9/11 truthers, how do you explain Bin Laden?

[ArbitraryWater]

Whats your version?

[jstern]

I was planning on making a 9/11 related thread, tomorrow or so. It requires me to give a direct link to download a video though. Else I would have created it already.

[warriorfan]

Bin Laden trained a group of middle eastern guys by sending them to a flight school then they were able to hop into a jumbo jet and in their first attempt fly directly into both twin towers and also do a 270 degree corkscrew while flying 500+ mph less than 10 meters from the ground and crash directly into the pentagon, one of the most secure targets in the entire world….even after a state of emergency was kicked off over 4 hours earlier.




Sounds legit.

[highwhey]

I was planning on making a 9/11 related thread, tomorrow or so. It requires me to give a direct link to download a video though. Else I would have created it already.

thank you, i was wondering if you were going to make a 9/11 related thread tomorrow or so.

[jstern]

thank you, i was wondering if you were going to make a 9/11 related thread tomorrow or so.

That could be due to your potential autism.

Edit: I mistakenly thought this was the Axe account. Though there's still the possibility of highwhey and Axe being the same person.

[highwhey]

That could be due to your potential autism.

I watched alien romulus last night and the synthetic (robot) had autism, he was on the spectrum and very fragile physically, two characteristics that define you greatly. the robot reminded me of you. no offense :cheers:

[warriorfan]

I watched alien romulus last night and the synthetic (robot) had autism, he was on the spectrum and very fragile physically, two characteristics that define you greatly. the robot reminded me of you. no offense :cheers:

Was it worth the price of admission having to buy two seats considering your obesity?

[Off the Court]

I was planning on making a 9/11 related thread, tomorrow or so. It requires me to give a direct link to download a video though. Else I would have created it already.

SWEET! I'll wait to give my opinion on 9/11 when you make your thread tomorrow! See you then!

I've got big plans for some threads too!

[Patrick Chewing]

The truth? Another 9/11 attack will happen again considering we have no idea who is in this country illegally. Wokeness and political correctness will kill us all.

[Off the Court]

The truth? Another 9/11 attack will happen again considering we have no idea who is in this country illegally. Wokeness and political correctness will kill us all.

Yep. Feminists will just explode all of New York City. Like a giant woke nuke. Only Trump combined with Jesus can stop it. I know we've got some praying to do!

[RRR3]

Yep. Feminists will just explode all of New York City. Like a giant woke nuke. Only Trump combined with Jesus can stop it. I know we've got some praying to do!
The funny thing is the caricature of Islam Chewing has painted in his head sounds a lot like him: violent, religious extremist who won't tolerate any differing opinions. Of course that's a pretty horrible way to paint an entire group of people and the majority of all people are decent, but considering that's what he BELIEVES Muslim people are like, it's funny he can't recognize he's describing himself.

[Patrick Chewing]

Two completely clueless individuals above me. They'll be the first to get their heads chopped off.

[RRR3]

Two completely clueless individuals above me. They'll be the first to get their heads chopped off.
Making violent threats again, you just can't help yourself can you?

[Patrick Chewing]

Making violent threats again, you just can't help yourself can you?

I don't make violent threats. I'm not Muslim.


But don't say I didn't warn ya. Remember who you are. You are Jewish. You are public enemy number one to those people. There's no hiding. Don't come to us later on for help either. We'll just be there to tell you I told you so.

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ueU-aGksbA

[ArbitraryWater]

Bin Laden trained a group of middle eastern guys by sending them to a flight school then they were able to hop into a jumbo jet and in their first attempt fly directly into both twin towers and also do a 270 degree corkscrew while flying 500+ mph less than 10 meters from the ground and crash directly into the pentagon, one of the most secure targets in the entire world….even after a state of emergency was kicked off over 4 hours earlier.




Sounds legit.


Yeah, its all foul.


But how do you explain his existence/taking credit for it?

