View Full Version : It’s game seven of the finals. Quadruple overtime 165-163. 7 seconds left.
Kblaze8855
09-02-2024, 01:35 PM
Your team’s best player throws the ball away, attempting to hot potato it to avoid the clock stopping. The other teams Best player(who has 61 points and has made 9 of 10 threes so far) runs it down and slides into the corner to take what would be the biggest shot in basketball history like so….
https://i.ibb.co/wMWn12B/IMG-9830.gif
BUT
Before he can take it a bench player in street clothes from your team grabs him and delivers a picture perfect German suplex out of bounds…..
https://i.ibb.co/jTFwLS8/IMG-9831.gif
Buzzer sounds and madness ensues. There is immediately an eight player five fan three coach brawl that takes 10 minutes to calm down and another 45 to reach a decision on what to do…
Silver decides that in the interest of fairness, only the offending out of bounds attacker will be immediately ejected and reset the clock to 5 seconds, which is when the turnover was complete and award a flagrant 2 for free throws and the ball. The star who was going to shoot can’t continue due to the arm he broke being suplexed.
Despite the strong objections they send out someone else for the free throws who misses the first and makes the second. They then setup for a final shot…which of course…doesn’t go in. Your team wins the title. Brawls between fans kick off on the stands. There is too much chaos to even award finals mvp and have the ceremony so they decide to clear the arena and do it later.
Your favorite player accepts Finals MVP in league offices the next day and your team is presented the trophy.
The NBA doesn’t have any protections for this situation unlike the NFL, which has what is called the palpably unfair act rule, which will give a ref almost limitless power to make something right. For example, if a fan runs out during the Super Bowl and stops a touchdown from being scored. The ref actually has the power to award a touchdown. It’s never happened but they do have the power.
But nothing in the NBA rules allows the refs or commissioner to simply award you three points and the game.
So your team “won”.
I have three questions….
Would you go to the parade and celebrate like it was legit?
Would you include that run on your favorite players list of accomplishments and defend it?
Would the attacking bench player be a local legend for life…or a villain? Would you rep that player going forward?
ShawkFactory
09-02-2024, 01:57 PM
1) I would certainly go to the parade. Even if in the back of my mind I felt a little off about the titles legitimacy, I'm not going to pass up an opportunity to take off a day of work and get drunk with hundreds of thousands of people.
2) Would probably need more context on that game and run as a whole, but I most likely would. Despite the poor decision and turnover it's not his fault the crazy shit happened. Who even knows if the shot is made.
3) I'd think neither hero nor villain but I certainly wouldn't rep him. Not only is it blatant cheating, but he also legit hurt the guy who was just competing and it could have been worse. Nah.
Kblaze8855
09-02-2024, 02:12 PM
I would legitimately be too concerned the parade route would be attacked to attend it. Imagine if this happens on the road in Boston, New York or Philly. You would have a hard time getting your team bus to safety.
I assume the offending player would be banned for life in the opening moments of the next business day. He wouldn’t be safe coming back to that city. The union would probably argue and get it taken to arbitration, but imagine that guy getting suspended for even like three seasons and coming back to play a game in Philly….
He would legitimately be jumped.
ShawkFactory
09-02-2024, 02:24 PM
I would legitimately be too concerned the parade route would be attacked to attend it. Imagine if this happens on the road in Boston, New York or Philly. You would have a hard time getting your team bus to safety.
I assume the offending player would be banned for life in the opening moments of the next business day. He wouldn’t be safe coming back to that city. The union would probably argue and get it taken to arbitration, but imagine that guy getting suspended for even like three seasons and coming back to play a game in Philly….
He would legitimately be jumped.
And would probably deserve it tbh.
Kblaze8855
09-02-2024, 02:30 PM
It would make a Hell of a 30 for 30 though. And silver would never beat the allegations that he put him up to it. Some local AG would charge him with assault. There would probably be an investigation into gambling. But…. I think he’s a Hero in his city once the heat is off.
ILLsmak
09-02-2024, 02:33 PM
I think they could find a way to award more fts. If they missed, sux. Dude would be removed from the league, no question.
The touchdown comparison doesn’t work because nobody knows if he would have made the shot. If they miss all their opportunities, what can you do?
I could see at least flag 2 and 2 fts for ejection though. Coming into the game is a tech and once he’s there he obviously intentionally fouls with the ball live. One could say only one tech, but I think they’d find a way to give both even though he’d have three at the end. But it’s two acts, the entry is imo 2 tech ejection and the foul is flag 2. My 2c.
I was laughing because I started reading this in good faith.
Edit: also no brawls. Everyone is in shock. Even the winners aren’t sure how to feel.
-Smak
Kblaze8855
09-02-2024, 02:42 PM
They could absolutely have done that 30 years ago. There was a brawl in the 90s between the Hawks and maybe the Clippers where someone got two technicals and a flagrant because only a flagrant two automatically got you ejected. You could get five flagrant ones and not be ejected. The other team just gets free throws and the ball. They changed it, and I believe it was because of that brawl with a player who had been acting up and should really have been ejected before that.
I think it involved Danny manning and Stacey Augmon. I’ll see if I can find it.
Full Court
09-02-2024, 03:04 PM
Someone getting suplexed with five seconds left in quadruple overtime would make for the most epic game in the history of the sport.
Street clothes suplexer would be a folk hero for sure.
And if it was my team that won, I'd celebrate like it was legit. But there would be an asterisk no doubt.
ILLsmak
09-02-2024, 03:08 PM
I also think if like the ball was in the air and spiderman swings over the hoop and knocks it away, they’d give them the points.
