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Hey Yo
08-21-2024, 11:26 AM
"The US economy employed 818,000 fewer people than originally reported as of March 2024, showing the labor market may have been cooling long before initially thought.

The revisions are a yearly practice from the Bureau of Labor Statistics; final revised numbers are expected to be released early next year.

The report, released Wednesday morning, showed the largest downward revisions to the professional and business services industry, where employment was revised down by 358,000 during the period. Leisure & hospitality saw the second-largest downward revision of 150,000.

The report moves down the monthly job additions seen in the US economy over the time period to 174,000 from 242,000.

"Despite this big downward revision, that's still a very healthy growth rate in terms of the monthly jobs added to the economy," Omair Sharif, Inflation Insights president told Yahoo Finance.

Furthermore, economists cautioned ahead of the release about how much investors should read into the print given its backward looking nature.

"The realization that the economy created fewer jobs than initially estimated [does not] change the broader trends in GDP growth, stock market and wealth gains, and consumption," RBC Capital Markets US economist Michael Reid wrote in a note to clients on Aug. 16.

This release comes at an important time for labor market data as recent signs of slowing have prompted economists to argue the Federal Reserve's current monetary policy stance is too restrictive.

More in the link
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-employment-falls-by-818000-in-latest-government-revision-144414848.html

rmt
08-21-2024, 12:09 PM
Imagine revising downward almost a million jobs and not even 2/3 into the year. And of course, most of revision is in private sector - not government jobs. Remember I told y'all that they revised (downward) 11 of 12 months last year - all this so they can boast and brag about jobs (and quietly revise later).

bladefd
08-21-2024, 07:50 PM
MAGA is scared and frustrated that the US economy may not collapse by election. They are desperate for it to collapse because Lil Donny is blundering it away each time he opens his mouth, which democratic strategists keep pushing. Why do anything when Trump can do it for you?

jstern
08-21-2024, 08:05 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YnDU_aog_k

SATAN
08-21-2024, 08:20 PM
Job figures are always distorted. Always.

paksat
08-21-2024, 08:27 PM
democrats lie, numbers reported by government are made up, other news at 7

SATAN
08-21-2024, 08:31 PM
democrats lie

How's the car going? :oldlol:

BigKobeFan
08-21-2024, 09:07 PM
democrats lie, numbers reported by government are made up, other news at 7

Only blade believes everything the government says

RRR3
08-21-2024, 09:13 PM
Only blade believes everything the government says
You believe everything Trump says :oldlol:

Patrick Chewing
08-21-2024, 11:54 PM
You believe everything Trump says :oldlol:

Why did you force your way into this conversation? You’re not a Trump fan. You’re not a Kamala fan. You’re not even a fan of the government. And yet when BigKobe seemingly takes a jab at the government which you should agree with, you take a jab at him about Trump. Nowhere in this thread were you brought up or was Anarchism brought up, so I’m just a bit perplexed as to what the hell you’re doing chiming in in this thread.

The only logical conclusion I can come to is that your entire existence and purpose on this board is to talk shit and antagonize other board members for no other reason than for your own personal satisfaction.

RRR3
08-22-2024, 12:02 AM
Seek help, you are obsessed with me

Patrick Chewing
08-22-2024, 12:23 AM
Seek help, you are obsessed with me

48 thousand posts would suggest you’re obsessed with us.

RRR3
08-22-2024, 01:23 AM
48 thousand posts would suggest you’re obsessed with us.
Most of my posts are about basketball, you don't even talk about that despite this being a BASKETBALL board :roll:

ShawkFactory
08-22-2024, 05:50 AM
democrats lie, numbers reported by government are made up, other news at 7

Only them?

rmt
08-22-2024, 08:37 AM
Job figures are always distorted. Always.

Wouldn't it be pretty evenly over and under then? Not so OVERWHELMING OVERSTATED?

Off the Court
08-22-2024, 08:53 AM
This actually helps the Dems tremendously. In fact I'm surprised no one has their tin foil hat on.

Because now it is for certain that the Fed will lower rates. Causing more borrowing, housing market get going again, stock market jolts up, economic stimulation.

Hey Yo
08-22-2024, 09:57 AM
Job figures are always distorted. Always.

Hasn't been this exaggerated in 15yrs... since your boy Obama was in the first term.

Dems like to blame Trump for everything but they're the ones who've been running the country for 12 of the last 16yrs.

Patrick Chewing
08-22-2024, 11:23 AM
Most of my posts are about basketball

No one believes that. You don't believe that cause it just ain't true. Most of your posts are just antagonizing posts against most of the board cause you know you're nice and safe in the confines of your parent's basement.

BigKobeFan
08-22-2024, 02:37 PM
This actually helps the Dems tremendously. In fact I'm surprised no one has their tin foil hat on.

Because now it is for certain that the Fed will lower rates. Causing more borrowing, housing market get going again, stock market jolts up, economic stimulation.

who's borrowing without jobs? serious question. Please answer.

Off the Court
08-22-2024, 02:49 PM
who's borrowing without jobs? serious question. Please answer.

Anyone with a business degree who is trying to start a business? Do you know how our economic system works?

