Knicks trade Randle and DiVincenzo for Karl-Anthony Towns

[bluechox2]

Breaking Shams

[Hey Yo]

Holy shit!

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/knicks-trade-for-karl-anthony-towns-new-york-reportedly-sends-julius-randle-first-round-pick-to-timberwolves/

[Street Hunger]

This came out of nowhere!

[Street Hunger]

The Knicks really did need a center, especially with Mitchell Robinson injured

[bison]

Wow. What a fleece by the knicks. They contenders now?

[Patrick Chewing]

Stupid trade for the Knicks. Terrible franchise. How do you give so much more in this trade??

[Axe]

Whoa. Randle and Div will be future scapegoats if they don't carry the cumbersome baguette well next season.

[bison]

Hmm knicks are still short $8 million on this trade. They can’t take back more salary than they send out since they’re above the first apron. There’s still another piece coming in this deal or a third team possibly.

[Hey Yo]

Stupid trade for the Knicks. Terrible franchise. How do you give so much more in this trade??

Gotta shake it up, mang. Randle/ Precious/Sims ain't cutting at C.... neither is Robinson 'if' he fully recovers from 2nd surgery.

Look to win now

[Patrick Chewing]

Gotta shake it up, mang. Randle/ Precious/Sims ain't cutting at C.... neither is Robinson 'if' he fully recovers from 2nd surgery.

Look to win now

Of all the players you could have added to this trade with Randle, the all-time franchise leader in 3’s?? In a league that is all about the 3-ball? Not only that, but you piss off your star in Jalen Brunson by trading away one of his best friends. It’s just stupid.

[Proctor]

What the ****?

I mean, the Knicks clearly needed to make a move but not sure KAT gets them where they want to be. I *think* he'll play decently for the Knicks but damn I can see him really stinking it up in the playoffs when he needs to relieve some pressure from Brunson.

DiVincenzio is a huge loss. Randle is a nothing loss. Should get rid of Robinson as well to the dumbest taker.

[Real Men Wear Green]

On paper this is a good trade for th knicks but because I hate them I must point out that KAT is arguably the least Thibs player of all time. On paper they have a center but this guy means the Knicks will be soft in the paint. Embiid and Giannis would destroy this team over a series and Knick fans will be throwing their beers at the television when the Celtics guard him with Tatum and he goes down the court and shoots a three five straight possessions.

[Proctor]

On the plus side the Wolves now have their own "Low IQ Bros" formation.

Edwards and Randle, two players who really think they're much better than they actually are. Three if you count Gobert.

:roll:

[Patrick Chewing]

This trade gets worse and worse as time goes by. As much as I hate Randle, not at the expense of obtaining a weaker player in KAT and losing DiVo.

I’m sick. **** this organization.

[Street Hunger]

Do Julius Randle and Anthony Edwards make sense together?

[Street Hunger]

Anyone think that Dante DiVincenzo is underrated?

[j3lademaster]

Anyone think that Dante DiVincenzo is underrated?

Very. Can defend, rebounds well for his position, can hit high stakes shots in the postseason. He’s a valuable asset to any team.

[Neal Romer]

Wow. What a fleece by the knicks. They contenders now?


Fleece?

KAT is a playoff loser.

They could have gotten a lesser name but with a bigger impact for Randle, DD and a 1st.

Adding KAT to this team makes me cringe tbh.

[Neal Romer]

Do Julius Randle and Anthony Edwards make sense together?


Flip Randle to the Lakers for DLo.

It's time for Prince Bronny to start in the Lakers back court. He's earned it.

[Street Hunger]

I am sort of confused by today's modern centers that shoot three pointers just as much as a guard.

How well will KAT fit on the Knicks?

[coin24]

Didn’t that moron Brunson take less money to play with his friends???:lol

Now they go and trade his friend for that loser KAT:roll:



ALWAYS TAKE THE MONEY. idiot:roll:

[j3lademaster]

Fleece?

KAT is a playoff loser.

They could have gotten a lesser name but with a bigger impact for Randle, DD and a 1st.

