What are your thoughts on Jose Raul Capablanca

[RRR3]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/image.php?u=83917&dateline=1558475545

[Patrick Chewing]

He wasn’t attracted to trannies like the OP.

[RRR3]

^virgin despite being in his 60s

[DJMcDonald]

Played in a weak era, but transcended the game.

[highwhey]

Played in a weak era, but transcended the game.

exactly, just like patrick transcended obesity

[jstern]

Rent free, RRR3.

Capablanca, the 3rd World Champion.


The winner according to the main criterion, where we measured average deviations between evaluations of played moves and best evaluated moves according to the computer, is Jose Raul Capablanca, the 3rd World Champion.
Computers choose: who was the strongest player? | ChessBase (https://en.chessbase.com/post/computers-choose-who-was-the-strongest-player-)

Keep in mind that for a very long time, Capablanca did not study any opening theory, yet dominated. His talent was natural, which makes you wonder how good he would in this era with Computers.

He also married women who didn't have Adam's apples.

[warriorfan]

Rent free, RRR3.

Capablanca, the 3rd World Champion.


Computers choose: who was the strongest player? | ChessBase (https://en.chessbase.com/post/computers-choose-who-was-the-strongest-player-)

Keep in mind that for a very long time, Capablanca did not study any opening theory, yet dominated. His talent was natural, which makes you wonder how good he would in this era with Computers.


Very interesting.


He also married women who didn't have Adam's apples

Uh oh. A certain poster might not be too happy about this…

[RRR3]

Rent free, RRR3.

This is coming from a poster who hasn't made a post without mentioning another user in over half a decade. 99% of your posts in the last year are about Axe :eek:

[highwhey]

This is coming from a poster who hasn't made a post without mentioning another user in over half a decade. 99% of your posts in the last year are about Axe :eek:

:oldlol:

[DJMcDonald]

Rent free, RRR3.

Capablanca, the 3rd World Champion.


Computers choose: who was the strongest player? | ChessBase (https://en.chessbase.com/post/computers-choose-who-was-the-strongest-player-)

Keep in mind that for a very long time, Capablanca did not study any opening theory, yet dominated. His talent was natural, which makes you wonder how good he would in this era with Computers.

He also married women who didn't have Adam's apples.

Morphy dominated his competition much more thoroughly, it's easy to find the best moves if your competition aren't making them. No room for Capablanca in the top 10.

[jstern]

Morphy dominated his competition much more thoroughly, it's easy to find the best moves if your competition aren't making them. No room for Capablanca in the top 10.

If a top player from the past played against a current player, without any new training, they would lose, due to computers. So I'm focusing on the talent that the individual human was born with.

If Capablanca came back today, in his prime, he would destroy Capablanca from the past, due to his talent, plus the copy and paste type of knowledge that he would gain from computers.

Players from the past were not as strong, due to the lack of modern opening knowledge, but if the moves were so much easier to make back in the day, then the other top players from Capablanca's era would also be at the top of the best evaluated moves in the link that I provided.

Think about this, Capablanca, who never studied theory (until later in his career) would get killed if he suddenly appeared and played today's players, because of theory and memorized computer lines. (Which is something that requires less talent) but allegedly, Frank Marshall developed The Marshall specifically for Capablanca. Preparation and theory beat talents, if the talent doesn't know the theory, but what did Capablanca due, while in trouble, he beat Marshall in that game. Due to pure talent.

Everything now is all about memorized lines, which sees current players making the correct moves, the top computer moves for a good portion of their games. Capablanca was finding these moves just on pure talent, without memorizing anything. Just evaluating the position.

The reliance on memorization does not equal, reflect innate talent.

Edit: Hikaru said that Morphy today would be around IM level. I say (so it won't sound as though I'm attributing something to Hikaru), that due to the era that he played in, and how much better he was than everybody else, the insane natural talent that he had, then Morphy would probably be a Super GM right now. Yet, his moves didn't make it to the top of the list that I mentioned. And that's probably because he didn't have to look, was not forced to look for better moves, given his competition.


This is coming from a poster who hasn't made a post without mentioning another user in over half a decade. 99% of your posts in the last year are about Axe http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/images/smilies/eek.png

99% is a bit high.

[DJMcDonald]

If a top player from the past played against a current player, without any new training, they would lose, due to computers. So I'm focusing on the talent that the individual human was born with.

If Capablanca came back today, in his prime, he would destroy Capablanca from the past, due to his talent, plus the copy and paste type of knowledge that he would gain from computers.