But also, the unemployment rate is still extremely low even with this revision.

ZenMaster
08-22-2024, 02:51 PM
who's borrowing without jobs? serious question. Please answer.

New home buyers you dummy :hammerhead:

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1826660499360244031

SATAN
08-22-2024, 09:24 PM
since your boy Obama



You are brainwashed to be reactionary and divisive.

RRR3
08-22-2024, 09:27 PM
New home buyers you dummy :hammerhead:

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1826660499360244031
Lol you follow a literal nazi on twitter.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/individual/jack-posobiec

https://x.com/Esqueer_/status/1765850596110635470

BigKobeFan
08-22-2024, 11:44 PM
Anyone with a business degree who is trying to start a business? Do you know how our economic system works?

But also, the unemployment rate is still extremely low even with this revision.

People without jobs can't get a loan chief...use your brain sometimes.

BigKobeFan
08-22-2024, 11:45 PM
New home buyers you dummy :hammerhead:

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1826660499360244031

What bank would loan someone $700,000 for a house with a $30,000 downpayment without a job?

Off the Court
08-23-2024, 12:00 AM
People without jobs can't get a loan chief...use your brain sometimes.

Huh? Of course they can you absolute drooling dumb f@#k. Credit cards are thrown around like candy in the US.

But you do know this is a revision from jobs ADDED correct? We ADDED 2 million jobs instead of 2.8 million.

I would ask you to use your brain but you were born without one.

BigKobeFan
08-23-2024, 03:11 AM
Huh? Of course they can you absolute drooling dumb f@#k. Credit cards are thrown around like candy in the US.

But you do know this is a revision from jobs ADDED correct? We ADDED 2 million jobs instead of 2.8 million.

I would ask you to use your brain but you were born without one.

Stop changing the goal post. Now its credit cards instead of home loans that would "get the housing market going again"

What is this? 2005 again?

ZenMaster
08-23-2024, 06:00 AM
What bank would loan someone $700,000 for a house with a $30,000 downpayment without a job?

I don't know about 700K, but at lower levels the answer to your question is the banks who know they get bailed out if the profitability of the overall scheme goes south. Immigrants are added using taxpayer money, banks profit from interests on loans given to those immigrants when they get working.

People in the US aren't having enough babies for the population to sustain itself or grow and it's been going on for quite a while, the population is getting older and replaced little by litte. Median age in the US is around 37 now, up from 27ish in the 70's I believe.
So how did the country add 4,5 million people since 2020? Mainly through immigration(not counting illegals).


In January 2024, the United States is expected to experience one birth every 9.0 seconds and one death every 9.5 seconds. Meanwhile, net international migration is expected to add one person to the U.S. population every 28.3 seconds. The combination of births, deaths and net international migration increases the U.S. population by one person every 24.2 seconds.
https://www.commerce.gov/news/blog/2024/01/census-bureau-projects-us-and-world-populations-new-years-day

Because of this, native born employment is remaining stagnant while foreign born employment is growing:
https://www.reddit.com/r/economicCollapse/comments/1dacn9w/nativeborn_us_employment_is_not_only_below/

From 2040, all population growth will come from net immigration:


Population growth generally slows over the next 30 years, from 0.6 percent per year, on average, between 2024 and 2034 to 0.2 percent per year, on average, between 2045 and 2054. Net immigration increasingly drives population growth and accounts for all population growth beginning in 2040, in part because fertility rates remain below the rate that would be required for a generation to replace itself in the absence of immigration.
https://www.cbo.gov/publication/59697

So as a political party you have two main options, taking care of the current population and focus on policies and cultural changes towards people again wanting to have more babies, or focus on policies that benefit the immigrants or their kids who will eventually make up the base population if you don't focus on the current population. Democrats have chosen the latter and see it as an opportunity to gain long term power, hence why they're also trying to create citizenship for the immigrants who come illegally - it comes out to more votes in the end. Banks, mega corps and large tech is happy with this, because they profit from the new people being added to the economy.

I don't know, maybe it was always more natural that North America would get taken over by south americans instead of caucasians of what we now call Europe. But I do know there's going to be a lot of conflict in the transition period, we're already seeing it with the divide in opinion.
E.g even here on ISH you'll see someone like LakersLegend making comments like "look at all those white people" referring to a Trump rally, seeing white people together in groups make him angry and I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up hurting or killing someone at some point in his life.



Lol you follow a literal nazi on twitter.

https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-h.../jack-posobiec

https://x.com/Esqueer_/status/1765850596110635470

I don't follow anyone on twitter, I looked for video and that account had it. Funny to hear that coming from you though, a self proclaimed radical. You're the hollistic equivalent of a nazi but just on the other side of the political spectrum. We all know you would have loved nothing more if Trump hadn't turned his head in the last second.

RRR3
08-23-2024, 07:04 AM
I don't know about 700K, but at lower levels the answer to your question is the banks who know they get bailed out if the profitability of the overall scheme goes south. Immigrants are added using taxpayer money, banks profit from interests on loans given to those immigrants when they get working.

