i think trump is finished.

[diamenz]

his magic seems to be gone. 2016 was peak trump and my gut is telling me right now that kamala is going to win this. her campaign is actually playing their cards right.

...just getting those vibes right now fellas. barring some catastrophic failure i can see her just coasting in from here until november.

...and jd vance? wtf was trump thinking? :roll:

[ILLsmak]

I think the safeguards against a Trump upset are way stronger than 16. Trump is OK. What he did in 16 was superhuman. People will say I am riding but that dude went harder than anyone I’ve seen. He had a short lull and faced much adversity, but in general, he was hype, at 70, for months traveling the country.

Otoh, he doesn’t need to do that now. He lost people over post 2020 election stuff for sure, but shit is not good atm, regardless of metrics. Also Kamala is an accident waiting to happen. That’s why people want to force her into interviews, but it’ll come.

The media machine is way stronger. Cutting Trump out of social media and shutting down forums had a huge impact. He is facing a crazy battle. I think it’s gonna be nuts if she wins, but it’s very possible.

My pov is he is not done yet. But yea still trying to figure vance.

Edit: you just have to believe regardless of strategy and support, eventually a candidate will have to stand on their own. I believe that’ll be a rude awakening. Remm she got bodied by Tulsi.

-Smak

[SATAN]

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[ILLsmak]

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Getting old sucks haha.

-Smak

[highwhey]

haterz will say it's rigged when he loses.

[ILLsmak]

One more thing, kamala seems very comfortable when she’s interrogating someone, but that’s not a debate. I think we will know Trump’s fate on the 10th. Which is good, a debate should decide it. She’s definitely not gonna coast through the debate, and I imagine people will expect her to prosecute Trump at times. It’ll be interesting to see how it works out.

-Smak

[Media Moderator]

his magic seems to be gone. 2016 was peak trump and my gut is telling me right now that kamala is going to win this. her campaign is actually playing their cards right.

...just getting those vibes right now fellas. barring some catastrophic failure i can see her just coasting in from here until november.

...and jd vance? wtf was trump thinking? :roll:

Vance is 10x better than Mike freakin Pence . Post DNC convention he was down 12 points to Hillary. He's almost neck and neck with Kamala right now. How is he in a worse position this year than in 2016? The Dems are desperately trying to make sure Kamala keeps her mouth shut because she's not only dumb as a doornail, she's a raging alcoholic. She's going to slip up sooner or later.

[Lakers Legend#32]

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Trump has already given up trying. He campaigns once a week and let's JD do all the heavy lifting.

Trump has moved on to Plan B.

When Kamala wins, he will say the election was rigged. He will call on his minions in state legislators to not certify the election. Plus he will send his goons out into the street to intimidate anyone who refuses.

Sound familiar?

[SouBeachTalents]

You could say this is only hindsight, but agreeing to that debate in June will go down as one of the biggest campaign mistakes of all time. Imagine they kept it to the regular timeframe, then Biden has that performance after the convention? Shit would have been over, he would've curbstomped Biden in the election, he may have even won the popular vote, dude was winning fvcking New Jersey for a while :lol I'd like to see any argument for how holding the debate in June would have benefitted Trump at all.

The last month has been an unmitigated disaster for him. I don't know what he was thinking with the Vance pick, you always pick someone as your VP that broadens your base, Vance doesn't do that at all, and he's a giant uncharismatic stiff to boot. And honestly, even Trump himself has been completely off his game. Kamala should be ripe for the picking, but he's completely failed in coming up with an effective attack strategy against her. Even since the change was made his campaign has been floundering, his speeches seem uninspired and even more meandering than usual, and his campaign just has this very downtrodden aura to it, the whole thing seems joyless.

I made a thread last month asking if Kamala could actually become president, and I honestly have to give her credit, she's run a very effective campaign over the past month. She completely turned around a campaign that was dead in the water, has energized her base, and she's now in the lead in most of the polls. If Trump has taught us anything, it's that you can never count him out, there's still 2 months to go, another debate, and Kamala is probably due for some kind of gaffe. But right now, this race has done a complete 180, and Trump has to do MUCH better than he has the last month if he wants to win, cause for now, it's Kamala's race to lose.

[Real Men Wear Green]

He's losing it mentally but there are too many ways the world can go nuts to count him out.

[ZenMaster]

She has some visual and vocal support from the far left because she's the woke candidate they've always wanted, but there's still a long way to go and while media and SoMe platforms are covering for her currently through censorship and containment, this cackling political whore and her alcohol problem still has to get on a debate stage and answer some logical questions from Trump that'll hopefully sit well with independents. She won't be able to just stand there and repeat that Trump is a threat to democracy and needs to be taken out over and over without looking like an idiot, which is effectively what her and her campaign are doing now.

What happened with Joe and why she's now the nominee. If Biden is great then why did he step down, if he's not great then who's running the country and why was Kamala saying he's sharp as a whistle up until a month ago.
What is it she can do next year that she can't do now to get prices down.
If she thinks no tax on tips is a great idea, why did she move against it recently.
If she wants to fix immigration, why did her and Joe get rid of the policies Trump put in place and were working.

[RRR3]

She has some visual and vocal support from the far left because she's the woke candidate they've always wanted, but there's still a long way to go and while media and SoMe platforms are covering for her currently through censorship and containment, this cackling political whore and her alcohol problem still has to get on a debate stage and answer some logical questions from Trump that'll hopefully sit well with independents. She won't be able to just stand there and repeat that Trump is a threat to democracy and needs to be taken out over and over without looking like an idiot, which is effectively what her and her campaign are doing now.

What happened with Joe and why she's now the nominee. If Biden is great then why did he step down, if he's not great then who's running the country and why was Kamala saying he's sharp as a whistle up until a month ago.
What is it she can do next year that she can't do now to get prices down.
If she thinks no tax on tips is a great idea, why did she move against it recently.
If she wants to fix immigration, why did her and Joe get rid of the policies Trump put in place and were working.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

What far leftist likes Kamala?

[Jasper]

haterz will say it's rigged when he loses.

10 4 ... It is amazing to me to see how many pride themselves in Hate comments.
Can we get out of the fvck'n 19th century folks.



his magic seems to be gone. 2016 was peak trump and my gut is telling me right now that kamala is going to win this. her campaign is actually playing their cards right.

...just getting those vibes right now fellas. barring some catastrophic failure i can see her just coasting in from here until november.

...and jd vance? wtf was trump thinking? :roll:

smartest comment u hav made on ISH. :applause::applause::applause:

[Off the Court]

Vance is 10x better than Mike freakin Pence . Post DNC convention he was down 12 points to Hillary. He's almost neck and neck with Kamala right now. How is he in a worse position this year than in 2016? The Dems are desperately trying to make sure Kamala keeps her mouth shut because she's not only dumb as a doornail, she's a raging alcoholic. She's going to slip up sooner or later.

They are neck and neck in the polls NOW. With none of them factoring in the DNC and most of them averaging from a month ago. Kamala has all the momentum.

The DNC crushed it. I know MAGA hates to see it, but it was large turn out and high energy.

The only wild card is RFK dropping out.

I definitely want to see how that affects the polls. Won't know really the scope of that until a couple weeks.

[Jasper]

They are neck and neck in the polls NOW. With none of them factoring in the DNC and most of them averaging from a month ago. Kamala has all the momentum.

The DNC crushed it. I know MAGA hates to see it, but it was large turn out and high energy.

The only wild card is RFK dropping out.

I definitely want to see how that affects the polls. Won't know really the scope of that until a couple weeks.

what sane person would want to go bak to the 19th or 20th century ,,, when the Demo's are looking into the future.

"Lets make America great again" was a hitler joke..
'lets go Johnson'

[Off the Court]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

What far leftist likes Kamala?

None of them really understand what a true progressive is.

It's hilarious reading things like "what has the Democratic party turned into?!?!?!"

Literally they haven't changed at all or done anything progressive. Trump was actually closer to socialist than Biden.

[ZenMaster]

Slighty less liberal than Warren, who wants things like citizenship to for illegal immigrants.


Of these 109 Democrats, Harris has the second-most liberal voting record. This makes her slightly less liberal than Warren, but more liberal than all of the remaining 107 Democrats, and significantly more liberal than all but a handful.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4816859-kamala-harris-is-extremely-liberal-and-the-numbers-prove-it/

[RRR3]

Slighty less liberal than Warren, who wants things like citizenship to for illegal immigrants.



https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4816859-kamala-harris-is-extremely-liberal-and-the-numbers-prove-it/
Ah yes, famous radical leftist Elizabeth Warren. You truly have no idea what the far left likes, even social democrats detest Warren.

[RRR3]

None of them really understand what a true progressive is.

It's hilarious reading things like "what has the Democratic party turned into?!?!?!"

Literally they haven't changed at all or done anything progressive. Trump was actually closer to socialist than Biden.
You're just proving you don't know what that word means either :hammerhead:

Although to be clear both Biden and Trump are so far away from socialism it's not even funny.

[Off the Court]

You're just proving you don't know what that word means either :hammerhead:

Although to be clear both Biden and Trump are so far away from socialism it's not even funny.

Niether are close to socialist, but Trump handed out more free money to the population than Biden did.

[Off the Court]

Slighty less liberal than Warren, who wants things like citizenship to for illegal immigrants.



https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4816859-kamala-harris-is-extremely-liberal-and-the-numbers-prove-it/

"Roll-call votes represent only one of several different metrics that can be utilized to evaluate the ideological orientation of politicians. "



Her biggest knock is that she's a fake progressive. Locking up pot smokers while bragging about smoking it, etc.

This is the Hill trying to prove otherwise. The MSM that you guys trust so much

[Patrick Chewing]

What a weird thing to post by the OP especially after yesterday's historic rally and endorsement by RFK Jr.


OP hasn't been the same since he became a Nazi. I will pray for OP to get back on his original ways. We don't want turncoats in our midst.

[ZenMaster]

Ah yes, famous radical leftist Elizabeth Warren. You truly have no idea what the far left likes, even social democrats detest Warren.