Players from the past were not as strong, due to the lack of modern opening knowledge, but if the moves were so much easier to make back in the day, then the other top players from Capablanca's era would also be at the top of the best evaluated moves in the link that I provided.

Think about this, Capablanca, who never studied theory (until later in his career) would get killed if he suddenly appeared and played today's players, because of theory and memorized computer lines. (Which is something that requires less talent) but allegedly, Frank Marshall developed The Marshall specifically for Capablanca. Preparation and theory beat talents, if the talent doesn't know the theory, but what did Capablanca due, while in trouble, he beat Marshall in that game. Due to pure talent.

Everything now is all about memorized lines, which sees current players making the correct moves, the top computer moves for a good portion of their games. Capablanca was finding these moves just on pure talent, without memorizing anything. Just evaluating the position.

The reliance on memorization does not equal, reflect innate talent.

Edit: Hikaru said that Morphy today would be around IM level. I say (so it won't sound as though I'm attributing something to Hikaru), that due to the era that he played in, and how much better he was than everybody else, the insane natural talent that he had, then Morphy would probably be a Super GM right now. Yet, his moves didn't make it to the top of the list that I mentioned. And that's probably because he didn't have to look, was not forced to look for better moves, given his competition.



99% is a bit high.

Everything you just wrote is painfully obvious. Morphy is superior, he dominated his competition more than Cap.

[Jasper]

Jose Raul Capablanca 10,000 times smarter than jalopy(.)

/

[Manny98]

Very handsome man

[jstern]

Everything you just wrote is painfully obvious. Morphy is superior, he dominated his competition more than Cap.

So the two main points that I made in the 'essay' should obvious. 1. If the moves were so much easier back then, then Capablanca wouldn't be the only one from that era near the top. 2. Everything now is all about memorized lines, which sees current players making the top computer moves for a good portion of their games.


Very handsome man

:cheers:


Jose Raul Capablanca 10,000 times smarter than jalopy(.)

/

How many times smarter than Jasper was he?

[90sgoat]

^virgin despite being in his 60s

Are you attracted to trannies OP?

I've been with a few trannies, but only because I've been with 100+ thai prostitutes.

[ILLsmak]

If a top player from the past played against a current player, without any new training, they would lose, due to computers. So I'm focusing on the talent that the individual human was born with.

If Capablanca came back today, in his prime, he would destroy Capablanca from the past, due to his talent, plus the copy and paste type of knowledge that he would gain from computers.

Players from the past were not as strong, due to the lack of modern opening knowledge, but if the moves were so much easier to make back in the day, then the other top players from Capablanca's era would also be at the top of the best evaluated moves in the link that I provided.

Think about this, Capablanca, who never studied theory (until later in his career) would get killed if he suddenly appeared and played today's players, because of theory and memorized computer lines. (Which is something that requires less talent) but allegedly, Frank Marshall developed The Marshall specifically for Capablanca. Preparation and theory beat talents, if the talent doesn't know the theory, but what did Capablanca due, while in trouble, he beat Marshall in that game. Due to pure talent.

Everything now is all about memorized lines, which sees current players making the correct moves, the top computer moves for a good portion of their games. Capablanca was finding these moves just on pure talent, without memorizing anything. Just evaluating the position.

The reliance on memorization does not equal, reflect innate talent.

Edit: Hikaru said that Morphy today would be around IM level. I say (so it won't sound as though I'm attributing something to Hikaru), that due to the era that he played in, and how much better he was than everybody else, the insane natural talent that he had, then Morphy would probably be a Super GM right now. Yet, his moves didn't make it to the top of the list that I mentioned. And that's probably because he didn't have to look, was not forced to look for better moves, given his competition.



99% is a bit high.

That’s why I stopped taking chess seriously when I saw all the books on strategy and my brain started thinking about systems. It’s too finite. I like what’s his name’s idea of randomizing the pieces behind pawns. Sure, it’s same fundamentals and strategy, and maybe someone starts with an advantage, but it’s a better game and it would bear out in a series.

**** any games that computers can play with top players. And I bet in the same way we own hard video games, beating a cpu consists of glitching it out and tricking it. Lame.

Chess is too solved. Fight me.

-Smak

[DJMcDonald]

So the two main points that I made in the 'essay' should obvious. 1. If the moves were so much easier back then, then Capablanca wouldn't be the only one from that era near the top. 2. Everything now is all about memorized lines, which sees current players making the top computer moves for a good portion of their games.