Adding KAT to this team makes me cringe tbh.
He’s only a loser when he’s expected to be the best player and first option, he played fine behind Ant.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Didn’t that moron Brunson take less money to play with his friends???:lol

Now they go and trade his friend for that loser KAT:roll:



ALWAYS TAKE THE MONEY. idiot:roll:

He took less money not just to pay with friends but believing the Knicks are trying to win a title. A lot of people are the flawed with KAT and doubt what the Knicks can do but he is a center (sort of) so the potential of a 20-10 big that will clear out the paint for him could have Brunson feeling like the team is better even though he will miss his boy. The way most teams operate Brunson would normally have known the team was plotting this and given the trade his approval. He also may not have seen this coming but most teams with a superstar consult with him.

[iamgine]

KAT has been under the tutelage of 4x DPOY Rudy Gobert for a couple seasons. Watch him be one of the better defensive center this coming season.

[90sgoat]

Good trade for Knicks, Randle is a net negative player.

[Real Men Wear Green]

KAT has been under the tutelage of 4x DPOY Rudy Gobert for a couple seasons. Watch him be one of the better defensive center this coming season.

You can't teach a guy a motor. Either he has one or he doesn't.

[Xiao Yao You]

Whoa. Randle and Div will be future scapegoats if they don't carry the cumbersome baguette well next season.

Another long season ahead for the trolls :facepalm

[ILLsmak]

One of those rare trades that negatively impacts both teams haha.

Nah, I duno.

There’s no way they didn’t run this by Brun tho.

-Smak

[ImKobe]

Wolves save a ton of money and have flexibility to build a new team around Ant after this season. Donte is a good return but I do not like the fit with Randle at all.

KAT is an upgrade over Randle offensively for NY but if you're looking ahead to a match-up against Boston in the POs I feel like KAT will get exploited a lot on D.

[Monta Ellis MVP]

At first look this trade isn’t making much sense to me. People are down on Randle but Saying he’s a net negative is a little much. I think he will be better in a smaller role. Where that role is in Minnesota I’m not sure. Donte has been very solid. As a Warriors fan as well as a Pacers fan it hurt seeing him walk and have the year he did with the Knicks. Warriors had no choice though, their hands were tied financially. But KAT. I know we all love to dunk on him because he’s the easiest target but wow. Even if he had staunch defenders I don’t know how they could do it at this point. He was dreadful in a lot of key moments during the playoffs. Some players use a playoff run to showcase what they got and increase their contract/trade value, feels like KAT did the opposite.

Sucks for New York. I was liking their team and their energy. I was going for them in the East. Having KAT on the team kinda ruins it. Doesn’t fit their culture they got going on. It’s hard to root for that guy.

He is just such a ****ing cuck.

[Im Still Ballin]

No idea what to make of this trade. I'd caution against reductive analyses boiling everything down to three-point shooting and spacing. Randle has been a part of strong NYK offenses while playing alongside offensively limited rim-running centers and mediocre team three-point shooting.


NYK 2022-23: 3rd ORtg; +3.0 rORtg [11th 3PM, 8th 3PA, 19th 3PT%, 10th 3PAr]
NYK 2023-24: 7th ORtg; +2.9 rORtg [10th 3PM, 13th 3PA, 14th 3PT%, 11th 3PAr]


NYK 2022-23: Randle + Robinson: +7.4; Randle + Hartenstein: +3.0
NYK 2023-24: Randle + Hartenstein: +11.1

Will it work? Who knows. But it absolutely can; I see an outcome where Randle's superior on-ball creation provides Minnesota a much-needed offensive lift. That's assuming they're not looking to trade him.

Although Towns isn't a Thibadeau-style center New York has the defensive wings (Anunoby, Bridges) to help him out.

[coin24]

Randle is a playoff choker anyway, no big loss tbh. Donte is a much bigger loss, guy plays D, can hit the 3 and plays his ass off.

KAT is nothing but a soft cuck loser.. massive L for the Knicks wow

[HylianNightmare]

Knicks the best they've been since Ewing was there

[ArbitraryWater]

I like it for both I think.

[Xiao Yao You]

Yossi Gozlan: It’s worth noting that Rudy Gobert is currently extension-eligible. He has a $46.7 million player option for next season and could extend at a lower starting salary. That possibility, along with Karl Anthony-Towns’ contract off the books, would leave the Timberwolves in a much stronger position to re-sign Naz Reid next summer. – via x.com

[Patrick Chewing]

One of those rare trades that negatively impacts both teams haha.

Nah, I duno.