[ArbitraryWater]

I didnt even realize its 9/11 tomorrow lmao

[Doomsday Dallas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ueU-aGksbA


Funny how people dismiss & ignore this video.

Just a crazy nutjob conspiracy theorist who happened to get lucky I guess... or maybe not so lucky since he was killed shortly after 9/11.

[ShawkFactory]

Yeah, its all foul.


But how do you explain his existence/taking credit for it?

I’m not necessarily a 9/11 truther. But this situation is win/win. Bin Laden gets the cred amongst the radical Islam hordes and the US is absolved of blame with someone else taking credit.

[ArbitraryWater]

I’m not necessarily a 9/11 truther. But this situation is win/win. Bin Laden gets the cred amongst the radical Islam hordes and the US is absolved of blame with someone else taking credit.

Right, so most people are on page with him being CIA?


I wonder if he let his comrades/followers in on it in the sense that they were paid off too.

Or if he fooled them, then.


Tim Osman was apparently his CIA name.

https://cryptome.org/tim-osman.htm
this ****ing link is the only thing Google will show you about it lol

[ArbitraryWater]

Whats sketchy is letting Bin Laden if he was in on it, live another decade after 9/11...

Maybe that was part of the deal :lol

[SouBeachTalents]

I feel like there are so many holes in the 9/11 conspiracy theories

1. Why would they feel the need to carry out any attack beyond the WTC? Why would they risk exposure with two additional attacks when the vast majority of the casualties would already be at the WTC, and that alone would be grounds for war overseas/any other motivations they'd have to do this.

2. If they went through all the trouble to carry out this attack to murder 3000 civilians, why wouldn't they just plant WMD's in Iraq to justify their invasion? That honestly makes zero sense, and I'd love to hear an explanation for why they would do this.

3. Why would they schedule Bush to be at an elementary school the morning of the attack? You could argue it makes it seem like they were that unprepared for the attack, but I don't see a real benefit to having him recorded live while the events are going on.

4. Regardless of political party, I think the majority would agree Bush was the worst president of the modern era, someone who's administration showed incompetence at nearly every turn. Do you really trust his team to pull off such an intricate plot while never getting caught?

5. Arguably the most damning to me, the amount of people required to be involved to pull off this level of attack would be pretty staggering. Are you telling me not a single person involved in all these years would ever come forward, either out of guilt for all those killed or for the the absolutely absurd amount of fame & money they would obtain by doing so? Sure, you could argue doing that would put them at significant risk to be killed, but I think either the guilt of so many deaths on their conscience or the benefits to blow the whistle on an event the scale of 9/11 would be worth the risk to at least one person involved.

There's probably even more holes in the story I could come up with, but all in all, I feel like a bunch of terrorists training to fly, then hijacking planes when security was much more lax makes more sense than it being an inside job. If you have rebuttals for the above, I'd love to hear them.

[diamenz]

I feel like there are so many holes in the 9/11 conspiracy theories

1. Why would they feel the need to carry out any attack beyond the WTC? Why would they risk exposure with two additional attacks when the vast majority of the casualties would already be at the WTC, and that alone would be grounds for war overseas/any other motivations they'd have to do this.

2. If they went through all the trouble to carry out this attack to murder 3000 civilians, why wouldn't they just plant WMD's in Iraq to justify their invasion? That honestly makes zero sense, and I'd love to hear an explanation for why they would do this.

3. Why would they schedule Bush to be at an elementary school the morning of the attack? You could argue it makes it seem like they were that unprepared for the attack, but I don't see a real benefit to having him recorded live while the events are going on.

4. Regardless of political party, I think the majority would agree Bush was the worst president of the modern era, someone who's administration showed incompetence at nearly every turn. Do you really trust his team to pull off such an intricate plot while never getting caught?

5. Arguably the most damning to me, the amount of people required to be involved to pull off this level of attack would be pretty staggering. Are you telling me not a single person involved in all these years would ever come forward, either out of guilt for all those killed or for the the absolutely absurd amount of fame & money they would obtain by doing so? Sure, you could argue doing that would put them at significant risk to be killed, but I think either the guilt of so many deaths on their conscience or the benefits to blow the whistle on an event the scale of 9/11 would be worth the risk to at least one person involved.

