see after.

And then there was this killer defense bult on personal "grudges", one up man ship coming out of crazy monte Carlo practices.

If you add 2008 team usa to 2024 team usa, 1992 Dream Team will still be considerably superior.

It had back-2-back MVP, it had upcoming 1993 season MVP, It had showtime offense, it had clutchest of the clutch genes.

1987_Lakers
08-09-2024, 12:23 PM
when you have inferior quality of imposter superstars who are lifted on pedestal by social media, this is the result you see.

LBJ, Curry, KD are poor man's MJ, Magic and Bird. Hence, outside Top 10 GOATs. They never were that great.

Reason LBJ, Curry, KD needed all the help they can get from Camaroon.

Reason 1992 Dream Team leaders Magic, MJ and Bird did not miss a beat when Shaq and Hakeem were left out.

Hakeem around that time went through a 2 year slump & many people thought Ewing/Robinson were better players in 1992.

Not to mention Hakeem wasn't an American citizen in 1992 so he couldn't be on the team.

sdot_thadon
08-09-2024, 12:24 PM
All Star Team vs Jokic. Just the way LeBron likes it.

Meanwhile in 1992: Allstar team with 3 top 10 goats vs rec league.

RRR3
08-09-2024, 12:32 PM
Meanwhile in 1992: Allstar team with 3 top 10 goats vs rec league.
Just the way MJ likes it, a team full of Hall of Famers versus grocery baggers and car mechanics :applause:

1987_Lakers
08-09-2024, 12:35 PM
Just the way MJ likes it, a team full of Hall of Famers versus grocery baggers and car mechanics :applause:

3ball just confirmed that Kukoc is a legit hall of famer. Dude had Kukoc off the bench with Chicago going up against trash competition.

RRR3
08-09-2024, 12:36 PM
3ball just confirmed that Kukoc is a legit hall of famer. Dude had Kukoc off the bench with Chicago going up against trash competition.
MJ, Pippen, Rodman and Kukoc vs. Patrick Ewing with a literal grocery bagger as his sidekick :oldlol:

3ba11
08-09-2024, 12:45 PM
MJ, Pippen, Rodman and Kukoc vs. Patrick Ewing with a literal grocery bagger as his sidekick :oldlol:


Ewing's sidekick drastically outplayed Pippen in 3 separate series - 89' ECSF, 92' ECSF, 96' ECSF - yet Ewing lost each time and went 0-3 with his superior help..

Ewing's sidekick outplayed Pippen 3 times, while he also had 4-5 guys that were better than Horace (Mark Jackson, X-Man, Anthony Mason, Oakley).

So Ewing's Knicks had a far superior roster (sidekicks outplayed Pippen and vastly superior depth), yet he never beat MJ.

ELITEpower23
08-09-2024, 01:37 PM
The talent today is far greater than it was in 1992. Sorry. 9 NBA players the Dream Team played against. This years team is playing against 61 NBA players.

Idk why I respond to these threads.

90sgoat
08-09-2024, 06:00 PM
The US seems to have lost the ability to produce high quality big men and centers.

AD and Bam get consistently bullied by even average european bigs in FIBA tournaments. They're both too small, Bam in particular, and the tweener or rangy power forward like both Bam and AD is not really a position in FIBA (Guard, Wing, Center).

gengiskhan
08-09-2024, 07:17 PM
The talent today is far greater than it was in 1992. Sorry. 9 NBA players the Dream Team played against. This years team is playing against 61 NBA players.

Idk why I respond to these threads.

The talent today is FAR INFERIOR than it was in 1992.

Despite more NBA players, NBA standards have been lowered big time so any foreigner can become NBA player as long as it can shot jock a 3 pointer.

This years team can play against 161 NBA players. Because NBA lowered its standards big big time. it is an irrelevant league. Hence the comment "world champions of WHAT?". "America aint the entire world." and Lyles is right. Doncic is right. Its harder to score in europe than NBA now.

You respond to these threads because you are a Bron'sexual.

A definition of inferior mental garbage and your mother should have kept her legs closed.

world would've been a better place.

97 bulls
08-09-2024, 10:22 PM
I would suggest that the 92 team at a 22 foot 3point line today with Jordan/Pippen/Mullin/Drexler/Magic would shoot enough 3s while having an interior edge with Robinson/Ewing/Malone/Barkley.

I think the conversation is a bit more nuanced that boiling it down to 3point makes. And nobody ever talks about if the 2024 team went back to 90s rules. Its always bringing the older team forward.

Stockton was an excellent 3pt shooter as well. And even though Bird was hurt, a healthy Bird puts the 92 Dream Team on a whole other level

Phoenix
08-10-2024, 10:06 AM
The 92 team took 16.9 3s a game. The 2020 team MADE 13.3 3s a game. Coupled with the fact that the 92 team also had a bunch of guys who would be left unguarded from 3 (Drexler, Barkley, Pippen, Ewing, Malone, Laettner, and DRob. I'll leave out MJ and Magic because I'll assume a few feet in means they were much more dangerous) while the 2024 team has none. It's a staggering mathematical disadvantage.

Because it wasn't a focus but as we saw( and is commonly trolled on this forum), MJ and Pippen shot well from 3 when they shortened the line, and they would be adapt at defending the 3. Mullin clearly could and would take more 3s at a high clip. Stockton could shoot. Magic could hit it pretty well by then, so could Drexler. Probably well enough to not leave them open. And the 2024 squad still gives up a massive interior edge for 92. These things may balance out more than you think. As I said before, just dropping the 92 team into now, of course its a shock. You need to to at least allow some level of adopting to how teams play now.

RRR3
08-10-2024, 12:23 PM
Because it wasn't a focus but as we saw( and is commonly trolled on this forum), MJ and Pippen shot well from 3 when they shortened the line, and they would be adapt at defending the 3. Mullin clearly could and would take more 3s at a high clip. Stockton could shoot. Magic could hit it pretty well by then, so could Drexler. Probably well enough to not leave them open. And the 2024 squad still gives up a massive interior edge for 92. These things may balance out more than you think. As I said before, just dropping the 92 team into now, of course it’s a shock. You need to to at least allow some level of adopting to how teams play now.
We were just doing a straight comparison on the teams as is though not a hypothetical in which they had time to adjust.

Walk on Water
08-11-2024, 05:59 AM
I would suggest that the 92 team at a 22 foot 3point line today with Jordan/Pippen/Mullin/Drexler/Magic would shoot enough 3s while having an interior edge with Robinson/Ewing/Malone/Barkley.

I think the conversation is a bit more nuanced that boiling it down to 3point makes. And nobody ever talks about if the 2024 team went back to 90s rules. Its always bringing the older team forward.


Exactly. Why don't we have the discussion about the modern team winning under the 90s rules. There is absolutely no way.

Walk on Water
08-11-2024, 06:09 AM
The talent today is far greater than it was in 1992. Sorry. 9 NBA players the Dream Team played against. This years team is playing against 61 NBA players.

Idk why I respond to these threads.


What does this have to do with Jokic? Jokic is one All star and he nearly beat 10 All stars. Explain, explain.