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[tontoz]

People here must not have much experience with cats. They don't like strangers. Getting anywhere near a cat you dont know is very hard. Even if you feed them they are still inherently skittish. You cant just round them up in a van.

Most likely the only way to catch them would be to shoot them which will obviously attract attention.

[ILLsmak]

I have seen nothing to make me think it's real. I am just pointing out that it doesn't even matter if it is real or not. It's not even a top-100 issue in this country. Not even top-1000.

25 million animals are slaughtered every single day in the US so that we can eat.

It does matter. There is nobody you can convince that it does not matter. That's why people are laughing so hard at the claim, not because it doesn't matter but because it's unbelievably ridiculous. If it WERE happening, that would be huge deal and people would likely know. People would be losing their shit. I just don't understand why it goes from lol ya ok to... well even if it is happening, it's not a big deal. No, it's a big deal.

You're not gonna be able to convince anyone that their pets being killed is OK.

As for it's hard to catch animals, hm, depends on how savvy or hungry it is. It could be a house cat or a cat that is used to being fed. Some cats are really skittish, but others are very anxious to eat and will even let you pet them while they eat. Psychopaths abuse animals. They somehow manage to get their hands on them. There are A LOT of stray cats in most places. But yeah, nobody is gonna go up and grab one. They'd need a plan. Probably a can of food would be enough.

-Smak

[Bill Gates]

It does matter. There is nobody you can convince that it does not matter. That's why people are laughing so hard at the claim, not because it doesn't matter but because it's unbelievably ridiculous. If it WERE happening, that would be huge deal and people would likely know. People would be losing their shit. I just don't understand why it goes from lol ya ok to... well even if it is happening, it's not a big deal. No, it's a big deal.

You're not gonna be able to convince anyone that their pets being killed is OK.

As for it's hard to catch animals, hm, depends on how savvy or hungry it is. It could be a house cat or a cat that is used to being fed. Some cats are really skittish, but others are very anxious to eat and will even let you pet them while they eat. Psychopaths abuse animals. They somehow manage to get their hands on them. There are A LOT of stray cats in most places. But yeah, nobody is gonna go up and grab one. They'd need a plan. Probably a can of food would be enough.

-Smak

It's ridiculous from top to bottom and doesn't belong in a Presidential Debate at all.

Are you going to vote for Trump because you believe he is going to save your pet from being eaten by a Haitian?

No one is scared of their pet being eaten today. It's a fear mongering tactic that not even the dumbest people in country will worry about.

[ZenMaster]

Even if in Ohio there are several examples of Haitians eating cats it is still not a real issue that the country is facing. We have to move away from idiocracy like this.

For Springfield residents the issue is much bigger than a few abducted cats, watch the video from the town hall they had on it. These Haitians were all put in the same place by the government, it's not random they're all allowed to go to the same city and become +25% of the population.

[tontoz]

It does matter. There is nobody you can convince that it does not matter. That's why people are laughing so hard at the claim, not because it doesn't matter but because it's unbelievably ridiculous. If it WERE happening, that would be huge deal and people would likely know. People would be losing their shit. I just don't understand why it goes from lol ya ok to... well even if it is happening, it's not a big deal. No, it's a big deal.

You're not gonna be able to convince anyone that their pets being killed is OK.

As for it's hard to catch animals, hm, depends on how savvy or hungry it is. It could be a house cat or a cat that is used to being fed. Some cats are really skittish, but others are very anxious to eat and will even let you pet them while they eat. Psychopaths abuse animals. They somehow manage to get their hands on them. There are A LOT of stray cats in most places. But yeah, nobody is gonna go up and grab one. They'd need a plan. Probably a can of food would be enough.

-Smak


No it really isn't.

If a cat actually is a pet it is probably pretty well fed. It isn't going to be desperate enough to let a stranger get close enough to touch them just for food.

If the cat is a stray it will be skittish even if you feed them. There is no chance of catching a stray cat on foot.

[Real Men Wear Green]

You are stupid. Just because someone lost a pet doesn't mean they will find the person eating their pet… there are interviews with many citizens that HAVE seen Haitians with cats. They HAVE seen cat corpses.
It should be illegal for someone that writes something this stupid to call someone else stupid. I will repeat the point that you can't refute: who is saying that their pet was eaten? If this is a problem that has to be discussed in the presidential debate should not there be at least one aggrieved party to step forward and make the accusations that there pet was eaten?


If there was a lawsuit... there would be no lawsuit because there is no accuser.

[Real Men Wear Green]

The idea is that people are being placed where they don't belong and are causing problems because the places are not able to support them. Them eating cats is an example of that. Just like if they were shitting on the street. Does it affect the world, no, but it's something worth mentioning.
Even this part has nothing to do with Springfield. The town invited people to fill jobs that were vacant that no one wanted. The overwhelming majority of those Haitians are in this country legally working the jobs that the town was advertising.

[RRR3]

Why is it all the absolute dumbest people on the board support Trump?

Harris supporters are pretty ignorant as well but more of a “Harris is going to help people” type ignorance than “THE HAITANS ARE EATING OUR CATS!!!1!1!” Type.

[BigKobeFan]

Why is it all the absolute dumbest people on the board support Trump?

Harris supporters are pretty ignorant as well but more of a “Harris is going to help people” type ignorance than “THE HAITANS ARE EATING OUR CATS!!!1!1!” Type.

This is rich coming from a guy who eats hot pockets in his mom's basement.

[BigKobeFan]

Why is it all the absolute dumbest people on the board support Trump?

Harris supporters are pretty ignorant as well but more of a “Harris is going to help people” type ignorance than “THE HAITANS ARE EATING OUR CATS!!!1!1!” Type.

This is rich coming from a guy who eats hot pockets in his mom's basement.

[RRR3]

This is rich coming from a guy who eats hot pockets in his mom's basement.
Stop projecting, shew, we know you live in your uncles basement.

[paksat]

just vote for the puppet bitch who does the war industries bidding regardless of how you feel about the debate ( no I didn't watch it, didn't watch the biden debate either )

[Hey Yo]

Even this part has nothing to do with Springfield. The town invited people to fill jobs that were vacant that no one wanted. The overwhelming majority of those Haitians are in this country legally working the jobs that the town was advertising.
Ohio governor DeWine just said while being interviewed that the residents nor the state had a say on those Haitians coming there. There was no open invitation for the 15,000 that have come over the last 4yrs.

[Patrick Chewing]

This is rich coming from a guy who eats hot pockets in his mom's basement.

:lol


RRR3's room must smell of hot pockets and cheetos and mountain dew.

[RRR3]

:lol


My room smells of hot pockets and cheetos and mountain dew.
Interesting

[Hey Yo]

"One big question: Why did Haitians start moving to Springfield in the first place?

Reporter Lynn Husley, who has extensively covered the Haitian community there, says this: “They are attracted to a community that has plentiful job opportunities and supportive services for them.”

Hulsey says sources she has interviewed report those who come to Springfield will tell their family and friends back home they can find affordable living in Springfield as well.

https://www.daytondailynews.com/local/haitian-immigrants-in-springfield-ohio-why-they-chose-this-city/2YSECZBYS5DYTF35SC5U4QS5SI/

[ILLsmak]

Why is it all the absolute dumbest people on the board support Trump?

Harris supporters are pretty ignorant as well but more of a “Harris is going to help people” type ignorance than “THE HAITANS ARE EATING OUR CATS!!!1!1!” Type.

I only came in seriously when dude was trying to act like even if there were some incidents, it wouldn’t be a big deal. And no it doesn’t matter if the dude is legal.

You might think it’s ok, but I promise you if one hatian is even credibly alleged to have eaten a pet, the wheels are gonna fall off this. You can’t hedge this bet. AFAIK it’s not true. I am not even seriously considering it, but people who are gonna cuck out some of our pets for political vision, yea I’m ready to go to war on that. I am sure other people are, too. That is even crazier than the initial statement.

How many cats are too many??

-Smak

[j3lademaster]

Googled “Is haiti nice to visit” and got this:


https://youtube.com/watch?v=Glx7AmJW_FY&si=87NMxKrPlGoHVfUg

Edit: this site sucks on phone lol. Video is from a guy called Indigo Traveler if you’re worried about your feed.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Good News MAGAS!

Tulsi is gonna help JD Vance prepare for his debate too!

[j3lademaster]

Good News MAGAS!

Tulsi is gonna help JD Vance prepare for his debate too!Tulsi might actually beat Walz, but JD just isn’t clever or witty(despite his intelligence) and has no charisma.

[coin24]

America the third world shithole:oldlol:

Still arguing over what team they’re on while the whole country has gone to shit:lol:cheers:

[TheMan]

We've descended into debating whether cats are being eaten or not :lol Can we get any dumber? Hundreds of more important issues yet it's "immigrants are eating pets!" :facepalm

[diamenz]

i still can't believe kamala actually won that debate. wtf was trump thinking?

[diamenz]

We've descended into debating whether cats are being eaten or not :lol Can we get any dumber? Hundreds of more important issues yet it's "immigrants are eating pets!" :facepalm

notice it's only the partisan idiots on either side going on and on for pages about it.

[Dbrog]

Tulsi might actually beat Walz, but JD just isn’t clever or witty(despite his intelligence) and has no charisma.

Have you ever heard JD speak in something long-form? I don't know how you could say those things if you had

[RRR3]

Have you ever heard JD speak in something long-form? I don't know how you could say those things if you had
You’re dumb as a rock of course you’d think JD Vance isn’t retarded.

[jstern]

i still can't believe kamala actually won that debate. wtf was trump thinking?

