Why is it so hard for Trump to respect the Troops?

[John8204]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KZsW0fLu70


https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/unfairly-attacked-army-defends-arlington-national-cemetery-employee/story?id=113244596


The Arlington National Cemetery staffer who tried to stop the Trump campaign from filming a video among the graves of recently fallen service members has declined to press charges, according to a statement released Thursday by the Army that said the "employee and her professionalism was unfairly attacked."

The updated statement also defended the actions of the employee, who the military has opted not to name publicly due to privacy and safety concerns.

"This employee acted with professionalism and avoided further disruption," according to the statement.

The Army said the incident was reported to Joint Base Myer-Henderson Hall in Virginia, which has jurisdiction over the cemetery, "but the employee subsequently decided not to press charges. Therefore, the Army considers this matter closed."

"This incident was unfortunate, and it is also unfortunate that the ANC employee and her professionalism has been unfairly attacked," the Army continued. "ANC is a national shrine to the honored dead of the Armed Forces, and its dedicated staff will continue to ensure public ceremonies are conducted with the dignity and respect the nation's fallen deserve.


Funny no thread on Trump's desecration of the graves at Arlington. Aside from the fact that your shouldn't use the deaths of troops for a photo op...how do you shove a female worker again. What is up with this clown show of a campaign.

[highwhey]

There's a lot to dislike about this coward of a human being. He is a dishonorable human being that goes against most fundamental principles of the right. Yet we have idiots like patrickchewing that follow him blindly and do not hold him accountable for any of his faults. It's actually quite sad to see so many souls hang their hopes in his hands, they want to belong to something so badly that they are willing to overlook their own integrity and morals just to 'belong' to a cause.

[Real Men Wear Green]

They got to be in a Trump commercial. In Trump's mind that's probably the highlight of their lives.

[jstern]

Look at the anger. It's amazing how easily people fall for propaganda, so long as it's against someone they were told to hate. More effective when you put dramatic music behind it.

When he knew he was going to go to Iraq Tim Walz dropped out of the army and allowed his unit to go without him. And then he brags about being in war (Which is stolen valor)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bkgy8vckN0

[John8204]

I'm glad you brought up Tim Walz this is once again an example of the right's disrespect towards Veterans.

Tim served 2 decades with the National Guard after 20 years of service you earn the right to retire...he relisted for another term. He was selected to run for Congress later his unit was called into war. He earned the rank of Command Sergeant Major when he retired his rank was reduced. This is a fact that liars on the right choose to ignore. Disrespecting a man's service for political gain.

Next the quote...

“We can make sure that those weapons of war that I carried — in war is the only place where those weapons are at.”

This was not a brag on his part but a conversation about gun control. His verbiage could have been better but to claim stolen valor because the man didn't see combat is disgusting. Especially compared to a "marine" who never saw combat and someone who took a series of deferments when we were at war.

Finally let's talk about why he retired...because he wanted to have and raise his children. That delay also likely led to his son being born with a handicap. He went onto serve in Congress on the Veterans Committee and Armed Service Committee. The same scumbags who attacked his autistic son...talk about cowardice.

But that's Tim Walz resume...lets talk about who you are voting for in Donald Trump.

A man who refused to honor serviceman because it was raining.
Who thinks that people who serve are suckers.
A man who has employed several people in his administration who got busted for taking bribes from foreign nations.
A man who dodged the Vietnam War.
A man attacked John McCain's service because he got captured.

And now he did a photo-op in a cemetery...character matters

[Patrick Chewing]

Democrats are far less patriotic than Republicans, so all this anger towards Donald Trump is just a show. Smoke and mirrors. They don’t give a damn about the military or fallen soldiers. They just want to appear to be better than Donald Trump.