People in the US aren't having enough babies for the population to sustain itself or grow and it's been going on for quite a while, the population is getting older and replaced little by litte. Median age in the US is around 37 now, up from 27ish in the 70's I believe.
So how did the country add 4,5 million people since 2020? Mainly through immigration(not counting illegals).


https://www.commerce.gov/news/blog/2024/01/census-bureau-projects-us-and-world-populations-new-years-day

Because of this, native born employment is remaining stagnant while foreign born employment is growing:
https://www.reddit.com/r/economicCollapse/comments/1dacn9w/nativeborn_us_employment_is_not_only_below/

From 2040, all population growth will come from net immigration:


https://www.cbo.gov/publication/59697

So as a political party you have two main options, taking care of the current population and focus on policies and cultural changes towards people again wanting to have more babies, or focus on policies that benefit the immigrants or their kids who will eventually make up the base population if you don't focus on the current population. Democrats have chosen the latter and see it as an opportunity to gain long term power, hence why they're also trying to create citizenship for the immigrants who come illegally - it comes out to more votes in the end. Banks, mega corps and large tech is happy with this, because they profit from the new people being added to the economy.

I don't know, maybe it was always more natural that North America would get taken over by south americans instead of caucasians of what we now call Europe. But I do know there's going to be a lot of conflict in the transition period, we're already seeing it with the divide in opinion.
E.g even here on ISH you'll see someone like LakersLegend making comments like "look at all those white people" referring to a Trump rally, seeing white people together in groups make him angry and I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up hurting or killing someone at some point in his life.




I don't follow anyone on twitter, I looked for video and that account had it. Funny to hear that coming from you though, a self proclaimed radical. You're the hollistic equivalent of a nazi but just on the other side of the political spectrum. We all know you would have loved nothing more if Trump hadn't turned his head in the last second.
What a retard. You wanna compare the body counts of anarchists versus Nazis? You won't like the results.

Off the Court
08-23-2024, 07:35 AM
Stop changing the goal post. Now its credit cards instead of home loans that would "get the housing market going again"

What is this? 2005 again?

You never said home loans and I said a business loan in my first reply to you. When someone wants to start a business usually it requires a loan and usually they won't be working a job through

You're the one moving the goal posts to be a home owner, which isn't even required in life. Because now you see how wrong you were.

ZenMaster
08-23-2024, 08:54 AM
What a retard. You wanna compare the body counts of anarchists versus Nazis? You won't like the results.

There's like a handful of people still breathing who had coherent thoughts during the events you refer to, the terrible actions of people in the past doesn't make it right for you to be an everyday terrorist in the present.

RRR3
08-23-2024, 09:13 AM
There's like a handful of people still breathing who had coherent thoughts during the events you refer to, the terrible actions of people in the past doesn't make it right for you to be an everyday terrorist in the present.
Yeah, Nazis are still responsible for quite a bit of violence in years since the Holocaust, champ. Anarchists have killed here and there, but it's extremely rare. Nice try.

I'm a terrorist for believing governments are bad and people should live in harmony with one another? Dafuq?

BigKobeFan
08-23-2024, 10:33 AM
You never said home loans and I said a business loan in my first reply to you. When someone wants to start a business usually it requires a loan and usually they won't be working a job through

You're the one moving the goal posts to be a home owner, which isn't even required in life. Because now you see how wrong you were.

Even if you arw talking about business loans. What bank will lend without collateral? People without jobs have no assets

Patrick Chewing
08-23-2024, 10:38 AM
Yeah, Nazis are still responsible for quite a bit of violence in years since the Holocaust, champ. Anarchists have killed here and there, but it's extremely rare. Nice try.

I'm a terrorist for believing governments are bad and people should live in harmony with one another? Dafuq?

The way you act on this board is the furthest thing from "living in harmony" with one another. You want anarchy. No rules. No laws. No one lives harmoniously without order. You spread hate dude. Pure hate.

RRR3
08-23-2024, 10:50 AM
The way you act on this board is the furthest thing from "living in harmony" with one another. You want anarchy. No rules. No laws. No one lives harmoniously without order. You spread hate dude. Pure hate.
You literally think we should nuke millions if not billions of people.

Patrick Chewing
08-23-2024, 10:55 AM
You literally think we should nuke millions if not billions of people.

And you lack a sense of humor as well as common sense. There's no way you're a serious individual.

RRR3
08-23-2024, 10:58 AM
Whenever you get caught saying something particularly heinous you claim it was a joke. SPINELESS.

Patrick Chewing
08-23-2024, 11:06 AM
Whenever you get caught saying something particularly heinous you claim it was a joke. SPINELESS.

What a stupid statement. How realistic is dropping a nuke nowadays? It hasn't happened in 80 years you dummy. :oldlol:


You're so weird.

RRR3
08-23-2024, 11:10 AM
What a stupid statement. How realistic is dropping a nuke nowadays? It hasn't happened in 80 years you dummy. :oldlol:


You're so weird.
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1409206479i/20702014.jpg

Patrick Chewing
08-23-2024, 11:12 AM
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1409206479i/20702014.jpg

Your autobiography.