She didn't win. Trump could have gone many directions and destroy her, but didn't.

People seem to judge by style, Kamala was lying left and right, blatantly, for example the bloodbath comment. Didn't answer a good majority of the question, redirecting to written and memorized comments, which came across as inaunthentic. Trump was being interrupted and "fact checked", with Kamala not getting fact checked not even once, including her blatant lie. The moderators are "fact checking" Trump, undermining everything his saying, bringing up his January 6 speech and purposefully omitting the part where he tells the crowd to go peacefully. Kamala said that officers died on January 6, not fact checked. This is just stuff off of my head.

With Trump having to battle a lying, smearing 3 on 1, I can understand how Kamala fans, who couldn't even care that she wouldn't provide evidence to free an innocent man on death row, that kind of substance, can feel that they won having to put Trump more on the defensive, and because they believe the smears during the debate.

But the fact of the matter is that Trump outside of the superficial Trump was staying on point, bringing up the border problem and the negatives regarding that, the wars, which Kamala made clear she's going to continue, and the economy. And that's why you see a bump in Trumps numbers, despite people thinking that he lost the debate.

These were actual things of substance that stay in people's mind, and look better during media clips, versus how they came off during the debate.


Have you ever heard JD speak in something long-form? I don't know how you could say those things if you had

That's what I was thinking. The main thing about Vance is his ability to speak off the cuff.

I haven't seen the interview in over a month, and not to sound full of myself, but I remember thinking that I wish I was in such a position, because I have many moments in real life where I verbally destroy embarrass people who might try to F with me, due to memory and logic. In other words, people, in the main, try to twist and turn, frame things in a more favorable way, and being able to reverss that during an argument is very powerful.

Even during the debate, I was thinking, Vance would have destroyed Kamala.

[warriorfan]

She didn't win. Trump could have gone many directions and destroy her, but didn't.

People seem to judge by style, Kamala was lying left and right, blatantly, for example the bloodbath comment. Didn't answer a good majority of the question, redirecting to written and memorized comments, which came across as inaunthentic. Trump was being interrupted and "fact checked", with Kamala not getting fact checked not even once, including her blatant lie. The moderators are "fact checking" Trump, undermining everything his saying, bringing up his January 6 speech and purposefully omitting the part where he tells the crowd to go peacefully. Kamala said that officers died on January 6, not fact checked. This is just stuff off of my head.

With Trump having to battle a lying, smearing 3 on 1, I can understand how Kamala fans, who couldn't even care that she wouldn't provide evidence to free an innocent man on death row, that kind of substance, can feel that they won having to put Trump more on the defensive, and because they believe the smears during the debate.

But the fact of the matter is that Trump outside of the superficial Trump was staying on point, bringing up the border problem and the negatives regarding that, the wars, which Kamala made clear she's going to continue, and the economy. And that's why you see a bump in Trumps numbers, despite people thinking that he lost the debate.



That's what I was thinking. The main thing about Vance is his ability to speak off the cuff.

I haven't seen the interview in over a month, and not to sound full of myself, but I remember thinking that I wish I was in such a position, because I have many moments in real life where I verbally destroy embarrass people who might try to F with me, due to memory and logic. In other words, people in the main, try to twist and turn, frame things in a more favorable way, and being able to revers that during an argument is very powerful.

Even during the debate, I was thinking, Vance would have destroyed Kamala.

Kudos for delivering an objective take.

As the same with an NBA game, we don’t want to focus on officiating but you have to admit there was more pointed re-directs from the moderators towards trump than vice versa.

Kamala did have her share of avoiding questions and resorting to, in my opinion, terrible body language.

Trump did go off the rails a bit, he blew one of his best opportunities when he was trying to get Kamala to commit on what month of term of abortion she signs off on after they were trying to pin trump down with the same question, but trump did take it too far and went back with his aborting babies after birth.

All in all though it was definitely not a landslide win and there was biased moderating.

Tbh not admitting there wasn’t fair moderation (or doubling down and wallowing in it as RMWG has)….thats where it gets weird

[diamenz]

She didn't win. Trump could have gone many directions and destroy her, but didn't.

People seem to judge by style, Kamala was lying left and right, blatantly, for example the bloodbath comment. Didn't answer a good majority of the question, redirecting to written and memorized comments, which came across as inaunthentic. Trump was being interrupted and "fact checked", with Kamala not getting fact checked not even once, including her blatant lie. The moderators are "fact checking" Trump, undermining everything his saying, bringing up his January 6 speech and purposefully omitting the part where he tells the crowd to go peacefully. Kamala said that officers died on January 6, not fact checked. This is just stuff off of my head.

With Trump having to battle a lying, smearing 3 on 1, I can understand how Kamala fans, who couldn't even care that she wouldn't provide evidence to free an innocent man on death row, that kind of substance, can feel that they won having to put Trump more on the defensive, and because they believe the smears during the debate.

But the fact of the matter is that Trump outside of the superficial Trump was staying on point, bringing up the border problem and the negatives regarding that, the wars, which Kamala made clear she's going to continue, and the economy. And that's why you see a bump in Trumps numbers, despite people thinking that he lost the debate.

These were actual things of substance that stay in people's mind, and look better during media clips, versus how they came off during the debate.



That's what I was thinking. The main thing about Vance is his ability to speak off the cuff.

I haven't seen the interview in over a month, and not to sound full of myself, but I remember thinking that I wish I was in such a position, because I have many moments in real life where I verbally destroy embarrass people who might try to F with me, due to memory and logic. In other words, people, in the main, try to twist and turn, frame things in a more favorable way, and being able to reverss that during an argument is very powerful.

Even during the debate, I was thinking, Vance would have destroyed Kamala.

the entire political world from the far left to the far right is saying otherwise.

2016 trump would have absolutely destroyed that woman. he would have flipped the "3 on1" on it's head and made them all look bad and left them shook. but he didn't. he blew it. he took the bait on all kinds of shit. he was defending his crowd sizes during a border question ffs because he couldn't help himself. he could have capitalized on that topic so much better but he blew it. the border is his bread and butter. sorry, trump is finished.

if he wants to have any chance at recovering he needs to fire his debate advisors and bring back what we used to see.

[Patrick Chewing]

notice it's only the partisan idiots on either side going on and on for pages about it.

You turned your back on Trump. You broke my heart!

https://i.gifer.com/2QHM.gif

[Patrick Chewing]

You’re dumb as a rock of course you’d think JD Vance isn’t retarded.

Do you have a degree from Yale? Nope, your bum ass works at a library picking up trash. :oldlol:

[diamenz]

You turned your back on Trump. You broke my heart!

https://i.gifer.com/2QHM.gif

no chewing this is exactly what i mean. you, me, this entire forum - our brains are rotted because we spend too much time online and whether you believe the eating cats shit is true or false, we know what trump was referring to.

but you've got swing voters - everyday people that don't dip themselves into the shit we hear online and they're sitting at home saying to themselves what the *uuuck.

[diamenz]

She didn't win. Trump could have gone many directions and destroy her, but didn't.

.

bro! my point exactly. he whiffed multiple answers that were his bread & butter because kamala baited him on shit.

talking about the border? kamala brings up his rallies and he runs with it for the majority of his answer. and then after that, the cat hoax.

talking about migrant crime? "oh that reminds me - you're a criminal" and he takes the bait.

whiff after whiff after whiff. in the past, trump was always in control of the narrative. he'd take the game over like lebron or jordan. he'd shit on the moderators. he'd shit on little marco or crooked hillary or make jeb look like a child. bro - trump was not having fun out there. kamala knew exactly what bait to throw his way and he fell for all of it.

[bladefd]

bro! my point exactly. he whiffed multiple answers that were his bread & butter because kamala baited him on shit.

talking about the border? kamala brings up his rallies and he runs with it for the majority of his answer. and then after that, the cat hoax.

talking about migrant crime? "oh that reminds me - you're a criminal" and he takes the bait.

whiff after whiff after whiff. in the past, trump was always in control of the narrative. he'd take the game over like lebron or jordan. he'd shit on the moderators. he'd shit on little marco or crooked hillary or make jeb look like a child. bro - trump was not having fun out there. kamala knew exactly what bait to throw his way and he fell for all of it.

Kamala/her team are using Trump's ego against him because they know he will fall for it every time. It's like throwing a bone across the field, knowing your dog will go chasing after it no matter what.

[TheMan]

notice it's only the partisan idiots on either side going on and on for pages about it.

Pretty much

[TheMan]

Kamala/her team are using Trump's ego against him because they know he will fall for it every time. It's like throwing a bone across the field, knowing your dog will go chasing after it no matter what.

I think the point diamenz is making is that 2016 Trump wouldn't have fallen for those baits, he was quick on his feet, he was even funny on his comebacks. That version of Trump would have had Harris shook. 2024 Trump just doesn't have it, he wasn't even good vs Biden, but Biden was having a mini stroke during their debate that took all of the attention. There's a reason Trump and his team don't want another debate, dude is finished, hell even his rallies now are a 2 hr snorefest, he knows it, he just goes on weird tangents about how awesome he is, that's why he got so triggered after Harris mentioned that, that's the moment he went off the rails.

[ILLsmak]

i still can't believe kamala actually won that debate. wtf was trump thinking?

Imo he had a plan. I think it was wrong, but I don’t think he got rattled and went off the rails, I think he thought he was doing the right thing.

In a lot of the Hillary debates, I was like yooo but they looked better later. He pushed back harder and in different ways. When dudes were like no records of pets, he was like I saw it on tv. If he had said look it up or something, it would have been way stronger. That’s where he failed, his last words were not convincing.