There’s no way they didn’t run this by Brun tho.

-Smak

I wouldn’t put it past the Knicks to not have run this by Brunson. They are a grossly incompetent organization.

[GOBB]

Didn’t that moron Brunson take less money to play with his friends???:lol

Now they go and trade his friend for that loser KAT:roll:



ALWAYS TAKE THE MONEY. idiot:roll:

Are you 12? Why are your replies so immature. Brunson didn’t take less to play just with his friends. He took less so the Knicks would have flexibility to make moves to be title contenders. Nowhere did he say do this without sacrificing my role player buds. His end goal is to win an nba title. Not play just with besties.

Randle is a ball stopper so the Knicks needed to move him. Whether you like it for Kat is fair. But Randle had to be gone. This move allows Brunson to continue being the main guy whereas had Randle been healthy? He would’ve fell back. Again could they have moved Randle for different pieces etc? Sure. I feel Kat is soft and hasn’t shown up when it counts. So I’m all for moving Randle I just don’t think I would’ve done it for KAT. But we will see how it plays out.

I was critical of Brunson turning down money. But you’re calling him an idiot given your replies in here would make one question your idiocy is hilarious. Simmer down bud.

[Street Hunger]

Still have no idea if this is a good trade for other team or not

[RRR3]

Still have no idea if this is a good trade for other team or not
Great for Knicks, horrible for Wolves.

[StrongLurk]

Interesting trade. I see a bit more upside for the Knicks in it though. Kat is soft but Julius Randle is an even worse choker.

Donte is nice but it's hard to tell how much of a "flash in the pan" type player he is.

[StrongLurk]

Interesting trade. I see a bit more upside for the Knicks in it though. Kat is soft but Julius Randle is an even worse choker.

Donte is nice but it's hard to tell how much of a "flash in the pan" type player he is.

[tpols]

Disappointing to see divincenzo go but that's a decent price to pay for an All Star big man. I'm not a fan of KAT but with Mitchell Robinson out for now they needed some size.

[3ba11]

I don't think Ant has the polish or IQ to play with someone like Randle

[ILLsmak]

I wouldn’t put it past the Knicks to not have run this by Brunson. They are a grossly incompetent organization.

Not a knicks fan, but yeah it’d be wack after he bought in. I can see buying in like he did for respect and longevity, but it makes no sense for them to shit on him so early. Ainge is not their gm, right haha.

I also agree they were gonna trade randle anyway, but i share the skepticism about kat. He prol sells tickets, but ill be shocked if he’s contending. Add in he has an injury history and it’s like…

Like i said i think this is bad for both teams. Maybe there is some benefit money wise but we shall see how it works in basketball.

-Smak

[coin24]

Are you 12? Why are your replies so immature. Brunson didn’t take less to play just with his friends. He took less so the Knicks would have flexibility to make moves to be title contenders. Nowhere did he say do this without sacrificing my role player buds. His end goal is to win an nba title. Not play just with besties.

Randle is a ball stopper so the Knicks needed to move him. Whether you like it for Kat is fair. But Randle had to be gone. This move allows Brunson to continue being the main guy whereas had Randle been healthy? He would’ve fell back. Again could they have moved Randle for different pieces etc? Sure. I feel Kat is soft and hasn’t shown up when it counts. So I’m all for moving Randle I just don’t think I would’ve done it for KAT. But we will see how it plays out.

I was critical of Brunson turning down money. But you’re calling him an idiot given your replies in here would make one question your idiocy is hilarious. Simmer down bud.

It’s the Knicks, taking less money to win? Insane.

You seem upset, calling names and making it personal. What’s wrong princess? Still upset the 76ers are a total shitshow?

[90sgoat]

I don't think Ant has the polish or IQ to play with someone like Randle

Who can play with Randle? He seems like a very low iq player. Bully ball downhill.

[Proctor]

Who can play with Randle? He seems like a very low iq player. Bully ball downhill.
Honestly he's probably at his best when he is playing bully ball downhill and shooting semi-intelligent midrange shots. It's when he thinks he's a consistent volume 3 point shooter that trouble happens. Just all around terrible shot selection.

I can actually see Minny drastically improving from this trade. Wolves survived many years of KAT going ghost and worst case Randle is the same. DiVincenzio is a huge get for them and changes the team dramatically. Their team will be even tougher and they should lean into Randle's bully ball and just go out there and be brutes. Edwards/Randle/Gobert and all of their pesky defenders is one hell of a physical team. I like it more by the day.