Off the Court
08-23-2024, 11:14 AM
Even if you arw talking about business loans. What bank will lend without collateral? People without jobs have no assets

So now we are talking about no job AND no assets. Basically a homeless person. :oldlol:

In any event, a college grad with nothing but a business degree can go to a bank and present their business plan. If it's convincing enough they'll get the business loan. Again, do you even know how the system works?

When rates are lowered, it stimulates the economy in that way. More business loans, more home loans, more credit card loans, more EVERY TYPE OF LOAN.

And wouldn't you know it, Powell just signaled rates lowering, maybe because of this job revision like I said.

Off the Court
08-23-2024, 11:16 AM
To me it looks like this revision was clearly directed at Powell to lower rates, and what's funny is that MAGA cult haven't even caught onto that.

BigKobeFan
08-23-2024, 12:36 PM
So now we are talking about no job AND no assets. Basically a homeless person. :oldlol:

In any event, a college grad with nothing but a business degree can go to a bank and present their business plan. If it's convincing enough they'll get the business loan. Again, do you even know how the system works?

When rates are lowered, it stimulates the economy in that way. More business loans, more home loans, more credit card loans, more EVERY TYPE OF LOAN.

And wouldn't you know it, Powell just signaled rates lowering, maybe because of this job revision like I said.

you have so many accounts you don't even remember what you were typing.

RRR3
08-23-2024, 12:46 PM
BigStupidityFan thinks OTC is an alt eh. Classic MAGA tactic.

BigKobeFan
08-23-2024, 01:05 PM
BigStupidityFan thinks OTC is an alt eh. Classic MAGA tactic.

Dec. 2020 join date. Right after the election. Only stays on the political boards to talk about Maga daily.

Patrick Chewing
08-23-2024, 01:10 PM
OTC is MaxFly

RRR3
08-23-2024, 01:15 PM
OTC is MaxFly
If that were true he wouldn't really be an alt since MaxFly doesn't boost. Think, fats, think. The correct term is new account

Patrick Chewing
08-23-2024, 01:27 PM
If that were true he wouldn't really be an alt since MaxFly doesn't boost. Think, fats, think. The correct term is new account

I'm not the one calling him an alt, virgin. Think, incel, think.

RRR3
08-23-2024, 01:46 PM
I'm a virgin.
At your age? Yikes

Patrick Chewing
08-23-2024, 02:18 PM
https://i.ibb.co/cTkbHVy/RRR3tard.png


There's no way you've been inside a woman.

jstern
08-23-2024, 02:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YnDU_aog_k


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nOhkBn05Po

Patrick Chewing
08-23-2024, 02:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nOhkBn05Po

Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe*cou gh*hehehehehehehehehehehehehehe

So Liberals are truth deniers now??


Heheheheheheheheheheheeheheheheheeeeeehehehehehehe heeeeheheheehhhhehheeeee

bladefd
08-23-2024, 03:20 PM
So now we are talking about no job AND no assets. Basically a homeless person. :oldlol:

In any event, a college grad with nothing but a business degree can go to a bank and present their business plan. If it's convincing enough they'll get the business loan. Again, do you even know how the system works?

When rates are lowered, it stimulates the economy in that way. More business loans, more home loans, more credit card loans, more EVERY TYPE OF LOAN.

And wouldn't you know it, Powell just signaled rates lowering, maybe because of this job revision like I said.

Rate cut is beginning in September. That should boost up the market a bit further and increase borrowing power of businesses/individuals.

paksat
08-23-2024, 05:21 PM
credit card debt = horrible
price of goods = horrible ( speaking of, when's that inflation reduction act planning on kicking in? )
the amount your dollars buys for your broke ass = horrible
price of insurance = expected to increase by 50% in cali, minn, and miss

even giga liberal yahoo news can't help itself anymore https://finance.yahoo.com/news/car-insurance-rates-could-jump-155215262.html

lol @ the EV market just falling apart, surely no one saw that coming














































what's the price of a dozen eggs? :oldlol:

paksat
08-23-2024, 05:23 PM
let's just triple the minimum wage, that would solve a ton of stuff right democrats?

that way republicans can beat em' to the next, "we need to increase minimum wage" too... 2 birds with 1 stone


it's highway robbery out there in country right now and democrats act like it's getting fixed, or even better ALREADY fixed LOL

meanwhile, it's $290 per hour if you take your car to the mercedes dealership

guess what your average plumber charges these days for a service call?

I know places that want over a $100 for an oil change in south florida lmfao

the jokes just write themselves

SATAN
08-23-2024, 05:26 PM
Unhinged

BigKobeFan
08-23-2024, 05:41 PM
Rate cut is beginning in September. That should boost up the market a bit further and increase borrowing power of businesses/individuals.

Yea. Lets let people without income to just keep borrowing. Keep giving them credit cards and business loans without collateral. Lets see how that would go

Bill Gates
08-23-2024, 06:47 PM
Yea. Lets let people without income to just keep borrowing. Keep giving them credit cards and business loans without collateral. Lets see how that would go

Rates were near 0% for almost all of Trump's Presidency. Did it go well then?

BigKobeFan
08-23-2024, 09:31 PM
Rates were near 0% for almost all of Trump's Presidency. Did it go well then?