She's the furthest left of anyone you can vote for, sorry I don't care about some activists sitting at home writing articles for websites no one knows the names of.

[Off the Court]

What a weird thing to post by the OP especially after yesterday's historic rally and endorsement by RFK Jr.


OP hasn't been the same since he became a Nazi. I will pray for OP to get back on his original ways. We don't want turncoats in our midst.

Dave Grohl says he is suing Trump for using his song and will donate the proceeds to the Kamal campaign.

[RRR3]

She's the furthest left of anyone you can vote for, sorry I don't care about some activists sitting at home writing articles for websites no one knows the names of.
Elizabeth Warren is the furthest left Democratic senator in office you can vote for, according to whatever metric you’re using. Even if I accept that that’s hardly impressive the Democrats aren’t left wing.

[RRR3]

Niether are close to socialist, but Trump handed out more free money to the population than Biden did.
You mean the covid checks? Biden certainly embarrassed himself there letting Trump get a win, but in general his economic policy was to the left of Trump’s so your statement doesn’t make sense. Not to say Biden’s economic policies were remotely left wing though just less right wing than Trumps.

[Patrick Chewing]

Dave Grohl says he is suing Trump for using his song and will donate the proceeds to the Kamal campaign.

Pettiness and ignorance is another quality from the Left. Dave Grohl and all of his bands have been trash anyway.


Lee motherf*ckin' Greenwood >>>> Dave Grohl

[RRR3]

Pettiness and ignorance is another quality from the Left. Dave Grohl and all of his bands have been trash anyway.


Lee motherf*ckin' Greenwood >>>> Dave Grohl
Nirvana was trash? Wut?

[RRR3]

"Roll-call votes represent only one of several different metrics that can be utilized to evaluate the ideological orientation of politicians. "



Her biggest knock is that she's a fake progressive. Locking up pot smokers while bragging about smoking it, etc.

This is the Hill trying to prove otherwise. The MSM that you guys trust so much
Yeah exactly she’s a fraud. She has no credentials with anyone who considers themselves far left. The only American politicians who really do are Bernie and the Squad, maybe a few others and even then many who consider themselves leftists don’t like them either.

[Patrick Chewing]

Nirvana was trash? Wut?

Overrated, but not trash. More like his Foo Fighters and Probot or whatever they're called.

[ZenMaster]

Elizabeth Warren is the furthest left Democratic senator in office you can vote for, according to whatever metric you’re using. Even if I accept that that’s hardly impressive the Democrats aren’t left wing.

It's 2024 and no one cares about left wing theoretics and just how far out people can get. Current democrats represents the oligarchs, wants kids to be able to gender surgeries without parental consent, mass censorhip of information and no consequence illegal immegration. They're all over the place and dangerous. A bunch of rhino politicans in the Republican party wants some of the same, which why there's only MAGA or RFK, who's now also MAGA.

https://i.abcnewsfe.com/a/58aed627-00f0-455d-a33e-a78e13201d30/rfk-trump-ap-jef-240823_1724457668953_hpMain.jpg

[RRR3]

It's 2024 and no one cares about left wing theoretics and just how far out people can get. Current democrats represents the oligarchs, wants kids to be able to gender surgeries without parental consent, mass censorhip of information and no consequence illegal immegration. They're all over the place and dangerous. A bunch of rhino politicans in the Republican party wants some of the same, which why there's only MAGA or RFK, who's now also MAGA.

https://i.abcnewsfe.com/a/58aed627-00f0-455d-a33e-a78e13201d30/rfk-trump-ap-jef-240823_1724457668953_hpMain.jpg
This is quite literally right-wing by any definition...

[ZenMaster]

This is quite literally right-wing by any definition...

Excactly, so it would be natural to see you in discussions with democrats on here all the time, yet that never happens because you're all just a bunch of low life jabronis with TDS.

[RRR3]

Excactly, so it would be natural to see you in discussions with democrats on here all the time, yet that never happens because you're all just a bunch of low life jabronis with TDS.
This is incomprehensible. Let's review it:

*You stated the Democrats are left wing
*I disagreed
*You brought up stuff in an attempt to prove to me they were left wing
*I point out one of the things you highlighted is right-wing
*"EXACTLY!"



Genuinely, what are you talking about? I do disagree with Dems on here, you can find me disagreeing with off the Court literally from today. I have told Bladefd many times the Dems suck, etc.

[Off the Court]

You mean the covid checks? Biden certainly embarrassed himself there letting Trump get a win, but in general his economic policy was to the left of Trump’s so your statement doesn’t make sense. Not to say Biden’s economic policies were remotely left wing though just less right wing than Trumps.

https://www.crfb.org/papers/trump-and-biden-national-debt

That is how much money each spread around. yes Biden's policies are to the left of Trumps, but in reality one gave out more than the other.

I don't really want to get into the semantics that define "socialism" here. My overall point was that calling any of these current Dems "far-left" is laughable.

[ILLsmak]

I don't even think we can depend on Republican and Democrat labels anymore.

We have these megaphones blowing in our ear and telling us what to do, how to feel, that we are hateful if we don't feel that way. For whatever reason, those people are aligned with "The Democratic Party." As long as it's like that, I can't fux with it.

People are nuts who are like yeah media always had a liberal bent, or 'They just want to make money!' It's like... I dunno how much of this shit you read, but it's ridiculous. It's shameful the level of bullshit they are spewing, and it's not even coercive. Would be nice to somehow get rid of that shit and then decide where we want to go politically. I'll trust the will of the people for our country's direction, but I refuse to accept people who align with whatever this propaganda machine is. I don't feel any kinda way toward the people, but I will always resent that they think they can brainwash us into doing what they want. They are trying to trick people into handing over their rights and freedoms. It's got nothing to do with d / r.

I dunno how we get over this, but the answer is definitely not waiting or aligning with it.

-Smak

[RRR3]

https://www.crfb.org/papers/trump-and-biden-national-debt

That is how much money each spread around. yes Biden's policies are to the left of Trumps, but in reality one gave out more than the other.

I don't really want to get into the semantics that define "socialism" here. My overall point was that calling any of these current Dems "far-left" is laughable.
Trump moving more money around doesn’t mean he’s “more socialist” unless that money is going towards helping the working class. Just admit you made a silly statement. You seem to think like many liberals that socialism is an insult and can be used against Trump but it just makes you look ridiculous. Socialism has been so utterly bastardized that very few people are even capable of engaging seriously about the word, though I must admit.

[diamenz]

she's the woke candidate they've always wanted, but there's still a long way to go and while media and SoMe platforms are covering for her currently through censorship and containment, this cackling political whore

yeah but that's the thing... she's not running on the black woman schtick. she's not playing the identity card. she's not cackling anymore. she's been coached and her campaign seems to have read the tea leaves and has adjusted accordingly.

if hillary with all of her baggage and how universally disliked she was almost beat a peak trump, i can see kamala riding the wave to the finish line on this one.

trump would have waaay better off against joe.

[RRR3]

yeah but that's the thing... she's not running on the black woman schtick. she's not playing the identity card. she's not cackling anymore. she's been coached and her campaign seems to have read the tea leaves and has adjusted accordingly.

if hillary with all of her baggage and how universally disliked she was almost beat a peak trump, i can see kamala riding the wave to the finish line on this one.
She’s running a better campaign than Hilary although I wouldn’t say she’s doing well, Democrats could very easily permanently end the Republican Party if they wanted to, but she’ll never adopt a platform that would do it because she would call that communism. Trump is just so hated you just have to not be Hillary and you got him in most cases.

[ILLsmak]

She’s running a better campaign than Hilary although I wouldn’t say she’s doing well, Democrats could very easily permanently end the Republican Party if they wanted to, but she’ll never adopt a platform that would do it because she would call that communism. Trump is just so hated you just have to not be Hillary and you got him in most cases.

imo she's not, that's just bullshit people are spewing. Most things I read are people talking about how much more hopeful they feel after Biden dropped out. I dunno if it's a form of denial or what, but they are in some fantasy land. The contrast is what is making them the way they are.

The second part you say may be true, but it was the baggage that Hillz had that made her campaign better. She had to deal with adversity. People actually wanted her to be president, a lot of people. The excitement wasn't manufactured. Sure, her fluff pieces were, but people genuinely were ready for the first woman president and believed Hillary was gonna lead us into a new era.

This is not that. This is shock and denial. It's like people don't have to think about how ****ing senile Joe is so they just move on to Kamala. For them, it's more of the contrast between Biden and her, not she and Trump. Trump is Trump.

People only questioned Hillary's campaign strategy after she lost haha.

-Smak

[Doomsday Dallas]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jt2IRr6KM64

[Lakers Legend#32]

What a weird thing to post by the OP especially after yesterday's historic rally and endorsement by RFK Jr.

Historic?

Oh Good God you are so full of sh1t.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Lee motherf*ckin' Greenwood >>>> Dave Grohl

Poopsie want to be the first Latino redneck.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Is Trump dying?


https://x.com/guelphgirlchris/status/1827376739837731276/photo/1

[SATAN]

Genuinely, what are you talking about?

:oldlol:

[Lakers Legend#32]

Such a historic event only FOX News carried it.

[TheMan]

his magic seems to be gone. 2016 was peak trump and my gut is telling me right now that kamala is going to win this. her campaign is actually playing their cards right.

...just getting those vibes right now fellas. barring some catastrophic failure i can see her just coasting in from here until november.

...and jd vance? wtf was trump thinking? :roll:

Crazy how a month ago it was all but a lock for Trump's 2nd term in the WH. He was more disciplined, not saying a whole lot and letting Biden hang himself...now all the energy is with the Democrats and Trump just doesn't have that extra gear in him, of course he's now pushing 80 but he's been all over the place recently and his attacks on Harris aren't hitting like his attacks on Hillary were. Nobody is buying that Harris is a communist lol, she's as corporate Democrat as there ever was. Not a whole lot of time left and this thing is slipping away from the Don.