Still he had some bars. He said some savage trump stuff and didn’t go after her race or sex or w / e. He needs to stop repeating so much about immigration. It’s not 16. He should have done inflation.

He got his message across, but he didn’t have the impact he should have.

-Smak

[jstern]

That's what I was thinking. The main thing about Vance is his ability to speak off the cuff.

I haven't seen the interview in over a month, and not to sound full of myself, but I remember thinking that I wish I was in such a position, because I have many moments in real life where I verbally destroy embarrass people who might try to F with me, due to memory and logic. In other words, people, in the main, try to twist and turn, frame things in a more favorable way, and being able to reverse that during an argument is very powerful.

Even during the debate, I was thinking, Vance would have destroyed Kamala.

I completely forgot to embed the video that I was referring to.


https://youtu.be/N7GiUYYJh7w

For someone like me, it's quite refreshing. You have the activist CNN people, who are expert at manipulating speech, lying by omitting, and twisting words, to make certain political figures look good, even if that political figure has stolen valor. It's the reason why they have their jobs. Going up against a person who straightens the actual meaning back, every single time, and in doing so making the host look like an idiot (while not being rude). That's very powerful. And like I've mentioned before, I've had people in real life, loud people, unable to speak and start destroying stuff. So I kind of understand that the host is probably seething.




Tbh not admitting there wasn’t fair moderation (or doubling down and wallowing in it as RMWG has)….thats where it gets weird

I've yet to read any of his posts, (I only read a little of the OP and diamenz post). And I just realized that this thread is 20 pages long. But this RMWG, I generally don't read his posts, because they have an Off the Court feel.


bro! my point exactly. he whiffed multiple answers that were his bread & butter because kamala baited him on shit.

talking about the border? kamala brings up his rallies and he runs with it for the majority of his answer. and then after that, the cat hoax.

talking about migrant crime? "oh that reminds me - you're a criminal" and he takes the bait.

whiff after whiff after whiff. in the past, trump was always in control of the narrative. he'd take the game over like lebron or jordan. he'd shit on the moderators. he'd shit on little marco or crooked hillary or make jeb look like a child. bro - trump was not having fun out there. kamala knew exactly what bait to throw his way and he fell for all of it.

So Trump points out migrant crime, which is a must to do, and you think that it's a win moment for Kamala because they 'clapped back' with he's a criminal? That's like Blade logic/thinking. (No, I'm not calling you mentally crippled, like Blade) They're going to brand Trump a criminal, through pure corruption that the vast majority of reasonable people see through, and you're just going to accept that as a good example due to the superficial optics of the moment?

So Kamala is going to smear and lie, lie, lie. Blatantly. But it's a win, due to the optics of the moment.

I just can't view things that way, because if someone is being so manipulative, not answering questions, not giving anything of substance, is depending on people being suckers, like Blade and Off the Court. Talking a big game about how they're going to change things that they can put a stop to right now (open borders). If they are full of shit, how am I going to think that that person won?

She looked fake and rehearsed, with nothing spontaneous, but I understand that people in the main are not going to see that, and are going to judge by the fake gotcha moments that the media amplify as a major win.

My point is that people are judging it in a superficial way, a performance, while deep down understanding, that Trump provided more substance and actually said things that will stick in their mind. Things that play better in clips.

You're going to have clips of Kamala saying that Trump is a felon. Ok, that's something that we have been seeing for months. Not new. But with Trump, what you have are clips of Trump talking about, say the open borders and the chaos that it's causing. Actual real things.

When the memories of the debate fade, what message are the people left with?

[RRR3]

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:lol

[bladefd]

I think the point diamenz is making is that 2016 Trump wouldn't have fallen for those baits, he was quick on his feet, he was even funny on his comebacks. That version of Trump would have had Harris shook. 2024 Trump just doesn't have it, he wasn't even good vs Biden, but Biden was having a mini stroke during their debate that took all of the attention. There's a reason Trump and his team don't want another debate, dude is finished, hell even his rallies now are a 2 hr snorefest, he knows it, he just goes on weird tangents about how awesome he is, that's why he got so triggered after Harris mentioned that, that's the moment he went off the rails.

He was kind of like that in 2016 too though. If someone hurt his ego, he would go after them. The difference was that Hillary didn't try to bruise his ego (remember the "When they go low, we go high to be better"?). Kamala is going right at his ego in a very different strategy than Hillary in 2016.

[TheMan]

He was kind of like that in 2016 too though. If someone hurt his ego, he would go after them. The difference was that Hillary didn't try to bruise his ego (remember the "When they go low, we go high to be better"?). Kamala is going right at his ego in a very different strategy than Hillary in 2016.

Yeah...well it's official, Trump don't want wanna debate Harris anymore. The Democrats gonna have a field day with this calling him chicken...

So now there's extra pressure on Vance to do well vs Walz, and unlike Walz who has a folksy charisma about him, Vance is universally disliked by most Americans, more disliked than even Trump :lol Da fuq was Trump thinking when he picked that dead weight, should have tried to get Haley (or even Gabbard) on his ticket :facepalm First post debate poll (Reuters/Ipsos) has Harris winning by 5% nationally and nearly every swing state, including NC and GA.

[Real Men Wear Green]

If Trump can behave (haha) I think they'll take Georgia back. But they ****ed up with that Robinson guy in North Carolina. He's crazy, he's going to lose and he's actually going to drag Trump down.

[diamenz]

So Trump points out migrant crime, which is a must to do, and you think that it's a win moment for Kamala because they 'clapped back' with he's a criminal? That's like Blade logic/thinking. (No, I'm not calling you mentally crippled, like Blade) They're going to brand Trump a criminal, through pure corruption that the vast majority of reasonable people see through, and you're just going to accept that as a good example due to the superficial optics of the moment?



that's not what i'm saying - reread my posts in their entirety.

this is what i'm trying to convey. on topics where trump could have and should have delivered most, on topics that are his bread and butter - he deviated from because kamala baited him on off-topics that bruise his ego during that allotted answer time. trump couldn't help himself and he took up the majority of that time on those topics boasting about his crowd sizes, litigating his inheritance, defending his court cases, defending jan 6th, getting cheated in the election. all topics that people are sick and tired of hearing about.

you can't look at this from your perspective - if you're a swing voter and you're concerned about the border, about migrant crime, about the economy, what did you get out of this? nothing. more airing of grievances on the same tired topics. trump took the bait and whiffed on topics where he should have capitalized on most. he didn't even hit kamala on her position as border czar. i mean, how do you flop this hard?

[ILLsmak]

He was kind of like that in 2016 too though. If someone hurt his ego, he would go after them. The difference was that Hillary didn't try to bruise his ego (remember the "When they go low, we go high to be better"?). Kamala is going right at his ego in a very different strategy than Hillary in 2016.

Dude you must have forgot haha.

She invented calling him DONALD. She called him a fake billionaire. She went at him pretty hard. They did have the slogan of when they go low, we go high, but it was, as most stuff is, bullshit.

Hillary baited Trump hard. I think that Trump figures IF the attention is focused on Springfield Ohio, for instance, that it's a win for him, even if they make fun of him for saying they are eating cats.

The difference between this and 2016 is Trump didn't have any strong comebacks, but he also avoided saying anything like "She's a nasty woman." I mean, Biden said Trump was cheating with a porn star while his wife was pregnant. haha. They have been going right at Trump. The stuff about the rallys may be a sore spot. Hillary couldn't say that before because it wasn't true. It is at least kinda true now. I dunno if people are leaving, but I do know that he's not as interesting to listen to, and even back then it was like OK yea I've heard enough.

But yeah Hillary was absolutely personal with him; I am shocked you do not remember. This whole Kamala is a better candidate / has a better plan than Hillary is a funny take.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBhrSdjePkk

-Smak

[Hey Yo]

Yeah...well it's official, Trump don't want wanna debate Harris anymore. The Democrats gonna have a field day with this calling him chicken...

So now there's extra pressure on Vance to do well vs Walz, and unlike Walz who has a folksy charisma about him, Vance is universally disliked by most Americans, more disliked than even Trump :lol Da fuq was Trump thinking when he picked that dead weight, should have tried to get Haley (or even Gabbard) on his ticket :facepalm First post debate poll (Reuters/Ipsos) has Harris winning by 5% nationally and nearly every swing state, including NC and GA.

He's already done 2 debates, why do a 3rd? Why would they call Trump out when they're the ones turned down a debate on FOX? He had no problems doing CNN and ABC.

He called her out on the inflation, immigration and crime over these last 4yrs... I'd say he got his points across to the voters while she.... got him mad and???

[Off the Court]

:lol

:roll:

[warriorfan]

I completely forgot to embed the video that I was referring to.


https://youtu.be/N7GiUYYJh7w

For someone like me, it's quite refreshing. You have the activist CNN people, who are expert at manipulating speech, lying by omitting, and twisting words, to make certain political figures look good, even if that political figure has stolen valor. It's the reason why they have their jobs. Going up against a person who straightens the actual meaning back, every single time, and in doing so making the host look like an idiot (while not being rude). That's very powerful. And like I've mentioned before, I've had people in real life, loud people, unable to speak and start destroying stuff. So I kind of understand that the host is probably seething.



I've yet to read any of his posts, (I only read a little of the OP and diamenz post). And I just realized that this thread is 20 pages long. But this RMWG, I generally don't read his posts, because they have an Off the Court feel.