Yes. We didnt have massive inflation and loans employment

Bill Gates
08-23-2024, 10:03 PM
Yes. We didnt have massive inflation and loans employment
Ah, so allowing people to borrow works better then!

ZenMaster
08-24-2024, 03:12 AM
Illegal immigrants do add perhaps $321 billion to the nation’s GDP, but this is not a
measure of their tax contributions or the benefits they create for the U.S.-born. Almost all
the increase in economic activity goes to the illegal immigrants themselves in the form of
wages.


Illegal immigrants are a net fiscal drain, meaning they receive more in government services than
they pay in taxes. This result is not due to laziness or fraud. Illegal immigrants actually have
high rates of work, and they do pay some taxes, including income and payroll taxes. The
fundamental reason that illegal immigrants are a net drain is that they have a low average
education level, which results in low average earnings and tax payments. It also means a large
share qualify for welfare programs, often receiving benefits on behalf of their U.S.-born
children. Like their less-educated and low-income U.S.-born counterparts, the tax payments of
illegal immigrants do not come close to covering the cost they create.
https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/doc/the_cost_of_illegal_immigration_to_taxpayers.pdf

CNN put the truth at the bottom of one of their propaganda pieces as well, that while "immigration is a "boost to the economy", actual workers will get less money because of it:


The CBO’s report said the increase in the population from immigration “will put downward pressure on average real wages in the near term.” Real wages are what people earn after accounting for inflation.

Part of the reason is immigrants tend to work in sectors that pay lower wages to begin with, which puts downward pressure on wages overall, the CBO notes.

After 2027, the agency predicts the trend will “partially reverse” as migrant workers acquire more advanced skills. But, on average, real wages will be lower by 2034 than they otherwise would have been if not for current immigration trends, the report projected.



https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/20/economy/economy-immigration-surge/index.html

It's the rich getting richer and it's why a lot of billionaires have a lot of stake in allowing more immigration and cheap labor at the expense of regular Americans.

RRR3
08-24-2024, 03:15 AM
Yeah, Nazis are still responsible for quite a bit of violence in years since the Holocaust, champ. Anarchists have killed here and there, but it's extremely rare. Nice try.

I'm a terrorist for believing governments are bad and people should live in harmony with one another? Dafuq?
Zen why are you ducking my post fella?

ZenMaster
08-24-2024, 03:35 AM
Zen why are you ducking my post fella?

Chewy already wrote most of what I would have said and there's nothing particularly exciting about arguing with a person who's always relying on one liners and going in passive aggressive circles.

Your opinions are fake and contrieved, whenever pressed on it you try and make yourself sound like an all loving hippie, but all your posts are provocative or hateful and always against one side.
You say you want no government, so you should also want less government, but you spend most of your time inciting hate amongst people voting for a US President who argues for less and more efficient government.

Combined with what I've seen you post about your own life in the past, working at a library and selling a bit of weed "like you thought it'd be good money in that" or some dumb shit, you seem like just a miserable angry person without any real drive to succeed.

SATAN
08-24-2024, 03:37 AM
You know you've won when ZenMaster resorts to petty insults, which is often. :lebronamazed:

RRR3
08-24-2024, 09:24 AM
Chewy already wrote most of what I would have said and there's nothing particularly exciting about arguing with a person who's always relying on one liners and going in passive aggressive circles.

Your opinions are fake and contrieved, whenever pressed on it you try and make yourself sound like an all loving hippie, but all your posts are provocative or hateful and always against one side.
You say you want no government, so you should also want less government, but you spend most of your time inciting hate amongst people voting for a US President who argues for less and more efficient government.

Combined with what I've seen you post about your own life in the past, working at a library and selling a bit of weed "like you thought it'd be good money in that" or some dumb shit, you seem like just a miserable angry person without any real drive to succeed.
You genuinely have to be severely brain damaged if you think Donald Trump wants less government, or that he's the least bit efficient.

Still waiting on that body count comparison between nazis and anarchists btw, why so scared of that?

ZenMaster
08-24-2024, 10:33 AM
You genuinely have to be severely brain damaged if you think Donald Trump wants less government, or that he's the least bit efficient.

Still waiting on that body count comparison between nazis and anarchists btw, why so scared of that?

I don't care about you dude, or whatever point pointless thing you're trying to argue about. You're a hateful person, you'd tear down society if you could and the only reason you don't take any real steps to get the world you want is because you're mentally weak.
You have the same simple hate in your body that you had 8 years ago, no development, just an everyday terrorist trying to piss other people off and act clever, like a Thomas Crooks before he took action.

RRR3
08-24-2024, 10:45 AM
I don't care about you dude, or whatever point pointless thing you're trying to argue about. You're a hateful person, you'd tear down society if you could and the only reason you don't take any real steps to get the world you want is because you're mentally weak.
You have the same simple hate in your body that you had 8 years ago, no development, just an everyday terrorist trying to piss other people off and act clever, like a Thomas Crooks before he took action.
Extremely ironic to be sobbing about hatefulness when you're a diehard Donald Trump supporter. Sounds like a bad SNL skit.