[Patrick Chewing]

Crazy how a month ago it was all but a lock for Trump's 2nd term in the WH. He was more disciplined, not saying a whole lot and letting Biden hang himself...now all the energy is with the Democrats and Trump just doesn't have that extra gear in him, of course he's now pushing 80 but he's been all over the place recently and his attacks on Harris aren't hitting like his attacks on Hillary were. Nobody is buying that Harris is a communist lol, she's as corporate Democrat as there ever was. Not a whole lot of time left and this thing is slipping away from the Don.

You know….

You’re right. It is slipping away from Donald Trump. Kamala is going to win.


:roll:

[TheMan]

You know….

You’re right. It is slipping away from Donald Trump. Kamala is going to win.


:roll:

Laugh now, I told you early on that Biden would beat Trump in 2020 and you scoffed so...now I'm not saying Trump is definitely losing but if you can't see which campaign has the momentum rn then I don't know what to tell ya.

[John8204]

Historic?

Oh Good God you are so full of sh1t.

He meant to say Hysteric...because when the right starts talking they are hysterical and wrong. Trumps record in office was abysmal while Biden has been very successful. You notice when it comes to specifics regarding policy the right never has anything to say. The ads are anecdotal fear mongering and America can see through it.

[Overdrive]

She's the furthest left of anyone you can vote for, sorry I don't care about some activists sitting at home writing articles for websites no one knows the names of.

So in a vote between Hitler and Mussolini you'd call the latter far leftist?


You're just proving you don't know what that word means either :hammerhead:

Although to be clear both Biden and Trump are so far away from socialism it's not even funny.

Trump used one agenda that's derived from communism. Protectionism to strengthen the domestic labour class. I wonder how avid communism haters like Chewy can approve such a thing.


:roll: :roll: :roll:

What far leftist likes Kamala?

For a russian fascist shill everyone is far left.

[Overdrive]

Trump has a hard time dealing with Harris. He's trying the same lame insults as ever, but they just don't hit. Everything that worked against Biden just 2 months ago seems tired and played out.

[RRR3]

So in a vote between Hitler and Mussolini you'd call the latter far leftist?



Trump used one agenda that's derived from communism. Protectionism to strengthen the domestic labour class. I wonder how avid communism haters like Chewy can approve such a thing.



For a russian fascist shill everyone is far left.
Communism meaning Marxism-Leninism? Pretty huge bastardization of Marx, that. Trump was pretty horrible for labor btw. Worse than Biden which is saying something.

[RRR3]

Btw it would be very easy to get MAGA to support Stalinism as long as you didn't make any mention of socialism, Marx or the USSR. Stalin was essentially a fascist who used Marxist buzzwords and kept the social programs Lenin installed so he could retain working class support. But I'm sure Chewing, etc. would love his anti-LGBTQ policies, extreme social conservatism, and forced deportations of indigenous minority groups. They'd probably convince themselves they could become powerful members of the party, just like they convince themselves they can become rich in the USA.

[Patrick Chewing]

Laugh now, I told you early on that Biden would beat Trump in 2020 and you scoffed so...now I'm not saying Trump is definitely losing but if you can't see which campaign has the momentum rn then I don't know what to tell ya.

And what in the world makes you think the Kamala campaign has momentum??

[diamenz]

Trump has a hard time dealing with Harris. He's trying the same lame insults as ever, but they just don't hit. Everything that worked against Biden just 2 months ago seems tired and played out.

all i keep hearing from him at his rallies is how she's a far left radical but there's no evidence for that. yet his crowds go nuts every time he says it. they're as gullible as the libtards are.

that's why i said his magic is gone. hillary and biden were easy targets. he has no idea how to approach attacking harris.

[RRR3]

all i keep hearing from him at his rallies is how she's a far left radical but there's no evidence for that. yet his crowds go nuts every time he says it. they're as gullible as the libtards are.

that's why i said his magic is gone. hillary and biden were easy targets. he has no idea how to approach attacking harris.
ZenMaster is literally saying that in this thread.

[Patrick Chewing]

The people claiming they don’t see the evidence that Kamala is a radical probably believe the narrative that Trump is a Nazi or Hitler. :lol

Democrat accusations are true, but Republican accusations are false.

[RRR3]

The people claiming they don’t see the evidence that Kamala is a radical probably believe the narrative that Trump is a Nazi or Hitler. :lol

Democrat accusations are true, but Republican accusations are false.
Trump isn't a Nazi. Now tell us how Kamala is a radical.

[diamenz]

The people claiming they don’t see the evidence that Kamala is a radical probably believe the narrative that Trump is a Nazi or Hitler. :lol

Democrat accusations are true, but Republican accusations are false.

you tell me then because i can't call it.

trump calls kamala a marxist. what marxist policies has she been responsible for passing or helping to get passed? what part of her current policy platform is marxist? if she's a marxist, what would that make bernie sanders?

[Overdrive]

Communism meaning Marxism-Leninism? Pretty huge bastardization of Marx, that. Trump was pretty horrible for labor btw. Worse than Biden which is saying something.

Of course he was. Having an agenda and actually implementing real policies are two things. Most populists can't do the latter. People like Chewy will still vote for them.

It's no bastardization. When time and time again the outcome is the same it should be evident that the theory of communism doesn't translate to real world politics.


all i keep hearing from him at his rallies is how she's a far left radical but there's no evidence for that. yet his crowds go nuts every time he says it. they're as gullible as the libtards are.

that's why i said his magic is gone. hillary and biden were easy targets. he has no idea how to approach attacking harris.

That's what I mean. He can't adapt. He was programmed to attack Biden for 4 years and so he still does. It's to late to program him for an anti Harris campaign. Trump's brain is just as shot as Biden's.


The people claiming they don’t see the evidence that Kamala is a radical probably believe the narrative that Trump is a Nazi or Hitler. :lol

Democrat accusations are true, but Republican accusations are false.

He's not Hitler, just like Harris is no leftist, let a alone a radical one. You don't even know what radical leftism is and looks like.

[RRR3]

Of course he was. Having an agenda and actually implementing real policies are two things. Most populists can't do the latter. People like Chewy will still vote for them.

It's no bastardization. When time and time again the outcome is the same it should be evident that the theory of communism doesn't translate to real world politics.



That's what I mean. He can't adapt. He was programmed to attack Biden for 4 years and so he still does. It's to late to program him for an anti Harris campaign. Trump's brain is just as shot as Biden's.



He's not Hitler, just like Harris is no leftist, let a alone a radical one. You don't even know what radical leftism is and looks like.
I mean the first attempt at following Marxism with a state was Lenin, and he absolutely bastardized it. Have you read Marx? A lot of the stuff Lenin did was stuff he explicitly railed against, such as getting rid of worker's councils, a clear ruling class and general lack of freedoms and Democracy. All the examples that have followed Lenin have failed because Lenin was an opportunistic jackass. But there have been plenty of individuals who are some form of Marxist who have governed reasonably well (as much as you can expect a politician to govern well). Salvador Allende, Jose Mujica, Jacobo Arbenz, Nelson Mandela, amongst others. I'm not a Marxist by any means (Anarchist), but Lenin and his disciples are very much revisionists.

[Patrick Chewing]

Kamala Harris supported the Defund the Police movement and praised Antifa. I guess that’s not radical enough for you boys. What a joke.

[diamenz]

Kamala Harris supported the Defund the Police movement and praised Antifa. I guess that’s not radical enough for you boys. What a joke.

that's an awfully pitiful attempt at answering my question about why kamala harris is in any way a marxist.

you rail on liberals 365 24/7 for their derangement and lack of policy focus yet here you are going full libtard.

[Off the Court]

Kamala Harris supported the Defund the Police movement and praised Antifa. I guess that’s not radical enough for you boys. What a joke.

But then the police get more funding than they've ever had before under her and Joe.

And that's her whole knock. She says progressive shit but doesn't do it.

[RRR3]

Kamala Harris supported the Defund the Police movement and praised Antifa. I guess that’s not radical enough for you boys. What a joke.
Paying police less isn’t radical considering how much they get paid in America :facepalm

Don’t you always whine about the government wasting money?

“She praised antifa” so NOW words matter I thought only policy and actions did :lol

[RRR3]

But then the police get more funding than they've ever had before under her and Joe.

And that's her whole knock. She says progressive shit but doesn't do it.
This too. And defunding the police wouldn’t even have been radical anyways, it’s just wasting less money which conservatives supposedly care about.

[Patrick Chewing]

that's an awfully pitiful attempt at answering my question about why kamala harris is in any way a marxist.

you rail on liberals 365 24/7 for their derangement and lack of policy focus yet here you are going full libtard.

You wanted a radical position from her and I gave you two HUGE ones. And now that’s not good enough? Not radical enough?

I swear, is everyone on this board a Democrat?? :lol

[Overdrive]

Kamala Harris supported the Defund the Police movement and praised Antifa. I guess that’s not radical enough for you boys. What a joke.

Defunding the police isn't marxist. It's libertarian. In all seriousness: Do you have any clue about politics?

[Overdrive]

I mean the first attempt at following Marxism with a state was Lenin, and he absolutely bastardized it. Have you read Marx? A lot of the stuff Lenin did was stuff he explicitly railed against, such as getting rid of worker's councils, a clear ruling class and general lack of freedoms and Democracy. All the examples that have followed Lenin have failed because Lenin was an opportunistic jackass. But there have been plenty of individuals who are some form of Marxist who have governed reasonably well (as much as you can expect a politician to govern well). Salvador Allende, Jose Mujica, Jacobo Arbenz, Nelson Mandela, amongst others. I'm not a Marxist by any means (Anarchist), but Lenin and his disciples are very much revisionists.

I had to read excerpts decades ago in school. Didn't really appeal to me.

Of course there were democratic politicians throughout the last 150 somewhat years that had marxist ideas and could implement them into society, but I wouldn't use Allende or Mandela as prime examples. Try european social democrats, they usually had success doing that without falling victim to a coup or leaving a state that started to fail.

In general I like the idea of anarchism, I just don't think it's realistic. Some people need policing and others have the urge to lead.

[Patrick Chewing]

Paying police less isn’t radical considering how much they get paid in America :facepalm

Don’t you always whine about the government wasting money?