[highwhey]

Democrats are far less patriotic than Republicans, so all this anger towards Donald Trump is just a show. Smoke and mirrors. They don’t give a damn about the military or fallen soldiers. They just want to appear to be better than Donald Trump.

that's correct, in general, republicans and libertarians are more patriotic than dems. But MAGGATS are not, bc you gays, i mean guys follow whatever trump says blindly even if it's colluding with russia/commies.

[Patrick Chewing]

that's correct, in general, republicans and libertarians are more patriotic than dems. But MAGGATS are not, bc you gays, i mean guys follow whatever trump says blindly even if it's colluding with russia/commies.

That literally makes no sense and makes you look stupid as hell. Watch any MAGA rally and you’ll see more American flags than people. Watch any Democrat rally and you’ll see more Palestinian flags than people.

[highwhey]

That literally makes no sense and makes you look stupid as hell. Watch any MAGA rally and you’ll see more American flags than people. Watch any Democrat rally and you’ll see more Palestinian flags than people.

oh wow, flags now equate to patriotism? plenty of dems wave american flags. it's quite literally at every democratic event...

except kamala isn't making backdoor deals with putin nor is she taking home classified nuclear weapon documents, sucks to hear the truth don't it. sucks to suck ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[John8204]

Democrats are far less patriotic than Republicans, so all this anger towards Donald Trump is just a show. Smoke and mirrors. They don’t give a damn about the military or fallen soldiers. They just want to appear to be better than Donald Trump.

Well first and foremost I'm not a registered Democrat and have voted for many Republican's over the years. But your generation of republicans has shown a long serving pattern of disrespect towards servicemen. It started with John Kerry and it's been going on for the last 20 years. Patriotism isn't patriotism only when it's convenient...that opportunism.

[highwhey]

Well first and foremost I'm not a registered Democrat and have voted for many Republican's over the years. But your generation of republicans has shown a long serving pattern of disrespect towards servicemen. It started with John Kerry and it's been going on for the last 20 years. Patriotism isn't patriotism only when it's convenient...that opportunism.

https://66.media.tumblr.com/049f688479684b7e3e77a8ab195967a8/tumblr_p56cjm8mV31vdujbco1_500.gif

[90sgoat]

I don't think killing a bunch of people in the Middle East for the benefit of Israel and Big Oil is particularly honorable either.

The american army has essentially been a merch army since 2001.

[Patrick Chewing]

Well first and foremost I'm not a registered Democrat and have voted for many Republican's over the years. But your generation of republicans has shown a long serving pattern of disrespect towards servicemen. It started with John Kerry and it's been going on for the last 20 years. Patriotism isn't patriotism only when it's convenient...that opportunism.

Another one lol. Why does everyone on this board proceed to give up their Democrat card as soon as something factual goes against them?? :oldlol:

It never fails.

[John8204]

Another one lol. Why does everyone on this board proceed to give up their Democrat card as soon as something factual goes against them?? :oldlol:

It never fails.

I've never registered as a Democrat. I was very conservative when I was young, I vote on the side of fiscal responsibility and the Right has completely given up on that over the years

[Jasper]

There's a lot to dislike about this coward of a human being. He is a dishonorable human being that goes against most fundamental principles of the right. Yet we have idiots like patrickchewing that follow him blindly and do not hold him accountable for any of his faults. It's actually quite sad to see so many souls hang their hopes in his hands, they want to belong to something so badly that they are willing to overlook their own integrity and morals just to 'belong' to a cause.

10-4 nothing like reaming a porn star,,, and saying no abortion for you... call the baby - trash can or dumpster

[John8204]

Trump Was Frustrated At Funeral Costs Of Soldier Vanessa Guillén: 'F**king Mexican'

Donald Trump has a lengthy history of showing disdain toward immigrants and fallen service people. According to a shocking article from The Atlantic on Tuesday, his hatred for the two groups never merged more strongly than following the assassination of U.S. Army officer Vanessa Guillén, whom the former president referred to as a “f------ Mexican” when he learned of the expense of her burial.