It’s just if he hadn’t shot it, there aren’t many options. I think the nba rules are pretty decent to deal with that kinda stuff.
And they will end a game early if stuff is going crazy. They just don’t, and probably rightly, have any ability to award points for nothing. Everything is based on the idea of getting fts.
In fact the person who would be in the second most danger would be the guy who missed the fts.
Edit: flagrant in the act of 3, maybe. 3 shots + 2 ft from tech + ball. Dude goes up there and is unable to secure a w after their star is injured, it would be some ‘laces out dan’ shit.
-Smak
Real Men Wear Green
09-02-2024, 03:13 PM
Would you go to the parade and celebrate like it was legit? No. Always appreciate a championship but boasting under that condition goes too far.
Would you include that run on your favorite players list of accomplishments and defend it?Yes. Larry Bird and Steph Curry have championships where a roleplayer won Finals MVP while their stats maybe were not so great. This guy supposedly plays well enough to win finals MVP he just has a bad final possession.
Would the attacking bench player be a local legend for life…or a villain? Would you rep that player going forward? They would get love from fans in the bar but the Celtics aren't giving him a TV or scouting job.
Kblaze8855
09-02-2024, 03:29 PM
I also think if like the ball was in the air and spiderman swings over the hoop and knocks it away, they’d give them the points.
back boards were actually created a little bit after the game because spectators would interfere with shots on purpose. The backboard was there to prevent van gold tending and I believe at the time a fan doing so counted as a made basket almost 50 years before defensive goaltending was banned to stop Mikan(60 years before it was banned to stop Wilt on offense).
sdot_thadon
09-03-2024, 02:34 PM
It would go down as the most infamous moment in NBA history and the street clothes guy would never recover as a player but he'd flourish later as a wwe heel. I think most of us would still hit the parade, while I'd probably not use that as a bragging point for a player or team going forward.(with a straight face at least) and that suplex is dominating the sports media talk for a solid year no doubt lol.
iamgine
09-04-2024, 12:42 AM
The championship is legit. After all, your team did make it to the game 7 finals and was up 2 points until the last few seconds. By that point whoever wins or lose deserve the championship.
It is tainted by one of your player doing a very dirty play but justice was already given to the other team by giving them 2 FTs and the ball. They couldn't execute and thus lost the game.
The bench player who did a German Suplex should be banned for life and fined all of his salary plus get sued. He should not be remembered at all.
Kblaze8855
09-04-2024, 09:04 AM
The championship is legit. After all, your team did make it to the game 7 finals and was up 2 points until the last few seconds. By that point whoever wins or lose deserve the championship.
It is tainted by one of your player doing a very dirty play but justice was already given to the other team by giving them 2 FTs and the ball. They couldn't execute and thus lost the game.
The bench player who did a German Suplex should be banned for life and fined all of his salary plus get sued. He should not be remembered at all.
He’d be on the podcast circuit doing record numbers for everyone he gave an interview. When he came out of hiding to do the Shannon Sharpe podcast it would do Katt Williams numbers at minimum.
iamgine
09-04-2024, 09:21 AM
He’d be on the podcast circuit doing record numbers for everyone he gave an interview. When he came out of hiding to do the Shannon Sharpe podcast it would do Katt Williams numbers at minimum.
I won't blame him for that. Even I would want to know where did he learn german suplex and why not just a push.
BarberSchool
09-09-2024, 10:34 PM
Tldr
Kblaze8855
01-26-2025, 06:48 PM
Washington Almost got a palpably unfair act touchdown awarded just now against the Eagles.
StickyWice
01-26-2025, 07:39 PM
Wow thread like dis say how much nba suck and this forum not many topic makes
Real Men Wear Green
01-26-2025, 08:34 PM
Washington Almost got a palpably unfair act touchdown awarded just now against the Eagles.
I guess it's a good rule. The half-distance to the goal was wasting everyone's time. It feels like something that could get abused though. Before awarding a touchdown outright the refs should have a conference or it should be an act of the league office or something where it's not just up to one man.
ArbitraryWater
01-26-2025, 11:40 PM
:oldlol:
Enjoyed reading
Kblaze8855
01-27-2025, 01:01 AM
I guess it's a good rule. The half-distance to the goal was wasting everyone's time. It feels like something that could get abused though. Before awarding a touchdown outright the refs should have a conference or it should be an act of the league office or something where it's not just up to one man.
I saw a lot of people who had no idea. It was an option being upset that referees even have that power. When you think it through, someone has to be able to put a stop to any possible chicanery. I’m not sure what it would take for a similar rules to be necessary in the NBA, but the day is going to come.
We may not live to see it but at some point something ridiculous is going to happen to justify unusual measures be taken, and someone is going to ask why a rule wasn’t already in place.
Off the top of my head, the closest I can remember is the NBA making the heat and the Hawks replay the last few minutes of a game long after it ended when Shaq was unjustly fouled out.
I’m sure they had to bring in lawyers and call an emergency meeting. All because they didn’t give anyone the authority to make the call on the fly. Theyre just begging for a finals deciding trained falcon to swoop out of the rafters and knock a ball off its path that changes the course of history.
if I have to crawl out of my grave when it happens, I swear I will be there for my victory lap.
Kblaze8855
02-07-2025, 08:05 AM
Seeing this happen makes me wonder how it would go if it were a series ending game winner
https://i.ibb.co/9HQrgHh0/IMG-1174.gif
Who would the primary conspiracy assume the ref was trying to rig it for?
The offense or the defense?
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