“She praised antifa” so NOW words matter I thought only policy and actions did :lol

You should look up what the average cop salary is. They are vastly underpaid. So yeah, that whole movement is an insane idea by people who haven’t a clue as to what they’re talking about.

If you want to defund something, it should be the salaries we pay the members of Congress.

[Patrick Chewing]

Defunding the police isn't marxist. It's libertarian. In all seriousness: Do you have any clue about politics?

I don’t recall asking for your opinion on this. You’re a shit Lib, so bugger off. The question was about her radicalism and I provided examples as such.

[RRR3]

I had to read excerpts decades ago in school. Didn't really appeal to me.

Of course there were democratic politicians throughout the last 150 somewhat years that had marxist ideas and could implement them into society, but I wouldn't use Allende or Mandela as prime examples. Try european social democrats, they usually had success doing that without falling victim to a coup or leaving a state that started to fail.

In general I like the idea of anarchism, I just don't think it's realistic. Some people need policing and others have the urge to lead.
Getting couped isn’t an example of that form of government not working, it’s an example of capitalism preventing them from succeeding because they want to continue to exploit the global south and have governments sympathetic to American interests installed there.

[RRR3]

You should look up what the average cop salary is. They are vastly underpaid. So yeah, that whole movement is an insane idea by people who haven’t a clue as to what they’re talking about.

If you want to defund something, it should be the salaries we pay the members of Congress.
The average cop makes 30.58 an hour according to Google. That’s a shit ton of money to be paid to be a murderer. People doing essential jobs are getting paid a quarter of that. And fyi defunding the police wouldn’t even decrease the cops salary, you’re just proving you’re clueless. It would decrease the amount of money we put into the institution and on weaponry and pointless stuff.

I’m fine with Congress getting less money they shouldn’t exist at all.

[RRR3]

I don’t recall asking for your opinion on this. You’re a shit Lib, so bugger off. The question was about her radicalism and I provided examples as such.
You can't debate without resorting to melting down and shrieking. Tissue soft.

[RRR3]

You wanted a radical position from her and I gave you two HUGE ones. And now that’s not good enough? Not radical enough?

I swear, is everyone on this board a Democrat?? :lol
Defunding the police is just curbing pointless government spending it's not radical, and you were already told she didn't actually defund, nor is her making a statement an actual policy.

[RRR3]

https://i.imgflip.com/91cuez.jpg

[Overdrive]

I don’t recall asking for your opinion on this. You’re a shit Lib, so bugger off. The question was about her radicalism and I provided examples as such.

You asked for radical leftism. Defunding the police is not. It's radical, but radical libertarian. That's Ron Paul territory not Berny Sanders.

I'm no lib. That's just Q.E.D. You have no clue about politics aside from the agenda that's been shoved down your throat all your life.

[Overdrive]

Getting couped isn’t an example of that form of government not working, it’s an example of capitalism preventing them from succeeding because they want to continue to exploit the global south and have governments sympathetic to American interests installed there.

No it isn't an example, but it also means it didn't have a lasting impact. SA is a wasteland when it comes to political stability. That's why I said europe would be a better example.

[Jasper]

with Trump , every day he spills radical statements... all most like it is his religion.
IMO Pub's act like they are conservatives , (bring back control 101) But they are more liberal than the demo's/

demo's agenda appears under Harris , move forward, lower taxs for the poor and middle class , and bite wealthy in the ass pocketbook.
Insure SS , health care, infostructure is maintained .
Help small businesses , and new home ownership.
they have a tall order to fill including border, as well as two wars.

don't care or what you think you are , but no matter what party says and thinks they will do , tax's always increase.
Biggest example is Reagon : by god I will cut tax's.
2nd term everyone's tax's went up.

[RRR3]

No it isn't an example, but it also means it didn't have a lasting impact. SA is a wasteland when it comes to political stability. That's why I said europe would be a better example.
In terms of creating a welfare state and social programs, sure, but those states are allowed to exist that way because they participate in and/or further American imperialism in various ways. They're the best places on earth to live, but still very morally dubious in terms of helping the global proletariat for the reasons I mentioned.

[RRR3]

You asked for radical leftism. Defunding the police is not. It's radical, but radical libertarian. That's Ron Paul territory not Berny Sanders.

I'm no lib. That's just Q.E.D. You have no clue about politics aside from the agenda that's been shoved down your throat all your life.
He essentially thinks anything to the left of Pinochet is suspicious.

[highwhey]

You should look up what the average cop salary is. They are vastly underpaid. So yeah, that whole movement is an insane idea by people who haven’t a clue as to what they’re talking about.

If you want to defund something, it should be the salaries we pay the members of Congress.

they get paid a lot more than teachers LOL. wtf are you on about?

average teacher pay in 24: 63,373

average pay for police in az: 73,149

Phoenix Police annual budget: 740 million
AZ State Police budget: 444 million
Maricopa County Sherrif's Department budget: $526 million

almost 2 billion dollars between 3 very redundant law enforcement agencies...but that's just 3 in the state, there are 120+ law enforcement agencies in Arizona. Why do universities need their own police department? Why does the department of transportation need 3 different agencies to patrol the highways? FYI, those 120 agencies do not include feds.

But sure, police are underfunded. Even though there are countries who's military budgets don't rival one of these agencie's budgets.

[diamenz]

You wanted a radical position from her and I gave you two HUGE ones. And now that’s not good enough? Not radical enough?

I swear, is everyone on this board a Democrat?? :lol

are you going to answer the question or continue to attempt to twist what i originally asked?




trump calls kamala a marxist. what marxist policies has she been responsible for passing or helping to get passed? what part of her current policy platform is marxist? if she's a marxist, what would that make bernie sanders?

hint: it's okay chewing. you can go against trump on this. he's not going to smite you.

[TheMan]

And what in the world makes you think the Kamala campaign has momentum??

She's now leading in most of the battleground states but now that a Democrat is doing that instead of Trump, we're back to not believing polls again, amirite :lol

[highwhey]

patrickchewing got fckingg ethered in this thread and ran with his tail tucked between his legs. he'll be back later with ad hominem attacks because he can't refute any of the logical arguments.

[Norcaliblunt]

The so called “defund the police” party are running a DA. A complete agent of the prison industrial complex. Let that sink in. You can’t make this stuff up.

And Alameda County courts are some of the biggest rackets in the business. Arresting people in court over petty crimes then forcing them to have to bail themselves out or sit in jail, just so all parts of the machine can get greased.

[ILLsmak]

don't care or what you think you are , but no matter what party says and thinks they will do , tax's always increase.


If you don't want taxes to increase, I bet Trump won't raise taxes. Vote Trump.

Dude may destroy the country and declare himself god emperor, but he's not gonna raise taxes.

Edit: in 4 years, maybe after he turns America into trumpland and they start putting people into concentration camps.

-Smak

[ZenMaster]

yeah but that's the thing... she's not running on the black woman schtick. she's not playing the identity card. she's not cackling anymore. she's been coached and her campaign seems to have read the tea leaves and has adjusted accordingly.

if hillary with all of her baggage and how universally disliked she was almost beat a peak trump, i can see kamala riding the wave to the finish line on this one.

trump would have waaay better off against joe.

I haven't thought Trump is likely to win the coming election for years and we're definitely the underdog, but to say it's impossible and he's already finished I can't agree with. I remember the days after the grab'em by the ***** tape in 2016, I thought it was completely over, but things never remain static and objectively we have a lot going.
Saying Trump had it in the bag at any point this year I think is revisionist history, dems were confident of a win except for those couple of weeks after the debate and the coup against Biden was started.

Elon came over, bought twitter and got fully politically active on the right. Your regular dem will pretend to have never really liked him, but they used to adore him and his tech to help solve climate change.

RFK, a lot of people were going to vote for him as a dem and a lot of those will be voting Trump instead. Conversely you'll be hard pressed to find anyone who'll change their vote away from Trump because the two teamed up.

An indepedendent Tucker Carlson with the #1 podcast on spotify,while he doesn't bring votes with him, he's great at highligthing government hypocrites and fake smear from the left.

As for Kamala, currently the whole media engine is running a superstar campaign for her sprinkled in with some docureality moments. It's similar to Taylor As Swift during her tour in the sense that the campaign is centered around a theme of "look how popular she is, you have to be a part of it!"
But in the end she won't be able to win just by going on the stage like Swift, she'll have to debate Trump and she can't just stand there and say "you're a danger to democracy and needs to be taken out" which is effectively what she's doing now.
You're saying she's adjusted accordingly, but she's also not being pressed on anything. No questions, no pushback from anyone when she talks, just applause and energy.

It's different when you face adversity, she had that stint out in Cali where she went real hard on black guys who'd smoked a bit of weed and apparently there's also a heinous case where she blocked evidence from being looked at for as long as she possibly could where an innocent guy was on death row. I'll be surprised if these things don't come up again, Tulsi used it to end her bid in 2020 asking if she'd like to apologize for it on stage.

About her radical positions, I think supporting doctors being allowed to mutilate kids without a parental consent is extreme and I can't agree with it.
I think making it so it's not illegal to cross the border into the country without permission is extreme and will lead to a situation where you effectively have no borders.
She has the whole "tax the rich so we can use that money for good" instead of focusing on getting coroporations to bring jobs home and give the money directly to the people. This will lead to people being dependent on the state, and the really rich will just move their address to tax havens, taking themselves out of the equation all together.

[RRR3]

Zen ducked Overdrive and my posts cuz he can't respond :lol

[ZenMaster]

Zen ducked Overdrive and my posts cuz he can't respond :lol

There's a lot of posts on the board and I has the one from Diamenz in an old tab from the other day, which part of your circular nonsense would you like me to respond to? You guys should make a separate thread to discuss old European and Soviet politics.

[Patrick Chewing]

patrickchewing got fckingg ethered in this thread and ran with his tail tucked between his legs. he'll be back later with ad hominem attacks because he can't refute any of the logical arguments.

I didn’t get ****ing ethered. I can’t help it if this board is flooded with dipshit Liberals. It’s gotten worse actually. The Liberals that are on here became Nazis too. The Chewster’s days on this board might be numbered. This place is a cesspool.