According to a shocking article published by The Atlantic on Tuesday, former president Donald Trump reported that the former president asked an advisor, months after the death of American soldier of Mexican ancestry, Vanessa Guillen, on August 15, 2020, about her funeral expenses. When he heard that it was $60,000, the report claims that he referred to Guillen as a “f----- Mexican”
Guillen, a 20-year-old US soldier, was murdered by a male colleague after sexually harassing her at Fort Hood, in Texas. Trump, who was the president then, enquired about the funereal cost of Guillen and whether the state paid for it. When he was told about the exact cost of the burial, the former president reportedly said: “It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a f---ing Mexican.” The Atlantic cited people who were in the meeting where this exchange happened, without naming them.

The report claims that after making the allegedly racist comment, Trump ordered his chief of staff to not pay for it. The Atlantic also reported that the former president did not send money to hep the family of Guillen, and allegedly also claimed that the family was trying to take advantage of him.
“Can you believe it?” Trump said, as per one of the sources cited in the report. “F---ing people, trying to rip me off.”

However, the same report cited a spokesperson of Donald Trump, Alex Pfeiffer, who said that Trump never referred to the Texas soldier as 'f---ing Mexican.' “This is an outrageous lie from The Atlantic two weeks before the election,” Pfeiffer said, asserting that the 78-year-old "never said that."

Is this a new low for Trump?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URZ4RCLUfek

[highwhey]

Trump Was Frustrated At Funeral Costs Of Soldier Vanessa Guillén: 'F**king Mexican'

Donald Trump has a lengthy history of showing disdain toward immigrants and fallen service people. According to a shocking article from The Atlantic on Tuesday, his hatred for the two groups never merged more strongly than following the assassination of U.S. Army officer Vanessa Guillén, whom the former president referred to as a “f------ Mexican” when he learned of the expense of her burial.

According to a shocking article published by The Atlantic on Tuesday, former president Donald Trump reported that the former president asked an advisor, months after the death of American soldier of Mexican ancestry, Vanessa Guillen, on August 15, 2020, about her funeral expenses. When he heard that it was $60,000, the report claims that he referred to Guillen as a “f----- Mexican”
Guillen, a 20-year-old US soldier, was murdered by a male colleague after sexually harassing her at Fort Hood, in Texas. Trump, who was the president then, enquired about the funereal cost of Guillen and whether the state paid for it. When he was told about the exact cost of the burial, the former president reportedly said: “It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a f---ing Mexican.” The Atlantic cited people who were in the meeting where this exchange happened, without naming them.

The report claims that after making the allegedly racist comment, Trump ordered his chief of staff to not pay for it. The Atlantic also reported that the former president did not send money to hep the family of Guillen, and allegedly also claimed that the family was trying to take advantage of him.
“Can you believe it?” Trump said, as per one of the sources cited in the report. “F---ing people, trying to rip me off.”

However, the same report cited a spokesperson of Donald Trump, Alex Pfeiffer, who said that Trump never referred to the Texas soldier as 'f---ing Mexican.' “This is an outrageous lie from The Atlantic two weeks before the election,” Pfeiffer said, asserting that the 78-year-old "never said that."

Is this a new low for Trump?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URZ4RCLUfek

trump is such a piece of human excrement :facepalm

[AKA_AAP]

DemBotJohn8204 posting a fake news story, then posts a Fox News video that has nothing to do with the texts just so he can add legitimize his post. This is a new low. The more fake news he posts, the lower his IRL income becomes. :lol

[ZenMaster]

Wow.
I don’t appreciate how you are exploiting my sister’s death for politics- hurtful & disrespectful to the important changes she made for service members. President Donald Trump did nothing but show respect to my family & Vanessa. In fact, I voted for President Trump today.

https://x.com/mguilen_/status/1848824382572900374


After having dealt with hundreds of reporters in my legal career, this is unfortunately the first time I have to go on record and call out Jeffrey Goldberg@the Atlantic: not only did he misrepresent our conversation but he outright LIED in HIS sensational story.
More importantly, he used and exploited my clients, and Vanessa Guillen’s murder… for cheap political gain.

