He had much more help but won much less and had weaker teams

[3ba11]

What more evidence is required

[Full Court]

What more evidence is required

I would like more evidence. Specifically, did he have any choke jobs?

[SouBeachTalents]

Who are you referring to?

[ShawkFactory]

James Harden? Charles Barkley?

Idkkkkk!!!!

[3ba11]

Who are you referring to?


Wow your ability to deflect and avoid the question knows no bounds

[Phoenix]

Wow your ability to deflect and avoid the question knows no bounds

As is your ability to create the same fukking threads over and over. What talking points are you hoping to see here that didn't surface in your prior 1000 topics?

[SouBeachTalents]

As is your ability to create the same fukking threads over and over. What talking points are you hoping to see here that didn't surface in your prior 1000 topics?
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[John8204]

If we look at title runs(conference/NBA finals) and not championships...Lebron won more than Jordan.

[Axe]

If we look at title runs(conference/NBA finals) and not championships...Lebron won more than Jordan.
Yet losing before the finals is much better according to clueless casuals. :confusedshrug:

[3ba11]

As is your ability to create the same fukking threads over and over. What talking points are you hoping to see here that didn't surface in your prior 1000 topics?


You're right, I've won the debate pretty convincingly so it's just bullying at this point.. Thanks for opening my eyes

[3ba11]

Yet losing before the finals is much better according to clueless casuals. :confusedshrug:


Lebron has 11 losses before the Finals, compared to only 9 for MJ or Bird, and 3 for Magic.. So based on your own rules, Lebron is behind all three of these guys, which is congruent with my rankings - I guess it's a demonstration that my rankings can cover other people's logic as well - that's how great my rankings are..

My top 10 is based on the skillsets that needed the least help to win, so the best expert jumpshooters > the best centers > the best ball-dominators... So the top 12 are MJ, Kobe, Curry, Bird, Russell, Wilt, Kareem, Duncan, Shaq, Magic, Lebron, Oscar

[RRR3]

You're right, I've won the debate pretty convincingly so it's just bullying at this point.. Thanks for opening my eyes
So you should stop arguing about it then.

[3ba11]

So you should stop arguing about it then.


I would, but as the previous post shows, there's a lot of people lying out there about Jordan's career and trying to change the history and the narrative, even if it's just here on ISH... So it's my duty to basically fact-check... :confusedshrug:.. that's my role on this site

[RRR3]

I would, but as the previous post shows, there's a lot of people lying out there about Jordan's career and trying to change the history and the narrative, even if it's just here on ISH... So it's my duty to basically fact-check... :confusedshrug:.. that's my role on this site
You don't give a shit about Jordan, stop lying. He's just a way to attack LeBron for you.

[StrongLurk]

The biggest Lebron hater of all time STILL has Lebron ranked 11. That's how you know Lebron is the GOAT. Lebron's so good that his biggest, most deranged hater can't rank him any worse than 11 all time :roll:

[3ba11]

You don't give a shit about Jordan, stop lying. He's just a way to attack LeBron for you.


Well, according to his own teammates like Chalmers, Shumpert, Wade and others, Lebron did infact ruin the game by doing any of the following things, such as teaming up with opponents, getting the media to do his bidding, and getting the league to give him a team overhaul every year.. Only Lebron gets the media to clamor for trades all year long, and only Lebron enjoys a roster overhaul every year courtesy of league GM's.. It's basically fake.. literally everything including the terms used nowadays are designed for entertainment - the game has been simplified to "3-and-D" and "dunker spot" - beginner-level terms so the media and fans can understand - it's a dumbed-down for entertainment - Derek Fisher called it WWE - the team-ups, soft rules and load management - all for entertainment as opposed to quality basketball and format that can dominate international comp and the entire world, as our physical talent advantage dictates we should.. carry on

[Phoenix]

You're right, I've won the debate pretty convincingly so it's just bullying at this point.. Thanks for opening my eyes

Not even remotely true, but the idea that you dedicate your life to 'bullying' people about meaningless basketball debates should open your eyes as to how pathetic you are. Imagine getting to 80 years old on your dying bed, and as your life flashes before your eyes you come to realize what you spent years of your life doing.