[Patrick Chewing]

are you going to answer the question or continue to attempt to twist what i originally asked?



hint: it's okay chewing. you can go against trump on this. he's not going to smite you.

You’re focusing on Marxism you dummy. I’m focusing on her radicalism. Which she is a radical.

“Well uhh what are some of uhhh her radical ideas?? Uhh huh uh” - diamenz

Read, m’fer, READ.

[RRR3]

There's a lot of posts on the board and I has the one from Diamenz in an old tab from the other day, which part of your circular nonsense would you like me to respond to? You guys should make a separate thread to discuss old European and Soviet politics.
The ones that were responding to you obviously :hammerhead:

[ZenMaster]

This is incomprehensible. Let's review it:

*You stated the Democrats are left wing
*I disagreed
*You brought up stuff in an attempt to prove to me they were left wing
*I point out one of the things you highlighted is right-wing
*"EXACTLY!"



Genuinely, what are you talking about? I do disagree with Dems on here, you can find me disagreeing with off the Court literally from today. I have told Bladefd many times the Dems suck, etc.

I guess it's this one. One of the things I highlighted being considered right wing in a historical context doesn't mean dems aren't installing left wing policies, it just means that they've evolved with the changing world of tech and more inequality + super rich individuals in the west. I want government to focus on getting jobs to America and people say here that's socialistic, but they still don't consider me a leftist either.

[RRR3]

I guess it's this one. One of the things I highlighted being considered right wing in a historical context doesn't mean dems aren't installing left wing policies, it just means that they've evolved with the changing world of tech and more inequality + super rich individuals in the west. I want government to focus on getting jobs to America and people say here that's socialistic, but they still don't consider me a leftist either.
Massive wealth inequality the level of the United States doesn't happen if the country isn't right-wing lol. You believe the Dems are some radical left party despite them objectively being very right-wing economically speaking because they have a publicly stated few social views (that most Americans are ok with) that make you mad. That's highly irrational.

The second part is just a Chewing level failed insult attempt.

[ZenMaster]

Massive wealth inequality the level of the United States doesn't happen if the country isn't right-wing lol. You believe the Dems are some radical left party despite them objectively being very right-wing economically speaking because they have a publicly stated few social views (that most Americans are ok with) that make you mad. That's highly irrational.

The second part is just a Chewing level failed insult attempt.

I believe dems leadership are evil people, but the every day dumbass supporting them is something else. "Oh now they're so rich now we absolutely need higher taxes and communism" is a deceptive trick.
I don't care if you think I'm highly irrational, everything about your life is a loser and your opinion is the last thing I find interesting.

[RRR3]

I believe dems leadership are evil people, but the every day dumbass supporting them is something else. "Oh now they're so rich now we absolutely need higher taxes and communism" is a deceptive trick.
I don't care if you think I'm highly irrational, everything about your life is a loser and your opinion is the last thing I find interesting.
The Dems ARE evil, but it's because of their RIGHT-WING policies. You still can't tell me what makes them a left-wing party besides "well they say things I don't like". That's not proof at all. tell me what makes them a left wing-party. Real stuff, not vague statements.

Again, Chewing level attempt at insult. zzz

[ZenMaster]

The Dems ARE evil, but it's because of their RIGHT-WING policies. You still can't tell me what makes them a left-wing party besides "well they say things I don't like". That's not proof at all. tell me what makes them a left wing-party. Real stuff, not vague statements.

Again, Chewing level attempt at insult. zzz

No that's my honest opinion and not just some insult, you yourself started of this whole interaction with insults towards me.

I've probably said it 5 times now, letting and encouraging kids to mutulate themselves, replacement immigration and a social system with people depending on the state for jobs I consider radical. The fact that you just think they're trivial social issues just confirms who you are.

Go argue with bladed if you think dems are so bad.

[RRR3]

No that's my honest opinion and not just some insult, you yourself started of this whole interaction with insults towards me.

I've probably said it 5 times now, letting and encouraging kids to mutulate themselves, replacement immigration and a social system with people depending on the state for jobs I consider radical. The fact that you just think they're trivial social issues just confirms who you are.

Go argue with bladed if you think dems are so bad.
Transgender surgeries do not happen before 18, you're just making up stuff lol. I'm not sure how Dems are encouraging people to get the surgery, because they making pandering statements saying "trans people matter" in order to get votes? Talking about LGBTQ rights (while doing very little to actually help them) isn't encouraging people to be trans any more than it's encouraging people to be gay.

As for immigration, the Dems are pretty standard worldwide with their views there. You only think they're radical because they're to the left of the Republicans. Globally it's not, they aren't for open borders.

[Overdrive]

You’re focusing on Marxism you dummy. I’m focusing on her radicalism. Which she is a radical.

“Well uhh what are some of uhhh her radical ideas?? Uhh huh uh” - diamenz

Read, m’fer, READ.

What does radicalism even mean if you can't define which radiclism? She's a radical neo-liberal and law & order advocate. If anything she's pretty conservative leaning, just not small government.

[RRR3]

What does radicalism even mean if you can't define which radiclism? She's a radical neo-liberal and law & order advocate. If anything she's pretty conservative leaning, just not small government.
Conservatives are so far from small government, biggest myth out there. There honestly is no such thing as small government. Some are smaller than others sure. But yes Harris is a conservative. Very conservative depending on the country, in fact.

[ZenMaster]

Transgender surgeries do not happen before 18, you're just making up stuff lol. I'm not sure how Dems are encouraging people to get the surgery, because they making pandering statements saying "trans people matter" in order to get votes? Talking about LGBTQ rights (while doing very little to actually help them) isn't encouraging people to be trans any more than it's encouraging people to be gay.

As for immigration, the Dems are pretty standard worldwide with their views there. You only think they're radical because they're to the left of the Republicans. Globally it's not, they aren't for open borders.

To make such a radical decision at 18 means you we're thinking about it and getting influenced when you were 15,16 and 17 at least. They give out testosterone blockers prior to kids being 18 too which have internal effects and just as well could have required surgery.
Dems encourage the whole industry through laws, lack of oversight and lack of consideration for cautious progression.
Anything that can be sold under the guise of giving someone the possibility of finding their identity and having a good life, is encouraging for people, especially young ones who are already on anti depressants.

I don't care about "views", I care about results. Multiple months recently with more immigrants than kids being born in the US, all states having a negative trade balance, it's a very negative spiral.

[RRR3]

To make such a radical decision at 18 means you we're thinking about it and getting influenced when you were 15,16 and 17 at least. They give out testosterone blockers prior to kids being 18 too which have internal effects and just as well could have required surgery.
Dems encourage the whole industry through laws, lack of oversight and lack of consideration for cautious progression.
Anything that can be sold under the guise of giving someone the possibility of finding their identity and having a good life, is encouraging for people, especially young ones who are already on anti depressants.

I don't care about "views", I care about results. Multiple months recently with more immigrants than kids being born in the US, all states having a negative trade balance, it's a very negative spiral.
Trans people generally start thinking about it before they're 18, yeah. Do you think gay people don't know they're gay before 18? lol.

There are absolutely not more illegal immigrants being born in America than American citizen, that's an insane claim lmao

[bladefd]

I believe the OP is correct. Trump is in major trouble unless something damning releases on Kamala concerning her past. But she was already thoroughly vetted for VP. Not even Russian bots like ZenMaster can save him at this point.

[ZenMaster]

Trans people generally start thinking about it before they're 18, yeah. Do you think gay people don't know they're gay before 18? lol.

There are absolutely not more illegal immigrants being born in America than American citizen, that's an insane claim lmao

Point is that if you want to give people a chance to mutilate themselves, you should be very cautios about how you go about promoting it as a society, especially when you make it a thing for treatment towards later self mutulation is something you make available for kids. I don't know why you keep comparing to gay people, you don't need a surgery to become gay and you can stop being gay anytime you want if it's something you were just experimenting with.

Anyone born in the US is considered a US citizen, I'm talking about people crossing the border as an immigrant vs kids being born minus deaths. Population growth is driven by immigration.

[RRR3]

Point is that if you want to give people a chance to mutilate themselves, you should be very cautios about how you go about promoting it as a society, especially when you make it a thing for treatment towards later self mutulation is something you make available for kids. I don't know why you keep comparing to gay people, you don't need a surgery to become gay and you can stop being gay anytime you want if it's something you were just experimenting with.

Anyone born in the US is considered a US citizen, I'm talking about people crossing the border as an immigrant vs kids being born-deaths in the US.
The fact that you think people can "stop being gay" means it's pointless to discuss LGBTQ issues with you.

Illegal immigrants are 1.9% of the population. You are insane if you think 1.9% of the population is giving birth to more kids than 92.1%.

[j3lademaster]

To make such a radical decision at 18 means you we're thinking about it and getting influenced when you were 15,16 and 17 at least. They give out testosterone blockers prior to kids being 18 too which have internal effects and just as well could have required surgery.
Dems encourage the whole industry through laws, lack of oversight and lack of consideration for cautious progression.
Anything that can be sold under the guise of giving someone the possibility of finding their identity and having a good life, is encouraging for people, especially young ones who are already on anti depressants.

I don't care about "views", I care about results. Multiple months recently with more immigrants than kids being born in the US, all states having a negative trade balance, it's a very negative spiral.

Can you explain what that is to me please?

[ZenMaster]

The fact that you think people can "stop being gay" means it's pointless to discuss LGBTQ issues with you.

Illegal immigrants are 1.9% of the population. You are insane if you think 1.9% of the population is giving birth to more kids than 92.1%.

I don't think people can stop being gay if they're gay, though obviously some people experiment to find out because they unsure just like some people experiment having a hooker leave a dump on their chest because they thought they might like it. But neither of these require surgery and so I don't know why you're bringing being gay into the conversation at all when I was talking about the transgender industry and how the dems support it.

People crossing the border, that number of people was higher in quite a few months than the number of people being born in the US, not kids being born by illegal immigrants. Do you understand that you can only add to the population in two ways, either by having more kids than the number of people dying, or by bringin in more people from the outside than the number of people who leaving.


The United States added 1.6 million people, more than two-thirds of which came from international migration, bringing the nation’s population total to 334.9 million. It marks the second year in a row that immigration powered population gains.

https://fortune.com/2023/12/20/u-s-population-increase-in-2023-was-driven-by-the-most-immigrants-since-2001-and-immigration-will-be-the-main-source-of-growth-in-the-future/

[ZenMaster]

Can you explain what that is to me please?

More imports than exports.

[diamenz]

As for Kamala, currently the whole media engine is running a superstar campaign for her sprinkled in with some docureality moments. It's similar to Taylor As Swift during her tour in the sense that the campaign is centered around a theme of "look how popular she is, you have to be a part of it!"


and that's all it may take. i said sometime almost a month ago when joe endorsed kamala that we're going to see the biggest propaganda campaign from the liberal media in history and it'll be non-stop until november.

it's all about vibes with liberals. that's really all it is. if there's enough excitement around kamala leading up to election day then turnout will be high and democrats will win. when it was still joe i was sure trump had it in the bag, now i feel it's the opposite.

[RRR3]

I don't think people can stop being gay if they're gay, though obviously some people experiment to find out because they unsure just like some people experiment having a hooker leave a dump on their chest because they thought they might like it. But neither of these require surgery and so I don't know why you're bringing being gay into the conversation at all when I was talking about the transgender industry and how the dems support it.

People crossing the border, that number of people was higher in quite a few months than the number of people being born in the US, not kids being born by illegal immigrants. Do you understand that you can only add to the population in two ways, either by having more kids than the number of people dying, or by bringin in more people from the outside than the number of people who leaving.



https://fortune.com/2023/12/20/u-s-population-increase-in-2023-was-driven-by-the-most-immigrants-since-2001-and-immigration-will-be-the-main-source-of-growth-in-the-future/
You said illegal immigrants were giving birth to more children than American citizens, now you're switching it lol.

I'm bringing up gay because you're using the same tired arguments they used against gay marriage.

[Patrick Chewing]

What does radicalism even mean if you can't define which radiclism? She's a radical neo-liberal and law & order advocate. If anything she's pretty conservative leaning, just not small government.

You sound like you would be a holocaust denier. "What does the holocaust even mean?" "Six million Jews murdered? Really?? I'd like to see the evidence."

Her support of a RADICAL idea to defund police departments, which means getting rid of police officers, thus making the streets less safe doesn't strike you as a radical idea? And defund the police doesn't mean pay them less. The Defund the Police movement was and has always been about getting rid of law enforcement all together. If you pay your officers less, your officers quit. If you hire less or let go of officers, then you have essentially defunded the police which in turn means less police presence. Which is what these people wanted all along. Sending social workers to de-escalate domestic disturbances?? :oldlol:


She is the furthest thing from a law and order advocate. You Kamala bootlickers just have no shame.

[ZenMaster]

You said illegal immigrants were giving birth to more children than American citizens, now you're switching it lol.

I'm bringing up gay because you're using the same tired arguments they used against gay marriage.

I'm not switching it, I'm explaining to you what number I was referring to because apparently your retarded ass misunderstood, here's what I wrote:


Multiple months recently with more immigrants than kids being born in the US, all states having a negative trade balance, it's a very negative spiral.

More immigrants than kids being born, not more immigrant kids being born than kids born by US citizens.

I'm talking about self mutilation while you start talking about gays so you can make the point you want and insult me again.. Just go argue with someone else and stick to your one liner BS, like I've said I really don't care what you think and I never engaged with you towards discussion, you just sucked me in with your provocations.

[Patrick Chewing]

She's now leading in most of the battleground states but now that a Democrat is doing that instead of Trump, we're back to not believing polls again, amirite :lol

I don't care what the polls say. How can you honestly sit there, and say that her campaign has momentum when she has been the Democratic nominee for over a month and still has not listed any of her policies for her administration? There is no way in hell anyone has momentum when no one knows how you will govern. She has media hype since the media is controlled by Democrats. That's about it. Media hype. Not voter momentum.

[RRR3]

I'm not switching it, I'm explaining to you what number I was referring to because apparently you're retarded ass misunderstood, here's what I wrote:



More immigrants than kids being born, not more immigrant kids being born than kids born by US citizens.

I'm talking about self mutilation while you start talking about gays so you can make the point you want and insult me again.. Just go argue with someone else and stick to your one liner BS, like I've said I really don't care what you think and I never engaged with you towards discussion, you just sucked me in with your provocations.
Ok I misread that.

Calling it self-mutilation is pretty disingenuous are you against plastic surgery too lol

[RRR3]

You sound like you would be a holocaust denier. "What does the holocaust even mean?" "Six million Jews murdered? Really?? I'd like to see the evidence."

Her support of a RADICAL idea to defund police departments, which means getting rid of police officers, thus making the streets less safe doesn't strike you as a radical idea? And defund the police doesn't mean pay them less. The Defund the Police movement was and has always been about getting rid of law enforcement all together. If you pay your officers less, your officers quit. If you hire less or let go of officers, then you have essentially defunded the police which in turn means less police presence. Which is what these people wanted all along. Sending social workers to de-escalate domestic disturbances?? :oldlol:


She is the furthest thing from a law and order advocate. You Kamala bootlickers just have no shame.
Wow lmao

[j3lademaster]

More imports than exports.interesting. Has the US ever been in a surplus?

[Patrick Chewing]

Wow lmao

I'm glad to see you think it's funny, because on its surface, it's just a crazy insane idea that it's comical and sounds like it's a joke or a prank.


But wait: https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/aoc-abolish-police-daunte-wright-b1831282.html

You see, what does the word "abolish" mean? You Democrats just can't change the definition of a word to your liking, so when someone like AOC says she wants to abolish law enforcement, it doesn't become a laughing matter any longer. So it's not really a joke....it's true.

Per the Oxford Dictionary, the word "abolish" means to put an end to.

And this is the same lunacy that Kamala Harris supports.


Here comes Overdrive any minute now with his "But what radicalism? What's a radical idea?" :oldlol:

[RRR3]

I'm glad to see you think it's funny, because on its surface, it's just a crazy insane idea that it's comical and sounds like it's a joke or a prank.


But wait: https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/aoc-abolish-police-daunte-wright-b1831282.html

You see, what does the word "abolish" mean? You Democrats just can't change the definition of a word to your liking, so when someone like AOC says she wants to abolish law enforcement, it doesn't become a laughing matter any longer. So it's not really a joke....it's true.

Per the Oxford Dictionary, the word "abolish" means to put an end to.

And this is the same lunacy that Kamala Harris supports.


Here comes Overdrive any minute now with his "But what radicalism? What's a radical idea?" :oldlol:
Yeah AOC is to the left of Harris, congratulations on figuring that out. We were talking about Harris, though.

[Patrick Chewing]

Yeah AOC is to the left of Harris, congratulations on figuring that out. We were talking about Harris, though.


And Harris agrees with AOC. I'm painting a broad picture here of the current Democrat candidate. I cannot help it if this is going over your head.


https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/26/politics/kfile-kamala-harris-praised-defund-the-police-movement-in-june-2020/index.html

[RRR3]

And Harris agrees with AOC. I'm painting a broad picture here of the current Democrat candidate. I cannot help it if this is going over your head.


https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/26/politics/kfile-kamala-harris-praised-defund-the-police-movement-in-june-2020/index.html
Defund and abolish are different, you realize that right?

[Patrick Chewing]

Defund and abolish are different, you realize that right?

Well, RRR3, you see, you're wrong once again there. I'm trying to help you see the big picture here.

When you defund something, you remove the funding for it. Police Departments and police officers do not work for free. So if there are no funds to keep the lights on and pay the officers, then you no longer have a police department. I know you're doing your best and trying your hardest to disagree with me, I know it. I know that it goes against every fiber of your being to agree with me on anything. But you cannot sit there with a straight face and try to pass off that abolishing and defunding aren't the same thing.

[ZenMaster]

Ok I misread that.

Calling it self-mutilation is pretty disingenuous are you against plastic surgery too lol

If I went to a surgeon and asked him to cut my arm off, he wou

I'm definitely against anyone being allowed to take payment or gain financially talking about how great it is with bigger tits on social media if they have kids as followers. And if they came up with a pill for 12 year olds to start growing bigger tits, ass and become more horny, you can trust I'd be heavily against that kind of body engineering too. I don't think regular young boys should take HGH either.
I think it's great there's the possibility for poeple who really wants to be a different gender because they're born with different genetics or whatever, but I don't think it should be made a thing in a marketing sense and something there's a movement around.


interesting. Has the US ever been in a surplus?

For about 100 years up until 1975, but it's moving fast in the wrong direction now.



U.S. trade balance for 2022 was $-971.12B, a 13.15% increase from 2021.
U.S. trade balance for 2021 was $-858.24B, a 37.01% increase from 2020.
U.S. trade balance for 2020 was $-626.39B, a 8.28% increase from 2019.
U.S. trade balance for 2019 was $-578.50B, a 2.46% decline from 2018.

[Overdrive]

You sound like you would be a holocaust denier. "What does the holocaust even mean?" "Six million Jews murdered? Really?? I'd like to see the evidence."

You take some extreme unrelated measures, because you're losing an argument.

If you could read I already said she's radical. Defunding the police is radical libertarian not leftist. Her economical views are totally in line with any other neo liberal. You called her radical leftist and now in an attempt to safe face shifted to just radical. So she's radical. Just as Trump is radical. What does it even mean without any further attribution?

You know nothing. Nothing about leftism, nothing about radicalism in any form. You're an indoctrinated GOP puppet perpetuating their accusations and memes without even thinking about it - if you're even able of a critical thought process when it comes to the nonsense the GOP spews.

Show me one leftist state throughout history that had reduced police forces. You can't. You should check on the horse shoe theory to broaden your political horizon. Maybe one day you'll be educated enough to talk about politics without cheap ad homini.

Just for the record: My grandmothers whole family was killed in Auschwitz.


