Kamala Harris-Donald Trump Debate Was Rigged? ABC Whistleblower Comes Forward

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.timesnownews.com/world/us/us-news/kamala-harris-donald-trump-debate-was-rigged-abc-whistleblower-claims-surface-article-113302886

A self-proclaimed whistleblower announced that they will release an affidavit claiming the Kamala Harris-Donald Trump debate was rigged. The social media users added that the Democratic nominee's campaign was give sample questions that were 'essentially the same questions that were given during the debate' as well as assurances that Trump would be 'fact-checked'.

A self-proclaimed whistleblower announced that they will release an affidavit claiming the Kamala Harris-Donald Trump debate was rigged. The social media users added that the Democratic nominee's campaign was give sample questions that were 'essentially the same questions that were given during the debate' as well as assurances that Trump would be 'fact-checked'.
There is no evidence, backing the claims, available as of now.
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"I will be releasing an affidavit from an ABC whistleblower regarding the debate. I have just signed a non-disclosure agreement with the attorney of the whistleblower. The affidavit states how the Harris campaign was given sample question which were essentially the same questions that were given during the debate and separate assurances of fact checking Donald Trump and that she would NOT be fact checked," one person claimed on X, platform formerly known as Twitter.

[diamenz]

of course it was rigged. trump knows this going into every debate on a liberal network. the question becomes what is he going to do with it? 2016 trump would flip the script on them. last night, he whiffed.

[tontoz]

Harris didn't answer a lot of the questions. Pretty sure she completely dodged the first question she was asked. I don't see how knowing the questions would have any relevance at all. It isn't like the questions weren't predictable.

[RRR3]

THEY CANT DO THIS TO HIM! NOT MY TRUMPY BOY. NOT MY TRUMPY BOY!!!!! :cry:
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Patrick Chewing]

The female moderator and Kamala were sorority sisters.

Democrats have no other options but to cheat in order to beat Trump.

[BigKobeFan]

https://www.timesnownews.com/world/us/us-news/kamala-harris-donald-trump-debate-was-rigged-abc-whistleblower-claims-surface-article-113302886

A self-proclaimed whistleblower announced that they will release an affidavit claiming the Kamala Harris-Donald Trump debate was rigged. The social media users added that the Democratic nominee's campaign was give sample questions that were 'essentially the same questions that were given during the debate' as well as assurances that Trump would be 'fact-checked'.

A self-proclaimed whistleblower announced that they will release an affidavit claiming the Kamala Harris-Donald Trump debate was rigged. The social media users added that the Democratic nominee's campaign was give sample questions that were 'essentially the same questions that were given during the debate' as well as assurances that Trump would be 'fact-checked'.
There is no evidence, backing the claims, available as of now.
Read More: Want To Have Dinner With Donald Trump? This Site Claims It'll Cost You...
"I will be releasing an affidavit from an ABC whistleblower regarding the debate. I have just signed a non-disclosure agreement with the attorney of the whistleblower. The affidavit states how the Harris campaign was given sample question which were essentially the same questions that were given during the debate and separate assurances of fact checking Donald Trump and that she would NOT be fact checked," one person claimed on X, platform formerly known as Twitter.

Of course it was. She sounded scripted. But but but. According to theTacoMan, people practice

[1987_Lakers]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

https://media1.tenor.com/m/_7i41E6p0rgAAAAC/look-how-they-massacred-my-boy-meme.gif

[RRR3]

https://media.tenor.com/MIJwx1HESvQAAAAM/baby-baby-crying.gif
:lol

[TheMan]

Of course it was. She sounded scripted. But but but. According to theTacoMan, people practice

BigKobeFan rn :cry:

[SouBeachTalents]

I genuinely don't understand this complaint, I think anyone who follows politics knows what questions are going to e asked beforehand, I can't fathom the candidates wouldn't know as well. It's going to be the same shit they always ask about; the economy, abortion, immigration, healthcare, foreign policy etc. I'm sure Trump knew beforehand he was going to be asked about things like January 6th & the 2020 election. He had a really bad performance where he rambled on about executing babies and eating pets, you can't blame that on the moderators, that's on him.

[Patrick Chewing]

I genuinely don't understand this complaint, I think anyone who follows politics knows what questions are going to e asked beforehand, I can't fathom the candidates wouldn't know as well. It's going to be the same shit they always ask about; the economy, abortion, immigration, healthcare, foreign policy etc. I'm sure Trump knew beforehand he was going to be asked about things like January 6th & the 2020 election. He had a really bad performance where he rambled on about executing babies and eating pets, you can't blame that on the moderators, that's on him.

I don’t think that has ever been the norm for candidates to get the questions beforehand.

[RRR3]

I genuinely don't understand this complaint, I think anyone who follows politics knows what questions are going to e asked beforehand, I can't fathom the candidates wouldn't know as well. It's going to be the same shit they always ask about; the economy, abortion, immigration, healthcare, foreign policy etc. I'm sure Trump knew beforehand he was going to be asked about things like January 6th & the 2020 election. He had a really bad performance where he rambled on about executing babies and eating pets, you can't blame that on the moderators, that's on him.
Trump is also just a terrible debater in general, he got to look good against Biden because Biden literally can barely remember his own name.

[RRR3]

I don’t think that has ever been the norm for candidates to get the questions beforehand.
https://fair.org/wp-content/uploads/2005/01/Bush-Hump.jpg

[SouBeachTalents]

Trump is also just a terrible debater in general, he got to look good against Biden because Biden literally can barely remember his own name.
He actually was good in 2016, he demolished Jeb and his Republican opponents in the primary, then after the pussay tape came out and his campaign was in absolute free fall, with Republicans even calling on him to step down, he actually started to resurrect his campaign by defeating Hillary in the following debate.

Since then though, he has not been on his game. He had the trainwreck 4 years ago where he could not stop interrupting Biden, and it'd be hard to give him credit last time when he was basically facing a Special Olympics opponent. Last night he was very bad, but luckily for him, I don't think these debates play that big a role in deciding these elections.

I said it last night, that sadly, Swift's endorsement will probably hurt Trump more than his debate performance.