Patrick Chewing
08-24-2024, 11:04 AM
Combined with what I've seen you post about your own life in the past, working at a library and selling a bit of weed "like you thought it'd be good money in that" or some dumb shit, you seem like just a miserable angry person without any real drive to succeed.

Preach, brother, preach!!

https://media.tenor.com/WoyfgpqOWS8AAAAM/nigerian-dancing.gif

Patrick Chewing
08-24-2024, 11:10 AM
Extremely ironic to be sobbing about hatefulness when you're a diehard Donald Trump supporter. Sounds like a bad SNL skit.

You're so brainwashed an unable to think for yourself. You say you're not a Democrat, but you parrot the same retarded Democrat talking points like the little lapdog that you are.

What hatefulness does Donald Trump spread? What hatefulness do Republicans spread?


We don't spread hate the way the Party you're defending does.

ZenMaster
08-24-2024, 11:18 AM
Extremely ironic to be sobbing about hatefulness when you're a diehard Donald Trump supporter. Sounds like a bad SNL skit.

You think you're some special princess Leia kumbaya freedomfigher, but you're just another democrat saying the exact same things as all other unhinged democrats. E.g your daily use of the word nazi went up when the democratic party started using it and back down again when they stopped. We see right through you though, fake ass demon.

Hey Yo
08-24-2024, 11:18 AM
RRR3 body bagged by the ZenMaster. See's right through his instigating bullshit.

RRR3
08-24-2024, 11:19 AM
You're so brainwashed an unable to think for yourself. You say you're not a Democrat, but you parrot the same retarded Democrat talking points like the little lapdog that you are.

What hatefulness does Donald Trump spread? What hatefulness do Republicans spread?


We don't spread hate the way the Party you're defending does.
Both parties spread hate lol.

RRR3
08-24-2024, 11:22 AM
You think you're some special princess Leia kumbaya freedomfigher, but you're just another democrat saying the exact same things as all other unhinged democrats. E.g your daily use of the word nazi went up when the democratic party started using it and back down again when they stopped. We see right through you though, fake ass demon.
Yes every Democrat wants anarchy brilliant observation.

I called Jack Posobiec a Nazi and he is lol. It’s not like I called Trump a Nazi, there’s actual proof this guy being a Nazi. I don’t think Trump is a Nazi if you’re curious.

Patrick Chewing
08-24-2024, 11:23 AM
Both parties spread hate lol.


Listen, I want to be peaceful with you this morning. I still am not at 100% Chewing since it's the weekend. So in the most respectful way possible, I ask you to give me examples of Republican hate.

I honestly think we don't spread hate, or if we do, it's at a miniscule level, but I want to hear from someone else. So in what I hope is the most respectful way possible for you, I'd love to hear some examples.

RRR3
08-24-2024, 11:26 AM
Listen, I want to be peaceful with you this morning. I still am not at 100% Chewing since it's the weekend. So in the most respectful way possible, I ask you to give me examples of Republican hate.

I honestly think we don't spread hate, or if we do, it's at a miniscule level, but I want to hear from someone else. So in what I hope is the most respectful way possible for you, I'd love to hear some examples.
You quite literally have referred to me with slurs multiple times, you’re constantly racist to Highwhey, you’re antisemitic towards Jeff, you said we should nuke the Middle East, you CONSTANTLY spew hate about Muslims and LGBTQ people.

Are you serious? :lol

Just admit you’re hateful, you can’t just post that stuff and deny it afterwards we all see it

Patrick Chewing
08-24-2024, 11:29 AM
You extend an olive branch to RRR3 and he slaps your hand away. He wants me to turn green and Hulk up on this fine Saturday morning. He wants chaos. He wants war.

RRR3
08-24-2024, 11:32 AM
You extend an olive branch to RRR3 and he slaps your hand away. He wants me to turn green and Hulk up on this fine Saturday morning. He wants chaos. He wants war.
You asked me a question, and I answered honestly. I didn't even insult you, I just stated things you've said. If you can't handle facing the things you yourself have said, you were never interested in an honest discussion.

Patrick Chewing
08-24-2024, 11:35 AM
You asked me a question, and I answered honestly. I didn't even insult you, I just stated things you've said. If you can't handle facing the things you yourself have said, you were never interested in an honest discussion.

I'm not talking about me. I'm talking about the Party. Focus, man, focus.

highwhey
08-24-2024, 11:36 AM
You extend an olive branch to RRR3 and he slaps your hand away. He wants me to turn green and Hulk up on this fine Saturday morning. He wants chaos. He wants war.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTj70J46Znm9Ir3TW2K0SjKEI6LKgIV6 KlO1A&s

RRR3
08-24-2024, 11:44 AM
I'm not talking about me. I'm talking about the Party. Focus, man, focus.
You're a republican, you asked for examples of hateful Republicans :lol

As for the party, I mean...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/marjorie-taylor-greene-accuses-jewish-space-lasers-of-trying-to-shoot-down-santa

https://www.courier-journal.com/gcdn/presto/2020/08/07/PLOU/189ffce3-7cf6-4e63-a575-479a81ee2fc6-mcconnell.battleflag.jpg?crop=1267,713,x0,y54&width=1267&height=713&format=pjpg&auto=webp

Need I remind you these people oppose gay marriage? How is that not hateful lol

I know you agree with all of this stuff, but that doesn't mean it's not hateful.