I would like to also point out that the timing of this “story” is quite suspicious, as this supposed conversation that Trump had would have occurred over 4 years ago!
Why a story about it now?!

As everyone knows, not only did Trump support our military, he also invited my clients to the Oval Office and supported the I Am Vanessa Guillen bill too.

I’m grateful we were successful in getting bipartisan support of the I Am Vanessa Guillen Act, and because of everyone’s hard work and efforts our service members now have more protections and rights while serving our country.

https://x.com/WhistleblowerLF/status/1848865275955056983

[AKA_AAP]

https://x.com/mguilen_/status/1848824382572900374



https://x.com/WhistleblowerLF/status/1848865275955056983

This is why I always put ZERO weight into 99% of anti-Trump stories. They eventually get debunked. How many times does a dem-bot like DemBotJohn8204 get fooled? Over and over and over again.

[rmt]

It would seem to me that (Trump) rebuilding the military (putting money into it) and creating Space Force would do more for the military than what Biden has done.

Biden's meager 1% US defense budget increase buys fewer ships, jets

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/bidens-meager-1-us-defense-budget-increase-buys-fewer-ships-jets-2024-03-11/

[Lakers Legend#32]

I like presidents who do not praise Hitler.

[TheMan]

trump is such a piece of human excrement :facepalm

We have idiots like 1987_Lakers (who claims he's Mexican American) supporting this fat racist pig. Self hating low IQs the Latinos who support Trump.

[highwhey]

We have idiots like 1987_Lakers (who claims he's Mexican American) supporting this fat racist pig. Self hating low IQs the Latinos who support Trump.

yeah, anyone supporting trump hates themselves because trump is not someone looking after you (unless you're a billionaire in need of tax cuts). he's expressed various times dislike for soldiers, latinos, and all other supporters of his. but people like 1987 are desperate to find someone that will bring meaning to their life. you think patrickchewing is a winner in real life? hell nah. all trump supporters are basement dwellers and social outcasts looking for something to give meaning to their pathetic lives. that's why trump is so popular, he's appealing to people in the fringes. it's also the reason why those same people that were once quiet and kept to themselves feel so empowered and bold all of a sudden, then they start being very loud and speaking absolute putrid ideas.

[rmt]

yeah, anyone supporting trump hates themselves because trump is not someone looking after you (unless you're a billionaire in need of tax cuts). he's expressed various times dislike for soldiers, latinos, and all other supporters of his. but people like 1987 are desperate to find someone that will bring meaning to their life. you think patrickchewing is a winner in real life? hell nah. all trump supporters are basement dwellers and social outcasts looking for something to give meaning to their pathetic lives. that's why trump is so popular, he's appealing to people in the fringes. it's also the reason why those same people that were once quiet and kept to themselves feel so empowered and bold all of a sudden, then they start being very loud and speaking absolute putrid ideas.

That's some sweeping generalization about 74 million people - sounds like TDS carried over to mostly ordinary Americans.

[highwhey]

That's some sweeping generalization about 74 million people - sounds like TDS carried over to mostly ordinary Americans.

it's been my anecdotal experience :confusedshrug:

i've yet to meet one maga that isn't some social outcast or weirdo that shares conspiracy theories 24/7. and i work in an industry full of maga supporters, everything from laborers to millionaires. all weird af or batsh1t crazy. what's crazy to me is knowing millionaires blaming biden for the immigration issue while they own companies that employ illegal immigrants...that's just crazy.

[TheMan]

it's been my anecdotal experience :confusedshrug:

i've yet to meet one maga that isn't some social outcast or weirdo that shares conspiracy theories 24/7. and i work in an industry full of maga supporters, everything from laborers to millionaires. all weird af or batsh1t crazy. what's crazy to me is knowing millionaires blaming biden for the immigration issue while they own companies that employ illegal immigrants...that's just crazy.