[1987_Lakers]

I genuinely don't understand this complaint, I think anyone who follows politics knows what questions are going to e asked beforehand, I can't fathom the candidates wouldn't know as well. It's going to be the same shit they always ask about; the economy, abortion, immigration, healthcare, foreign policy etc. I'm sure Trump knew beforehand he was going to be asked about things like January 6th & the 2020 election. He had a really bad performance where he rambled on about executing babies and eating pets, you can't blame that on the moderators, that's on him.

Why won't she do interviews if it's so easy?

[highwhey]

i bet it's the same guy that said his source at mcodnald's corporate didn't have records of kamala ever working at mcds. totally verifiable, totally true because someone on the internet said so.

[RRR3]

i bet it's the same guy that said his source at mcodnald's corporate didn't have records of kamala ever working at mcds. totally verifiable, totally true because someone on the internet said so.
Legit OP's thinking process

[SouBeachTalents]

Why won't she do interviews if it's so easy?
Even as someone who can admit Kamala's done much better than I ever expected her to when she took over as the nominee, the smart play is to have her continue to avoid interviews. She did fine in her CNN one and the debate last night, but she can only hurt her stock by continuing to do interviews. It's the correct strategy to keep her out of public view as much as possible until the election.

[TheMan]

Even as someone who can admit Kamala's done much better than I ever expected her to when she took over as the nominee, the smart play is to have her continue to avoid interviews. She did fine in her CNN one and the debate last night, but she can only hurt her stock by continuing to do interviews. It's the correct strategy to keep her out of public view as much as possible until the election.

Or she can do what Trump does when he goes on FOX NEWS, she can go to MSNBC where they'll handle her with kid gloves.

[RRR3]

Or she can do what Trump does when he goes on FOX NEWS, she can go to MSNBC where they'll handle her with kid gloves.
How would that help her? Everyone who watches MSNBC is already voting for her.

[TheMan]

How would that help her? Everyone who watches MSNBC is already voting for her.

It gets rid of the narrative that she's avoiding interviews.

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNeLmBpuGbo

[1987_Lakers]

None of this is confirmed, but you have actual people in here saying having the questions beforehand isn't some sort of an advantage. How far have we fallen as a society?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G3noH2ZKHY&t

[diamenz]

None of this is confirmed, but you have actual people in here saying having the questions beforehand isn't some sort of an advantage. How far have we fallen as a society?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G3noH2ZKHY&t

having the questions beforehand?

who would have thought the moderators would bring up immigration, the economy, ukraine, jan 6, abortion and all of the other hot-button issues? because if you go in there unprepared for those topics then i have a bridge to sell you.

trump whiffed - face the music. don't let him manipulate you with his finger-pointing because that's all you're gonna hear from him for the next week. dude is washed. he's celtics shaq.

[1987_Lakers]

trump whiffed - face the music. don't let him manipulate you with his finger-pointing because that's all you're gonna hear from him for the next week.

https://media1.tenor.com/m/h0_hvHSrziMAAAAC/trump-wrong.gif


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMvbA4d8Te4&t

[diamenz]

https://media1.tenor.com/m/h0_hvHSrziMAAAAC/trump-wrong.gif


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMvbA4d8Te4&t

you're going to link me to a fox news video? how would you feel if i linked you to a msnbc video? get outta here with that shit. whiffed.

[1987_Lakers]

you're going to link me to a fox news video? how would you feel if i linked you to a msnbc video? get outta here with that shit. whiffed.

Oh really?

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/11/us/politics/undecided-voters-react-debate.html

[TheMan]

https://media1.tenor.com/m/h0_hvHSrziMAAAAC/trump-wrong.gif


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMvbA4d8Te4&t

Jesus bro, what happened to you?

[RRR3]

Jesus bro, what happened to you?
Brainwashed by alt-right youtube videos, he was too mentally weak to resist :(

[jstern]

https://media1.tenor.com/m/h0_hvHSrziMAAAAC/trump-wrong.gif


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMvbA4d8Te4&t

My favorite part of the video is at 13:26. When after 13 minutes of many of the people talking about the problems in the country, tangible problems, economy, border, crime, etc, the Kamala Harris supporter, with a big smile says that one of the most powerful moments of the debate was when Kamala Harris said that she's going to lead from a place of, "Are you ok?" And that it reminds of her of a civil rights icon who says, "Where does it hurt?"

These people are children, mentally. Judging by the smile that she puts on, I'm assuming that is a type of virtue signalling type of talk in her circle of friends.

It was just fascinating. So basically, theoretically, a con man can get her vote, as long as he says such meaningless things.

I guess she means well, like Burning Hammer.

And then later on, she says that Kamala is so great because she invited a gun prevention quorum so that they could come to the White House and say, "What can we do about this?"

Again, it's all about theater, signaling, a show, and nothing about anything coming out of it.

[highwhey]

My favorite part of the video is at 13:26. When after 13 minutes of many of the people talking about the problems in the country, tangible problems, economy, border, crime, etc, the Kamala Harris supporter, with a big smile says that one of the most powerful moments of the debate was when Kamala Harris said that she's going to lead from a place of, "Are you ok?" And that it reminds of her of a civil rights icon who says, "Where does it hurt?"

These people are children, mentally. Judging by the smile that she puts on, I'm assuming that is a type of virtue signalling type of talk in her circle of friends.

It was just fascinating. So basically, theoretically, a con man can get her vote, as long as he says such meaningless things.

I guess she means well, like Burning Hammer.

And then later on, she says that Kamala is so great because she invited a gun prevention quorum so that they could come to the White House and say, "What can we do about this?"

Again, it's all about theater, signaling, a show, and nothing about anything coming out of it.

it's time jstern, try therapy out

https://st.depositphotos.com/1518767/2572/i/950/depositphotos_25725773-stock-photo-therapist-comforting-a-patient.jpg

[Media Moderator]

Democrats and the mainstream media would NEVER do such a thing....to Trump....again.....




https://youtu.be/irj8JvfRkIg?si=SQO-3Q6HtKifIDJ-

[TheMan]

Brainwashed by alt-right youtube videos, he was too mentally weak to resist :(

I disagreed a lot with him on hoops but other than when he's clearly trolling, always seemed like a clear thinking dude. Now he's turned into a far right conspiracy nut.