Her support of a RADICAL idea to defund police departments, which means getting rid of police officers, thus making the streets less safe doesn't strike you as a radical idea? And defund the police doesn't mean pay them less. The Defund the Police movement was and has always been about getting rid of law enforcement all together. If you pay your officers less, your officers quit. If you hire less or let go of officers, then you have essentially defunded the police which in turn means less police presence. Which is what these people wanted all along. Sending social workers to de-escalate domestic disturbances?? :oldlol:


She is the furthest thing from a law and order advocate. You Kamala bootlickers just have no shame.

Defund the police can mean anything. From lowering the budget in order to invest it into preventive measures to abolishing the police altogether. Can you throw me a link with Harris demanding the latter?

Lowering the police budget by let's say 10% doesn't make her less L&O. What's her track record as a GA, how many people did she let off the hook? She was even criticized for her prosecution style by the democrat leaning media when she ran for President and VP 4 years ago.

[rawimpact]

He's too old to serve. I'd rather have someone who we do not have to question age-related mental competence versus someone of trump's age. We saw what happened with Biden... the US regardless of political side should not make that mistake again. Create a maximum age limit.

[TheMan]

I don't care what the polls say. How can you honestly sit there, and say that her campaign has momentum when she has been the Democratic nominee for over a month and still has not listed any of her policies for her administration? There is no way in hell anyone has momentum when no one knows how you will govern. She has media hype since the media is controlled by Democrats. That's about it. Media hype. Not voter momentum.
We'll agree to disagree.

This election is STILL Trump vs Not Trump.

We'll see who's right, you believe Trump is popular with a majority of Americans, I believe the opposite...all the Dems had to do was put up an opponent who has a functional brain and Trump is toast. We'll find out in a few weeks who was right :cheers:

[Bill Gates]

We'll agree to disagree.

This election is STILL Trump vs Not Trump.

We'll see who's right, you believe Trump is popular with a majority of Americans, I believe the opposite...all the Dems had to do was put up an opponent who has a functional brain and Trump is toast. We'll find out in a few weeks who was right :cheers:

I am certain that Kamala will win the popular vote. But I am not certain she can capture the out dated electoral college. I think Trump is popular with ~35% of the population. Mostly the rural folk.

[j3lademaster]

He's too old to serve. I'd rather have someone who we do not have to question age-related mental competence versus someone of trump's age. We saw what happened with Biden... the US regardless of political side should not make that mistake again. Create a maximum age limit.Agreed. Cap it at something like 55, with 59 as an exception if you served a term and are running again. Same with positions in congress, Pelosi is like 100 years old, her dad was an og new deal politician from the fdr era for crying out loud. That’s way too fvcking old. Get these boomers out of positions of power.

[j3lademaster]

For about 100 years up until 1975, but it's moving fast in the wrong direction now.
https://research.stlouisfed.org/publications/images/uploads/2019/ES1913Fig1_20190515122411.jpgyeah, of course, it always goes in the wrong direction following large corporate tax cuts lol. How long do we allow history to repeat itself?

[Bill Gates]

Agreed. Cap it at something like 55, with 59 as an exception if you served a term and are running again. Same with positions in congress, Pelosi is like 100 years old, her dad was an og new deal politician from the fdr era for crying out loud. That’s way too fvcking old. Get these boomers out of positions of power.

Caping it at 65 would be fine, the min age 35, so that is a 30 year window and 65 is the accepted retirement age. Usually dementia and whatnot does not hit a man in his 60s. It's usually 70+


If you want to talk about ages in politics, the Supreme Court needs to be dealt with there. Our current situation has SCOTUS members hanging on all the way to their death bed. They need to be given set terms just like the POTUS.

[Patrick Chewing]

Defund the police can mean anything.

No, it literally cannot. I love it when Democrats change the meaning of words and things to suit their narrative.

[Overdrive]

No, it literally cannot. I love it when Democrats change the meaning of words and things to suit their narrative.

Great, you picked one sentence out of a whole argument. That's how you debunk it. I'm no democrat either.

[ShawkFactory]

No, it literally cannot. I love it when Democrats change the meaning of words and things to suit their narrative.

I guess the word itself technically can't. But that slogan has been curated over years of bullshit media back and forth.

The actual stances and potential policies behind it are plentiful.

[diamenz]

No, it literally cannot. I love it when Democrats change the meaning of words and things to suit their narrative.

you're an idiot. you think anyone that doesn't bend over backwards for trump or doesn't lick netanyahu's balls are democrats. that's so *ucking narrow minded. you've become such a shit poster.

next thing we know you'll be calling rawimpact a democrat for saying trump's too old to serve. :rolleyes:

[highwhey]

as usual, patrick is incredibly wrong and makes up his own reality because he cannot otherwise cope with the truth:


“This whole movement is about rightly saying, we need to take a look at these budgets and figure out whether it reflects the right priorities,” Harris said on a New York-based radio program “Ebro in the Morning” on June 9, 2020, adding that US cities were “militarizing police” but “defunding public schools.”

considering how the government spends money in the worst ways possible, one can safely assume, using the context of her own statement, that she was questioning the budget. but i also realize how stupid patrick is and that he will refuse to believe anything that goes against the MAGA narrative whether it's true or false.

[Bill Gates]

you're an idiot. you think anyone that doesn't bend over backwards for trump or doesn't lick netanyahu's balls are democrats. that's so *ucking narrow minded. you've become such a shit poster.

next thing we know you'll be calling rawimpact a democrat for saying trump's too old to serve. :rolleyes:

I can't recall a point in time on this forum where Chewing hasn't been a caricature of what a right winger is. If there was a time, it was before Trump entered politics and told him how to think.

[TheMan]

I can't recall a point in time on this forum where Chewing hasn't been a caricature of what a right winger is. If there was a time, it was before Trump entered politics and told him how to think.

The crazy part is that he was actually against Trump at first, he made a thread saying Trump was purposefully targeting racists for their support and called his supporters dumb rednecks during the early part of the 2016 primaries.

[Patrick Chewing]

you're an idiot. you think anyone that doesn't bend over backwards for trump or doesn't lick netanyahu's balls are democrats. that's so *ucking narrow minded. you've become such a shit poster.

next thing we know you'll be calling rawimpact a democrat for saying trump's too old to serve. :rolleyes:

That's your problem. You think everything is about Trump. You have Trump Derangement Syndrome. When Trump is gone, I will vote for someone with the same policies and outlook for this country. Your problem, the lot of you, is that you are brainwashed to obsess about this one man. I don't care about Trump. I care about this country and this country going forward. Go back and read a majority of my posts over the last 5-6 years. Now go back and read a majority of the posts from the Liberals on this site. I seldom mention Trump. What I do mention is Conservatism and then I call out the Liberals for destroying this country. There's a poster on here who talks about me 24/7 and I completely ignore that fool. I think you all know who I'm talking about. He brings up Trump more than anyone here. Several Libs bring up Trump way more than I do.

Let's face it, our beef comes down to one thing: Israel. You got exposed for the Jew-hating Nazi you are a few months back and it never sat well with you. Hasn't sat well with me either, but I digress. Hilarious that you think everything revolves around Trump. If everything revolves around Trump, it's cause you made it that way.

[Patrick Chewing]

as usual, patrick is incredibly wrong and makes up his own reality because he cannot otherwise cope with the truth:



considering how the government spends money in the worst ways possible, one can safely assume, using the context of her own statement, that she was questioning the budget. but i also realize how stupid patrick is and that he will refuse to believe anything that goes against the MAGA narrative whether it's true or false.

You literally support a person who doesn't know what a garbage disposal in a sink is. And you have the nerve to talk smack about MAGA. :oldlol:

[Bill Gates]

I don't care about Trump.

Says the guy with a Trump avatar.

[Patrick Chewing]

Says the guy with a Trump avatar.

Oh nooooo ya got me!!!


:oldlol:


Go play in the street, Bill.

[ZenMaster]

https://research.stlouisfed.org/publications/images/uploads/2019/ES1913Fig1_20190515122411.jpgyeah, of course, it always goes in the wrong direction following large corporate tax cuts lol. How long do we allow history to repeat itself?

Theoretically own it's own, lowering the corporate tax would make US companies more competitive in international trade, you're thinking about the fiscal deficit and there's a difference.


A fiscal deficit is a situation in which the government spends more money than it takes in through taxes and other revenue. A trade deficit is a situation in which a country imports more goods and services than it exports.

There are a number of factors that can contribute to a fiscal deficit, including:

Economic recessions, which can lead to a decrease in tax revenue and an increase in government spending on unemployment benefits and other social programs.
Wars, which can lead to an increase in government spending on the military.
Tax cuts, which can reduce government revenue.
Increases in government spending, such as on infrastructure or education.
There are a number of factors that can contribute to a trade deficit, including:

The relative prices of goods and services in different countries.
The exchange rate between different currencies.
The level of tariffs and other trade barriers.
The level of economic growth in different countries.

Fiscal deficits and trade deficits can have a number of implications for a country's economy. Fiscal deficits can lead to inflation, as the government has to borrow money to finance its spending. Trade deficits can lead to a loss of jobs in the country's export industries, as businesses may move their production to countries with lower labor costs.

https://www.tutor2u.net/economics/reference/the-difference-between-a-fiscal-deficit-and-a-trade-deficit

Someone smart wrote this stuff 25 yeas ago:


There is a long-term worsening trend in the U.S. trade balance since the 1960s, which is
due to persistent trade barriers abroad and declining competitiveness of U.S. producers.
This long-term deterioration in U.S. trade performance requires either a continuous
depreciation of the dollar, or else slower growth in the U.S. compared with our trading
partners, in order to avoid rising trade deficits.

The U.S. current account deficit is in danger of falling into a “vicious circle,” as the
borrowing required to finance this deficit makes our international debt grow, and the
interest payments required to service our growing foreign debt are becoming a
significant negative factor in the current account balance. Net interest outflows are
projected to be as large by 2005 as the trade deficit for goods and services was in 1998, if
present trends continue.