Patrick Chewing
08-24-2024, 11:53 AM
You're a republican, you asked for examples of hateful Republicans :lol

As for the party, I mean...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/marjorie-taylor-greene-accuses-jewish-space-lasers-of-trying-to-shoot-down-santa

https://www.courier-journal.com/gcdn/presto/2020/08/07/PLOU/189ffce3-7cf6-4e63-a575-479a81ee2fc6-mcconnell.battleflag.jpg?crop=1267,713,x0,y54&width=1267&height=713&format=pjpg&auto=webp

Need I remind you these people oppose gay marriage? How is that not hateful lol

I know you agree with all of this stuff, but that doesn't mean it's not hateful.

Again, you take what I say too literally because I honestly think you lack a very basic sense of humor.


First off, that picture of McConnell has to be like 30 years old. Doesn't even look like him. And I don't know what that picture is intended to mean? That he hates Blacks? Or is pro-White? He's married to an Asian woman. Honestly, that picture looks fake as hell. It certainly wasn't taken in 2020. And again, if he takes a picture in front of that flag, it doesn't mean that he hates anyone.

And I don't know one single Republican in 2024 that opposes gay marriage. Certainly no one in Congress. And if there are people out there, it's certainly the minority. Obama's on record as to opposing gay marriage while I don't think one Republican in recent memory has said as such. Certainly not Trump.

ZenMaster
08-24-2024, 11:54 AM
Yes every Democrat wants anarchy brilliant observation.

I called Jack Posobiec a Nazi and he is lol. It’s not like I called Trump a Nazi, there’s actual proof this guy being a Nazi. I don’t think Trump is a Nazi if you’re curious.

That's just your schtick to try and stand out, you just want no Trump, it's all you ever talk about.

I don't know who Jack Posobiec is and I don't care, you've called everyone here a nazi when the DNC told you to along with bladed, OTC, highwey etc. I think you left quite a mark when you guys blitzed the old mind of Jasper with this stuff too, just look at his rambling posts ever since, sad story all around really with the collective hate.

RRR3
08-24-2024, 11:58 AM
Again, you take what I say too literally because I honestly think you lack a very basic sense of humor.


First off, that picture of McConnell has to be like 30 years old. Doesn't even look like him. And I don't know what that picture is intended to mean? That he hates Blacks? Or is pro-White? He's married to an Asian woman. Honestly, that picture looks fake as hell. It certainly wasn't taken in 2020. And again, if he takes a picture in front of that flag, it doesn't mean that he hates anyone.

And I don't know one single Republican in 2024 that opposes gay marriage. Certainly no one in Congress. And if there are people out there, it's certainly the minority. Obama's on record as to opposing gay marriage while I don't think one Republican in recent memory has said as such. Certainly not Trump.
Obama is hateful too, not getting any denials from me there.

But I mean you yourself recognized Trump and some of his supporters were hateful: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?399311-A-lot-of-ignorant-racist-people-are-voting-for-Trump

I'll even give you an out here: Trump was a Democrat for many years, so you can write him off as Democrat if you want. Of course, then you'll have to admit you're voting for a Dem...

RRR3
08-24-2024, 12:03 PM
That's just your schtick to try and stand out, you just want no Trump, it's all you ever talk about.

I don't know who Jack Posobiec is and I don't care, you've called everyone here a nazi when the DNC told you to along with bladed, OTC, highwey etc. I think you left quite a mark when you guys blitzed the old mind of Jasper with this stuff too, just look at his rambling posts ever since, sad story all around really with the collective hate.
Most of what I talk about is basketball, aka something you never post about despite being on a basketball forum. Most of what I do on here is trolling conservatives, I'm not sure why you think that's weird behavior for an anarchist? Go to anarchist subreddits and ask them what they think of conservatives.

I call nazis nazis. I generally use the term fascist when meaning someone far-right as Nazi is pretty specific. You could also argue the Democrats are fascists btw (although I wouldn't, neoliberal is a better term IMO), they're certainly fascist apologists and support foreign fascist regimes.

Trump is just a symptom of the deep rot within American politics, he's hardly some unique problem. I find Desantis far more terrifying personally, but no one talks about him. You seem to think that if you don't like Trump=Democrat, which is pretty absurd thinking.

Patrick Chewing
08-24-2024, 12:04 PM
Obama is hateful too, not getting any denials from me there.

But I mean you yourself recognized Trump and some of his supporters were hateful: http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?399311-A-lot-of-ignorant-racist-people-are-voting-for-Trump

I'll even give you an out here: Trump was a Democrat for many years, so you can write him off as Democrat if you want. Of course, then you'll have to admit you're voting for a Dem...

Yeah I think I was very pro-Ted Cruz back then and did see Trump as a bully and I was thinking to myself, we need to get the White House back after 8 years of Obama, and little did I know that the only candidate that could beat Hillary back in 2016 was Trump. There is no way any of those other Republican candidates could have beaten Hillary. I still don't like Trump's off the cuff remarks, but I've grown to accept them. But I don't see hate coming from him towards the common man or from the Republican Party.

Think about this, Hillary Clinton ("Basket of deplorables") and Joe Biden are on record insulting the average Republican voter. I don't recall Trump ever insulting the average Democrat voter. He's always gone after the politician, the person at the top. Never the voter. I could be wrong of course, but I can't remember any time he's ever insulted a regular Democrat voter before.

RRR3
08-24-2024, 12:06 PM
Yeah I think I was very pro-Ted Cruz back then and did see Trump as a bully and I was thinking to myself, we need to get the White House back after 8 years of Obama, and little did I know that the only candidate that could beat Hillary back in 2016 was Trump. There is no way any of those other Republican candidates could have beaten Hillary. I still don't like Trump's off the cuff remarks, but I've grown to accept them. But I don't see hate coming from him towards the common man or from the Republican Party.

Think about this, Hillary Clinton ("Basket of deplorables") and Joe Biden are on record insulting the average Republican voter. I don't recall Trump ever insulting the average Democrat voter. He's always gone after the politician, the person at the top. Never the voter. I could be wrong of course, but I can't remember any time he's ever insulted a regular Democrat voter before.
You didn't ask me to prove one side is more hateful than the other you just asked me to prove there have been hateful statements made by Republicans, which you are now conceding :lol

Patrick Chewing
08-24-2024, 12:17 PM
You didn't ask me to prove one side is more hateful than the other you just asked me to prove there have been hateful statements made by Republicans, which you are now conceding :lol

Insulting a candidate is not hateful rhetoric. You made it seem as if hate comes from the Right and I'm asking you to provide examples and you have not. The only example you have is when Trump calls Hillary Clinton "Crooked Hillary" or when he calles Kamala "Komrade Kamala". But where is the hate from the Party as policy? It doesn't exist. And that's what you were referring to in your OP. Not silly ass insults. Show me proof that Republicans are racist or are preventing people from voting or being themselves or anything else Liberals accuse Republicans of doing. You can't.

RRR3
08-24-2024, 12:22 PM
Insulting a candidate is not hateful rhetoric. You made it seem as if hate comes from the Right and I'm asking you to provide examples and you have not. The only example you have is when Trump calls Hillary Clinton "Crooked Hillary" or when he calles Kamala "Komrade Kamala". But where is the hate from the Party as policy? It doesn't exist. And that's what you were referring to in your OP. Not silly ass insults. Show me proof that Republicans are racist or are preventing people from voting or being themselves or anything else Liberals accuse Republicans of doing. You can't.
You're moving the goalposts, you didn't specify it had to be policy, you just asked for examples of hatefulness. Words can be hateful, even you surely can admit that.

Idk why you can't just admit it, I freely admit I hate conservatives, you obviously feel the same way about anyone not conservative and tons of minority groups but now you're waffling about admitting it.

Patrick Chewing
08-24-2024, 01:25 PM
You're moving the goalposts, you didn't specify it had to be policy, you just asked for examples of hatefulness. Words can be hateful, even you surely can admit that.

Idk why you can't just admit it, I freely admit I hate conservatives, you obviously feel the same way about anyone not conservative and tons of minority groups but now you're waffling about admitting it.

I'm not moving any goal posts. You made a broad accusation, but you can only come back with one or two people as examples. No one cares what one person thinks. What matters is policy and what the majority think. And you're going to have a hard time proving that Republicans are out there hating against other groups of people and stifling laws and freedoms. It's actually the Left that does it.

If you're truly worried about what one individual thinks in a country of 350 million people, then I would say you probably have too much time on your hands.

RRR3
08-24-2024, 01:31 PM
I'm not moving any goal posts. You made a broad accusation, but you can only come back with one or two people as examples. No one cares what one person thinks. What matters is policy and what the majority think. And you're going to have a hard time proving that Republicans are out there hating against other groups of people and stifling laws and freedoms. It's actually the Left that does it.

If you're truly worried about what one individual thinks in a country of 350 million people, then I would say you probably have too much time on your hands.
You asked for hatefulness Donald Trump spread. You asked for hatefulness republicans spread. You not liking that I was able to come up with results isn't really my problem, you can keep trying to twist it into something else all you want but I already answered your questions.

Patrick Chewing
08-24-2024, 01:53 PM
You asked for hatefulness Donald Trump spread. You asked for hatefulness republicans spread. You not liking that I was able to come up with results isn't really my problem, you can keep trying to twist it into something else all you want but I already answered your questions.

I just told you, insulting someone is not hatefulness. Calling Hillary "Crooked" is actually stating a fact. So once again, you have nothing to provide. Just like every Liberal that ever existed, you make an accusation, and then can't back it up with facts.

RRR3
08-24-2024, 02:02 PM
I just told you, insulting someone is not hatefulness. Calling Hillary "Crooked" is actually stating a fact. So once again, you have nothing to provide. Just like every Liberal that ever existed, you make an accusation, and then can't back it up with facts.
Who said calling Hillary crooked was hateful? I gave you links, you choosing not to read them isn't on me. I HAVE backed up my points, you're the one who hasn't :lol