So Trump points out migrant crime, which is a must to do, and you think that it's a win moment for Kamala because they 'clapped back' with he's a criminal? That's like Blade logic/thinking. (No, I'm not calling you mentally crippled, like Blade) They're going to brand Trump a criminal, through pure corruption that the vast majority of reasonable people see through, and you're just going to accept that as a good example due to the superficial optics of the moment?

So Kamala is going to smear and lie, lie, lie. Blatantly. But it's a win, due to the optics of the moment.

I just can't view things that way, because if someone is being so manipulative, not answering questions, not giving anything of substance, is depending on people being suckers, like Blade and Off the Court. Talking a big game about how they're going to change things that they can put a stop to right now (open borders). If they are full of shit, how am I going to think that that person won?

She looked fake and rehearsed, with nothing spontaneous, but I understand that people in the main are not going to see that, and are going to judge by the fake gotcha moments that the media amplify as a major win.

My point is that people are judging it in a superficial way, a performance, while deep down understanding, that Trump provided more substance and actually said things that will stick in their mind. Things that play better in clips.

You're going to have clips of Kamala saying that Trump is a felon. Ok, that's something that we have been seeing for months. Not new. But with Trump, what you have are clips of Trump talking about, say the open borders and the chaos that it's causing. Actual real things.

When the memories of the debate fade, what message are the people left with?

This is actually pretty smart. I used to do this. For the longest time I didn’t know who RMWG was. Blade too. I guess for whatever reason I wouldn’t even read their posts. I think I would read a sentence or two but they would have “npc” vibes and my mind would auto gloss over it. I started reading them for some reason and wow, what a mistake. I should really go back to not reading anything they post. The juice isn’t nearly worth the squeeze

[ZenMaster]

A while back I posted a two hour JB interview. You weren't interested. That's fine, but please don't expect sane people to waste a half hour watching racists rant. Pets are missing? Being eaten? Ok. Who, as in, which people, are saying that their cat was eaten? If this testimony is buried somewhere in your video then surely you can link to an article where "So-and-so of Springfield, OH has not seen Garfield in two weeks. Foul play and a side of potatoes are suspected."

A woman named Kimberly Newton heard it from a friend who knew someone it supposedly happened to. Kimberly told her neighbour named Erika Lee who posted about it in a Springfield crime group - she wrote that it was the sister of someone Kimberly knew, but that wasn't correct, it was just friend.

https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_676,w_577,x_0,y_0/dpr_1.5/c_limit,w_690/fl_lossy,q_auto/Screenshot_2024-09-13_at_11.43.14_omkinp

[RRR3]

A woman named Kimberly Newton heard it from a friend who knew someone it supposedly happened to. Kimberly told her neighbour named Erika Lee who posted about it in a Springfield crime group - she wrote that it was the sister of someone Kimberly knew, but that wasn't correct, it was just friend.

https://img.thedailybeast.com/image/upload/c_crop,d_placeholder_euli9k,h_676,w_577,x_0,y_0/dpr_1.5/c_limit,w_690/fl_lossy,q_auto/Screenshot_2024-09-13_at_11.43.14_omkinp
This is literally hearsay and you would be laughed out of a courtroom for it.

[Norcaliblunt]

Trumps a ringer.

[tontoz]

This is literally hearsay and you would be laughed out of a courtroom for it.



https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/1000004266.jpg

[ZenMaster]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvZTr3F_YZI

Thanks for posting this. Interesting that hardly anyone has anything good to say about how these migrants affect the local community except for the CEO of a company employing some 0.15% of the Haitians in Springfield.

The drivers license issue is particularly interesting, much more than pets going missing and if someone is eating them.
All government employees was fine to say that Haitian immigrants "have to take a test" to get their US drivers license but refuse to say anything but that, it's a giveaway that there's some bad practice going on and there some kind of BS about that test - probably that it's made in way so it's very easy for the Haitians to get a US drivers license.

[ZenMaster]

This is literally hearsay and you would be laughed out of a courtroom for it.

I'm not a lawyer and am rarely in court, so don't really care.

[ZenMaster]

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/g195/tontoz/1000004266.jpg


https://youtu.be/1Ww0EUopAlk

[Norcaliblunt]

What’s funny is the left tried to pull this same thing on RFK JR. saying he was eating dogs in some exotic place.

Seriously did we all not witness the MSM smear Kennedy for allegedly eating dogs?

[tontoz]

https://youtu.be/1Ww0EUopAlk

Are you stupid, or do you just do good impressions? We are talking about what is happening in the United States.

Are we supposed to believe that someones pet got stolen, killed and was about to be eaten and someone saw this but didn't take a picture or vid?

:facepalm

[Real Men Wear Green]

And we still have no one saying their cat or dog was eaten.
Run into the police station and tell them, "haitians are eating dogs. " When they ask you whose dog is being eaten tell them you don't know. When they ask you which specific Haitian at the dog tell them that you don't know. And when they ask which dog was eaten tell them that you don't know. Do you think you're going to get anything beyond an upload to YouTube? And yet this has become one of the focal points of current presidential political discussion. It's really just about racist idiots that the Right can no longer keep on the fringes of their party.
What’s funny is the left tried to pull this same thing on RFK JR. saying he was eating dogs in some exotic place.

Seriously did we all not witness the MSM smear Kennedy for allegedly eating dogs?

Thing is RFK smeared himself with the bear incident and saying his own brain was being eaten by worms. His daughter said he cut off the head of a whale. He's wreaked plenty of havoc on his own reputation. I won't say that he ate a dog but with the bear and whale incidents along with self-reported brain damage it's not much of a stretch.

[Dbrog]

I completely forgot to embed the video that I was referring to.


For someone like me, it's quite refreshing. You have the activist CNN people, who are expert at manipulating speech, lying by omitting, and twisting words, to make certain political figures look good, even if that political figure has stolen valor. It's the reason why they have their jobs. Going up against a person who straightens the actual meaning back, every single time, and in doing so making the host look like an idiot (while not being rude). That's very powerful. And like I've mentioned before, I've had people in real life, loud people, unable to speak and start destroying stuff. So I kind of understand that the host is probably seething.


So Trump points out migrant crime, which is a must to do, and you think that it's a win moment for Kamala because they 'clapped back' with he's a criminal? That's like Blade logic/thinking. (No, I'm not calling you mentally crippled, like Blade) They're going to brand Trump a criminal, through pure corruption that the vast majority of reasonable people see through, and you're just going to accept that as a good example due to the superficial optics of the moment?

So Kamala is going to smear and lie, lie, lie. Blatantly. But it's a win, due to the optics of the moment.

I just can't view things that way, because if someone is being so manipulative, not answering questions, not giving anything of substance, is depending on people being suckers, like Blade and Off the Court. Talking a big game about how they're going to change things that they can put a stop to right now (open borders). If they are full of shit, how am I going to think that that person won?

She looked fake and rehearsed, with nothing spontaneous, but I understand that people in the main are not going to see that, and are going to judge by the fake gotcha moments that the media amplify as a major win.

My point is that people are judging it in a superficial way, a performance, while deep down understanding, that Trump provided more substance and actually said things that will stick in their mind. Things that play better in clips.

You're going to have clips of Kamala saying that Trump is a felon. Ok, that's something that we have been seeing for months. Not new. But with Trump, what you have are clips of Trump talking about, say the open borders and the chaos that it's causing. Actual real things.

When the memories of the debate fade, what message are the people left with?

Yup completely what I was referring to in my other post...which is kinda funny that immediately after RRR3 calls me "dumb as a rock" and JD "retarded." Definition of a no power, fragile emotional response with no substance...typical of Democrat responses this election cycle. I know in debate, once you respond with personal attacks or positions of authority, you've already lost and that's a trap I really don't see Vance falling into despite the reporter reacting in these ways. He's just very composed and I agree it's impressive and powerful to watch. Ironically kind of reminds me of Obama in terms of speaking but sure...Demos can call JD "weird" since he's not on their side

I think you have a good point with what will stick out to people post-debate. I know what stuck with me is how easily Trump fell for the bate and let his ego lead, which does worry me for him moving forward and makes me wonder if he's as sharp as he was in his 2016 presidency (he CLEANED UP in debate settings).

It also sticks out to me, as you mentioned, the inconsistencies and disingenuous nature of Harris' actions and replies. Even with policy she talks about how she will spend LARGE sums of money and gift it to certain people (which ironically caused this inflation mess in the first place), but then won't speak on where this will come from. My worry is lesser thinkers or victim mentality people will see this and immediately latch on because they think it will make their lives better. They won't realize that it means they will have LESS money if they do get to a stable place in terms of taxes, property values (people think home price but not about how that affects property tax), and increased inflation over everyday items.

Idk I think how you feel coming out of this debate depends on how much faith you have in independents to think critically about issues. Me personally, I'm more of a pessimist so I think this + media continuing to show clear favoritism means Trump likely loses. I hope I'm wrong and people can see through the clear lies and look at their own lived experiences of what life was like between the two presidencies because it's...significant to say the least. I guess we'll see

[ZenMaster]

Are you stupid, or do you just do good impressions? We are talking about what is happening in the United States.

Are we supposed to believe that someones pet got stolen, killed and was about to be eaten and someone saw this but didn't take a picture or vid?

:facepalm

Honestly I don't care too much about the pet issue in the grander scheme of things and I've never made any claims about how much it's happened or how real it is. Actually, the only person I've seen on here describing the volume of the issue as being rampant and a cat eating pandemic is RMWG, though he might have been basing it on that one interview where a guy said a woman used to have around 50 cats near her house but now only has like 5.