[RRR3]

I disagreed a lot with him on hoops but other than when he's clearly trolling, always seemed like a clear thinking dude. Now he's turned into a far right conspiracy nut.
Probably got brainwashed by the videos the Trumpies post here ngl

[ILLsmak]

None of this is confirmed, but you have actual people in here saying having the questions beforehand isn't some sort of an advantage. How far have we fallen as a society?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G3noH2ZKHY&t

I mean, you saw what happened. There were three debate questions that were complete attacks on Trump. They were trick questions: do you admit you lost, what about j6, and 'race and politics' which is really just, Kamala is black or nah?? Then they had questions where the moderators said more of substance about her viewpoint than she did. They chimed in to help her. It was obviously meant to be that way. The idea of having the questions is not nearly as important as that. All you had to do was watch to see that. I think w/ Trump debates though, when you watch it, it's like ah ok. I've always felt he ****ed up in debates, and then you watch it later and you see what happened and realize it's not that bad. It's basically the same shit now except they have some new soundbytes and he continues to outdo himself with saying wild shit.

The problem is that he likely had a chance to end her and he didn't. He could have come in sharp and bodied her. This may very well lose him the election because he had momentum and now they are going to be able to say he ducked another debate. I feel like she has almost no chance to win in the election because of how bad she is. There is so much to dislike about her and Biden was a good anti-Trump choice because he was inoffensive to many. Kamala is not. She is grating.

But I can't believe Trump failed so hard at the debate. I don't think he failed as we think of it. It's kind of like the Kamala thing and everything surrounding that. I can only believe they are trying to do wild shit. In the same way, Trump came in on that shit. He did not do what people told him, which is let her talk. He said a bunch of wild shit. There are no positive moments to remember on her side, just like... the facial expressions. I was a middle class girl! It's all just wild shit Trump said. I just think at this point it was the wrong strategy because he has done that so many times. He doesn't even need to act it out again. People have it resonating in their mind. Of course, I dunno what people think who aren't familiar with Trump haha.

The general vibe of watching Trump debate in real time is WHAT THE ****, but like I said, if you go back and watch it after it cools off, you'll realize he was trying to do something, and sometimes it's actually funny like the Hillary stuff. But he went in way too hard and kept repeating shit that everyone knows. He did not take the chance to let her expose herself. But to be fair she did want to deliver a bunch of scripted shit. Still, I say he performed poorly, and I bet they all have the questions before hand haha. The lay out of the debate though was favorable to her. Still, no excuses.

-Smak

[1987_Lakers]

Jesus bro, what happened to you?

Do you blame me? The real question is what happened to the Democratic party? Vaccine passports, funding the Ukraine War, backing gender change on kids, censorship, conspiring against Bernie & RFK Jr for elitists Hillary & Biden.

[tpols]

Well yea I mean if you watch the debate the moderators would press, hound, and "fact check" Trump every time he speaks but they weren't doing that for Kamala at all. It's like a basketball game where the other team gets 50 FTs and you get none.

[TheMan]

Do you blame me? The real question is what happened to the Democratic party? Vaccine passports, funding the Ukraine War, backing gender change on kids, censorship, conspiring against Bernie & RFK Jr for elitists Hillary & Biden.

Bro, I no longer identify as a Democrat and I come from a family of Midwest union members but that doesn't mean I'm going to run towards the fringe either but you do you :cheers:

[tpols]

Even as someone who can admit Kamala's done much better than I ever expected her to when she took over as the nominee, the smart play is to have her continue to avoid interviews. She did fine in her CNN one and the debate last night, but she can only hurt her stock by continuing to do interviews. It's the correct strategy to keep her out of public view as much as possible until the election.

That just proves she's a horrible candidate then. So they have to basically hide her so she doesn't reveal her true colors?

Lol. Yall are cowards.

[Off the Court]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXUrEmtbgAQHN4X?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Off the Court]

lol the questions were a given

-inflation
-immigration
-abortion



EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY already knew the questions beforehand.

[Off the Court]

That just proves she's a horrible candidate then. So they have to basically hide her so she doesn't reveal her true colors?

Lol. Yall are cowards.

This hasn't been the case with her at all and it's the opposite of what SBT is suggesting.

When she "hides" her stock goes down, when she speaks the polls react positive for her. She needs to do as many rallies and as many debates as she possibly can. And her team knows that which is why she just did 2 rallies in North Carolina and is requesting another debate with Trump (to which he said no)

[Patrick Chewing]

Bro, I no longer identify as a Democrat and I come from a family of Midwest union members but that doesn't mean I'm going to run towards the fringe either but you do you :cheers:

Could have fooled me.

[Hey Yo]

50+ days without a presser to take questions.

[1987_Lakers]

Could have fooled me.

This.

The funny thing is, the people who claim they are no longer Democrats still get triggered when you bad mouth Harris or say anything positive about Trump.

I'm a registered independent who leaned democrat for most of my life until the last few years.

[Patrick Chewing]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GXUrEmtbgAQHN4X?format=jpg&name=900x900

You said the same thing in 2016 when Trump won so I'm not sure what you're proving here. You were under a different username back then too: MaxFly

[Overdrive]

Yeah, rigged. Let's take it to Fox; then it's absolutely not rigged.

Or do a Truth livestream.

Half of you guys eat up everything from Fox to Breitbart and rightwing SM groups, while the other half does the same with lib media and social media. There's no "objective" truth any of you guys follows, but some of you do believe so.

You won't believe statements by official sources, but some dude sitting in a basement in Idaho doing a YT vid is a credible enough source.

[Patrick Chewing]

Yeah, rigged. Let's take it to Fox; then it's absolutely not rigged.

Or do a Truth livestream.

Half of you guys eat up everything from Fox to Breitbart and rightwing SM groups, while the other half does the same with lib media and social media. There's no "objective" truth any of you guys follows, but some of you do believe so.

You won't believe statements by official sources, but some dude sitting in a basement in Idaho doing a YT vid is a credible enough source.

You're right, every major news network has treated Trump fairly since 2016. :rolleyes:

[Off the Court]

https://x.com/RedTRaccoon/status/1834395780938858522

Kamala yesterday, full capacity 20k crowd


"she stays hidden"

[RRR3]

Yeah, rigged. Let's take it to Fox; then it's absolutely not rigged.