[Neal Romer]

This is a pretty easy call for Minny with Naz Reid waiting in the wings.

Karl Anthony Towns is on a SUPER MAX and is a certified playoff bed shitter. This trade just makes Minnesota's roster/salary balance much better. Doesnt mean they necessarily go any farther. But in theory it's a reasonable move. Towns is I guess a bit better than No-Longer-Orange Julius straight up by the numbers, but adding DD and a first makes it worth it. They could even look at moving Randle down the line, maybe with Dillingham and/or a first round pick, to Brooklyn for like, Dennis Schroeder and Dorian Finney Smith.

To me this move feels desperate by the Knicks. Towns is a goofy video gamer who plays basketball on the side. Maybe it's just that I personally dont wanna see him rewarded with success when I perceive him as soft and undeserving. But if it works it works. I just hate seeing the Knicks go from Hartenstein/Robinson level effort at the center position, to Karl Anthony Towns. Makes them less appealing to root for in my opinion. Should have just waited it out til JV is trade eligible from Washington.

[Im Still Ballin]

Honestly he's probably at his best when he is playing bully ball downhill and shooting semi-intelligent midrange shots. It's when he thinks he's a consistent volume 3 point shooter that trouble happens. Just all around terrible shot selection.

I can actually see Minny drastically improving from this trade. Wolves survived many years of KAT going ghost and worst case Randle is the same. DiVincenzio is a huge get for them and changes the team dramatically. Their team will be even tougher and they should lean into Randle's bully ball and just go out there and be brutes. Edwards/Randle/Gobert and all of their pesky defenders is one hell of a physical team. I like it more by the day.


This is a pretty easy call for Minny with Naz Reid waiting in the wings.

Karl Anthony Towns is on a SUPER MAX and is a certified playoff bed shitter. This trade just makes Minnesota's roster/salary balance much better. Doesnt mean they necessarily go any farther. But in theory it's a reasonable move. Towns is I guess a bit better than No-Longer-Orange Julius straight up by the numbers, but adding DD and a first makes it worth it. They could even look at moving Randle down the line, maybe with Dillingham and/or a first round pick, to Brooklyn for like, Dennis Schroeder and Dorian Finney Smith.

To me this move feels desperate by the Knicks. Towns is a goofy video gamer who plays basketball on the side. Maybe it's just that I personally dont wanna see him rewarded with success when I perceive him as soft and undeserving. But if it works it works. I just hate seeing the Knicks go from Hartenstein/Robinson level effort at the center position, to Karl Anthony Towns. Makes them less appealing to root for in my opinion. Should have just waited it out til JV is trade eligible from Washington.

Agreed, fellas.

[Im Still Ballin]

...


None of the messaging indicated a seismic move was imminent. After more than a year of the Knicks making overtures for Towns that were summarily dismissed by the Timberwolves because they were not good enough, many in Minnesota didn’t expect Rose and Gersson Rosas, the former president of basketball operations in Minnesota, who was fired and landed with the Knicks, to get serious about their pursuit.

If they were going to relent to New York’s wishes by finally giving them Towns, DiVincenzo had to be part of the package, team sources said.

The two-for-one opens up more options for tweaking the roster going forward. Randle and DiVincenzo have much more tradeable contracts, and the shorter terms could give the Wolves a lot of leeway three years down the road. With Edwards rising near the top of the league, the Wolves like that part of the deal while also believing they can remain contenders for the season ahead.

Randle has plenty of advocates in Minnesota. The Wolves believe his bully-ball approach on offense can work with what they have around him. He is a solid passer as well and plays a physical style that appeals to Finch. The new combination of depth coupled with anticipated leaps from Edwards, McDaniels and Reid will be relied upon to help the Wolves boost their 17th-ranked offense.

Now the biggest question left to answer is if they are still a contender in the West this season. They believe that Randle’s bucket-getting and toughness and DiVincenzo’s shooting and defense give them a real chance. Training camp is right around the corner, so it won’t take long for the answers to emerge.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5800924/2024/09/28/why-timberwolves-trade-karl-anthony-towns/

[Monta Ellis MVP]

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+1

[GOBB]

It’s the Knicks, taking less money to win? Insane.