There's probably even more holes in the story I could come up with, but all in all, I feel like a bunch of terrorists training to fly, then hijacking planes when security was much more lax makes more sense than it being an inside job. If you have rebuttals for the above, I'd love to hear them.

i'm gonna spare myself from the subject of this thread for the mos part but in regard to #3...

would you trust bush jr. with anything? if someone at the top or behind the scenes did indeed somehow orchestrate 9/11, the first thing on their mind would absolutely and positively be leaving bush in the dark about it.

[Bill Gates]

I feel like there are so many holes in the 9/11 conspiracy theories

1. Why would they feel the need to carry out any attack beyond the WTC? Why would they risk exposure with two additional attacks when the vast majority of the casualties would already be at the WTC, and that alone would be grounds for war overseas/any other motivations they'd have to do this.

2. If they went through all the trouble to carry out this attack to murder 3000 civilians, why wouldn't they just plant WMD's in Iraq to justify their invasion? That honestly makes zero sense, and I'd love to hear an explanation for why they would do this.

3. Why would they schedule Bush to be at an elementary school the morning of the attack? You could argue it makes it seem like they were that unprepared for the attack, but I don't see a real benefit to having him recorded live while the events are going on.

4. Regardless of political party, I think the majority would agree Bush was the worst president of the modern era, someone who's administration showed incompetence at nearly every turn. Do you really trust his team to pull off such an intricate plot while never getting caught?

5. Arguably the most damning to me, the amount of people required to be involved to pull off this level of attack would be pretty staggering. Are you telling me not a single person involved in all these years would ever come forward, either out of guilt for all those killed or for the the absolutely absurd amount of fame & money they would obtain by doing so? Sure, you could argue doing that would put them at significant risk to be killed, but I think either the guilt of so many deaths on their conscience or the benefits to blow the whistle on an event the scale of 9/11 would be worth the risk to at least one person involved.

There's probably even more holes in the story I could come up with, but all in all, I feel like a bunch of terrorists training to fly, then hijacking planes when security was much more lax makes more sense than it being an inside job. If you have rebuttals for the above, I'd love to hear them.

There are so many holes it's ridiculous. To me the single biggest hole is that if the US Gov really cares so deeply about what the US public thinks, then why didn't they plant WMDs in Iraq? That would have been absolutely simple to orchestrate.

All of this was some insanely massive (and weird) conspiracy to convince the American people that it's okay to invade the middle east, but they didn't care to put WMDs in Iraq? Which would have justified ALL of it for us? Makes no sense. None of it makes any sense.

[Bill Gates]

Also mind you, right before 9/11 the US had just attacked and occupied Iraq (Desert Storm) without any terror attack or threat needed. They didn't care the slightest what the citizens thought about it.

[Patrick Chewing]

Also mind you, right before 9/11 the US had just attacked and occupied Iraq (Desert Storm) without any terror attack or threat needed. They didn't care the slightest what the citizens thought about it.

LOL uhhh I think you are mistaken. Slightly off. By only 10 years. :lol

[jstern]

SWEET! I'll wait to give my opinion on 9/11 when you make your thread tomorrow! See you then!

I've got big plans for some threads too!

I'm not going to create a 9/11 related thread when there's an active one, and undermine it.


I didnt even realize its 9/11 tomorrow lmao

I didn't know either. And though I said I was going to create my 9/11 thread today, I was actually aming for tomorrow.


Also mind you, right before 9/11 the US had just attacked and occupied Iraq (Desert Storm) without any terror attack or threat needed. They didn't care the slightest what the citizens thought about it.

Are you unaware of Nayirah testimony? (Difficult to find on YouTube).


https://youtu.be/PnREW2OqFKI

The girl took acting lessons for that performance.