Or do a Truth livestream.

Half of you guys eat up everything from Fox to Breitbart and rightwing SM groups, while the other half does the same with lib media and social media. There's no "objective" truth any of you guys follows, but some of you do believe so.

You won't believe statements by official sources, but some dude sitting in a basement in Idaho doing a YT vid is a credible enough source.
All major media is intensely partisan. Jacobin is pretty good for an independent source though but no one here is interested in that because socialism scary.

[tpols]

Bro, I no longer identify as a Democrat and I come from a family of Midwest union members but that doesn't mean I'm going to run towards the fringe either but you do you :cheers:

You're a Mexican liberal whose always hated Trump. And that's fine. It's just kind of funny most legal American Latinos support him because they work hard and keep it real and are traditional people who aren't with all the wierdo shit the left pushes.

It's only the illegals that have their votes bought and paid for since they know it's their meal ticket. They don't even agree with any of the policies aside from the fact they can be let in for free and milk the system.

The ironic part is Mexicans in Mexico totally stand up against the poorer people from central and south America coming up to their country. They literally hate them. :lol

[Patrick Chewing]

https://x.com/RedTRaccoon/status/1834395780938858522

Kamala yesterday, full capacity 20k crowd


"she stays hidden"

Why won't she sit in front of a camera and answer questions? What are her policies? Who is she? Why has she flip-flopped on so many issues like a border wall and fracking?


She doesn't get challenged at rallies you dork.

[AlternativeAcc.]

Could have fooled me.

Lol, he's a fat Mexican libtard. At least the other nerds own up to it, but he's trying to play some middle ground while melting down about trump every day. Not a very bright guy. :oldlol:

[Hey Yo]

https://x.com/RedTRaccoon/status/1834395780938858522

Kamala yesterday, full capacity 20k crowd


"she stays hidden behind teleprompters"
Finished the sentence for ya.

[Off the Court]

Why won't she sit in front of a camera and answer questions? What are her policies? Who is she? Why has she flip-flopped on so many issues like a border wall and fracking?


She doesn't get challenged at rallies you dork.

She literally answered all of that in the debate lol

[RRR3]

Honestly if your reason for moving away from the Democrats is “they’re woke!!!!1!!1!” and not “they’re corrupt warmongers who hate the working class” you’re a ****ing idiot who is completely falling for bait from the right wing media. People should leave the Democratic Party but not because they virtue signal towards trans people occasionally or whatever ffs.

[Patrick Chewing]

She literally answered all of that in the debate lol

:roll:


You must have watched the wrong debate, Max.

[Off the Court]

Honestly if your reason for moving away from the Democrats is “they’re woke!!!!1!!1!” and not “they’re corrupt warmongers who hate the working class” you’re a ****ing idiot who is completely falling for bait from the right wing media. People should leave the Democratic Party but not because they virtue signal towards trans people occasionally or whatever ffs.

But wokeness is killing us all R3, did you see what they did to Aunt Jemima?

And there are black people all over commercials and women in Star Wars, we simply can't live like this any more!

[1987_Lakers]

Honestly if your reason for moving away from the Democrats is “they’re woke!!!!1!!1!” and not “they’re corrupt warmongers who hate the working class” you’re a ****ing idiot who is completely falling for bait from the right wing media. People should leave the Democratic Party but not because they virtue signal towards trans people occasionally or whatever ffs.

Funding the Ukraine War is right wing propaganda?

Supporting kids to change their gender is right wing propaganda?

These are basic facts.

[Off the Court]

Funding the Ukraine War is right wing propaganda?

Supporting kids to change their gender is right wing propaganda?

These are basic facts.

"kids" getting gender surgery is definitely BS propaganda. It's illegal in every state. You can probably pull up a few examples of mishaps here and there but it isn't a real thing the nation is facing. Do you know any minors that had gender surgery? No you don't

[1987_Lakers]

Disgusting

https://thehill.com/homenews/education/4780008-california-transgender-student-protections-newsom/#:~:text=Gavin%20Newsom%20signed%20a%20law,to%20ch ange%20their%20gender%20identification.

Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) signed a law this week saying teachers could not be required to tell parents about a student’s name or pronoun changes in most circumstances, leading to at least one district filing a lawsuit and tech billionaire Elon Musk announcing he would pull his businesses out of the state.

"If we let this stuff go too far, sooner or later we will be fvcking dogs" - Tony Soprano

[Patrick Chewing]

But wokeness is killing us all R3, did you see what they did to Aunt Jemima?

And there are black people all over commercials and women in Star Wars, we simply can't live like this any more!

Wokeness divides us. Because people like you will find a problem with everything for the sake of feeling special and thinking that you accomplished something great. Virtue signaling.


Hardly any of these new woke directions have led to success. Pearl Milling Company or whatever they're called is down and they just axed that gay female Star Wars show.

[RRR3]

Funding the Ukraine War is right wing propaganda?

Supporting kids to change their gender is right wing propaganda?

These are basic facts.
Remember when you literally ran away and hid when you couldn't respond to JFK being an imperialist monster in Brazil and RFK Sr literally getting killed for his imperialism? After you insisted they were anti-imperialism? :lol

Don't try to argue with me when you literally run away when I burst your bubble on your propagandized narrative. If you were a free thinker you would admit you were wrong about those things, but nope here you are spewing more propaganda.

[Off the Court]

Another thing is that wokeness and transgenderism is a societal issue and not an issue that Trump or any POTUS can do anything about.

I mean does anyone think that if Trump is elected that suddenly wokeness goes away and everyone is straight?

[1987_Lakers]

"kids" getting gender surgery is definitely BS propaganda. It's illegal in every state. You can probably pull up a few examples of mishaps here and there but it isn't a real thing the nation is facing. Do you know any minors that had gender surgery? No you don't

You don't know how the world works. This is how it starts, baby steps. Democrats will support fvcking animals in 10 years with this pace.

[RRR3]

Another thing is that wokeness and transgenderism is a societal issue and not an issue that Trump or any POTUS can do anything about.

I mean does anyone think that if Trump is elected that suddenly wokeness goes away and everyone is straight?
No but a lot of them hope Trump will kill trans people, even if they won't say it out loud.