It's just funny seeing dems of ISH going full red fking alert like this issue was a Hunter Biden laptop, maybe your heart rate goes up by one for every cat meme you see I dunno, but you're all over the place with one guy saying it couldn't happen because Haitians don't eat cats, you saying it's impossible because cats don't come close to people(lol) and someone else talking about how it doesn't matter because Americans eat meat too.

We can talk about the geese being taken instead, there's a police report on someone seeing that happen at a Springifield park and I posted a police call which confirmed this yesterday.
Or we can talk about the most important stuff: Americans being evicted from their apartments because landlords get 5x the rent from the govt to house Haitians instead. We can also talk about Haitians causing havoc and killing people due to unchecked crazy driving because the govt wants to make it as easy as possible for them to get drivers licenses, I think those things are much more serious and affecting more people.

[Real Men Wear Green]

JD Vance isn't stupid, he's just full of shit. Even a smart person can have a hard time when they are trying to say things they don't truly believe in all of the time and are frequently answering questions off the cuff.

[RRR3]

JD Vance isn't stupid, he's just full of shit. Even a smart person can have a hard time when they are trying to say things they don't truly believe in all of the time and are frequently answering questions off the cuff.
ZenMaster is stupid AND full of shit, though.

[Norcaliblunt]

Thing is RFK smeared himself with the bear incident and saying his own brain was being eaten by worms. His daughter said he cut off the head of a whale. He's wreaked plenty of havoc on his own reputation. I won't say that he ate a dog but with the bear and whale incidents along with self-reported brain damage it's not much of a stretch.

I’m just saying left wing media used the same exact tactic with the RFK dog story. Which is dig into every American’s primal disgust of eating pets and using it for sensational political purposes without any definitive proof. It even had the foreign aspect too. He did it in the jungle.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I’m just saying left wing media used the same exact tactic with the RFK dog story. Which is dig into every American’s primal disgust of eating pets and using it for sensational political purposes without any definitive proof. It even had the foreign aspect too. He did it in the jungle.
I suppose that's true.

[Bill Gates]

Not only does Kamala have the momentum now. But on Monday the Fed is expected to announce the lowering of interest rates. Which will in turn send an already high stock market to brand new highs. Jobs report just came in fresh. Mortgage rates were just lowered 6.2% on a 30 year, down from 7.2% a year ago.

And the big one, the inflation rate just fell to 2.5%, we are officially at pre-covid inflation and the soft landing happened.

We two more months of a soaring economy for the population to absorb which will feel like a lifetime to voters.

[Hey Yo]

ZenMaster is stupid AND full of shit, though.

You're allegedly not for either side so why give a fukk what either side has to say? Why should we care about what you think of someone's political opinions that don't involve you and your stance?

[RRR3]

You're allegedly not for either side so why give a fukk what either side has to say? Why should we care about what you think of someone's political opinions that don't involve you and your stance?
Yeah, I'm not sure how you think being against racism is picking sides in the election. Are you admitting you think racism is a partisan issue?

[Hey Yo]

Zens last post had nothing to do with racism.

[RRR3]

Zens last post had nothing to do with racism.
https://i.imgflip.com/93eqfc.jpg

[tontoz]

Not only does Kamala have the momentum now. But on Monday the Fed is expected to announce the lowering of interest rates. Which will in turn send an already high stock market to brand new highs. Jobs report just came in fresh. Mortgage rates were just lowered 6.2% on a 30 year, down from 7.2% a year ago.

And the big one, the inflation rate just fell to 2.5%, we are officially at pre-covid inflation and the soft landing happened.

We two more months of a soaring economy for the population to absorb which will feel like a lifetime to voters.


History would say otherwise. The market historically has gone down after the Fed starts lowering rates after a raising cycle.

The end of the year is generally bullish though.

[ZenMaster]

ZenMaster is stupid AND full of shit, though.

The lazy library clerk drug dealer calling others stupid is ironic.

[RRR3]

The lazy library clerk drug dealer calling others stupid is ironic.
So wait a person with two jobs is lazy? That's what you're going with? And yeah, you're stupid, you've been getting your ass handed to you by Tontoz for pages now. You're too stupid to realize he's beating you, too.

[Hey Yo]

LOL @ needing 2 jobs. Maybe you should go to Springfield and work 14hrs under 1 roof. You'd have to wear a giant hair net though so it wouldn't get caught in the machinery.

[RRR3]

LOL @ needing 2 jobs. Maybe you should go to Springfield and work 14hrs under 1 roof. You'd have to wear a giant hair net though so it wouldn't get caught in the machinery.
We can't all be billionaires like you.

[ZenMaster]

So wait a person with two jobs is lazy? That's what you're going with? And yeah, you're stupid, you've been getting your ass handed to you by Tontoz for pages now. You're too stupid to realize he's beating you, too.

Lol yeah not wanting to be a library clerk no more and trying to get out of it by being an end of chain drug dealer, without any knowledge of weed and only selling a few dime bags to locals in your local area, is what I'd consider lazy as hell.

[Bill Gates]

History would say otherwise. The market historically has gone down after the Fed starts lowering rates after a raising cycle.

The end of the year is generally bullish though.
That is because rate lowering is typically synonymous with recession. It's done to spark borrowing and stimulate the economy.

Currently every time Powell even hints at lowering rates it sends the stock market flying. And every time he says "not yet" the stock market jolts down in the red.



All that said, perhaps the market has now already priced in a .25% drop. But if Powell says they are lowering .50% ? Watch out.

[Jasper]

after trump won the debate - he got OPEC to drop prices , and we are now buying it for $2.86.

Well done sucker upper ..

[Real Men Wear Green]

Open challenge to Trump for a rematch. (https://share.newsbreak.com/8vc9bfaq)

He should only do it if he's going to (can?) prepare seriously. If he's just going to get fussed at for another two hours and then complain about the moderators he may as well not bother.

[diamenz]

Open challenge to Trump for a rematch. (https://share.newsbreak.com/8vc9bfaq)

He should only do it if he's going to (can?) prepare seriously. If he's just going to get fussed at for another two hours and then complain about the moderators he may as well not bother.

it should be on fox. not because they'll go easy on trump, but for the simple fact that the last one was on a liberal network. it's only fair, isn't it?

[Off the Court]

It's a very well played move by Kamala, get that debate jolt right before election.

If he declines he's a coward. If he accepts she will bait him to death and it will be a repeat of the last debate.

She can harp on what the abortion ban is doing to women knowing that vast majority of women are pro-choice.

[Real Men Wear Green]

it should be on fox. not because they'll go easy on trump, but for the simple fact that the last one was on a liberal network. it's only fair, isn't it?

That's false equivalency. FOX had to give Dominion voting systems 787 million dollars as a settlement for their role in promoting Trump's election lies. They aren't just biased they are deceitful.

The one positive to Harris doing a debate moderated by FOX would be that if she won the excuses made last time would go out the window. But the people making those excuses are never going to give Harris credit or admit Trump's flaws no matter what happens so what's the point? Harris won last time and seems to have a little lead right now. She shouldn't subject herself to that kind of adversity unless her campaign has inside info where they're sure that Trump's mental issues are on par with Biden's. I would expect FOX moderators to go after her economic campaign promises (really not plans) in a way that Trump would be doing if he could be bothered to prepare. It would be a better discourse for the american people if she was challenged on these subjects but of course Trump is no better in this regard as he also says random crap that he'll do that makes no sense in regards to the economy (he doesn't seem to know how tariffs work and has a history of huge spending while slashing taxes to create massive deficits). The moderators would point out her crap but leave attacking Trump's crap to her. She is much better at retaining info so I think she could do it but for her the CNN moderators are clearly much better so why take the chance that one of the moderators makes her stumble? You don't give"fair" consideration to the guy that tried to steal the election the last time he lost and will try to steal it again this time if he loses as well.

[diamenz]

That's false equivalency. FOX had to give Dominion voting systems 787 million dollars as a settlement for their role in promoting Trump's election lies. They aren't just biased they are deceitful.

The one positive to Harris doing a debate moderated by FOX would be that if she won the excuses made last time would go out the window. But the people making those excuses are never going to give Harris credit or admit Trump's flaws no matter what happens so what's the point? Harris won last time and seems to have a little lead right now. She shouldn't subject herself to that kind of adversity unless her campaign has inside info where they're sure that Trump's mental issues are on par with Biden's. I would expect FOX moderators to go after her economic campaign promises (really not plans) in a way that Trump would be doing if he could be bothered to prepare. It would be a better discourse for the american people if she was challenged on these subjects but of course Trump is no better in this regard as he also says random crap that he'll do that makes no sense in regards to the economy (he doesn't seem to know how tariffs work and has a history of huge spending while slashing taxes to create massive deficits). The moderators would point out her crap but leave attacking Trump's crap to her. She is much better at retaining info so I think she could do it but for her the CNN moderators are clearly much better so why take the chance that one of the moderators makes her stumble? You don't give"fair" consideration to the guy that tried to steal the election the last time he lost and will try to steal it again this time if he loses as well.

sounds to me like you're just fishing for excuses. anyway you look at the issue, the fake electors scheme has nothing to do with what undecided voters are looking for going into november. at least a differently-biased network would offer a fresh perspective on topics, plus topics that the liberal networks wouldn't care to bring up.


Fox - They aren't just biased they are deceitful.

oh and msnbc and cnn isn't? what about the whole russia thing? gimme a break.

[ILLsmak]

Open challenge to Trump for a rematch. (https://share.newsbreak.com/8vc9bfaq)

He should only do it if he's going to (can?) prepare seriously. If he's just going to get fussed at for another two hours and then complain about the moderators he may as well not bother.