But one performance is not going to be enough to invade so many different countries, over decades, to launder trillions. You need a much bigger shock than incubator babies.

[ArbitraryWater]

I feel like there are so many holes in the 9/11 conspiracy theories

1. Why would they feel the need to carry out any attack beyond the WTC? Why would they risk exposure with two additional attacks when the vast majority of the casualties would already be at the WTC, and that alone would be grounds for war overseas/any other motivations they'd have to do this.

2. If they went through all the trouble to carry out this attack to murder 3000 civilians, why wouldn't they just plant WMD's in Iraq to justify their invasion? That honestly makes zero sense, and I'd love to hear an explanation for why they would do this.

3. Why would they schedule Bush to be at an elementary school the morning of the attack? You could argue it makes it seem like they were that unprepared for the attack, but I don't see a real benefit to having him recorded live while the events are going on.

4. Regardless of political party, I think the majority would agree Bush was the worst president of the modern era, someone who's administration showed incompetence at nearly every turn. Do you really trust his team to pull off such an intricate plot while never getting caught?

5. Arguably the most damning to me, the amount of people required to be involved to pull off this level of attack would be pretty staggering. Are you telling me not a single person involved in all these years would ever come forward, either out of guilt for all those killed or for the the absolutely absurd amount of fame & money they would obtain by doing so? Sure, you could argue doing that would put them at significant risk to be killed, but I think either the guilt of so many deaths on their conscience or the benefits to blow the whistle on an event the scale of 9/11 would be worth the risk to at least one person involved.

There's probably even more holes in the story I could come up with, but all in all, I feel like a bunch of terrorists training to fly, then hijacking planes when security was much more lax makes more sense than it being an inside job. If you have rebuttals for the above, I'd love to hear them.


No words on Bin Laden?



As for 4) and 5):

Its not Bush who would have orchestrated it. He was just the sitting president. He probably would have had knowledge, but what was really interesting to me; what Vivek said the last couple of days:

President Biden has cognitive difficulties. President Harris has cognitive difficulties. This isnt by mistake. This is by design. Bush was a simpleton too. These people are prob in over their head and its by design. They dont lead the country after all.


And you overestimate the amount of people that would have to be in on this. Many could act along accordingly while believing what theyre doing is good, this is where the CIA funding and training Abajeen or whatever fighters comes into play, for example. Mobilizing them. You work up someone like Bin Laden, its an easy sell to many Islamists to do what they did.

The stuff at the airport would never have had to happen.

Did anyone at the airport actually witness these guys? Any witness accounts?

[warriorfan]

No words on Bin Laden?



Anyway, its not Bush who would have orchestrated it. He was just the sitting president. He probably would have had knowledge, but what was really interesting to me; what Vivek said the last couple of days:

President Biden has cognitive difficulties. President Harris has cognitive difficulties. This isnt by mistake. This is by design. Bush was a simpleton too. These people are prob in over their head and its by design. They dont lead the country after all.

I’ve said for years that Biden is the new version of Bush jr, an unaware figurehead that allows everyone else to pull the strings behind him. He’s just a yes man who signs the papers in a ceremonial fashion.

Some guys think this is a good thing….”at least he doesn’t make mean tweets like trump!”

lol

[ArbitraryWater]

I feel like there are so many holes in the 9/11 conspiracy theories

1. Why would they feel the need to carry out any attack beyond the WTC? Why would they risk exposure with two additional attacks when the vast majority of the casualties would already be at the WTC, and that alone would be grounds for war overseas/any other motivations they'd have to do this.

2. If they went through all the trouble to carry out this attack to murder 3000 civilians, why wouldn't they just plant WMD's in Iraq to justify their invasion? That honestly makes zero sense, and I'd love to hear an explanation for why they would do this.

3. Why would they schedule Bush to be at an elementary school the morning of the attack? You could argue it makes it seem like they were that unprepared for the attack, but I don't see a real benefit to having him recorded live while the events are going on.