[RRR3]

You don't know how the world works. This is how it starts, baby steps. Democrats will support fvcking animals in 10 years with this pace.
^hysterical fox news propaganda, completely brainwashed pea brain response, still desperately avoiding the Kennedy stuff because it destroyed his precious narrative.

[Off the Court]

You don't know how the world works. This is how it starts, baby steps. Democrats will support fvcking animals in 10 years with this pace.

This is exactly more BS propaganda

Better hide your cat before someone eats it

[1987_Lakers]

Remember when you literally ran away and hid when you couldn't respond to JFK being an imperialist monster in Brazil and RFK Sr literally getting killed for his imperialism? After you insisted they were anti-imperialism? :lol

Don't try to argue with me when you literally run away when I burst your bubble on your propagandized narrative. If you were a free thinker you would admit you were wrong about those things, but nope here you are spewing more propaganda.

Remember when you said JFK wasn't trying to get us out of Vietnam and I showed you actual evidence that he was trying to get us out of Vietnam before our Government whacked him? You ran away after I said that screaming "existence is pain".

[RRR3]

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THEY'RE TRANSING THE KIDS! THEY'RE EATING CATS AND DOGS!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!! I'M AN 80S CHURCH MOM WHO THINKS METALLICA IS SATANIC!!!!!! BTW I AM SOMEHOW A REBEL

[RRR3]

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Unhinged conspiracy videos are not evidence, and even if that were true, you still were literally helpless in terms of responding to his imperialism in Brazil. You literally didn't know about it. And you're STILL dodging the RFK stuff. You're not a free thinker or you'd be willing to consider this stuff.

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUVWqkMQLGM&t

[RRR3]

this is exactly more bs propaganda

better hide your cat before someone eats it
the woke demmycats are marxists

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/1ffpp7p/2_years_ago/#lightbox

[RRR3]

Yeah, rigged. Let's take it to Fox; then it's absolutely not rigged.

Or do a Truth livestream.

Half of you guys eat up everything from Fox to Breitbart and rightwing SM groups, while the other half does the same with lib media and social media. There's no "objective" truth any of you guys follows, but some of you do believe so.

You won't believe statements by official sources, but some dude sitting in a basement in Idaho doing a YT vid is a credible enough source.
:roll:

I can't, this is literally 87_IQ's mind :roll:

[Hey Yo]

No but a lot of them hope Trump will kill trans people, even if they won't say it out loud.

Dumb.... speaking for people you say you have no connection with. Stick to wishing you could vote AOC for president.

[RRR3]

ME STUPID DUHHH HUHHH HURRR
:roll:

[Patrick Chewing]

You don't know how the world works. This is how it starts, baby steps. Democrats will support fvcking animals in 10 years with this pace.

I've always said this, that Democrats are the masters of the slippery slope. Look at what's happened with gender and the mutilation of children. We can now identify as whatever we want under the guise of being free and having autonomy over ourselves. So yes, what's to stop these same Democrats from saying that we're just being ourselves when we forcefully rape a poor animal. I mean, some pedophilia is already accepted by these Democrats.

[Patrick Chewing]

No but a lot of them hope Trump will kill trans people, even if they won't say it out loud.

You obviously don't know Trump people. You are so ****ing stupid. The adults are talking here, kid. Go eat a hot pocket and verbally abuse your mother some more.

[RRR3]

You obviously don't know Trump people. You are so ****ing stupid. The adults are talking here, kid. Go eat a hot pocket and verbally abuse your mother some more.
You literally threatened to throw LGBTQ people off the roof before, fats.

[Patrick Chewing]

You literally threatened to throw LGBTQ people off the roof before, fats.

yawn


Mmmmm the hot pockets are calling you RRR3. The Mountain Dew and the World of Warcraft is calling you RRR3. Leave this thread now and suffer no further embarrassment.

[RRR3]

yawn


Mmmmm the hot pockets are calling you RRR3. The Mountain Dew and the World of Warcraft is calling you RRR3. Leave this thread now and suffer no further embarrassment.
It's very interesting how you can't stop thinking about junk food. At your age and weight, it's pretty dangerous to keep eating like this, fats. Perhaps you need to see a dietary specialist and come up with a plan?

[Overdrive]

You're right, every major news network has treated Trump fairly since 2016. :rolleyes:

You're really too stupid too understand what I wrote. This goes both ways. The shit you consume doesn't give you the truth and neither does what blade consumes. You're both fooled and you both believe it's true, because it aligns with your beliefs.

Trump doesn't get treated fairly by liberal media? Surprise. Fox acts like he's some GOP deity? Surprise. Fox is mainstream media too, but you'll exclude them from your MSM rants for said reason.

[tpols]

When Trump was talking about the cats and dogs and ducks etc. he wasn't talking about Mexicans. He was talking about Haitians and the Voodoo religion... is their main religion. They perform blood sacrifices for good fortune. There are Santeria religions that do the same thing. It's barbaric religious practices that have gone on for many generations.

I was raised Catholic and recognize the Catholic church at it's top leadership is unbelievably evil. They kill, rape and steal in the name of God. These other savage practices are no different. But letting them in here is going to **** shit up. :oldlol:

I would love to see RRR3 speak to a immigrant Haitian in some of these places. One that's never been americanized. It would be absolutely ****ing hilarious. :lol

[RRR3]

When Trump was talking about the cats and dogs and ducks etc. he wasn't talking about Mexicans. He was talking about Haitians and the Voodoo religion... is their main religion. They perform blood sacrifices for good fortune. There are Santeria religions that do the same thing. It's barbaric religious practices that have gone on for many generations.

I was raised Catholic and recognize the Catholic church at it's top leadership is unbelievably evil. They kill, rape and steal in the name of God. These other savage practices are no different. But letting them in here is going to **** shit up. :oldlol:

I would love to see RRR3 speak to a immigrant Haitian in some of these places. One that's never been americanized. It would be absolutely ****ing hilarious. :lol
Typed completely unironically by a guy who eats meat.

[Patrick Chewing]

You're really too stupid too understand what I wrote. This goes both ways. The shit you consume doesn't give you the truth and neither does what blade consumes. You're both fooled and you both believe it's true, because it aligns with your beliefs.