On the whole, the combination of liberalized financial markets, high real interest rates in
the U.S., and financial volatility abroad has attracted massive inflows of financial capital
into the U.S., which in turn have pushed up the value of the dollar and made U.S.
products less price-competitive than they would be otherwise. This tilt in economic
policies toward the interests of the financial sector has thus disadvantaged producers of
tradeable manufactures, services, and agricultural products in the United States.

https://govinfo.library.unt.edu/tdrc/hearings/19aug99/blecker.pdf

Today we live in the vicious circle he warned about. The government is spending way too much money and companies have too much production overseas, paying people to produce there instead of in the US. The US owes money and the number is increasing every year to keep covering the fiscal deficit. The interest payment on the loans just grows and grows, making the economy worse and worse.
IMO there's a need for a President who's willing to use tariffs or the threat of tariffs towards imports of various relevant products, especially the ones made by American registered companies. Slow down immigration and the costs towards it.
And two:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GVZ9hftW0AArI0e.jpg

[ZenMaster]

and that's all it may take. i said sometime almost a month ago when joe endorsed kamala that we're going to see the biggest propaganda campaign from the liberal media in history and it'll be non-stop until november.

it's all about vibes with liberals. that's really all it is. if there's enough excitement around kamala leading up to election day then turnout will be high and democrats will win. when it was still joe i was sure trump had it in the bag, now i feel it's the opposite.

For sure, best anyone can do is keep highlighting how shit it's been for the last 4 years, hope it reasonates with as many people as possible and that Trump can light up the debates.


https://youtu.be/Y4fjA0K2EeE

[bladefd]

Agreed. Cap it at something like 55, with 59 as an exception if you served a term and are running again. Same with positions in congress, Pelosi is like 100 years old, her dad was an og new deal politician from the fdr era for crying out loud. That’s way too fvcking old. Get these boomers out of positions of power.

59 is too young. I would say cap it to 70.

[j3lademaster]

59 is too young. I would say cap it to 70.

Mid 50’s is the average age of a Fortune 500 ceo. I think that’s plenty old considering they will be ending their term at 63. We can’t have these ghouls who don’t even think about the future because “they’ll be dead anyway” and is just in it for their personal ego and fulfillment. And im not even suggesting this age cap will even fix things, but it’s a start. I might be ok with 60, but 70 is way too old.

[Lakers Legend#32]

I can't recall a point in time on this forum where Chewing hasn't been a caricature of what a right winger is. If there was a time, it was before Trump entered politics and told him how to think.

Poopsie is a right-wing cartoon.

[diamenz]

That's your problem. You think everything is about Trump. You have Trump Derangement Syndrome. When Trump is gone, I will vote for someone with the same policies and outlook for this country. Your problem, the lot of you, is that you are brainwashed to obsess about this one man. I don't care about Trump. I care about this country and this country going forward. Go back and read a majority of my posts over the last 5-6 years. Now go back and read a majority of the posts from the Liberals on this site. I seldom mention Trump. What I do mention is Conservatism and then I call out the Liberals for destroying this country. There's a poster on here who talks about me 24/7 and I completely ignore that fool. I think you all know who I'm talking about. He brings up Trump more than anyone here. Several Libs bring up Trump way more than I do.

Let's face it, our beef comes down to one thing: Israel. You got exposed for the Jew-hating Nazi you are a few months back and it never sat well with you. Hasn't sat well with me either, but I digress. Hilarious that you think everything revolves around Trump. If everything revolves around Trump, it's cause you made it that way.

let me get this straight. you're going to sit here and tell me that i have trump derangement because i'm talking about election day possibilities and predictions? i have tds because i talk about policy and substance? because if i can't talk about those things in regard to the man that has a more or less 50/50 chance of becoming our next president then what can i talk about without being labeled as deranged? are we not allowed to hold him to account? that's absolutely ridiculous. give me a *ucking break.

and now i'm a jew-hating nazi because i criticize and question our military and financial involvement with a foreign nation that does nothing for us but take our money and get us into trouble with the arab world. now how is you calling me a nazi over that fact any different than some libtard calling everything and everybody racist? lmao. you hypocritical *uck. unreal. there's no talking to people like you.

[Patrick Chewing]

let me get this straight. you're going to sit here and tell me that i have trump derangement because i'm talking about election day possibilities and predictions? i have tds because i talk about policy and substance? because if i can't talk about those things in regard to the man that has a more or less 50/50 chance of becoming our next president then what can i talk about without being labeled as deranged? are we not allowed to hold him to account? that's absolutely ridiculous. give me a *ucking break.

and now i'm a jew-hating nazi because i criticize and question our military and financial involvement with a foreign nation that does nothing for us but take our money and get us into trouble with the arab world. now how is you calling me a nazi over that fact any different than some libtard calling everything and everybody racist? lmao. you hypocritical *uck. unreal. there's no talking to people like you.

Where are you talking about policy and substance?? Can't find you talking about that anywhere. All I see you talking about is Trump this and Trump that and Trump is done and blah blah blah. The only candidate in this race that has talked about policy and substance is Trump. Kamala hasn't had one interview and none of her policies have been made public yet. The reason? She's unprepared as hell. But you make a stupid thread like this thinking that Trump is done. What happened to you man? **** the Democrats. When did you become one? Nobody respects a quitter. Much less a turncoat.


And the Arab world is the cause of all the trouble out there, not the other way around. You people live in a bubble. You think the Arab world is a bubbling, shining Metropolis on a hill. It is not. It is a factory of warped ideology hell-bent on global domination. Can you imagine if Christians still talked about Crusading across Europe to reclaim the Holy Land today? Christians would be demonized to no end. Well my ignorant friend, the Arab World talks about "jihad" on a daily basis which is the Christian equivalent, but no one bats an eye. So yes, I don't have a problem one bit with Israel eliminating as many of these Islamo-Nazis as possible. Especially after their unprovoked attack on October 7th.

[diamenz]

Where are you talking about policy and substance?? Can't find you talking about that anywhere. All I see you talking about is Trump this and Trump that and Trump is done and blah blah blah. The only candidate in this race that has talked about policy and substance is Trump. Kamala hasn't had one interview and none of her policies have been made public yet. The reason? She's unprepared as hell. But you make a stupid thread like this thinking that Trump is done. What happened to you man? **** the Democrats. When did you become one? Nobody respects a quitter. Much less a turncoat.


And the Arab world is the cause of all the trouble out there, not the other way around. You people live in a bubble. You think the Arab world is a bubbling, shining Metropolis on a hill. It is not. It is a factory of warped ideology hell-bent on global domination. Can you imagine if Christians still talked about Crusading across Europe to reclaim the Holy Land today? Christians would be demonized to no end. Well my ignorant friend, the Arab World talks about "jihad" on a daily basis which is the Christian equivalent, but no one bats an eye. So yes, I don't have a problem one bit with Israel eliminating as many of these Islamo-Nazis as possible. Especially after their unprovoked attack on October 7th.

i don't favor either candidate and i won't be voting in november. trump may be the lesser of two evils in some ways but i'm not right-wing on economics and certainly not in favor of more wealthy tax cuts.

the democrats haven't anywhere near earned my vote and i think they're an absolute shit party.

in regard to israel and ukraine it's as simple as this to me - america first, period.

[ILLsmak]

i don't favor either candidate and i won't be voting in november. trump may be the lesser of two evils in some ways but i'm not right-wing on economics and certainly not in favor of more wealthy tax cuts.

the democrats haven't anywhere near earned my vote and i think they're an absolute shit party.

in regard to israel and ukraine it's as simple as this to me - america first, period.

I think they're gonna cut more than wealthy taxes. Trump wants Israel to body bag the terrorists and get it over with. It might not be what the bleeding heart people want, but it does seem like America first.

I dunno... if you live in a state where it matters, you should probably make a decision. It's too important to not vote, especially when you care about politics and know something.

It's not even about party or candidate, it's just a choice. It's not worth it to sit out imo. But that's your right.

-Smak

[Overdrive]

let me get this straight. you're going to sit here and tell me that i have trump derangement because i'm talking about election day possibilities and predictions? i have tds because i talk about policy and substance? because if i can't talk about those things in regard to the man that has a more or less 50/50 chance of becoming our next president then what can i talk about without being labeled as deranged? are we not allowed to hold him to account? that's absolutely ridiculous. give me a *ucking break.

and now i'm a jew-hating nazi because i criticize and question our military and financial involvement with a foreign nation that does nothing for us but take our money and get us into trouble with the arab world. now how is you calling me a nazi over that fact any different than some libtard calling everything and everybody racist? lmao. you hypocritical *uck. unreal. there's no talking to people like you.

When you were closer to the Trump campaign he was all lovey dovey to you. Dude isn't about politics, its consequences and accountability. He's a fanboy, just like sports team fan. Nothing else. He doesn't give a shit what Trump does or what policies Trump or his opponents have. He just wants to identify with the winning team and have them one up on the other team. Foe mw that's the most moronic reasoning to participate in politics in anyway.

[RRR3]

When you were closer to the Trump campaign he was all lovey dovey to you. Dude isn't about politics, its consequences and accountability. He's a fanboy, just like sports team fan. Nothing else. He doesn't give a shit what Trump does or what policies Trump or his opponents have. He just wants to identify with the winning team and have them one up on the other team. Foe mw that's the most moronic reasoning to participate in politics in anyway.
Fatrick is incredibly dimwitted.

[j3lademaster]

Anyone here go on Blind? I think that's a good representation of educated, upper middle class, white collars. A lot of them have become disillusioned with what wokeness has become and DEI. It's not enough to get most of them to cast a vote for Trump because their contention is that he's self-serving, too old and incompetent; but it does show that they're willing to consider options if presented with a decent vp who can back some of their values(like Vance used to), is educated(like Vance), and in that 35-55/60 year old range. Need to get a vp who can reach across the aisle, if Trump can secure more than 40% of this demographic he will win.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Replacing Vance would require Trump admitting he made a mistake. I'm not sure he's ever admitted to being wrong...I may be overlooking something but I don't remember that happening. And even if he did replace Vance, who is he more likely to pick, the guy that his advisors think gives them the best chance to win or the guy that flatters him the most?

[Jasper]

common sense :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X01R9yzZNY

your welcome