:cheers:



How many times smarter than Jasper was he?

It took you too many words to explain something so elementary, you come across as an autistic nerd trying to appear intelligent, when in reality you're scared to face me in a chess match.

[Overdrive]

Are you attracted to trannies OP?

I've been with a few trannies, but only because I've been with 100+ thai prostitutes.

Were you top or bottom with these trannies?

[highwhey]

It took you too many words to explain something so elementary, you come across as an autistic nerd trying to appear intelligent, when in reality you're scared to face me in a chess match.

:oldlol:

[Patrick Chewing]

It took you too many words to explain something so elementary, you come across as an autistic nerd trying to appear intelligent, when in reality you're scared to face me in a chess match.

No one is afraid of a 5 foot tall slanty-eyed noodle-eating Jap.

[ILLsmak]

No one is afraid of a 5 foot tall slanty-eyed noodle-eating Jap.

Eh comp is fun. I wanna see that chess match lol. Remm when poido and plow played 1v1. Good times.

-Smak

[jstern]

Are you attracted to trannies OP?

I've been with a few trannies, but only because I've been with 100+ thai prostitutes.

Yes, he simply announced it many years ago, even though nobody asked.


It took you too many words to explain something so elementary, you come across as an autistic nerd trying to appear intelligent, when in reality you're scared to face me in a chess match.

The reason why I provided a detailed explanation was for those who are not familiar about the history and how computer relate. And you say it's painfully obvious, but I made the two points because it was not obvious to you in your previous post. The points being, "1. If the moves were so much easier back then, then Capablanca wouldn't be the only one from that era near the top. 2. Everything now is all about memorized lines, which sees current players making the top computer moves for a good portion of their games."

[Hey Yo]

Played in a weak era, but transcended the game.

DJ, I know you"re not 6yrs old, but you MUST make your avi look exactly the way OP has it cause he says it really makes jstern mad!!!!

[ArbitraryWater]

Are you attracted to trannies OP?

I've been with a few trannies, but only because I've been with 100+ thai prostitutes.


https://media1.tenor.com/m/isqBt5pTHmYAAAAC/jeff-bridges-confused.gif

[DJMcDonald]

DJ, I know you"re not 6yrs old, but you MUST make your avi look exactly the way OP has it cause he says it really makes jstern mad!!!!

Jstern actually copied me. I had a chess avatar when jstern was sporting some geeky anime avatar. Also seek help.

[jstern]

Jstern actually copied me. I had a chess avatar when jstern was sporting some geeky anime avatar. Also seek help.

That's not accurate. You added the Hikaru avatar long after I added my current avatar (which used to be in black and white). And I'm pretty sure that the reason why you added the Hikaru avatar was because I made a thread about him. And then you added the Hans Niemann avatar after the butt plug controversy, and took it off after someone told you that it made you seem angry.

[highwhey]

Jstern actually copied me. I had a chess avatar when jstern was sporting some geeky anime avatar. Also seek help.

yep, i remember you as the chess guy long before jstern began copying you.

[DJMcDonald]

And then you added the Hans Niemann avatar after the butt plug controversy, and took it off after someone told you that it made you seem angry.

This is the only part of your post that isn't a complete fib. I did change my avatar off of chess because someone freaked out about it. Come to think of it, maybe it was you on one of your alt accounts. It makes sense, you want to be the only person with a chess avatar because you think it makes you look smart.

[RRR3]

This is the only part of your post that isn't a complete fib. I did change my avatar off of chess because someone freaked out about it. Come to think of it, maybe it was you on one of your alt accounts. It makes sense, you want to be the only person with a chess avatar because you think it makes you look smart.
He had an epic meltdown when I first changed my avatar, he kept begging me to change it :lol

[Patrick Chewing]

He had an epic meltdown when I first changed my avatar, he kept begging me to change it :lol

No one has ever begged you for anything.

I mean, maybe your parents have, for you to move out of the house.

[RRR3]

mmm burgers
Your parents begged you to stop eating all their food.

[DJMcDonald]

He had an epic meltdown when I first changed my avatar, he kept begging me to change it :lol

That is quite interesting. This basically confirms that it was jstern on one of his alt accounts.

[RRR3]

That is quite interesting. This basically confirms that it was jstern on one of his alt accounts.
Yep, he's already been exposed as 2qr3 being his alt (exact same posting style, he simply can't hide it), wonder if there are any more.