Trump doesn't get treated fairly by liberal media? Surprise. Fox acts like he's some GOP deity? Surprise. Fox is mainstream media too, but you'll exclude them from your MSM rants for said reason.

CNN
MSNBC
ABC
CBS
NBC
PBS

are all major networks that lean Left. And you want to say one network in Fox evens the playing field? Is that what you're telling me? The same Fox that is owned by Liberals and that fired Tucker Carlson and that employs several Liberals as on-air personalities? That Fox News? :oldlol:

[warriorfan]

You obviously don't know Trump people. You are so ****ing stupid. The adults are talking here, kid. Go eat a hot pocket and verbally abuse your mother some more.


:roll: :roll:

[tpols]

Typed completely unironically by a guy who eats meat.

I dont slice their throats on an alter while saying a prayer and drinking their blood. Its... a little bit different eating for sustenance and killing / blood letting in the name of some god to bless you for the act.

[RRR3]

I dont slice their throats on an alter while saying a prayer and drinking their blood. Its... a little bit different eating for sustenance and killing / blood letting in the name of some god to bless you for the act.
You think those animals don't get eaten? Jesus you're dim. I'll take you seriously when you become vegan.

[Patrick Chewing]

Typed completely unironically by a guy who eats meat.

So you're defending the killing of animals now for voodoo blood rituals?


I mean, how much more despicable of a human being can you be? You know, we tolerated your Socialist Anarchist routine for several years. We tolerated your suicidal love notes for several years. We even tolerated backstabbing against your own religion and siding with the same people that would stomp you. But this.....this is a whole other level of evil. You need Jesus!

[RRR3]

So you're defending the killing of animals now for voodoo blood rituals?


I mean, how much more despicable of a human being can you be? You know, we tolerated your Socialist Anarchist routine for several years. We tolerated your suicidal love notes for several years. We even tolerated backstabbing against your own religion and siding with the same people that would stomp you. But this.....this is a whole other level of evil. You need Jesus!
No I don't like killing animals in general, but considering Republicans are generally obsessed with consuming meat, destroying the environment and hunting, it's pretty hypocritical to cry about it. You hate animals, that's why you love Trump.

[tpols]

So you're defending the killing of animals now for voodoo blood rituals?


I mean, how much more despicable of a human being can you be? You know, we tolerated your Socialist Anarchist routine for several years. We tolerated your suicidal love notes for several years. We even tolerated backstabbing against your own religion and siding with the same people that would stomp you. But this.....this is a whole other level of evil. You need Jesus!

:roll:

I'm sure you know about Santeria, tio. They do the same thing. But Cubans have integrated into society mostly now and aren't with that prehistoric stuff.

A lot of these illegal immigrants simply haven't. And they're causing destruction in American society.

[Norcaliblunt]

Trump has always been a controlled opposition ringer.

He’s here to lead to people towards one of the two major parties. If dude was legit he’d be running independent.

His method is interesting to say the least though. Is he throwing in the towel by saying what is perceived by most to be crazy shit? Or is he just doubling down on this extreme troll method which has got him pretty frickin far?

Idk. The bottom line is a Democrat or a Republican will our next president. lol.

[tontoz]

Where are the vids of Haitians "harvesting" all these cats? :lol How about just one?

And how are the harvesting them? Did they hire The Flash to chase them down?

[Patrick Chewing]

:roll:

I'm sure you know about Santeria, tio. They do the same thing. But Cubans have integrated into society mostly now and aren't with that prehistoric stuff.

A lot of these illegal immigrants simply haven't. And they're causing destruction in American society.

I can personally attest to this. When I lived in Miami, I had a Cuban lady that lived next door to us. Nice lady too. She was close to my grandma's age and they would talk every now and then. So one day, I'm in my backyard just throwing a baseball around and I hear this goat coming from her backyard. And I proceeded to look through the bushes into her backyard, and sure enough there was this goat tied up to a chain in her backyard. I told my grandma about it and she told me that the lady practices Santeria. Didn't know what that was. She explained to me that some Cubans practice that shit and that's why she didn't want to go to her house as often once she found out, but yeah, the goat was just used to kill and then the body was discarded. Maybe she gave it to someone to eat afterwards, but within Cuban culture, some of us look down on people who practice that.

The Cuban culture is definitely more refined and more educated than the Haitian culture, so God knows what actually takes place in one of those voodoo rituals.

[Overdrive]

CNN
MSNBC
ABC
CBS
NBC
PBS

are all major networks that lean Left. And you want to say one network in Fox evens the playing field? Is that what you're telling me? The same Fox that is owned by Liberals and that fired Tucker Carlson and that employs several Liberals as on-air personalities? That Fox News? :oldlol:

If the voter bases are almost devided by half that would just mean that FOX would have to be a MSM conservative monopolist. Even easier to be manipulated by that.

Of course at some point they have to fire people for misconduct since the cons always want to make sure they are not racist or sexist, they just speak facts.

[Bill Gates]

MAGA is now officially running on the cat eating crisis. Good luck with that :lol

[Patrick Chewing]

MAGA is now officially running on the cat eating crisis. Good luck with that :lol

The Liberal cat lady vote will go to Trump. And there are a lot of Liberal cat ladies out there. I don't know Shawk personally, but he says has lots of cats so I'm going to safely assume he is voting for Trump in November.

Bottom line, you don't **** with people's pets. You certainly don't eat them either. At some point, you Democrats need to get back on the side of sanity and say enough is enough. When will we stop letting in third world savages that will one day eat us too??

[Bill Gates]

The Liberal cat lady vote will go to Trump. And there are a lot of Liberal cat ladies out there. I don't know Shawk personally, but he says has lots of cats so I'm going to safely assume he is voting for Trump in November.

Bottom line, you don't **** with people's pets. You certainly don't eat them either. At some point, you Democrats need to get back on the side of sanity and say enough is enough. When will we stop letting in third world savages that will one day eat us too??

Liberal cat ladies would eat their own cat before voting Trump.

[RRR3]

The Liberal cat lady vote will go to Trump. And there are a lot of Liberal cat ladies out there. I don't know Shawk personally, but he says has lots of cats so I'm going to safely assume he is voting for Trump in November.