I don't think these racist scumbags have really thought it through what it would cost to deport so many people, Trump ain't doing shit if he gets elected, he's just pandering to the low IQs and there won't be any political fallout when he doesn't do 1/10 of the things he's promising if he gets elected, he's only doing 4 years, he doesn't care about the GOP, he only cares about himself and he tells his sheep all the shit they want to hear. His approval ratings were in the dumps 4 years ago, unfortunately most Americans have the attention span of gnats. If he wins, I'm going to be laughing when his approval ratings go down back to where they were in 2020

https://www.statista.com/statistics/666113/approval-rate-of-donald-trump-for-the-presidential-job/

He never cracked 50% during his term :roll:

[highwhey]

I don't think these racist scumbags have really thought it through what it would cost to deport so many people, Trump ain't doing shit if he gets elected, he's just pandering to the low IQs and there won't be any political fallout when he doesn't do 1/10 of the things he's promising if he gets elected, he's only doing 4 years, he doesn't care about the GOP, he only cares about himself and he tells his sheep all the shit they want to hear. His approval ratings were in the dumps 4 years ago, unfortunately most Americans have the attention span of gnats. If he wins, I'm going to be laughing when his approval ratings go down back to where they were in 2020

https://www.statista.com/statistics/666113/approval-rate-of-donald-trump-for-the-presidential-job/

He never cracked 50% during his term :roll:

yeah the labor workforce would be depleted and never replaced no matter what wage increase. the unfortunate truth is that americans DO NOT want to do the dirty work that illegal immigrants do.

as for the matter of national security,, it's absolutely hilarious that illegal immigrants are the focus when it's homegrown white americans shooting up schools and public places. it's the militias of north carolina threatening FEMA workers that are trying to provide aid to hurrican victims. but that doesn't sway votes towards trump so let's pretend it doesn't exist. :facepalm

[John8204]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2PDL5zfUdc

More generals who worked under the Trump admin don't want him as President


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6dtf8V6XYE

[John8204]

Also a vote for Trump will likely lead to WWIII


CNN —

A group of North Korean soldiers have been spotted in Russia’s Kursk region, an area that borders Ukraine and has seen ongoing military operations, Ukraine’s military intelligence service announced Thursday.

In a post on its official Telegram account, the Defense Intelligence of Ukraine said some North Korean troops, who had received training in Russia’s far east, have made their way to the western Russia region, where Ukraine has maintained a foothold since launching an incursion in August.

The intelligence service said the troops had been seen in Kursk on Wednesday. It added that the roughly 12,000 North Korean soldiers that have been deployed to Russia are receiving training at five military training grounds in the east.

The Kremlin had initially dismissed allegations of North Korean troop deployments in Russia, but on Thursday at the BRICS summit, President Vladimir Putin did not deny that Pyongyang had sent soldiers to the country.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/24/europe/ukraine-north-korean-troops-spotted-kursk-intl-latam/index.html

https://media-cldnry.s-nbcnews.com/image/upload/t_fit-1500w,f_auto,q_auto:best/MSNBC/Components/Video/201906/tdy_sun_chuck_trump_nk_190630_1920x1080.jpg

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/thumbor/BdcIOoVX3QgoHhsHpXnnaw6qFrM=/0x69:3068x1795/960x540/media/img/mt/2019/05/RTX6BNCY/original.jpg

[j3lademaster]

yeah the labor workforce would be depleted and never replaced no matter what wage increase. the unfortunate truth is that americans DO NOT want to do the dirty work that illegal immigrants do.

as for the matter of national security,, it's absolutely hilarious that illegal immigrants are the focus when it's homegrown white americans shooting up schools and public places. it's the militias of north carolina threatening FEMA workers that are trying to provide aid to hurrican victims. but that doesn't sway votes towards trump so let's pretend it doesn't exist. :facepalmI'm sure as someone who owns a landscaping company you understand this more than most. We should empower more Americans in added value positions at the end of supply chains like IT, tech, accounting rather than the basic manufacturing. We aren't going to compete with China who can pay steel workers the equivalent to $800-1000/mo, and if we try it's going to either kill the industry as all of our steel workers strike over low wages or we allow steel to inflate the dollar like crazy and transfer even more wealth to asset owners vs wage earners.