I don’t think he should do it, and that’s a long way away, almost like she knows he won’t and just wants to call him a coward. The more people digest the last debate (and i watched it twice, mostly heh) they realize after the immediate negative reaction to trump, she didn’t do much of anything.

I don’t even think he should do it on fox unless it’s soon, and maybe not even then. I don’t see any advantage. A town hall, maybe? Is it a town hall? That is slightly more interesting.

-Smak

[diamenz]

I don’t think he should do it, and that’s a long way away, almost like she knows he won’t and just wants to call him a coward. The more people digest the last debate (and i watched it twice, mostly heh) they realize after the immediate negative reaction to trump, she didn’t do much of anything.

I don’t even think he should do it on fox unless it’s soon, and maybe not even then. I don’t see any advantage. A town hall, maybe? Is it a town hall? That is slightly more interesting.

-Smak

i'd be more in favor of town halls than a debate. both candidates go on their rival networks for a three hour town hall focused on policy for the next four years. no discussion of the past. give voters their best chance at making an informed decision which way they want to take the country.

of course this would never happen because debates sell more tickets.

[Lakers Legend#32]

I get the feeling that Trump's ego would not let him pass up a debate with a potential 60 million viewers.

Of course he would embarrass himself all over again.

[Real Men Wear Green]

sounds to me like you're just fishing for excuses. anyway you look at the issue, the fake electors scheme has nothing to do with what undecided voters are looking for going into november. at least a differently-biased network would offer a fresh perspective on topics, plus topics that the liberal networks wouldn't care to bring up.Excuses for what?

FOX participating in the fake electors scheme is a massive reason not to trust them for the Harris campaign. They blatantly lied to their own audience to try and get her opppppponent the office they both currently seek. You don't see how that could.be aproblem for r Harris?




oh and msnbc and cnn isn't? what about the whole russia thing? gimme a break.Please show me where MSNBC or CNN had to pay out a billion dollars over lies related to Russia. Honestly not sure what you're talking about here.

[diamenz]

Excuses for what?

FOX participating in the fake electors scheme is a massive reason not to trust them for the Harris campaign. They blatantly lied to their own audience to try and get her opppppponent the office they both currently seek. You don't see how that could.be aproblem for r Harris?



Please show me where MSNBC or CNN had to pay out a billion dollars over lies related to Russia. Honestly not sure what you're talking about here.

so what you're telling me is that cnn & msnbc can't be classified as deceitful because they haven't been faced with a legal battle in the same vein that fox has?

bro this isn't about you and your grievances with trump. it's about giving undecided voters a better chance at making an informed decision. fox wants to put harris on the spot moreso than trump? they want to try and lie or be deceitful? then so be it. if she's up for the task of president, she should be able to handle, swallow and spit them out (if she so chooses to spit - i'm pro-choice afterall).

[ILLsmak]

i'd be more in favor of town halls than a debate. both candidates go on their rival networks for a three hour town hall focused on policy for the next four years. no discussion of the past. give voters their best chance at making an informed decision which way they want to take the country.

of course this would never happen because debates sell more tickets.

That and Trump would crush it. Without j6 etc every time, covid, etc etc, if they just gave their plans at a town hall no matter what network, it would give the election to Trump.

People laugh about concepts of a plan, but America likes his policy at more than a majority. It’s just the whole Trump is eeevil and gonna take over shit that swings it to even be close. If people saw it laid out vision v vision it’d be over.

-Smak

[Real Men Wear Green]

so what you're telling me is that cnn & msnbc can't be classified as deceitful because they haven't been faced with a legal battle in the same vein that fox has?

bro this isn't about you and your grievances with trump. it's about giving undecided voters a better chance at making an informed decision. fox wants to put harris on the spot moreso than trump? they want to try and lie or be deceitful? then so be it. if she's up for the task of president, she should be able to handle, swallow and spit them out (if she so chooses to spit - i'm pro-choice afterall)."Bro" you aren't understanding me. I am analyzing the question of whether or not Harris should do a debate on FOX from the perspective of whether or not it's good for her campaign. Which is the only question that matters from the perspective of her campaign. If her goal was to give voters a much information as possible or she sits down with some trusted news anchor with no known agenda and tells them to ask her every question they can think of. Guess what? That's not the goal... not just for her but for every campaign that has ever existed in the history of politics. They all exist to win the office for their candidate. So if the(obvious) analysis is that a debate on CNN is much better for them than one on FOX then that's what they should do.

The idealism is a bit funny. They don't owe the guy that tried to and will try again to steal the election anything. Giving a fair shake by going to a debate on GOX would be like entering a boxing match where you tie one hand behind your own back.

[Patrick Chewing]

"Bro" you aren't understanding me. I am analyzing the question of whether or not Harris should do a debate on FOX from the perspective of whether or not it's good for her campaign. Which is the only question that matters from the perspective of her campaign. If her goal was to give voters a much information as possible or she sits down with some trusted news anchor with no known agenda and tells them to ask her every question they can think of. Guess what? That's not the goal... not just for her but for every campaign that has ever existed in the history of politics. They all exist to win the office for their candidate. So if the(obvious) analysis is that a debate on CNN is much better for them than one on FOX then that's what they should do.

The idealism is a bit funny. They don't owe the guy that tried to and will try again to steal the election anything. Giving a fair shake by going to a debate on GOX would be like entering a boxing match where you tie one hand behind your own back.

Just as long as you understand that it also looks bad for her to not go on Fox while Trump is in the trenches taking grenades from every other network. The voter sees that too.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Just as long as you understand that it also looks bad for her to not go on Fox while Trump is in the trenches taking grenades from every other network. The voter sees that too.

The MAGA voter "sees" that. She's not getting your vote no matter what she does so it doesn't matter. The Harris campaign is banking on most voters seeing Trump scared of taking another ass-kicking. And they're likely right.

[Patrick Chewing]

The MAGA voter "sees" that. She's not getting your vote no matter what she does so it doesn't matter. The Harris campaign is banking on most voters seeing Trump scared of taking another ass-kicking. And they're likely right.

It isn't the MAGA voter that just sees that. It's the Independent voter as well, or the Democrat voter who is on the fence. Of course it matters. :oldlol:

[Real Men Wear Green]

It isn't the MAGA voter that just sees that. It's the Independent voter as well, or the Democrat voter who is on the fence. Of course it matters. :oldlol:
I'm sure that you disregard any poll you don't like but they indicate her strategy is working.

[Patrick Chewing]

I'm sure that you disregard any poll you don't like but they indicate her strategy is working.

Polls had Hillary winning too.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Polls had Hillary winning too.

And Obama winning twice. And Biden winning. And I could go on. Likely a lot longer than you could.

[Off the Court]

Polls had Hillary winning too.

She did win the popular vote.

[Lakers Legend#32]

She did win the popular vote.

She won it by 3 million votes.

Trump has never won the popular vote.

[Patrick Chewing]

And Obama winning twice. And Biden winning. And I could go on. Likely a lot longer than you could.

Ahhh so you trust those polls, but you didn't trust the polls when Trump beat Hillary. Got it.

[Patrick Chewing]

She did win the popular vote.

And then lost the election.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Ahhh so you trust those polls, but you didn't trust the polls when Trump beat Hillary. Got it.

I don't know where you got that conclusion from but I don't expect you to make sense.

[Hey Yo]

No need for Trump to do a 3rd debate. He's been quite clear to all, as to what his plans are.

[Lakers Legend#32]

And then lost the election.

And Trump presidency had zero credibility because he did not win the popular vote.

[ZenMaster]

Per national polls the dumb witch has lost 25% of her lead in the last month and Trump's doing well with independent voters. He's offered her to debate on Fox and there's absolutely no reason to go do another debate where mods and the network work with the Kamala campaign to make her shit shine, the same networks who targeted millions of mentally weak people and convinced them Trump was a Russian spy.

[bladefd]

Per national polls the dumb witch has lost 25% of her lead in the last month and Trump's doing well with independent voters. He's offered her to debate on Fox and there's absolutely no reason to go do another debate where mods and the network work with the Kamala campaign to make her shit shine, the same networks who targeted millions of mentally weak people and convinced them Trump was a Russian spy.

Must make you excited getting zoned in on the US election from over in Eastern Europe as a non-American voter

[TheMan]

Per national polls the dumb witch has lost 25% of her lead in the last month and Trump's doing well with independent voters. He's offered her to debate on Fox and there's absolutely no reason to go do another debate where mods and the network work with the Kamala campaign to make her shit shine, the same networks who targeted millions of mentally weak people and convinced them Trump was a Russian spy.

Huh, which polls? The average of polls are better for her now than at any point in this race, just go and check out 538, RCP or the Silver Bulletin. Even the betting odds websites have her a slight favorite rn, they had Trump as favorite pre debate...

The debate really changed this race, he was the slight favorite before, she's now the slight favorite since. The way I see it, Trump has over performed in 2016 and 2020, are polls still using the same models or have they made the adjustments and are now weighing that Trump over performs the polls? We shall see on Nov 5... On the flip side, 2022 the Democrats over performed, due in large part because of the effects of Roe v Wade being struck down and that Red Wave never materialized. If women voters turn out in big numbers (Harris has a huge lead with women vs Trump), then that spells bad news for MAGA. If Trump loses, it will be definitely be because of the women vote.

Grab your popcorn, fellas.

[ILLsmak]

Huh, which polls? The average of polls are better for her now than at any point in this race, just go and check out 538, RCP or the Silver Bulletin. Even the betting odds websites have her a slight favorite rn, they had Trump as favorite pre debate...

The debate really changed this race, he was the slight favorite before, she's now the slight favorite since. The way I see it, Trump has over performed in 2016 and 2020, are polls still using the same models or have they made the adjustments and are now weighing that Trump over performs the polls? We shall see on Nov 5... On the flip side, 2022 the Democrats over performed, due in large part because of the effects of Roe v Wade being struck down and that Red Wave never materialized. If women voters turn out in big numbers (Harris has a huge lead with women vs Trump), then that spells bad news for MAGA. If Trump loses, it will be definitely be because of the women vote.

Grab your popcorn, fellas.

Another interesting thing is Trump seemed to poll under 45% in 16 and 20 and that has risen a bit. There are polls with him at 48 and her at 52. It’s like hmm.

-Smak

[TheMan]

Another interesting thing is Trump seemed to poll under 45% in 16 and 20 and that has risen a bit. There are polls with him at 48 and her at 52. It’s like hmm.

-Smak

Yeah but the average of polls do have him still stuck nationally at around the 45%-46% mark while she's around 48%-49%. Trump has yet to surpass the 47% mark in his previous 2 presidential elections. Trump needs to get to 48% because if she wins the national vote by 3 or more points, the spillover effect will also influence the swing states. Harris has the slight edge right now, but there's a gang of variables that can swing the election to either side (Trump's previous over performing the polls, Harris big lead with women). If there's a big turnout, that's usually not a good sign for the GOP because that means most people who don't vote, minorities, young people, new voters are voting, the lower turn out historically favored the GOP because older white people always vote...

[Patrick Chewing]

Michigan, Georgia, and Pennsylvania will be flips for Trump which would give him 278 electoral votes and the win. And for good measure, I think he'll flip Arizona too. Which will get him to 289. She is not polling anywhere near where Biden was polling in 2020. She is closer to Hillary in 2016 who finished with 48% of the vote and only had 227 electoral votes.

[ZenMaster]

Huh, which polls? The average of polls are better for her now than at any point in this race, just go and check out 538, RCP or the Silver Bulletin. Even the betting odds websites have her a slight favorite rn, they had Trump as favorite pre debate...

The debate really changed this race, he was the slight favorite before, she's now the slight favorite since. The way I see it, Trump has over performed in 2016 and 2020, are polls still using the same models or have they made the adjustments and are now weighing that Trump over performs the polls? We shall see on Nov 5... On the flip side, 2022 the Democrats over performed, due in large part because of the effects of Roe v Wade being struck down and that Red Wave never materialized. If women voters turn out in big numbers (Harris has a huge lead with women vs Trump), then that spells bad news for MAGA. If Trump loses, it will be definitely be because of the women vote.

Grab your popcorn, fellas.

Before the debate changed the race, it was the energy around her campaign as a new candidate which changed the race. 538 national poll average (https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/) had her at +3.7 on the 23rd of August, yesterday they had her at +2.7.

Don't care much about the polls though, a miracle is needed for Kamala not to be the next President. There's simply too much at stake for the powers that be and Trump won't be allowed into office one way or the other. He's been dehumanized to the point where half the country joke about it whenever someone tries to kill him, so the establishment can do as they want and get away with it.

[TheMan]

Before the debate changed the race, it was the energy around her campaign as a new candidate which changed the race. 538 national poll average (https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/) had her at +3.7 on the 23rd of August, yesterday they had her at +2.7.

Don't care much about the polls though, a miracle is needed for Kamala not to be the next President. There's simply too much at stake for the powers that be and Trump won't be allowed into office one way or the other. He's been dehumanized to the point where half the country joke about it whenever someone tries to kill him, so the establishment can do as they want and get away with it.
Ah ok, I missed that one, wasn't really paying that much attention to the polls yet at that point...

Yep, crazy how a former president almost got his head blown off but like no one talks about it anymore and it seems like it happened a long time ago.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Ah ok, I missed that one, wasn't really paying that much attention to the polls yet at that point...

Yep, crazy how a former president almost got his head blown off but like no one talks about it anymore and it seems like it happened a long time ago.

It's because he's so polarizing. Very much about the things he's said that have offended several different groups of people. He's just not a sympathetic figure. Mainstream elected politicians will pretend to care they're all being fake. Harris and Biden feign concern because they don't want to create a talking point but almost no one on the left will care if Jack Smith gets him locked up for the rest of his natural life and to a lot of people that's worse than getting shot. Meanwhile Republicans in power are smart enough to know that he's actually been a massive problem for their party and wish him to go away but their base loves him so they're forced to show support. But we all know that Lindsay Gresham of 2015 and Lindsay Graham of 2016 would be having a furiously angry debate over the subject. Trump does get real love from his MAGA base but no one else has any sympathy.

[Off the Court]

Trump does get real love from his MAGA base but no one else has any sympathy.

I don't even think that the majority of his following care about him, a lot of them are incels who are just in it to "own libs".

The ones who actually care about Trump? Who think Jesus sent him here? Those are eldery backwoods rural folk in the deep south.

[ILLsmak]

Yeah but the average of polls do have him still stuck nationally at around the 45%-46% mark while she's around 48%-49%. Trump has yet to surpass the 47% mark in his previous 2 presidential elections. Trump needs to get to 48% because if she wins the national vote by 3 or more points, the spillover effect will also influence the swing states. Harris has the slight edge right now, but there's a gang of variables that can swing the election to either side (Trump's previous over performing the polls, Harris big lead with women). If there's a big turnout, that's usually not a good sign for the GOP because that means most people who don't vote, minorities, young people, new voters are voting, the lower turn out historically favored the GOP because older white people always vote...

Hes over 47 now daz wat im sayin. That’s interesting.

-Smak

[Hey Yo]

If Harris' camp really thought she was doing well, they wouldn't be pressing for another debate.

[Patrick Chewing]

I don't even think that the majority of his following care about him, a lot of them are incels who are just in it to "own libs".

The ones who actually care about Trump? Who think Jesus sent him here? Those are eldery backwoods rural folk in the deep south.

Let's be real, if you're an incel in this country, you're most likely simping for the Left. Nice try, pal.

[Hey Yo]

Huh, which polls? The average of polls are better for her now than at any point in this race, just go and check out 538, RCP or the Silver Bulletin. Even the betting odds websites have her a slight favorite rn, they had Trump as favorite pre debate...

The debate really changed this race, he was the slight favorite before, she's now the slight favorite since. The way I see it, Trump has over performed in 2016 and 2020, are polls still using the same models or have they made the adjustments and are now weighing that Trump over performs the polls? We shall see on Nov 5... On the flip side, 2022 the Democrats over performed, due in large part because of the effects of Roe v Wade being struck down and that Red Wave never materialized. If women voters turn out in big numbers (Harris has a huge lead with women vs Trump), then that spells bad news for MAGA. If Trump loses, it will be definitely be because of the women vote.

Grab your popcorn, fellas.

CNN reporting that it's currently tied

https://x.com/ClayTravis/status/1838624512520126669?t=MBnHgy-OODEdQ94JthzXGQ&s=19

[TheMan]

Let's be real, if you're an incel in this country, you're most likely simping for the Left. Nice try, pal.

Incels come in all different shapes, sizes and political ideologues but most of the ones I've read about are incels who are alt-right hardcore Trumpers who hate women, that's the classic incel. The left produces those weird blue haired Antifas who also can't get puzzy but they tend to put women on a pedestal.

[TheMan]

CNN reporting that it's currently tied

https://x.com/ClayTravis/status/1838624512520126669?t=MBnHgy-OODEdQ94JthzXGQ&s=19

Interesting but I've seen enough videos about polling that you really can't take one poll as be all, end all but the aggregate of polls are more accurate than taking one poll at face value.

It's close, no doubt about it, gonna come down to whose operation can get more of their voters to vote.

[Lakers Legend#32]

Michigan, Georgia, and Pennsylvania will be flips for Trump which would give him 278 electoral votes and the win. And for good measure, I think he'll flip Arizona too. Which will get him to 289. She is not polling anywhere near where Biden was polling in 2020. She is closer to Hillary in 2016 who finished with 48% of the vote and only had 227 electoral votes.

Sorry Fat Boy.

Love will conquer hate this election.

[Patrick Chewing]

MUSLIM DEMOCRAT MAYOR ENDORSES TRUMP (https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/wayne-county/2024/09/23/muslim-mayor-of-hamtramck-amer-ghalib-endorses-trump-wants-gaza-cease-fire/75346344007/
)



https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/09/460486915_8628294607204985_9117230258877689744_n-1727054842.jpg


https://media.tenor.com/kZrd0Zxo1zIAAAAM/trump-dance-ymca.gif

[Hey Yo]

Interesting but I've seen enough videos about polling that you really can't take one poll as be all, end all but the aggregate of polls are more accurate than taking one poll at face value.

It's close, no doubt about it, gonna come down to whose operation can get more of their voters to vote.

I get where you're coming from... just thought I'd post a poll that CNN put up cause obviously they have no reason to be bias against Harris.

Here's another one from Quinnipiac showing Trump ahead.
https://x.com/ClayTravis/status/1838642021902197142?t=mA8Bpe1YExcZAaxWgXhUIg&s=19

[Off the Court]

I get where you're coming from... just thought I'd post a poll that CNN put up cause obviously they have no reason to be bias against Harris.

Here's another one from Quinnipiac showing Trump ahead.
https://x.com/ClayTravis/status/1838642021902197142?t=mA8Bpe1YExcZAaxWgXhUIg&s=19

https://x.com/IAPolls2022/status/1838658492174913556

What about that one that same account just threw out an hour ago?


That is why you have to look at the average of all of them:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/


But really even that is meaningless, you have to look at the swing states which are a virtual tie right now.

Nate Silver has Harris ahead by a hair, and Allan Lichtman who is famous for predicting elections has also officially predicted Harris.

I wouldn't be surprised either way, I'm just pointing out the same thing TheMan is saying, one poll by itself doesn't mean much.

[Hey Yo]

The first post I quoted from TheMan was because he made it sound as if things were looking great for Harris since the debate, but it doesn't really. It was a very minor push if anything.

[Real Men Wear Green]

https://media.tenor.com/kZrd0Zxo1zIAAAAM/trump-dance-ymca.gif Didn't notice it before but Trump appears to be a bit of an airdicker.

[ArbitraryWater]

I don't even think that the majority of his following care about him, a lot of them are incels who are just in it to "own libs".

The ones who actually care about Trump? Who think Jesus sent him here? Those are eldery backwoods rural folk in the deep south.

You genuinely believe there are more "incels" in MAGA than on the left? :D

[ArbitraryWater]

Didn't notice it before but Trump appears to be a bit of an airdicker.


Trump has this guy COOKED i tell you

[RRR3]

You genuinely believe there are more "incels" in MAGA than on the left? :D
Most women who aren't senior citizens are liberal or further left so yeah?

[ArbitraryWater]

Most women who aren't senior citizens are liberal or further left so yeah?

This concerns men, what are you talking about?

You are a good example btw.

1 incel for the left to 0 for the right.


lets keep the ISH count.

[RRR3]

This concerns men, what are you talking about?

You are a good example btw.

1 incel for the left to 0 for the right.


lets keep the ISH count.
I've had sex. You haven't.

https://flux.community/matthew-sheffield/2023/09/republicans-cant-get-a-date-or-a-clue-as-to-why/


Yall cant get dates :roll:

[Off the Court]

Most women who aren't senior citizens are liberal or further left so yeah?

https://x.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1838606720165188041

Confirmed

And with females isolated it is much worse than that even.

[RRR3]

https://x.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1838606720165188041

Confirmed

And with females isolated it is much worse than that even.
Yeah idk why these idiots try arguing that. It's MUCH easier to date if you're not conservative. It's not even close.

[Off the Court]

Tim Pool says he can't get a date and he's f@#king rich and famous.

He's a famous MAGA incel who blames feminism for the reason he can't hook up.

That is the incel mantra "I blame feminism".

[RRR3]

Tim Pool says he can't get a date and he's f@#king rich and famous.

He's a famous MAGA incel who blames feminism for the reason he can't hook up.

That is the incel mantra "I blame feminism".
Pretty normal looking guy too, he could get a date if he wasn't such a weirdo politically I imagine. Abortion is a pretty huge issue for women, but L'il Arby doesn't know that because he doesn't talk to women.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Didn't notice it before but Trump appears to be a bit of an airdicker.

No one saw Ricky Stanicky. A bit disappointing.

[DJMcDonald]

You genuinely believe there are more "incels" in MAGA than on the left? :D

This isn't even debatable lmao, incels have always been Nick Fuentes type, far right losers:hammerhead:

[AKA_AAP]

It's hilarious reading from the sidelines two low income and low SMV incels, FascistRRR3 and LowIQotc, discuss dating and what left leaning women want. Have you seen their non-existent dating life? :lol

[RRR3]

It's hilarious reading from the sidelines two low income and low SMV incels, FascistRRR3 and LowIQotc, discuss dating and what left leaning women want. Have you seen their non-existent dating life? :lol
No one thinks who's read one of your posts thinks you've ever seriously talked to a woman.

[AKA_AAP]

No one thinks who's read one of your posts thinks you've ever seriously talked to a woman.

Have you seen yourself in the mirror? You have a FAT face with messy hair, zero good features, and you can't afford to live an average lifestyle. You have low income, you can't take care of yourself never mind a woman. AND you have a communist mind-set as an adult male, which makes you a bitch. You're a librarian. Your SMV is bottom-tier.

[RRR3]

AKA_AAP if he ever managed to get a date:

Girl: so tell me about yourself
AKA_AAP: Today I OWNED ObeseAxe, CopyPasteLegend32, LowIQoffTheCourt, FascistRRR3, RacistJasper, AlwaysWrongBladefd, and DemBotJohn8204 on Insidehoops yet again! They are WOKE COMMUNIST LOSERS!!!!
Girl: *leaves*

[TheMan]

I never said all male Trump supporters are incels, of course not but isn't the incel community, as far as I know from reading Reddit, mostly comprised of young white males whom are into Andrew Tate, conspiracies, alt right, misogynistic, hate feminists and blame women for their lack of a sex life? Where am I wrong? The far left Antifa types are what makes up a big chunk of the cancel culture social justice warrior weirdos who are easily offended and who believe there are 852 different genders and are feminists themselves, no? They're surrounded by dykes and get no play from straight women because they get friend zoned immediately for their beta attitudes :lol I thought this was pretty much common knowledge haha

[Off the Court]

AKA_AAP if he ever managed to get a date:

Girl: so tell me about yourself
AKA_AAP: Today I OWNED ObeseAxe, CopyPasteLegend32, LowIQoffTheCourt, FascistRRR3, RacistJasper, AlwaysWrongBladefd, and DemBotJohn8204 on Insidehoops yet again! They are WOKE COMMUNIST LOSERS!!!!
Girl: *leaves*

:oldlol:

[AKA_AAP]

AKA_AAP if he ever managed to get a date:

Girl: so tell me about yourself
AKA_AAP: Today I OWNED ObeseAxe, CopyPasteLegend32, LowIQoffTheCourt, FascistRRR3, RacistJasper, AlwaysWrongBladefd, and DemBotJohn8204 on Insidehoops yet again! They are WOKE COMMUNIST LOSERS!!!!
Girl: *leaves*

Here's the funny thing. I can actually say something stupid like that, and have them soon asking me when they can see me again or imply us doing some sort of activity for a second date. When a man's SMV is as high as AKA_AAP, he can say just about anything and get away with it. :pimp:

[Real Cavs Fan]

RRR3 dates transexuals and Off the Court is literally gay.

They are the least qualified two to speak on this issue.

[RRR3]

RRR3 dates transexuals and Off the Court is literally gay.

They are the least qualified two to speak on this issue.
Jesus Christ how many alts do you have warriorfan :roll: 20?

[bladefd]

https://x.com/IAPolls2022/status/1838658492174913556

What about that one that same account just threw out an hour ago?


That is why you have to look at the average of all of them:
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/


But really even that is meaningless, you have to look at the swing states which are a virtual tie right now.

Nate Silver has Harris ahead by a hair, and Allan Lichtman who is famous for predicting elections has also officially predicted Harris.

I wouldn't be surprised either way, I'm just pointing out the same thing TheMan is saying, one poll by itself doesn't mean much.

He has been right like every election going back to 1980. Only been wrong once in 2000, which came down to Florida where Bush's brother was governor. Wasn't the supreme court conservative too, and they decided it?

[Real Cavs Fan]

Jesus Christ how many alts do you have warriorfan :roll: 20?

Full disclosure. I am warriorfan. I made this account awhile ago when I caught a ban and was gonna do a lil bit of trolling but never found the time to make it work. After the warriors domination in the subsequent years it made the whole thing feel unnecessary and asinine.


But if you want to embarrass yourself. Which alt accounts have you convinced yourself are mine? I know you have the habit on acting in emotion, if you are upset at me and another unknown account comes at you, you automatically assume it’s me because that is what’s the most emotionally convenient option for you at the time.

But seriously. Here’s your shot. Expose me. List them.

[Chick Stern]

https://media.tenor.com/kZrd0Zxo1zIAAAAM/trump-dance-ymca.gif


Didn't notice it before but Trump appears to be a bit of an airdicker.

Double fisted dickin


Q: What is Trump’s favorite Chinese food?

[ArbitraryWater]

I've had sex. You haven't.

https://flux.community/matthew-sheffield/2023/09/republicans-cant-get-a-date-or-a-clue-as-to-why/


Yall cant get dates :roll:


extremely weird article/study.

It says "upon discovering found a red flag", nothing specific about sex, or even dating.

Most hookups arent created by having a political talk beforehand. Youd know this if you ever had sex.

There are apps like feeld where you hook up super easy/quick, there isnt some deep examination before. All of the sloots there are liberals or "free spirits".


Plus, the study says "MAGA republicans", the ****? Hahaha


If I wanted to, I could have a date every day just off of pickup. Its way too exhausting though. Opening yourself up, starting convos, having to be at your best, is something I dont wanna do more than once a week if at all.

[Jasper]

extremely weird article/study.

It says "upon discovering found a red flag", nothing specific about sex, or even dating.

Most hookups arent created by having a political talk beforehand. Youd know this if you ever had sex.

There are apps like feeld where you hook up super easy/quick, there isnt some deep examination before. All of the sloots there are liberals or "free spirits".


Plus, the study says "MAGA republicans", the ****? Hahaha


If I wanted to, I could have a date every day just off of pickup. Its way too exhausting though. Opening yourself up, starting convos, having to be at your best, is something I dont wanna do more than once a week if at all.

lazy bum

[Real Men Wear Green]

Fake news. (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/billionaire-bill-ackman-admits-debate-conspiracy-he-pushed-is-fake/ar-AA1srHHe)

Is a month the standard wait time for the bs right wing conspiracy theories to get debunked?