I dont see how 3 is indicative of anything. Wasnt redudant or beneficial. The picture of him being told probably went around the world.

I mean, the first tower was hit BEFORE he entered that room. He already had knowledge. So you could easily argue they were going for that.


2) I dont think planting WMDs is very easy.


A terror attack gave Americans a much better picture of an enemy, and Israel too ("greater Israel").


Netanyahu was in Congress in 2002 and suggested to America that they should overthrow Saddam Hussein, for "Democracy".

Theres a book called "A Clean Break" which focuses on how America and Israel planned to overthrow Hussein since the 90s.



Youd be right about 1). I wouldnt see the motive for that.


However, there are many disputes about those events too.

Many experts have said no plane crashed into the Pentagon.

[SouBeachTalents]

I dont see how 3 is indicative of anything. Wasnt redudant or beneficial. The picture of him being told probably went around the world.

I mean, the first tower was hit BEFORE he entered that room. He already had knowledge. So you could easily argue they were going for that.


2) I dont think planting WMDs is very easy.


A terror attack gave Americans a much better picture of an enemy, and Israel too ("greater Israel").


Netanyahu was in Congress in 2002 and suggested to America that they should overthrow Saddam Hussein, for "Democracy".

Theres a book called "A Clean Break" which focuses on how America and Israel planned to overthrow Hussein since the 90s.



Youd be right about 1). I wouldnt see the motive for that.


However, there are many disputes about those events too.

Many experts have said no plane crashed into the Pentagon.


No words on Bin Laden?



As for 4) and 5):

Its not Bush who would have orchestrated it. He was just the sitting president. He probably would have had knowledge, but what was really interesting to me; what Vivek said the last couple of days:

President Biden has cognitive difficulties. President Harris has cognitive difficulties. This isnt by mistake. This is by design. Bush was a simpleton too. These people are prob in over their head and its by design. They dont lead the country after all.


And you overestimate the amount of people that would have to be in on this. Many could act along accordingly while believing what theyre doing is good, this is where the CIA funding and training Abajeen or whatever fighters comes into play, for example. Mobilizing them. You work up someone like Bin Laden, its an easy sell to many Islamists to do what they did.

The stuff at the airport would never have had to happen.

Did anyone at the airport actually witness these guys? Any witness accounts?
They did find wreckage of a plane at the Pentagon, including multiple eyewitness reports corroborating a story of a plane flying by and hitting the Pentagon. There were also people on the plane who called loved ones stating their plane had been hijacked, just as there were on the other 3 planes.

I feel like if they were capable of executing a plot the magnitude of 9/11, I couldn't imagine planting WMD's would be any more difficult to pull off, or hell, just producing photos and footage of WMD's somewhere else and saying they were found in Iraq. To straight up claim there were no WMD's discovered in Iraq is imo arguably the biggest blow to the conspiracy angle.

I can't think of a single benefit for them to do that if their agenda was to orchestrate these attacks as a pretense for invading Iraq, then after riling up the country with fears Iraq had weapons, to then say they didn't. I would genuinely like to hear an argument for why they would do this.

In addition to this, if they wanted to shoehorn Iraq into this, why didn't they have a single of the 19 hijackers come from Iraq, how would it benefit their plot to have the vast majority of them be Saudi instead of Iraqi?

I don't disagree regarding Bush on 9/11, it's honestly not a huge factor, I just feel like you'd want to be as lowkey as possible, and keep your patsy out of public view the morning you're planning these attacks.

As for people witnessing the hijackers at the airport, I really don't think they'd be noticeable to anybody. These guys took early morning flights on relatively empty planes, they were wearing normal business clothes, it's not like they'd really stick out to anybody. There are photos/videos of the hijackers going through security as well.

In regards to Bin Laden, Al Qaeda had conducted attacks on US embassies in Africa and a US naval vessel previously, so they had been on the US's radar prior to 9/11. Do you believe he was working with the US through those attacks as well, that they were a prelude for what they were planning on 9/11? And what do you make of the WTC bombing in '95, do you think that was also perpetrated by the government?