Bottom line, you don't **** with people's pets. You certainly don't eat them either. At some point, you Democrats need to get back on the side of sanity and say enough is enough. When will we stop letting in third world savages that will one day eat us too??
Genuinely astounding how you prove you've never talked to women over and over again.

[Patrick Chewing]

Genuinely astounding how you prove you've never talked to women over and over again.

Your insults are boring and childish. Liberal cat ladies are a real thing. These are bitter, single women who all look like Robin Diangelo who actually happens to look a lot like you. And considering the way you look, there is no way you have ever had sex with a woman who was conscious.

Existence is pain.

[RRR3]

It wasn't even an insult, it's just very obvious you don't talk to women based on the stuff you say.

[Patrick Chewing]

It wasn't even an insult, it's just very obvious you don't talk to women based on the stuff you say.

Yes, I don't talk to Liberal cat ladies. :oldlol:

[tontoz]

Yes, I don't talk to Liberal cat ladies. :oldlol:

But you know who they will vote for. Special talent you have there.

[RRR3]

Yes, I don't talk to Liberal cat ladies. :oldlol:
The thing is, the overwhelming majority of women in their 20s and 30s are liberal or further left. So maybe you talk to grandmas, but you claim to be some player, so..

[Patrick Chewing]

The thing is, the overwhelming majority of women in their 20s and 30s are liberal or further left. So maybe you talk to grandmas, but you claim to be some player, so..

I talk to and date Liberal women all the time. But the Liberal cat lady is a species all of her own. These are the type of Liberal women that will put on their online dating profile, "No Trumpers" or "Swipe left if you don't think Palestine should be free". Nonsense like that. There's a reason why the Liberal cat lady will always be single.

[RRR3]

I talk to and date Liberal women all the time. But the Liberal cat lady is a species all of her own. These are the type of Liberal women that will put on their online dating profile, "No Trumpers" or "Swipe left if you don't think Palestine should be free". Nonsense like that. There's a reason why the Liberal cat lady will always be single.
If this is true, this is you admitting you only dare say the stuff you say on here anonymously :lol

So is that it? You just spew your hate on ISH but in real life you're all quiet?

[Patrick Chewing]

If this is true, this is you admitting you only dare say the stuff you say on here anonymously :lol

So is that it? You just spew your hate on ISH but in real life you're all quiet?

Every Liberal woman I've dated has known that I'm a Conservative and have voted for Trump. There are open-minded Liberal women out there believe it or not. It's not always about politics when you're in a relationship. You say you're not a Liberal, but would you reject a female Trump supporter? You would only date the Robin DiAngelos of the world?

[RRR3]

Every Liberal woman I've dated has known that I'm a Conservative and have voted for Trump. There are open-minded Liberal women out there believe it or not. It's not always about politics when you're in a relationship. You say you're not a Liberal, but would you reject a female Trump supporter? You would only date the Robin DiAngelos of the world?
I don't date conservatives, yeah, you'd be hard pressed to find a socialist who would.

[Patrick Chewing]

I don't date conservatives, yeah, you'd be hard pressed to find a socialist who would.

And why is that? Because of their political beliefs??

[TheMan]

Could have fooled me.

I'm just calling it like I'm seeing it, bro. I was on here saying Trump was the clear favorite back when it was Biden v Trump II, now the race is tight but I think Harris has the edge based on enthusiasm, high voter registration amongst demographics that favor the Democrats and Kamala's campaign actually looking competent (to my surprise), along with Harris easily triggering Trump Tuesday night didn't help the Don's case either.

And of all people, you're like waaaay out on the fringe bro.

[TheMan]

This.

The funny thing is, the people who claim they are no longer Democrats still get triggered when you bad mouth Harris or say anything positive about Trump.

I'm a registered independent who leaned democrat for most of my life until the last few years.

Show me one post of mine where I got triggered by something negative said of Harris or something positive about Trump. I will readily tell you I'm not a fan of either, I'm just here giving my two cents on the state of the race, like everyone else.

[TheMan]

You're a Mexican liberal whose always hated Trump. And that's fine. It's just kind of funny most legal American Latinos support him because they work hard and keep it real and are traditional people who aren't with all the wierdo shit the left pushes.

It's only the illegals that have their votes bought and paid for since they know it's their meal ticket. They don't even agree with any of the policies aside from the fact they can be let in for free and milk the system.

The ironic part is Mexicans in Mexico totally stand up against the poorer people from central and south America coming up to their country. They literally hate them. :lol

I don't think you've read any of my previous posts here against the Trans movement, abortion, feminazis and overall the alphabet people, I've said it many times, I'm left in economics and right on social issues. I'm no liberal.

My biggest gripe with Trump is his endless stream of ridiculous lies, he's a con man, he will just spout off and say the dumbest things and it's insulting to me that he thinks we're all too stupid to not know when he's BSing us, he's never been for the working man, he's been an elitist his whole damn life. The people who've known him the most, New Yorkers, can't stand him. That should be a big hint...

Harris is just another run of the mill corporate Democrat shill BUT at least she has a history of being pro worker's rights as AG and senator, and she does come from a working class background.

None of the two are my ideal candidates but Trump did nothing for the working and middle class (but he did hand over to the rich their biggest tax break ever that led to trillions being added to the national debt), she at least is sympathetic to worker's rights. Her stances on social issues, meh.

[TheMan]

Lol, he's a fat Mexican libtard. At least the other nerds own up to it, but he's trying to play some middle ground while melting down about trump every day. Not a very bright guy. :oldlol:

Well, that's just like, your opinion man...

Seriously though, you strike me as an effeminate girly Boi who would take the Don's alpha chorizo in your mouth and a DAP from LeBron and Mahomes.

I bet that thought just gave you a hard on, right ******?

[ILLsmak]

I don't date conservatives, yeah, you'd be hard pressed to find a socialist who would.

you need to grow up, cuzo. Life is too short. If you find that... person? and you like them and they are like btw maga and you melt down, that will be a missed opportunity.

I am 1000% sick of people making politics so serious. I am sure people would be salted if someone said they would only date a Christian. The way I see it, if someone accepts my beliefs, they are cool, and my beliefs are strongly held enough that I am not worried. I can make little jokes if someone believes wild shit. IT'S ALL GOOD. More than likely, they would come closer to my PoV.