You seem upset, calling names and making it personal. What’s wrong princess? Still upset the 76ers are a total shitshow?

Upset? Calling names? You called Brunson an idiot. Now you’re playing why are you calling me names, making it personal game? You’re weird.

[Xiao Yao You]

Honestly he's probably at his best when he is playing bully ball downhill and shooting semi-intelligent midrange shots. It's when he thinks he's a consistent volume 3 point shooter that trouble happens. Just all around terrible shot selection.

I can actually see Minny drastically improving from this trade. Wolves survived many years of KAT going ghost and worst case Randle is the same. DiVincenzio is a huge get for them and changes the team dramatically. Their team will be even tougher and they should lean into Randle's bully ball and just go out there and be brutes. Edwards/Randle/Gobert and all of their pesky defenders is one hell of a physical team. I like it more by the day.

But gobert sucks. At least be consistent troll

[fsvr54]

Giving up DiVincenzo is so ****ing stupid

[Hey Yo]

Chances Randle opts out of the 30mil next summer, going to want a max deal and Minny's going to give him a big raise?

[Patrick Chewing]

Giving up DiVincenzo is so ****ing stupid

Thank you. The man hit 283 3’s last year. How do you replace that? DiVo is really a starter and my guess is that it was probably a mutual decision to be traded cause he wasn’t going to start after the acquisition of Bridges.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Chances Randle opts out of the 30mil next summer, going to want a max deal and Minny's going to give him a big raise?
Minny may have done the trade to get out of Towns Mav deal. Doubt they want to give a large contract to Randle. A lot depends on who owns the team next year which has to be decided by courts or arbitration. Something like that. The current owner had an agreement to sell to A-Rod and some billionaires but then pulled out when either the new group missed payments or he realized he should have made more on the sale, depending on who you believe. Their current executive has the right to quit whenever he wants to of he doesn't like the situation. A lot of unknowns.

[Xiao Yao You]

Chances Randle opts out of the 30mil next summer, going to want a max deal and Minny's going to give him a big raise?

Sounds more likely naz and nickeil get paid

[GOBB]

Thank you. The man hit 283 3’s last year. How do you replace that? DiVo is really a starter and my guess is that it was probably a mutual decision to be traded cause he wasn’t going to start after the acquisition of Bridges.

We got to stop overrating role players. Don’t remember anyone speaking this highly of Dante until now. I get he’s well liked and all. But he’s replaceable.

[Real Men Wear Green]

We got to stop overrating role players. Don’t remember anyone speaking this highly of Dante until now. I get he’s well liked and all. But he’s replaceable.

No other team in the league would get love like this for making the second round. Celtics won a championship but get disregarded because they had injured opponents. Knicks beat one injured opponent and the sky's the limit. Expect Towns to be called a top 3 center and Brunson the best player in the East.

[FilmyCogTurner]

Is the knock on KAT softness? I thought the main gripe with him is how he performs in the playoffs. Seems to be the speed and physicality differences come post season really knock him off his basketball axis, he looks real lost out there most times. The good news is yes he is a very talented player and the Knicks now have a lot of weapons, that nonsensical frenetic play by KAT could be somewhat swept under the rug by having a strong starting lineup plus Brunson who is great at controlling the pace - I hope this works out for NYC, not really a fan but I'm tired of this team stinking it up.

[Xiao Yao You]

Is the knock on KAT softness? I thought the main gripe with him is how he performs in the playoffs. Seems to be the speed and physicality differences come post season really knock him off his basketball axis, he looks real lost out there most times. The good news is yes he is a very talented player and the Knicks now have a lot of weapons, that nonsensical frenetic play by KAT could be somewhat swept under the rug by having a strong starting lineup plus Brunson who is great at controlling the pace - I hope this works out for NYC, not really a fan but I'm tired of this team stinking it up.

I like him but without butler or ant he never showed he could carry a team to wins

[tpols]

KAT isn't as bad in the playoffs as yall are making him out to be. He averaged 19/9 on a WCF team last year. Shot 53/53/90 and 51/40/79 in the 1st two rounds. And even in the Mavs series was having jumpers rattle in and out, I remember because I was rooting for Dallas and he was getting dangerously close to hitting.

I know he's kind of soft and nerdy, but dude is big and skilled. Knicks have way more offensive talent as well than Minnesota. All minny had was edwards. Knicks have Brunson and Bridges. He's gonna be wide open.

[imdaman99]

I'm not a fan of KAT at ALL... but word is that Divo wasn't too thrilled about losing playing time, even if it was to his buddy Bridges.

Ah well, this is a win now move. Can't be wasting Brunson's prime. And addition by subtraction moving Randle. I'll only miss Divo.

[90sgoat]

Honestly he's probably at his best when he is playing bully ball downhill and shooting semi-intelligent midrange shots. It's when he thinks he's a consistent volume 3 point shooter that trouble happens. Just all around terrible shot selection.

I can actually see Minny drastically improving from this trade. Wolves survived many years of KAT going ghost and worst case Randle is the same. DiVincenzio is a huge get for them and changes the team dramatically. Their team will be even tougher and they should lean into Randle's bully ball and just go out there and be brutes. Edwards/Randle/Gobert and all of their pesky defenders is one hell of a physical team. I like it more by the day.

I guess it makes sense if you see Ant as being the star in Minny for the next decade. Dante can relieve some defensive pressure, which sapped Ant of energy last playoff.

[tontoz]

Minny may have done the trade to get out of Towns Mav deal. Doubt they want to give a large contract to Randle. A lot depends on who owns the team next year which has to be decided by courts or arbitration. Something like that. The current owner had an agreement to sell to A-Rod and some billionaires but then pulled out when either the new group missed payments or he realized he should have made more on the sale, depending on who you believe. Their current executive has the right to quit whenever he wants to of he doesn't like the situation. A lot of unknowns.


That is my take. It's Ant's team and they decided to build around him. Kats contract was a big problem for them. I wouldn't be surprised if they end up letting Randle walk

With the Knicks Kat will be more off ball which is probably better for him. He is not the best decision maker with the ball.

I can see this trade working out for both teams

[NBAGOAT]

wolves long term is fine but they punted in short term. Got worse talent and fit wise. Kat was the first guy to make it work with gobert. Decent chance they fall out of top 4 to like suns or kings. Knicks depth is a bit iffy now(but they might trade mitchell) but idc. They built the perfect lineup around brunson playing a heliocentric style. 5 out spacing, 3 elite wing defenders, and enough offensive firepower where brunson has enough help but not too much where guys are getting marginalized. Kat will his 15 shots and run the offense around him when brunson sits and and bridges og hart will only need like 30 shots.

[Xiao Yao You]

wolves long term is fine but they punted in short term. Got worse talent and fit wise. Kat was the first guy to make it work with gobert. Decent chance they fall out of top 4 to like suns or kings. Knicks depth is a bit iffy now(but they might trade mitchell) but idc. They built the perfect lineup around brunson playing a heliocentric style. 5 out spacing, 3 elite wing defenders, and enough offensive firepower where brunson has enough help but not too much where guys are getting marginalized. Kat will his 15 shots and run the offense around him when brunson sits and and bridges og hart will only need like 30 shots.

The 1st to make it work with gobert? :facepalm

[rawimpact]

I'm not a fan of KAT at ALL... but word is that Divo wasn't too thrilled about losing playing time, even if it was to his buddy Bridges.

Ah well, this is a win now move. Can't be wasting Brunson's prime. And addition by subtraction moving Randle. I'll only miss Divo.
This is the only way it would make sense to lose Divo. Both he and Hart were the diff makers last season despite Brunson having the media spotlight from a good series.

I actually think KAT and Brunson will be a good pairing as long as KAT makes a bigger effort to play in the paint.

[NBAGOAT]

The 1st to make it work with gobert? :facepalm

Yes in Minnesota initially only kat played well with gobert until he got injured. Dlo and edwards had no chemistry with him. Dlo got traded edwards figured it out

[GOBB]

No other team in the league would get love like this for making the second round. Celtics won a championship but get disregarded because they had injured opponents. Knicks beat one injured opponent and the sky's the limit. Expect Towns to be called a top 3 center and Brunson the best player in the East.

I see no lies being told here. Guess my preseason training needs to be preparing for annoyances lol

[GOBB]

KAT isn't as bad in the playoffs as yall are making him out to be. He averaged 19/9 on a WCF team last year. Shot 53/53/90 and 51/40/79 in the 1st two rounds. And even in the Mavs series was having jumpers rattle in and out, I remember because I was rooting for Dallas and he was getting dangerously close to hitting.

I know he's kind of soft and nerdy, but dude is big and skilled. Knicks have way more offensive talent as well than Minnesota. All minny had was edwards. Knicks have Brunson and Bridges. He's gonna be wide open.

This is like me arguing on Harden behalf when he became a Sixer when the narrative is he doesn’t perform well in the playoffs. When you look at playoff “stats”. That’s one thing. He balls. When you look at his “stats” in big games, big moments, big series? You can understand why the narrative exists. Same with Kat. Last playoffs if you ignore his series vs Dallas? On paper he balled. Against Dallas he laid an egg every game of that series for the most part. Post season prior vs Denver? Same deal. Guys like Kat are Uber talented perimeter bigs with a skillset. So the expectations are high. Bad games happen. But it’s when and how. Context involved.

Harden hopped for the sixers in playoffs. In a game without Embiid in playoffs he showed out. The last 3 games of that series my guy went MIA. Game 7? You wouldn’t have noticed he played. Therein lies the issue. When you are needed the most? Will you show. They’ll hang with KAT until he actually shows up when it matters. So we shall see. But we know one thing is he’s not physical and if you get physical with him? He tends to fold. Doing that in cities like Philly, NYC? Hopefully he has thick skin and can block out the noise. And change the narrative around him. Tons of pressure moreso than he has in Minny going to NYC. You’d think the Knicks won a title with all the fan reaction and hype surrounding them.

[Neal Romer]

Great for Knicks, horrible for Wolves.


:kobe:

[FireDavidKahn]

This thread :oldlol::oldlol::oldlol::oldlol:

[Wardell Curry]

This thread :oldlol::oldlol::oldlol::oldlol:

KAT sucks but this is a first round matchup. Congrats? The Wolves have 0 shot of making it out of the West.

If GSW gets healthy they can't even get past the second round.

[imdaman99]

KAT sucks but this is a first round matchup. Congrats? The Wolves have 0 shot of making it out of the West.

If GSW gets healthy they can't even get past the second round.

You're a negative Nancy. Always oozing with negativity. Take some different pills once in a while

Btw where is the other negative poster on here? I believe his name was Satan :oldlol:

[04mzwach]

Wolves beat Thunder last season. Wolves always love the matchup versus Golden State if GS makes it out of the first round. I doubt those teams will shoot like the Lakers are shooting this series.

[Axe]

Wolves beat Thunder last season. Wolves always love the matchup versus Golden State if GS makes it out of the first round. I doubt those teams will shoot like the Lakers are shooting this series.
It was the nuggets who they beat up last year in the semifinals.

[04mzwach]

My bad, I guess rhe MAvs beat OKC.

[Mask the Embiid]

Interesting

[tpols]

This thread :oldlol::oldlol::oldlol::oldlol:

A rare situation where both teams benefitted and have the same current playoff trajectory.

[GOBB]

Do nyk fans miss Dante or nah

[90sgoat]

Do nyk fans miss Dante or nah

Not a NY fan, but Dante for sure seems to have gotten more recognition in Minny.

[FireDavidKahn]

Not a NY fan, but Dante for sure seems to have gotten more recognition in Minny.

Which is weird because he is half the player he was in New York

[Meticode]

Which is weird because he is half the player he was in New York

It's because of what he did in NY that gave him that recognition in Minnesota.

[imdaman99]

Not a NY fan, but Dante for sure seems to have gotten more recognition in Minny.

Stop making shit up. Knicks fans loved him. He was the one we were upset about giving up, not Randle.

I am happy for Randle though, the way he's playing and the softness of Kat is making me miss Randle too.

[Neal Romer]

Which is weird because he is half the player he was in New York

I dont think he's changed as a player, he just fits better on faster paced teams like last years Knicks. The Wolves are like 25th in pace. Hes more of a transition player and momentum shooter, a guy who gets in a rhythm when he can launch a bunch of shots quickly, than a halfcourt weapon.

[04mzwach]

Dante brings energy and gritty defense. Theres only a capped amount of shots to go' around otherwise he would probably get the same averages as he did in NYK. Everyone contributes on Wolves roster. its not one man or two man show.