[jstern]

Planting WMD's is not that easy. From what I could remember, they probably tried with the B-52H bomber nuclear weapon incident, back in 2007.

And it's a very deep memory, but I'm 90% sure that some 5 or so US soldier were exposed to nuclear radiation as they tried to sneak it in to Iraq, back in around 2005. And such a thing is not going to get reported on in the news. I remember very clearing feeling bad that these 5 or so US soldier were ****ed due to nuclear radiation poisoning, but at the same time understanding that they were doing something bad.

I could track it down, but I would have to do an RRR3 level of digging around that would probably require hours.

[Bill Gates]

Planting some chemical weapons in Iraq would be infinitely easier than staging 9/11. Like literally 1,000x easier. They wouldn't even have to be real. No one thought they had nukes.

[Bill Gates]

Some of you don't really understand the depth that the conspiracy would have to go. Funerals for all the pilots happened. So either the Gov convinced those pilots to commit mass murder suicide of 2 thousand others, or they created fake families and staged fake funerals. Hundreds of actors, with fake social media posts. And if the planes were flown remote into the buildings? Then the airlines and airport would have to be in on it. And how did the plane personnel not notice there were no pilots?

And that is just one small facet of all this. Not even touching what would be involved in rigging everything up without entire buildings of people noticing.



I can buy that there are evil people that would kill thousands for whatever gain. But I can not buy that there are hundreds of those all collaborating together and over the course of 25 years not a single peep.

[warriorfan]

Planting some chemical weapons in Iraq would be infinitely easier than staging 9/11. Like literally 1,000x easier. They wouldn't even have to be real. No one thought they had nukes.

They needed to up the ante to fast track the Patriot act and NSA. This wasn’t just about an excuse for war.


Some of you don't really understand the depth that the conspiracy would have to go. Funerals for all the pilots happened. So either the Gov convinced those pilots to commit mass murder suicide of 2 thousand others, or they created fake families and staged fake funerals. Hundreds of actors, with fake social media posts. And if the planes were flown remote into the buildings? Then the airlines and airport would have to be in on it. And how did the plane personnel not notice there were no pilots?

And that is just one small facet of all this. Not even touching what would be involved in rigging everything up without entire buildings of people noticing.



I can buy that there are evil people that would kill thousands for whatever gain. But I can not buy that there are hundreds of those all collaborating together and over the course of 25 years not a single peep.

This is a hilarious brain dead straw man post. “I dont know how people did something so therefor it’s impossible!”


Pretty sure theres lots of problems you aren’t able to figure out and solve, doesn’t automatically make them impossible.

[ArbitraryWater]

They did find wreckage of a plane at the Pentagon, including multiple eyewitness reports corroborating a story of a plane flying by and hitting the Pentagon. There were also people on the plane who called loved ones stating their plane had been hijacked, just as there were on the other 3 planes.

I feel like if they were capable of executing a plot the magnitude of 9/11, I couldn't imagine planting WMD's would be any more difficult to pull off, or hell, just producing photos and footage of WMD's somewhere else and saying they were found in Iraq. To straight up claim there were no WMD's discovered in Iraq is imo arguably the biggest blow to the conspiracy angle.

I can't think of a single benefit for them to do that if their agenda was to orchestrate these attacks as a pretense for invading Iraq, then after riling up the country with fears Iraq had weapons, to then say they didn't. I would genuinely like to hear an argument for why they would do this.

In addition to this, if they wanted to shoehorn Iraq into this, why didn't they have a single of the 19 hijackers come from Iraq, how would it benefit their plot to have the vast majority of them be Saudi instead of Iraqi?

I don't disagree regarding Bush on 9/11, it's honestly not a huge factor, I just feel like you'd want to be as lowkey as possible, and keep your patsy out of public view the morning you're planning these attacks.

As for people witnessing the hijackers at the airport, I really don't think they'd be noticeable to anybody. These guys took early morning flights on relatively empty planes, they were wearing normal business clothes, it's not like they'd really stick out to anybody. There are photos/videos of the hijackers going through security as well.

In regards to Bin Laden, Al Qaeda had conducted attacks on US embassies in Africa and a US naval vessel previously, so they had been on the US's radar prior to 9/11. Do you believe he was working with the US through those attacks as well, that they were a prelude for what they were planning on 9/11? And what do you make of the WTC bombing in '95, do you think that was also perpetrated by the government?


I mean, that was silly enough to begin with, right? Associating Iraq with the attack.

Netanyahu said infront of congress that there is no question Hussein is linked to the attack and is developing WMDs.

So they went for it either way.


They made it seem plausible that there might be. It was important to establish a connection and to say hed plan to, and they did.

They got their oil and destabilized the region, mission accomplished. And still have the terror bogeyman.

The fact there werent any Iraqis themselves on the planes might not have been so easy to control and Al Qaeda didnt represent any country to begin with.

If Bin laden was worked up to act in their best interests, its very plausible those things happened under their watch somewhat, as well, of course.

I cant speak on his colleagues, but thats the good part about it for the CIA, they wouldnt even have had to be in on it, as motivation could be easily found, just intelligence and funds would have to be supplied their way.

So its kind of along the lines with Israel funding Hamas and Netanyahu doing his best to keep Hamas alive and going.

Cant say I know too much about the 95 bombing, Id say its real, could just be not the right time/plan yet to move forward with what they planned to do (invade Iraq and such).


I do feel like im playing somewhat devils advocate at this point. Im not certain either way.


There is plenty of sketchy stuff for either version.


The Pentagon damages look downright goofy for a plane at that size, perfectly landing in the first floor? I saw a video with many experts doubting its authenticity.

[ArbitraryWater]

They needed to up the ante to fast track the Patriot act and NSA. This wasn’t just about an excuse for war.


Good look.

Yea I can only assume there was more at stake here.

[90sgoat]

I thought it was well known that Bin Laden was a CIA asset that turned on his former benefactorers. Didn't he fight for the Mujahedin in the 80s against the Soviets?

I believe that the twin towers were hit by planes, but probably brought down by Mossad exposives.

[Bill Gates]

This is a hilarious brain dead straw man post. “I dont know how people did something so therefor it’s impossible!”


Pretty sure theres lots of problems you aren’t able to figure out and solve, doesn’t automatically make them impossible.

I never said impossible but no matter how you shake it would be beyond difficult. There were hundreds of people involved and lots of moving parts and events.

Brain dead would be putting on a tin foil hat and saying it was all staged without even taking into consideration what that implies.

[ArbitraryWater]

Khalid al-Mihdhar and Nawaf al-Hazmi, 2 of the 19 hijackers, rented places from an FBI informant.
https://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/06/us/threats-responses-inquiry-congress-seeks-fbi-data-informer-fbi-resists.html

[ArbitraryWater]

https://odysee.com/@TheSearch4Truth:8/8332383120942306124:4


8 pretty interesting minutes

[jstern]

They needed to up the ante to fast track the Patriot act and NSA. This wasn’t just about an excuse for war.



This is a hilarious brain dead straw man post. “I dont know how people did something so therefor it’s impossible!”


Pretty sure theres lots of problems you aren’t able to figure out and solve, doesn’t automatically make them impossible.

I read his (somewhat low IQ) post and left, and that was precisely what I was thinking about his posts.

I was thinking of Off the Court and people who can't imagine how certain things were done, therefore it's impossible. And how they are able to completely dismiss significant things, simply because their feeble mind can't imagine things being done in any other way than how they imagine it should go.

At least he's now starting to buy that there are evil people who would kill thousands for whatever gain.


https://odysee.com/@TheSearch4Truth:8/8332383120942306124:4


8 pretty interesting minutes

The link is not working.

[ArbitraryWater]

I read his (somewhat low IQ) post and left, and that was precisely what I was thinking about his posts.

I was thinking of Off the Court and people who can't imagine how certain things were done, therefore it's impossible. And how they are able to completely dismiss significant things, simply because their feeble mind can't imagine things being done in any other way than how they imagine it should go.

At least he's now starting to buy that there are evil people who would kill thousands for whatever gain.



The link is not working.


It is for me but try googling "Tim Osman CIA Operative Truth", an Odyssey link shows up for me (ironically not when I add odyssey). Or just look it up on Odyssey.

[ArbitraryWater]

So is everyone who considers it legit or unsure buying the Building 7 explanation?

[ArbitraryWater]

So I stumbled upon something interesting...


I saw the 2001 post 9/11 video of Bin Laden speaking with Khaled al-Harbi and other associates and apparenty taking credit for 9/11, as the subtites woud have you beieve anyway.


Heres the entire thing:
https://www.c-span.org/video/?167830-1/bin-laden-videotape


However:


https://i.gyazo.com/f82079d60facc95970d28e8aef9a7265.png



The fact theyre just recording themselves having this conversation, and the tape is then found, whole thing is kinda fishy.

And why did they release this so quickly.


(none the less he took credit in 2004)

[Patrick Chewing]

Iraq had yellow cake.

[RRR3]

Iraq had yellow cake.
You’re an expert on cake.

[Patrick Chewing]

You’re an expert on cake.

Not really. It was a funny comment based on the current discussion that references a part of a Dave Chappelle skit from years ago.

[SouBeachTalents]

Not really. It was a funny comment based on the current discussion that references a part of a Dave Chappelle skit from years ago.
Don't drop that shit.

[ArbitraryWater]

So is everyone who considers it legit or not sure buying the Building 7 explanation?

[Nanners]

The organization that originally trained bin laden is the same organization that orchestrated 9/11

[ArbitraryWater]

The organization that originally trained bin laden is the same organization that orchestrated 9/11

Id tend to agree, but there are of course disputes regarding there ever having been said training.

[tpols]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTyJ2452xm3Vd8wslfLJx_7ccyhlr_CP jMdmw&usqp=CAU

[Nanners]

Id tend to agree, but there are of course disputes regarding there ever having been said training.

Who exactly disputes this fact?

The organization that did the training? The organizations assets in the mainstream media?

I havent seen very much dispute over bin ladens training

[tpols]

2. If they went through all the trouble to carry out this attack to murder 3000 civilians, why wouldn't they just plant WMD's in Iraq to justify their invasion? That honestly makes zero sense, and I'd love to hear an explanation for why they would do this.

There were multiple enemies of the USA that have nukes and uranium enrichment facilities. Russia and Iran for starters.

How many times has the public been warned about our enemies having nukes? A million times from 1950-1990. That doesn't move the needle.

The emotional impact of our greatest city having its biggest buildings blown up? That generates a tremendous emotional response from the public. Not really that hard to figure out.




3. Why would they schedule Bush to be at an elementary school the morning of the attack? You could argue it makes it seem like they were that unprepared for the attack, but I don't see a real benefit to having him recorded live while the events are going on.



You already answered your own question. :oldlol:

[Nanners]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzzcBOo_bV8

Anybody who thinks that this attack was orchestrated by Bin Laden or any other sand person is beyond gullible

[ArbitraryWater]

Who exactly disputes this fact?

The organization that did the training? The organizations assets in the mainstream media?

I havent seen very much dispute over bin ladens training

Haha, thats far from a fact.

The official story is that they funded them to support their fighting the soviets.


Whats your evidence they trained Bin laden?

Im all for it.

[ArbitraryWater]

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTyJ2452xm3Vd8wslfLJx_7ccyhlr_CP jMdmw&usqp=CAU

This wasnt as told, politics though.

[1987_Lakers]

Has anybody mentioned Building 7 yet?

[ArbitraryWater]

So is everyone who considers it legit or not sure buying the Building 7 explanation?


I asked about it