"I don't date conservatives." I don't usually say shit about people's life, but I am so tired of people saying shit like that. They might not even be a conservative like you are a socialist. You might be missing out on someone who you could convince you were right. I'd say there are very few people with actually strongly held political beliefs, especially when love is involved. Only weirdos are choosing politics over love, don't be that person heh.

-Smak

[Off the Court]

A true MAGA Trumper and a real Lib would have major personality clashes. It might work out in the short term but shit would not work out in the long run. See Chewing who can't get a relationship to work.

It is interesting to see couples that were married before MAGA and now are on opposite ends of the spectrum while married. I know a married couple like that and I am absolutely sure they've had heated arguments that end up with the him sleeping on the couch at nights.

[Hey Yo]

Married couples have heated arguments sometimes???

Mind blown...

[Patrick Chewing]

A true MAGA Trumper and a real Lib would have major personality clashes. It might work out in the short term but shit would not work out in the long run. See Chewing who can't get a relationship to work.

It is interesting to see couples that were married before MAGA and now are on opposite ends of the spectrum while married. I know a married couple like that and I am absolutely sure they've had heated arguments that end up with the him sleeping on the couch at nights.

50% of the country is single right now. I doubt political differences plays a big factor in such a huge percentage of single people out there. I think the problem nowadays is the inability for people to sacrifice and accept differences and compromise. Everyone is on an empowerment trip and I think that alienates a lot of people. None of my previous relationships have failed due to political differences.

[ILLsmak]

A true MAGA Trumper and a real Lib would have major personality clashes. It might work out in the short term but shit would not work out in the long run. See Chewing who can't get a relationship to work.

It is interesting to see couples that were married before MAGA and now are on opposite ends of the spectrum while married. I know a married couple like that and I am absolutely sure they've had heated arguments that end up with the him sleeping on the couch at nights.

No offense Chewing haha, but dude would throw Trump under the bus for the right girl. That’s what I’m saying. Ultra maga people are super rare just like their liberal counterparts. I dunno if there are five of either on this crazy site.

It’s important, but it’s not that important to very many people. Even people who love to talk about politics and watch news, if they can’t disagree like shake muh damn head he’s listening to Trump again. People aren’t built for long term relationships. As long as you never cross the ‘ur a bad person’ line it’s all good.

If aoc wasn’t prol used up, i’d mess w a crazy lib bartender. I dunno tho i think even she isn’t like that all the time. People who are all politics all the time have no room for love.

-Smak

[Norcaliblunt]

Dating chicks you disagree with politically is actually fun.

Way funner than dating someone who has completely different tastes in music, food, sports, or movies.

[BigKobeFan]

Bro, I no longer identify as a Democrat and I come from a family of Midwest union members but that doesn't mean I'm going to run towards the fringe either but you do you :cheers:

Midwest union workers my ass. You came from mexico. With relatives in mexico. The only union you belonged to was the one that allowed mexicans to pick vegetables in the usa for the day

[RRR3]

I AM ADOLF HITLER COMMANDER OF THE THIRD REICH
:biggums:

[1987_Lakers]

Every Liberal woman I've dated has known that I'm a Conservative and have voted for Trump. There are open-minded Liberal women out there believe it or not. It's not always about politics when you're in a relationship. You say you're not a Liberal, but would you reject a female Trump supporter? You would only date the Robin DiAngelos of the world?

I'm currently smashing a Haitian believe it or not (met her last year, my God, the ass on her) and she knows I lean towards Trump over Harris while she is gonna vote Harris, we are are still cool with each other. At the end of the day we shouldn't let this stuff divide us.

[TheMan]

Midwest union workers my ass. You came from mexico. With relatives in mexico. The only union you belonged to was the one that allowed mexicans to pick vegetables in the usa for the day

BigKobeFag, stop pretending you know anything about me, dumbass. My dad was a union US Steel worker in Chicago during the 70s through the 80s, he made bank, enough to start his own business. You strike me as a low IQ racist redneck, which is pretty bizarre considering you stan a black man (RIP). You're a walking contradiction (Taxi Driver quote).

Stop replying to my posts, I don't like engaging with retards who contribute nothing FOH.

[Nanners]

No shit the debate was rigged... and anyone who was surprised by this fact is beyond retarded, especially Trump who handled this rigging terribly.

[Hoon]

Even though there’s no clear evidence yet, situations like this raise a lot of questions. I’ve seen similar discussions on this forum about how hard it is for whistleblowers to speak out. According to this page (https://federal-lawyer.com/whistleblower-lawyers/false-claims/rewards/), there are specialized lawyers who provide legal support in such cases, especially when it involves fraud or manipulation.

[Hey Yo]

Bro, I no longer identify as a Democrat and I come from a family of Midwest union members but that doesn't mean I'm going to run towards the fringe either but you do you :cheers:
So you just play one (with TDS) on a message board??


:roll:

[TheMan]

So you just play one (with TDS) on a message board??


:roll:

Nah, I play the part of an independent minded voter not easily duped by a con man, unlike you, simpleton. Go to sleep, boomer.

Calling out Trump for his obvious mishandling of the economy so far isn't having TDS. OTOH, you have Trump Dependency Syndrome...please don't criticize my daddy Trump, please :cry:

[RRR3]

Nah, I play the part of an independent minded voter not easily duped by a con man, unlike you, simpleton. Go to sleep, boomer.

Calling out Trump for his obvious mishandling of the economy so far isn't having TDS. OTOH, you have Trump Dependency Syndrome...please don't criticize my daddy Trump, please :cry:
Hey D'oh wants the Trump D BADLY :roll:

He's in love

[TheMan]

Hey D'oh wants the Trump D BADLY :roll:

He's in love

He craves the orange man's cawk, he would worship it

[fsvr54]

I'm currently smashing a Haitian believe it or not (met her last year, my God, the ass on her) and she knows I lean towards Trump over Harris while she is gonna vote Harris, we are are still cool with each other. At the end of the day we shouldn't let this stuff divide us.

I work with a lesbian who despises Trump and she knows I voted for him and she still adores me. People used to have different beliefs and still got along in the 21st century