[highwhey]

That is quite interesting. This basically confirms that it was jstern on one of his alt accounts.

i can also confirm this. during one of the forum meetings with jeff and kblaze, we looked into jeff's admin panel to check IP's and you'd be surprised just how many alts jstern has.

[Manny98]

Jstern got these boys on a string :oldlol:

[DJMcDonald]

Jstern got these boys on a string :oldlol:


https://youtu.be/jyeMP2hcXZY?si=ffXza4psjxeU60Uy

[jstern]

This is the only part of your post that isn't a complete fib. I did change my avatar off of chess because someone freaked out about it. Come to think of it, maybe it was you on one of your alt accounts. It makes sense, you want to be the only person with a chess avatar because you think it makes you look smart.

You took it off because someone told you to? You sound like Axe listening to RRR3, as if he's his bitch, removing the avatar that he's had ever since he was a preteen.

It could not have been an alt of mine (I don't have any), because I immediately told you after to not remove the Hans avatar. And I might have even told you to bring back the Hikaru Nakamura avatar.


Jstern got these boys on a string :oldlol:

This.

[Axe]

He's probably great in the game of chess. But everytime i see him as an avy here, i am deeply reminded of unparalleled autism and adderall obsession because of the lonely piece of shit above me.


It took you too many words to explain something so elementary, you come across as an autistic nerd trying to appear intelligent, when in reality you're scared to face me in a chess match.


Jstern actually copied me. I had a chess avatar when jstern was sporting some geeky anime avatar. Also seek help.


This is the only part of your post that isn't a complete fib. I did change my avatar off of chess because someone freaked out about it. Come to think of it, maybe it was you on one of your alt accounts. It makes sense, you want to be the only person with a chess avatar because you think it makes you look smart.


He had an epic meltdown when I first changed my avatar, he kept begging me to change it :lol


Yep, he's already been exposed as 2qr3 being his alt (exact same posting style, he simply can't hide it), wonder if there are any more.
:yaohappy:

[jstern]

He's probably great in the game of chess. But everytime i see him as an avy here, i am deeply reminded of unparalleled autism and adderall obsession because of the lonely piece of shit above me.










:yaohappy:

5 quotes?

It looks as though I'm living rent free in your head (and RRR3's).

Every time you see him as an avatar? Are you kidding me? Look at your own avatar.

[Axe]

:blah

So autistic he doesn't even realize that this very thread wouldn't exist if not for him in the first place. :confusedshrug:

Foh. :oldlol:

[warriorfan]

5 quotes?

It looks as though I'm living rent free in your head (and RRR3's).

Every time you see him as an avatar? Are you kidding me? Look at your own avatar.

He has become what he hates.

Madness has consumed him.

[DJMcDonald]

You took it off because someone told you to? You sound like Axe listening to RRR3, as if he's his bitch, removing the avatar that he's had ever since he was a preteen.

It could not have been an alt of mine (I don't have any), because I immediately told you after to not remove the Hans avatar. And I might have even told you to bring back the Hikaru Nakamura avatar.



This.

Nobody told me to take it off. You asked me to because you thought it made me seem angry. I salute you for successfully trolling me on your alt, very well done.

[Axe]

He has become what he hates.

Madness has consumed him.
Ashtray called. It hasn't seen you clean it for a long time now.

[Patrick Chewing]

Nobody told me to take it off. You asked me to because you thought it made me seem angry. I salute you for successfully trolling me on your alt, very well done.

Post under your real account, coward.

[DJMcDonald]

Post under your real account, coward.

It's banned. This is my real account.

[Patrick Chewing]

It's banned. This is my real account.

What was the other account then?

[DJMcDonald]

What was the other account then?

MRFONZWORTH. Someone already told you.

[highwhey]

MRFONZWORTH. Someone already told you.

it's like talking to a child isn't it? an obese child, but a child nonetheless

[Patrick Chewing]

MRFONZWORTH. Someone already told you.

What did you do to get banned??

[Overdrive]

it's like talking to a child isn't it? an obese child, but a child nonetheless

It really seems like he's unable to process information. Either that's some really elaborate trolling or it's a bot account that spews the same shit over and over.

[Patrick Chewing]

it's like talking to a child isn't it? an obese child, but a child nonetheless


Look at my avy. LOOK AT IT.

[highwhey]

Look at my avy. LOOK AT IT.

are you OK?

[warriorfan]

Look at my avy. LOOK AT IT.

:roll:

[jstern]

This thread was a fail by RRR3.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Umz7NMYkbXQ