[highwhey]

I'm sure as someone who owns a landscaping company you understand this more than most. We should empower more Americans in added value positions at the end of supply chains like IT, tech, accounting rather than the basic manufacturing. We aren't going to compete with China who can pay steel workers the equivalent to $800-1000/mo, and if we try it's going to either kill the industry as all of our steel workers strike over low wages or we allow steel to inflate the dollar like crazy and transfer even more wealth to asset owners vs wage earners.

et tu, j3lademaster? :biggums:

i'm in the concrete industry.

[TheMan]

I'm sure as someone who owns a landscaping company you understand this more than most. We should empower more Americans in added value positions at the end of supply chains like IT, tech, accounting rather than the basic manufacturing. We aren't going to compete with China who can pay steel workers the equivalent to $800-1000/mo, and if we try it's going to either kill the industry as all of our steel workers strike over low wages or we allow steel to inflate the dollar like crazy and transfer even more wealth to asset owners vs wage earners.

Not even illegal immigrants really want to do those kinds of jobs, it's hard ass work and them not talking the language and having other skills, they have no other choice but to go out there bust their humps getting those jobs done. That's why their kids don't do those kinds of jobs, it's the recent arrivals that do them and not because their lazy, they just have more options unlike their parents.

It's time people stop demonizing them, they do the work no one wants to do, they keep the prices of produce for example, affordable for fat Americans to eat :lol Blame the rich business owners hiring them if you want to blame someone. Stop punching down.

[j3lademaster]

Not even illegal immigrants really want to do those kinds of jobs, it's hard ass work and them not talking the language and having other skills, they have no other choice but to go out there bust their humps getting those jobs done. That's why their kids don't do those kinds of jobs, it's the recent arrivals that do them and not because their lazy, they just have more options unlike their parents.

It's time people stop demonizing them, they do the work no one wants to do, they keep the prices of produce for example, affordable for fat Americans to eat :lol Blame the rich business owners hiring them if you want to blame someone. Stop punching down.
I agree. We keep letting them off the hook by blaming the laborers over the owner class. It sounds so out of touch to put that into words, but it seems like any kind of criticism we levy onto billionaires, we have a large percentage of Americans who will boot lick, er, I mean vehemently defend them.

“You just wanna stick it to the rich”

And

“Oh, you don’t like the practices of the wealth class? You must be a brokie who doesn’t understand the economy.”

[j3lademaster]

et tu, j3lademaster? :biggums:

i'm in the concrete industry.
Oh, right on. I always thought you were in landscaping for whatever reason. Either way, my point is you understand the plight of hard laborers more than most since you probably hire people to do tough jobs.

[highwhey]

Oh, right on. I always thought you were in landscaping for whatever reason. Either way, my point is you understand the plight of hard laborers more than most since you probably hire people to do tough jobs.

yeah, i do. and i'm mexican so i have had cousins cross the desert risking their lives or risk being trafficked just to come do back breaking work for cheap wages. it's even more annoying when MAGAs claim illegals come to leech of social welfare when the truth is they're likely making low wages and STILL getting taxed (pretty sure it's a felony to withhold taxes and not pay them to the feds which is what those employers do).

[jstern]

https://youtu.be/HeI41OkEAOI

20:20 is when he talks about Biden.

[DJMcDonald]

https://youtu.be/HeI41OkEAOI

20:20 is when he talks about Biden.

Didn't ask:yaohappy: