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1987_Lakers
10-05-2024, 09:33 AM
https://polymarket.com/elections

https://www.realclearpolling.com/maps/president/2024/no-toss-up/electoral-college

1987_Lakers
10-05-2024, 09:35 AM
Me back in August


Might be a fluke rise in the polls. The same thing happened to McCain when he announced Sarah Palin as his VP, it temporarily helped his polls numbers, but then the public got to know her. I think Kamala will suffer a similar fate.


https://media.tenor.com/1hlTNcVLVS4AAAAM/jordan-shrug.gif

Patrick Chewing
10-05-2024, 11:49 AM
It's laughable to think Kamala HAD, not has, but HAD any chance of beating Trump. Trump 2024 is the real deal.


https://media.tenor.com/Sin0DOO2uMcAAAAM/trump-trump-dance.gif

diamenz
10-05-2024, 12:14 PM
It's laughable to think Kamala HAD, not has, but HAD any chance of beating Trump. Trump 2024 is the real deal.


https://media.tenor.com/Sin0DOO2uMcAAAAM/trump-trump-dance.gif

you'd be surprised at how much impact liberal media and celebrity endorsements can have on the npc masses. i mean, hillary clinton almost won the presidency riding the "i'm a clinton and i'm a woman - what more do i need to offer you?" wave. ffs, a feeble old man that can't tell up from down is our commander in chief.

ILLsmak
10-05-2024, 12:49 PM
you'd be surprised at how much impact liberal media and celebrity endorsements can have on the npc masses. i mean, hillary clinton almost won the presidency riding the "i'm a clinton and i'm a woman - what more do i need to offer you?" wave. ffs, a feeble old man that can't tell up from down is our commander in chief.

It was different. She was coming off of Obama. In the end, people low key disliked Obama enough to get Trump in, but she also got a huge boost off of that. They are trying to do some of the same BS that they did, but people who are saying Kammy is a better candidate than Hillary are probably young. Hillary was set to run and she would have beaten anyone else but Trump; Trump got boosted by the media (and he still does, imagine 10 years of people hanging on your every word,) but Hillary was all set start to finish. She bodies any other republican. It wasn't a 5050 election like this is supposed to be.

Sure, she lost, and that causes people to rethink what actually happened. In the end, it's probably people hoping Kamala will win who are saying that she is the better candidate. Hillary had a lot more going for her, though. She had that woman's power shit before. She was even able to leverage Bill Clinton being a pervert to her own advantage. Like she sidestepped 'the man' and was gonna break the glass ceiling.

Crazy shit happens, but it's hard to see how Kamala doesn't crash and burn. I'm sure there are a lot of things they are going to do to try to get her in, but haha...

One cannot ignore the fact that v Hillary and v Biden, Trump was getting less of the percentage of the vote. He is somehow on the uptick even after Jan6th. I legit will never understand why that dude didn't come out and be like yeahhhh my bad. There were so many ways he could have spun it. I legit think that him not doing that will be the reason he loses if he does. That's the only thing people really have on him that compares to the abomination that Kamala is.

-Smak

DJMcDonald
10-05-2024, 01:44 PM
OP is 5'4

Hey Yo
10-05-2024, 02:58 PM
If Kamalluh camp felt comfortable right now, Obama wouldn't be leaving beautiful Hawaii to fly in and campaign for her in key swing states.

This dude ain't got better shit to do?

https://apnews.com/article/kamala-harris-2024-election-democrats-e7d7fa00961acbfdcb3abd0adbc34010

Patrick Chewing
10-05-2024, 03:11 PM
If Kamalluh camp felt comfortable right now, Obama wouldn't be leaving beautiful Hawaii to fly in and campaign for her in key swing states.

This dude ain't got better shit to do?

https://apnews.com/article/kamala-harris-2024-election-democrats-e7d7fa00961acbfdcb3abd0adbc34010

When he's not busy killing his own personal chef or getting pegged by Michelle, he's out on the campaign trail for a terrible candidate.

Off the Court
10-05-2024, 03:24 PM
Harris is still the favorite to win :confusedshrug:

https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president

Honestly though being 51/49 favorite for either of these candidates doesn't mean much, that is still a virtual coin flip. Both have a clear chance at winning.

TheMan
10-05-2024, 10:11 PM
Harris is still the favorite to win :confusedshrug:

https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president

Honestly though being 51/49 favorite for either of these candidates doesn't mean much, that is still a virtual coin flip. Both have a clear chance at winning.

Hilarious that the Trumpers here are already doing their victory lap :lol

As it stands, both absolutely have a shot at this...for Trump, is there still a secret Trump vote? He has previously over performed the polls (2016, 2020), even if his over performance is a mere percentage point, that could be enough to flip one or more of the Blue Wall states that he needs to reach 270, or have pollsters made the adjustments having two previous national elections that his over performance are already weighed in?

For Harris...win all 3 Blue Wall states (Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin) that Sleepy Joe won in '20, Biden was still competitive in these states when he dropped out, as ridiculous as it sounds. Harris Walz have expanded the Democrats pathways putting Arizona, Nevada, North Carolina and Georgia in play, that's a huge difference. And about about the Blue Wall states, Harris has home field advantage, as they are historically Democratic leaning, just as Trump has the HFA in Georgia, North Carolina and Arizona. Harder to flip in other words..

I don't believe any of the two campaigns should feel overly confident as there are variables that can flip this election either way.

Having said that, I agree with ILLsmak, if Trump would have kept his ego in check and conceded defeat without looking like a big whiney baby, I think he would be running away with this, he gives the Democrats who say he's a danger ro democracy plenty of ammo and if he does in fact lose, that will be one of the main reasons.

1987_Lakers
10-07-2024, 09:33 AM
Harris is still the favorite to win :confusedshrug:

https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president

Honestly though being 51/49 favorite for either of these candidates doesn't mean much, that is still a virtual coin flip. Both have a clear chance at winning.

Things are trending towards Trump, just look at your link again. :lol

Even Trump's lead is widening a bit in the first link in my OP.

All swing states are slowly moving towards Trump.

And we all know Trump has outperformed his poll numbers by a significant amount in previous times he has ran.

Off the Court
10-07-2024, 10:33 AM
Things are trending towards Trump, just look at your link again. :lol

Even Trump's lead is widening a bit in the first link in my OP.

All swing states are slowly moving towards Trump.

And we all know Trump has outperformed his poll numbers by a significant amount in previous times he has ran.

Okay but, my entire point was that having a 51/49 Vegas odds edge means little to nothing. I mean you clearly have your hopes up as though that 1 percentage point means Trump will win, but the reality is that the gamblers are saying this is a virtual coin flip.

If the odds were shifting 75/25 or even 60/40 then okay, that is a clear lead. But these two have been teetering over tiny amounts.

Also the major pollsters claim to have adjusted their systems to fit the mishaps of 2020 and 2016. I don't trust that is actually the case, but FWIW that is what they are claiming.

1987_Lakers
10-07-2024, 10:39 AM
Michigan is looking crazy. This state was an easy victory for Harris, but now it's a coin flip. It was at 68% chance of victory for Harris just 10 days ago, now it's at 52% for Harris. If Harris loses this state, it's basically over.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROX4IyD6hvw

1987_Lakers
10-07-2024, 10:46 AM
Okay but, my entire point was that having a 51/49 Vegas odds edge means little to nothing.

Your link doesn't have it at 51/49 anymore.

Off the Court
10-07-2024, 11:16 AM
Your link doesn't have it at 51/49 anymore.

right it's at 50/50

which is virtually the same as 51/49

my point



like if either candidate is ahead 51/49, Trump or Kamala, it doesn't really mean a whole lot. Get it?

If those were sports teams that played 100 times, one would win 51 times and the other would win 49 times. That is what Vegas is saying.

TheMan
10-07-2024, 02:10 PM
Michigan is looking crazy. This state was an easy victory for Harris, but now it's a coin flip. It was at 68% chance of victory for Harris just 10 days ago, now it's at 52% for Harris. If Harris loses this state, it's basically over.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROX4IyD6hvw

He's not flipping Michigan, if he flips a Blue Wall state, it's more likely gonna be Wisconsin or Pennsylvania. If he flips Michigan, that means his odds of winning all 3 BWSs are huge and that's just not happening with how close this election is, it would be the equivalent of the Democrats taking all the Sun Belt states, Arizona, Nevada, North Carolina and Georgia, and that ain't happening.

Polls only tell you so much and it's a snapshot of the race at that particular moment, not what will happen on election day. The most accurate polls are the ones days ahead of the election...and as I've said many times, it's a close race and it's gonna come down to who turns out their base along with whom the independents break towards to...in short, Trump's ace is that hidden Trump vote, Harris is higher turnout means that people who don't usually vote are voting and that favors the Democrats.

Off the Court
10-07-2024, 05:03 PM
One of the issues in 2016 and 2020 is that most pollsters didn't adjust for education levels. There were high numbers of college grads polled, and not many blue-collar. So that is why polls leaned heavy Clinton. Lots of mobile home types came out to vote and the pollsters didn't foresee that.

Supposedly they are now aware and have adjusted. And I think we saw that during midterms where the polls leaned too far right.

SouBeachTalents
10-07-2024, 05:24 PM
I've said it before, but I feel like the polls have been very unreliable the past 10 years or so. In 2016 Hillary was the clear favorite the entire race and lost, 2020 Biden was supposed to win comfortably but ending up winning a close race, 2022 was supposed to be a red wave and the Republicans badly underperformed.

It does feel like this race is going to be a coinflip, but the polls have been off their game for quite a while.

Off the Court
10-07-2024, 05:40 PM
I've said it before, but I feel like the polls have been very unreliable the past 10 years or so. In 2016 Hillary was the clear favorite the entire race and lost, 2020 Biden was supposed to win comfortably but ending up winning a close race, 2022 was supposed to be a red wave and the Republicans badly underperformed.

It does feel like this race is going to be a coinflip, but the polls have been off their game for quite a while.

538 claims that the way they have weighted everything currently would have produced a perfect outcome for 2020.

I am definitely skeptical though.

I am hoping that what happened during midterms is that they actually over-corrected.

ILLsmak
10-07-2024, 08:05 PM
It’s just irrational to think they can have a rolling poll that ends up being more right closer to the election.

They seem good for measuring trends though, but that’s assuming they are trying to poll correctly which even if you think most are, you have to concede some aren’t. It’s like oh that’s a d poll or an r poll, why would that matter??

I think Trump has the majority chance to win atm but he could lose. It just takes a little shift.

-Smak

1987_Lakers
10-07-2024, 10:48 PM
right it's at 50/50

Trump now up over 3 points in the link you originally posted saying Harris was still the favorite.

Ouch.

Lakers Legend#32
10-08-2024, 01:44 AM
The more Trump babbles incoherently, MAGAS think this increases his poll numbers with the non-hillbilly vote.

TheMan
10-08-2024, 05:28 AM
Trump now up over 3 points in the link you originally posted saying Harris was still the favorite.

Ouch.

It's baffling that you claim that the more Harris speaks, the less likely she is of winning when to anyone with a brain and a little bit of intelligence would be insulted with the amount of stupid shit Trump says and gets away with. Can you come up with anything that Harris has said that is as idiotic and untruthful as illegal immigrants are eating American's cats and dogs? And that's just his latest insane shit he's spouted, how about nuking hurricanes? I dare you to find something Harris has said that is on that level of stupidity.

I don't even like Harris and I don't like defending her but the amount of idiotic shit Trump gets away with is really pathetic and sad, we are definitely in full blown decadence mode with the amount of morons like you who give Trump a pass while taking Harris to task for the lesser dumb shit she says.

And I can mention a bunch more moronic shit that Trump has said off the top of my head, like shining a flashlight inside your body or ingesting clorox to combat covid :roll:

ILLsmak
10-08-2024, 08:51 AM
Yo on 60s minutes they got her answers cut while the interviewer explains what she said haha. What a joke!

-Smak

Jasper
10-08-2024, 09:43 AM
here is what happens to Tariff's and tax benefits - https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/chart-of-the-day-who-would-benefit-from-trump-s-tax-and-tariff-plans/ar-AA1rR2Fb

Tell me how this helps you ??

1987_Lakers
10-08-2024, 09:48 AM
Yo on 60s minutes they got her answers cut while the interviewer explains what she said haha. What a joke!

-Smak

I saw this too. :oldlol:

Jasper
10-08-2024, 09:50 AM
tell me how taking from poor to divert to money (155 million for disaster relief ) goes to immigration ??

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/george-conway-sums-up-a-donald-trump-tactic-with-2-words-from-adolf-hitler/ar-AA1rOtSg?cvid=47226d23db624fb1f7416fa7988e9e1c&ei=11

How does that help disaster relief and the poor ???

Hey Yo
10-08-2024, 10:31 AM
Yo on 60s minutes they got her answers cut while the interviewer explains what she said haha. What a joke!

-Smak

She was asked 3x about the amount of illegals quadrupling on her watch since getting in the White house... and we get this.

https://x.com/ClayTravis/status/1843449294008836567?t=LuSfdPwpTnZjReYxVIiWDg&s=19

She showing the world what most already knew.... not qualified in the least bit to run this country

Hey Yo
10-08-2024, 10:49 AM
When asked about all her flip-flopping

https://x.com/ClayTravis/status/1843448204505034900?t=sfEUbIhhw3Q6oAAlgLoc_A&s=19

Huh??? :roll:

Lakers Legend#32
10-08-2024, 03:43 PM
Only in the right-wing media does Trump appear the favorite.

TheMan
10-09-2024, 10:03 AM
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTF5MAfBK/
So much out there, we've become immune to his endless stupidity, that has to be the explanation.

1987_Lakers
10-10-2024, 09:12 AM
He's not flipping Michigan

Polls have him taking Michigan now.

rmt
10-10-2024, 09:25 AM
Colbert's interview with Kamala - this is AFTER The View interview and here's her answer to a similar question - she goes off into her "aspirations and dreams/love our small business" spiel - smh


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6eZw3GzmPGc

rmt
10-10-2024, 09:29 AM
And she STILL doesn't understand what a $50k tax DEDUCTION is - you'd think someone would clue her in.

Patrick Chewing
10-10-2024, 11:13 AM
Polls have him taking Michigan now.

A lot of these people are in denial. The pulse on the streets is definitely in favor of Trump.

TheMan
10-10-2024, 12:11 PM
Polls have him taking Michigan now.

Doesn't mean anything today, election day ain't today, just like Harris was up a week ago, election day wasn't a week ago...keep up.

Hey Yo
10-10-2024, 12:15 PM
Doesn't mean anything today, election day ain't today, just like Harris was up a week ago, election day wasn't a week ago...keep up.

shook

TheMan
10-10-2024, 12:16 PM
A lot of these people are in denial. The pulse on the streets is definitely in favor of Trump.

This thing can go either way, I've been saying this forever. The main reason I think she'll win is turnout, I think turnout will be huge, historically favors the Dems, If I'm wrong on turnout, then Trump def has the advantage, but as I was telling 1987_Lakers, it doesn't really matter a month out who's winning in the polls, the polls closest to election day tend to be the most accurate.

TheMan
10-10-2024, 12:16 PM
shook

Lol

Patrick Chewing
10-10-2024, 01:00 PM
This thing can go either way, I've been saying this forever. The main reason I think she'll win is turnout, I think turnout will be huge, historically favors the Dems, If I'm wrong on turnout, then Trump def has the advantage, but as I was telling 1987_Lakers, it doesn't really matter a month out who's winning in the polls, the polls closest to election day tend to be the most accurate.

I don't see how you can say turnout will be huge when Kamala was the least liked Democrat nominee in the 2020 primaries. She polled at 3%! She wasn't elected to run in 2024, so I honestly don't know how in the world you think that the turnout will be huge for a candidate who is not very liked within her own party.

There might be an increase in turnout, but for Donald Trump. There is no way Kamala comes close to the amount of votes that Joe Biden got in 2020. She will lose.

Off the Court
10-10-2024, 01:25 PM
I don't see how you can say turnout will be huge when Kamala was the least liked Democrat nominee in the 2020 primaries. She polled at 3%! She wasn't elected to run in 2024, so I honestly don't know how in the world you think that the turnout will be huge for a candidate who is not very liked within her own party.

There might be an increase in turnout, but for Donald Trump. There is no way Kamala comes close to the amount of votes that Joe Biden got in 2020. She will lose.

The turnout always increases each election for both candidates. I think it's dipped like two or three times ever.

The population grows, the number of registered voters grows, the total number of voters grows.

It isn't about popularity, and Trump is going to bring the anti-Trump votes regardless. If you don't think Roe vs Wade ruffled any feathers you're not paying attention.

Off the Court
10-10-2024, 01:26 PM
I think Musk alone is ruffling enough feathers to bring a record amount of anti-Trump votes.

Patrick Chewing
10-10-2024, 01:27 PM
Uh oh....

https://polymarket.com/elections



:lol

ShawkFactory
10-10-2024, 01:45 PM
A lot of these people are in denial. The pulse on the streets is definitely in favor of Trump.

Well yea I mean don't you not associate with Liberals? Obviously that's your perspective :lol

Off the Court
10-10-2024, 02:29 PM
"The pulse on the streets" :roll:

When it comes to the entire election

Patrick Chewing
10-10-2024, 02:56 PM
The pulse on the streets is a real thing, fellas. When you decide to leave your virginity caves and enter the real world and walk the streets, you will know what I am talking about.

Off the Court
10-10-2024, 03:41 PM
*Chewing sees an internet poll lean Trump's way*

"The vibe I'm feelin on all the country's streets is....." :roll:

TheMan
10-10-2024, 05:30 PM
I don't see how you can say turnout will be huge when Kamala was the least liked Democrat nominee in the 2020 primaries. She polled at 3%! She wasn't elected to run in 2024, so I honestly don't know how in the world you think that the turnout will be huge for a candidate who is not very liked within her own party.

There might be an increase in turnout, but for Donald Trump. There is no way Kamala comes close to the amount of votes that Joe Biden got in 2020. She will lose.

Yet Harris has higher favorability rating than Trump :lol

Bill Gates
10-10-2024, 06:06 PM
https://x.com/NateSilver538/status/1844432550498120072

1987_Lakers
10-11-2024, 10:15 AM
Harris is still the favorite to win :confusedshrug:

https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president

Honestly though being 51/49 favorite for either of these candidates doesn't mean much, that is still a virtual coin flip. Both have a clear chance at winning.

Trump now up almost 10 points in this link you posted. :oldlol:

1987_Lakers
10-11-2024, 10:16 AM
Cenk is worried.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HOFh-iuHSk&t

Patrick Chewing
10-11-2024, 10:28 AM
Trump now up almost 10 points in this link you posted. :oldlol:

:roll:


That shit is hilarious.

Off the Court
10-11-2024, 10:30 AM
Trump now up almost 10 points in this link you posted. :oldlol:

Okay, Trump is a slight favorite now. Did you read the rest of my post though? 55/45 is still a virtual coin flip, but you are using it to celebrate a Trump victory.

I can't even begin to imagine the epic meltdown you're goin got have if Kamala wins.

Patrick Chewing
10-11-2024, 10:32 AM
Okay, Trump is a slight favorite now. Did you read the rest of my post though? 55/45 is still a virtual coin flip, but you are using it to celebrate a Trump victory.

I can't even begin to imagine the epic meltdown you're goin got have if Kamala wins.

Bahahahahahahahahaha!!!! No it is not!!

:roll:

1987_Lakers
10-11-2024, 10:34 AM
Okay, Trump is a slight favorite now. Did you read the rest of my post though? 55/45 is still a virtual coin flip, but you are using it to celebrate a Trump victory.

I can't even begin to imagine the epic meltdown you're goin got have if Kamala wins.

55/45 is not a coinfllp. It is a good lead. 60/40 is a blowout when talking elections and Trump isn't far from that.

But keep coping.

1987_Lakers
10-11-2024, 10:37 AM
Things are trending towards Trump, just look at your link again. :lol

Even Trump's lead is widening a bit in the first link in my OP.

All swing states are slowly moving towards Trump.

And we all know Trump has outperformed his poll numbers by a significant amount in previous times he has ran.

I warned all these Kamala supporters that Trump was only widening his lead, but they wouldn't listen. Now look at the polls.

https://media.tenor.com/1hlTNcVLVS4AAAAM/jordan-shrug.gif

Off the Court
10-11-2024, 10:58 AM
Well damn, I guess Trump won then. It's over. :oldlol:

the polls say so

Off the Court
10-11-2024, 11:03 AM
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2024-election-forecast/?cid=rrpromo

uh oh, wait this one has Harris winning 55/45

and since we know, 55% of the time they win 100% of the time, I guess that means Harris will win for sure.

Patrick Chewing
10-11-2024, 11:08 AM
OTC scrambling for good news right now :oldlol:

Off the Court
10-11-2024, 11:15 AM
OTC scrambling for good news right now :oldlol:

Yeah I found it! Harris is ahead 55/45. And you just said that means she wins!

F@#k yeah!

Patrick Chewing
10-11-2024, 11:39 AM
Yeah I found it! Harris is ahead 55/45. And you just said that means she wins!

F@#k yeah!

You're melting down right now. Relax. Trump can only be President for 4 more years. You'll be fine.

Lakers Legend#32
10-11-2024, 12:35 PM
The pulse on the streets is a real thing, fellas. When you decide to leave your virginity caves and enter the real world and walk the streets, you will know what I am talking about.

When Poopsie says the "streets," he means Daily Wire.

1987_Lakers
10-11-2024, 12:43 PM
Embarrassing for OTC to post a 538 link which is owned by ABC, the same company/network who is extremely pro left and moderated a lopsided debate while also ignoring all the other polls which clearly has Trump winning. Every betting site has Trump as the favorite now, but OTC can keep coping.

Off the Court
10-11-2024, 01:32 PM
Embarrassing for OTC to post a 538 link which is owned by ABC, the same company/network who is extremely pro left and moderated a lopsided debate while also ignoring all the other polls which clearly has Trump winning. Every betting site has Trump as the favorite now, but OTC can keep coping.

You're the one desperate for confirmation :oldlol:

Even when Kamala was the betting favorite I said it was a coin flip. Because I don't need confirmation.

1987_Lakers
10-11-2024, 01:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12m0yoFdla8

Not even left wing news can ignore this.

Bill Gates
10-11-2024, 01:46 PM
If you want accurate odds as to who will win look at Nate Silver and Allan Lichtman. Both famous statisticians. Lichtman has predicted the last 10 elections and was one of the few who predicted the 2016 Trump victory. Silver was also very high on Trump in 2016 and has been analyzing polls forever. He is the founder of 538 but left them. He knows which polls are trustworthy and which ones are flawed.

TheMan
10-12-2024, 01:03 PM
If you want accurate odds as to who will win look at Nate Silver and Allan Lichtman. Both famous statisticians. Lichtman has predicted the last 10 elections and was one of the few who predicted the 2016 Trump victory. Silver was also very high on Trump in 2016 and has been analyzing polls forever. He is the founder of 538 but left them. He knows which polls are trustworthy and which ones are flawed.

While Nate Silver was more bullish on a Trump surprise victory in 2016, he still had Hillary winning like 70 something percent IIRC. Polls are all over the place rn, some have Trump as favorite, while others still have Harris holding on to the 3 most important states for Democrats, the Blue Wall states.

I still have as Trump slight favorite because Harris is just not a good candidate but if turnout is big, meaning not just taking into account population growth but that women and young people who don't usually vote and an uptick in black voters, then Harris should be slightly favorite. Anyways, both candidates suck ass :lol

1987_Lakers
10-15-2024, 09:54 AM
https://polymarket.com/elections

My goodness. Trump now at 57%, Kamala at 43%.

Kamala has no choice but to take interviews everywhere. Take a Fox News interview, go on Joe Rogan. What do you have to lose?

Bill Gates
10-15-2024, 10:04 AM
While Nate Silver was more bullish on a Trump surprise victory in 2016, he still had Hillary winning like 70 something percent IIRC. Polls are all over the place rn, some have Trump as favorite, while others still have Harris holding on to the 3 most important states for Democrats, the Blue Wall states.

I still have as Trump slight favorite because Harris is just not a good candidate but if turnout is big, meaning not just taking into account population growth but that women and young people who don't usually vote and an uptick in black voters, then Harris should be slightly favorite. Anyways, both candidates suck ass :lol
This is from 2016:
https://www.vox.com/2016/11/3/13147678/nate-silver-fivethirtyeight-trump-forecast

And since those days he has learned a lot. That is why he broke off from 538, he can see their flaws and he has his own model.

Bill Gates
10-15-2024, 10:05 AM
https://x.com/tbonier/status/1845635982562820263


This should worry Republicans.

I've been saying repeatedly, whoever wins PA wins the election.

Hey Yo
10-15-2024, 10:09 AM
https://polymarket.com/elections

My goodness. Trump now at 57%, Kamala at 43%.

Kamala has no choice but to take interviews everywhere. Take a Fox News interview, go on Joe Rogan. What do you have to lose?

She's doing Fox news tomorrow night with Brett Baier. It's going to be taped at 5pm est... and his show goes on at 6pm.

There's zero chance she'd be doing this if they weren't desperate and knowing they were slipping in the polls.

1987_Lakers
10-15-2024, 10:11 AM
She doing Fox news tomorrow night with Brett Baier. It's going to be taped at 5pm est... and his show goes on at 6pm.

There's zero chance she'd be doing this if they weren't desperate and knowing they were slipping in the polls.

I did not know this. They went from hiding her from interviews, then went to softball interviews, that backfired and now have no choice but to take tough interviews. :oldlol:

Bill Gates
10-15-2024, 10:12 AM
She's also going on Joe Rogan

tpols
10-15-2024, 10:13 AM
I dont see trump being able to win with the mail in voting scam and all the illegal votes they will count. They can just flip all the swing states a week after the election like they did last time and there's nothing anybody can do about it.

Bill Gates
10-15-2024, 10:16 AM
I dont see trump being able to win with the mail in voting scam and all the illegal votes they will count. They can just flip all the swing states a week after the election like they did last time and there's nothing anybody can do about it.

Mail in isn't as heavy left as it was in 2020. In 2020 Republican voters made it a point to vote in person to prove they weren't scared of covid. That isn't a thing any more. Now old voters are okay with mailing it in.

SouBeachTalents
10-15-2024, 10:16 AM
The current polling in the only states that matter

Pennsylvania: Trump by 0.1%

Georgia: Trump by 0.5%

Michigan: Kamala by 0.1%

North Carolina: Trump by 1.6%

Arizona: Trump by 1.8%

Wisconsin: Kamala by 0.3%

Nevada: Trump by 0.6%

I would agree that Trump is the slight favorite for now, but this shit is still WAY too close to call.

Hey Yo
10-15-2024, 10:19 AM
quoted wrong person

Bill Gates
10-15-2024, 10:21 AM
The current polling in the only states that matter

Pennsylvania: Trump by 0.1%

Georgia: Trump by 0.5%

Michigan: Kamala by 0.1%

North Carolina: Trump by 1.6%

Arizona: Trump by 1.8%

Wisconsin: Kamala by 0.3%

Nevada: Trump by 0.6%

I would agree that Trump is the slight favorite for now, but this shit is still WAY too close to call.

Silver has:

PA: Dem +0.6
Mich: Dem +1.1
Wis: +Dem 1.0
NC: +Rep 0.8
Geor: +Rep 0.9
ARZ: +Rep 1.6
Nev: +Dem 0.8

Hey Yo
10-15-2024, 10:21 AM
I did not know this. They went from hiding her from interviews, then went to softball interviews, that backfired and now have no choice but to take tough interviews. :oldlol:
It was announced yesterday afternoon sometime. Brett's a good guy... it'll be interesting to see how hard he goes on her.

TheMan
10-15-2024, 12:16 PM
https://polymarket.com/elections

My goodness. Trump now at 57%, Kamala at 43%.

Kamala has no choice but to take interviews everywhere. Take a Fox News interview, go on Joe Rogan. What do you have to lose?

You keep harping on that it's her interviews that have her polls slipping but that's a low IQ take, Trump does a bunch of interviews where it's all just generalities and word salads but he keeps hammering his go to points (mass deportations basically), Harris is slipping because she went away from her populist positions she started out with in this campaign in the hopes of attracting disaffected Republicans, like touting the Cheneys, Dubya's, Romney and other prominent Republicans endorsements and going right on economic issues (corporate friendly), nobody wants to hear that shit. If she would've kept that populist message, she would be clearly ahead by now but the cowardly Democrats don't want to ruffle Corporate America's feathers. She had the chance to separate herself from Biden but she hasn't, that's why her polls are where they're at and they will keep going down if her campaign keeps going on the path they're going.

TheMan
10-15-2024, 12:28 PM
The current polling in the only states that matter

Pennsylvania: Trump by 0.1%

Georgia: Trump by 0.5%

Michigan: Kamala by 0.1%

North Carolina: Trump by 1.6%

Arizona: Trump by 1.8%

Wisconsin: Kamala by 0.3%

Nevada: Trump by 0.6%

I would agree that Trump is the slight favorite for now, but this shit is still WAY too close to call.

Right, it's a toss up, could go either way but as I stated in my previous post, had the Harris campaign stuck to their populist message, this election had the potential to be a Democratic blowout. Everyone knows Trump and the GOP are corporate whores, Democrats need to be firmly on the middle and working class side but they're choosing to be GOP lite, basically the same shit on economic issues, just differing on social issues, that's not a winning message.

If they would've chosen Sanders as the nominee for example, he'd be stomping the Don right now.

Off the Court
10-15-2024, 12:35 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GZ59TJUXoAAYj54?format=jpg&name=large



I wonder how this will affect the polls :roll:

Off the Court
10-15-2024, 12:36 PM
He really just stood there bopping his head for 40 min? :oldlol:

diamenz
10-15-2024, 12:39 PM
He really just stood there bopping his head for 40 min? :oldlol:

it's similar to you when you're kneeling in front of impotent-joe.

Off the Court
10-15-2024, 12:49 PM
it's similar to you when you're kneeling in front of impotent-joe.

Okay, very MAGA defensive today. You seem to flop back and forth with the polls.

But sure, Joe and Trump are both impotent. That's what happens when you turn 100

Off the Court
10-15-2024, 12:51 PM
Seriously though wtf was the crowd doing during the 40 min Trump dance? Looking at their watches and wondering wtf is going on? :oldlol:

I mean, that is much bigger dementia episode than just fumbling some words around.

diamenz
10-15-2024, 12:59 PM
Okay, very MAGA defensive today. You seem to flop back and forth with the polls.

But sure, Joe and Trump are both impotent. That's what happens when you turn 100

depends on how i feel any given day and which side of the political spectrum here is showcasing more stupidity.

let's face it though - you set yourself up for that one.

Off the Court
10-15-2024, 01:01 PM
depends on how i feel any given day and which side of the political spectrum here is showcasing more stupidity.


I mean, he stood there dancing for 40 minutes :oldlol:

ArbitraryWater
10-15-2024, 01:07 PM
She's also going on Joe Rogan

Wtf?

jstern
10-15-2024, 06:38 PM
I dont see trump being able to win with the mail in voting scam and all the illegal votes they will count. They can just flip all the swing states a week after the election like they did last time and there's nothing anybody can do about it.

This is my major concern. Whenever I hear positive news regarding Trump and his poling, it's almost irrelevant. They selected a nincompoop who has trouble speaking off the cuff, instead of someone who seems reasonably competent, and that's probably because she's a puppet, and the fact that she comes across as a moron to most Americans is irrelevant, because they can just steal the election, and then have YouTube remove your channel if you mention it. Similar case with Biden. If voter fraud wasn't an option for them, then they would have picked somebody that comes across as competent, and hope that they can manipulate this person to do what they tell them to. (Which is not needed with Kamala and Biden, thus their high value.)


Mail in isn't as heavy left as it was in 2020. In 2020 Republican voters made it a point to vote in person to prove they weren't scared of covid. That isn't a thing any more. Now old voters are okay with mailing it in.

This guy has the same low IQ as Off the Court. Very, very low comprehension. Whether you agree with tpols about voter fraud or not, tpols post is very clear. He believes that they will flip swing states, or any necessary state with fake votes. And what do you respond with? "That's not going to work, because mail in is not as heavy left as if was in 2020." It completely doesn't address tpol's voter fraud point, which renders who votes irrelevant.


it's similar to you when you're kneeling in front of impotent-joe.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/images/smilies/lol.gif

Off the Court
10-15-2024, 06:53 PM
Early voting turnout in Georgia just smash last election's turnout.

The turnout for this election is going to be enormous.

That used to favor Dems but I don't know if that holds true like it used to. I guess we will see.

1987_Lakers
10-15-2024, 10:07 PM
Harris is still the favorite to win :confusedshrug:

https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president


This link now has it at almost +14 for Trump.

Media Moderator
10-15-2024, 10:24 PM
This link now has it at almost +14 for Trump.

I hate polls like these. At least it seems like from the midterms and the 2016 election, reality was opposite of what the polls said :oldlol:

I think I'd feel better if they said Trump was down :oldlol:

Off the Court
10-15-2024, 10:40 PM
https://x.com/krassenstein/status/1846206695749619937

Dems killing it in early voting

1987_Lakers
10-15-2024, 10:45 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkv9t1wdU58

TheMan
10-16-2024, 04:01 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkv9t1wdU58

You're hanging on to betting markets like they know what's going on, they were off in 16 and 22, so 2 out of the last 3, I wouldn't trust them that much :lol If Trump loses, seek help, you're way to heavily invested. It's gonna be alright bro, trust me.

Anyways...people in the crowd straight up laughing at Trump at his 4th grade level answers

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTFH75j7s/

TheMan
10-16-2024, 04:13 AM
Early voting turnout in Georgia just smash last election's turnout.

The turnout for this election is going to be enormous.

That used to favor Dems but I don't know if that holds true like it used to. I guess we will see.

Huge spike in young black female voter registration and I doubt they're voting for the Don, and Georgia has the biggest black electorate of the 7 swing states, these black chicks can definitely deliver the state to Camel Toe. If Harris wins GA, then she can lose 1 of the 3 blue wall states, even PA so long as she wins NV where she's leading. Big turn out = Dem victory, there I said it.

ZenMaster
10-16-2024, 05:22 AM
You're hanging on to betting markets like they know what's going on, they were off in 16 and 22, so 2 out of the last 3, I wouldn't trust them that much :lol If Trump loses, seek help, you're way to heavily invested. It's gonna be alright bro, trust me.

Anyways...people in the crowd straight up laughing at Trump at his 4th grade level answers

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTFH75j7s/

For someone describing himself as neutral, you sure end up posting quite the hardcore anti Trump propaganda. Every one of his answers are edited to make it seem incoherent and fit the description of "he can't answer". That crowd was applauding Trump for what he said on tariffs.

TheMan
10-16-2024, 08:42 AM
For someone describing himself as neutral, you sure end up posting quite the hardcore anti Trump propaganda. Every one of his answers are edited to make it seem incoherent and fit the description of "he can't answer". That crowd was applauding Trump for what he said on tariffs.
I dislike both candidates, but especially Trump because he's the most fake "populist" ever. At least Harris is who we thought she was and doesn't pretend to be otherwise, a run of the mill corporate Democrat but Trump's supporters really do believe he gives a shit about them when anyone with half a brain could see through his bullshit, at least I would hope so.

Again, make no mistake, BOTH of them are ass. Only you guys actually think Trump is not which is cute and pathetic at the same time :oldlol:

1987_Lakers
10-16-2024, 09:25 AM
You're hanging on to betting markets like they know what's going on, they were off in 16 and 22, so 2 out of the last 3, I wouldn't trust them that much :lol If Trump loses, seek help, you're way to heavily invested. It's gonna be alright bro, trust me.

Anyways...people in the crowd straight up laughing at Trump at his 4th grade level answers

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTFH75j7s/

You seem very shook from these polls.

1987_Lakers
10-16-2024, 09:36 AM
You keep harping on that it's her interviews that have her polls slipping but that's a low IQ take.

It's not a coincidence, Kamala started to do interviews in late September, Trump took the lead in the polls in early October.

Last week Kamala went on a media blitz with 60 minutes, The View, etc and this week Trump widened his lead.

It seems the more she opens her mouth, the more it hurts her.

Off the Court
10-16-2024, 09:58 AM
Huge spike in young black female voter registration and I doubt they're voting for the Don, and Georgia has the biggest black electorate of the 7 swing states, these black chicks can definitely deliver the state to Camel Toe. If Harris wins GA, then she can lose 1 of the 3 blue wall states, even PA so long as she wins NV where she's leading. Big turn out = Dem victory, there I said it.

328,000 early voters in Georgia, shattering last election's record of 128,000

Kamala has 85% of the total black vote and if we are talking just female blacks? I can only imagine that is somewhere like 95%. Probably 75% of black males and 95% of black females averaging it out to 85%

And yes, it is super early but it looks like Kamala can take Georgia. The one state where the black vote is actually meaningful.

1987_Lakers
10-16-2024, 10:07 AM
Speaking of the black vote


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-L9oIPIB3s&t

ZenMaster
10-16-2024, 10:12 AM
I dislike both candidates, but especially Trump because he's the most fake "populist" ever. At least Harris is who we thought she was and doesn't pretend to be otherwise, a run of the mill corporate Democrat but Trump's supporters really do believe he gives a shit about them when anyone with half a brain could see through his bullshit, at least I would hope so.

Again, make no mistake, BOTH of them are ass. Only you guys actually think Trump is not which is cute and pathetic at the same time :oldlol:

Pretty ironic that you want people to see through his bullshit, but do so by posting highly edited videos to make his answers seem terrible and give an impression the crowd was laughing at him, when they actually cheered.
Is that a deliberate tactic of yours, lying to get others to achieve the same higher clarity as yourself?

And your thing about Harris is just messed up, "at least she doesn't pretend otherwise" when the whole thing about being a corporate dem or repub is pretending otherwise, which is why she's out there using different accents, claiming to have worked at McDonalds and what not. Corporate dems and repubs are the reason the country is in it's current mess.

RRR3
10-16-2024, 10:19 AM
Pretty ironic that you want people to see through his bullshit, but do so by posting highly edited videos to make his answers seem terrible and give an impression the crowd was laughing at him, when they actually cheered.
Is that a deliberate tactic of yours, lying to get others to achieve the same higher clarity as yourself?

And your thing about Harris is just messed up, "at least she doesn't pretend otherwise" when the whole thing about being a corporate dem or repub is pretending otherwise, which is why she's out there using different accents, claiming to have worked at McDonalds and what not. Corporate dems and repubs are the reason the country is in its current mess.
So we should fix the mess by electing another republican? Truly a brilliant strategy.

TheMan
10-16-2024, 11:28 AM
You seem very shook from these polls.

Polls don't mean shit, whomever turns out their base is who takes the game and the Dems have been beating the GOP since 2018 at that game.

Cope harder.

TheMan
10-16-2024, 11:30 AM
It's not a coincidence, Kamala started to do interviews in late September, Trump took the lead in the polls in early October.

Last week Kamala went on a media blitz with 60 minutes, The View, etc and this week Trump widened his lead.

It seems the more she opens her mouth, the more it hurts her.

It's her policy positions bro. If it were only about doing interviews, Trump would be in single digits because of the endless stream of retarded shit that comes out of his mouth.

TheMan
10-16-2024, 11:34 AM
Pretty ironic that you want people to see through his bullshit, but do so by posting highly edited videos to make his answers seem terrible and give an impression the crowd was laughing at him, when they actually cheered.
Is that a deliberate tactic of yours, lying to get others to achieve the same higher clarity as yourself?

And your thing about Harris is just messed up, "at least she doesn't pretend otherwise" when the whole thing about being a corporate dem or repub is pretending otherwise, which is why she's out there using different accents, claiming to have worked at McDonalds and what not. Corporate dems and repubs are the reason the country is in it's current mess.

Trump says a lot of shit that the working class likes but did he actually deliver during his 4 year term, absolutely not. He presided like any other GOP president, the biggest tax cut to the rich that added trillions to the national debt, the wealthy got more wealthy on our dime, you good with that?

1987_Lakers
10-16-2024, 12:44 PM
It's her policy positions bro.

She has no policy positions.

Bill Gates
10-16-2024, 12:49 PM
She has no policy positions.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx924r4d5yno

Here are her positions on all of the top issues. You should consider reading them instead of pretending they don't exist.

rmt
10-16-2024, 02:06 PM
Just like the jobs numbers being revised downward, FBI revises crime numbers UPWARD (a 6.6% swing) but not a word about it - smh.

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2024/10/16/stealth_edit_fbi_quietly_revises_violent_crime_sta ts_1065396.html

When the FBI originally released the “final” crime data for 2022 in September 2023, it reported that the nation’s violent crime rate fell by 2.1%. This quickly became, and remains, a Democratic Party talking point to counter Donald Trump’s claims of soaring crime.

But the FBI has quietly revised those numbers, releasing new data that shows violent crime increased in 2022 by 4.5%. The new data includes thousands more murders, rapes, robberies, and aggravated assaults.

The Bureau – which has been at the center of partisan storms – made no mention of these revisions in its September 2024 press release.

1987_Lakers
10-16-2024, 02:10 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx924r4d5yno

Here are her positions on all of the top issues. You should consider reading them instead of pretending they don't exist.

She’s not being specific on any of these policies in any of her interviews, she dodges every question that has to do with policy. She would be told what to do like a good puppet that she is.

Norcaliblunt
10-16-2024, 03:07 PM
She’s not being specific on any of these policies in any of her interviews, she dodges every question that has to do with policy. She would be told what to do like a good puppet that she is.

Homie I know this is your first election but a democrat or a republican is going to win.

Stop trippin.

TheMan
10-16-2024, 10:42 PM
Homie I know this is your first election but a democrat or a republican is going to win.

Stop trippin.

:lol

Off the Court
10-17-2024, 09:55 AM
https://x.com/BryanLlenas/status/1845981973514478033


Here is Trump playing music from extreme leftist Sinead O'Connor while he dances.

Sinead O'Conner once ripped up a picture of the Pope on live TV.



Where is diamenz? I wonder what he thinks about that.

1987_Lakers
10-17-2024, 09:57 AM
Harris is still the favorite to win :confusedshrug:

https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president

This link now has it at +16 for Trump.

Lakers Legend#32
10-17-2024, 05:15 PM
The real October Surprise is that Trump is losing all his marbles.

ZenMaster
10-17-2024, 06:16 PM
Trump says a lot of shit that the working class likes but did he actually deliver during his 4 year term, absolutely not. He presided like any other GOP president, the biggest tax cut to the rich that added trillions to the national debt, the wealthy got more wealthy on our dime, you good with that?

Your opinion is yours to have, but I'm not sure what the connection is between this and passing on maliciously edited videos as factual.

TheMan
10-17-2024, 06:52 PM
Your opinion is yours to have, but I'm not sure what the connection is between this and passing on maliciously edited videos as factual.

It's not my opinion, quick, name 3 specific economic policies that Trump pushed through that specifically helped the middle and working class...you can't.

ZenMaster
10-17-2024, 08:33 PM
It's not my opinion, quick, name 3 specific economic policies that Trump pushed through that specifically helped the middle and working class...you can't.

It's most definitely opinion.

RRR3
10-17-2024, 08:50 PM
It's most definitely opinion.
No it isn't, you're ****ing delusional. No President ever has truly given power to the working class.

ArbitraryWater
10-17-2024, 08:51 PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx924r4d5yno

Here are her positions on all of the top issues. You should consider reading them instead of pretending they don't exist.


A BBC Article? :D


Didnt she at first copy Bidens policies onto her Website?


Intentional ineptitude, and you go along lol.

1987_Lakers
10-21-2024, 09:36 AM
This is pretty bad, polymarket currently has it at 62/38 in favor of Trump.

Most betting sites have him at 60/40 as well.

Bill Gates
10-21-2024, 09:42 AM
This is pretty bad, polymarket currently has it at 62/38 in favor of Trump.

Most betting sites have him at 60/40 as well.

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/qt4vTGjj4mwAMwDsr/the-mysterious-trump-buyers-on-polymarket

It was shifted to that by just 4 people.

If you want accurate odds look at Nate Silver

1987_Lakers
10-21-2024, 09:46 AM
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/qt4vTGjj4mwAMwDsr/the-mysterious-trump-buyers-on-polymarket

It was shifted to that by just 4 people.

If you want accurate odds look at Nate Silver


https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president

Every betting site has it at 60/40 in favor of Trump.

New polls in Pennsylvania has Trump winning that state by +3.

But it's hilarious seeing Trump haters coping in this thread.

Bill Gates
10-21-2024, 09:56 AM
https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president

Every betting site has it at 60/40 in favor of Trump.

New polls in Pennsylvania has Trump winning that state by +3.

But it's hilarious seeing Trump haters coping in this thread.

Nate Silver has Trump in the lead too. I'm just saying that those gambling odds are 100% based on who is voting for what and that is it. Those odds aren't based on anything real. Nate Silver is a stat expert who knows which polls to take seriously and which to ignore. Creating more realistic odds.

Bill Gates
10-21-2024, 10:05 AM
New polls in Pennsylvania has Trump winning that state by +3.

https://x.com/VoteHubUS/status/1847360005416071510

Here are the actual early vote numbers for Pennsylvania BTW.

1987_Lakers
10-21-2024, 10:12 AM
https://x.com/VoteHubUS/status/1847360005416071510

Here are the actual early vote numbers for Pennsylvania BTW.

Democrats tend to vote earlier than Republicans, this is nothing new.

I remember a big Hillary supporter back in 2016 making threads how she is crushing Trump in early voting, how did that turn out?

And Nate Silver gave Hillary like a 70% chance of winning in 2016.

Hey Yo
10-21-2024, 10:28 AM
Democrats tend to vote earlier than Republicans, this is nothing new.

I remember a big Hillary supporter back in 2016 making threads how she is crushing Trump in early voting, how did that turn out?

And Nate Silver gave Hillary like a 70% chance of winning in 2016.
Cause he's an expert who knows which polls to take seriously.

Bill Gates
10-21-2024, 10:29 AM
Cause he's an expert who knows which polls to take serious

He currently has Trump leading.

But that was when he was with 538, he has since gutted a lot of the polls he used then seeing that they are flawed.

1987_Lakers
10-21-2024, 10:31 AM
Cause he's an expert who knows which polls to take seriously.

:roll:

ZenMaster
10-21-2024, 01:28 PM
Just like the jobs numbers being revised downward, FBI revises crime numbers UPWARD (a 6.6% swing) but not a word about it - smh.

https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2024/10/16/stealth_edit_fbi_quietly_revises_violent_crime_sta ts_1065396.html

When the FBI originally released the “final” crime data for 2022 in September 2023, it reported that the nation’s violent crime rate fell by 2.1%. This quickly became, and remains, a Democratic Party talking point to counter Donald Trump’s claims of soaring crime.

But the FBI has quietly revised those numbers, releasing new data that shows violent crime increased in 2022 by 4.5%. The new data includes thousands more murders, rapes, robberies, and aggravated assaults.

The Bureau – which has been at the center of partisan storms – made no mention of these revisions in its September 2024 press release.

This should have had it's own post. The amount of times people like OTC and bladed has pointed out that crime going up is a fake republican talking point or Russian disinformation, it's sad stuff.

TheMan
10-22-2024, 08:50 AM
In the end, betting markets and polls tell you so much, the betting sites 1987_Lakers loves to quote were way off in 2016 and two years ago. Having said that, Trump is in the best position he's ever been two weeks from the election which should be very worrisome to Democrats he SHOULD be considered the favorite as I have said here many times before but Harris has a historical lead for Democrats with women, mid teens lead and there are more women than men voters...

I still say high turnout favor the Democrats...if the turnout ain't there, Trump got this.

Whomever wins doesn't matter, but suck a bag of *****.

ZenMaster
10-22-2024, 09:06 AM
Okay but, my entire point was that having a 51/49 Vegas odds edge means little to nothing. I mean you clearly have your hopes up as though that 1 percentage point means Trump will win, but the reality is that the gamblers are saying this is a virtual coin flip.

If the odds were shifting 75/25 or even 60/40 then okay, that is a clear lead. But these two have been teetering over tiny amounts.

Also the major pollsters claim to have adjusted their systems to fit the mishaps of 2020 and 2016. I don't trust that is actually the case, but FWIW that is what they are claiming.

65/35 today on polymarket, 60/40 on most regular betting sites.

1987_Lakers
10-22-2024, 09:06 AM
In the end, betting markets and polls tell you so much, the betting sites 1987_Lakers loves to quote were way off in 2016 and two years ago. Having said that, Trump is in the best position he's ever been two weeks from the election which should be very worrisome to Democrats he SHOULD be considered the favorite as I have said here many times before but Harris has a historical lead for Democrats with women, mid teens lead and there are more women than men voters...

I still say high turnout favor the Democrats...if the turnout ain't there, Trump got this.

Whomever wins doesn't matter, but suck a bag of *****.

Looks like you are slowly completing the 7 stages of grief.

1987_Lakers
10-22-2024, 09:07 AM
Harris is still the favorite to win :confusedshrug:

https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/president

Honestly though being 51/49 favorite for either of these candidates doesn't mean much, that is still a virtual coin flip. Both have a clear chance at winning.

This link now has it at +21 for Trump. Ouch

ZenMaster
10-22-2024, 09:45 AM
https://media.patriots.win/post/EVRGxfbNWxaE.png

1987_Lakers
10-22-2024, 09:54 AM
If the polls are correct, I honestly can't remember a presidential candidate losing so much ground in the final month before the election.

October has been disastrous for Kamala.

Bill Gates
10-22-2024, 10:45 AM
If the polls are correct, I honestly can't remember a presidential candidate losing so much ground in the final month before the election.

October has been disastrous for Kamala.

Are you kidding? She's ahead in the polls and only lost tiny percentages.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/national/

They've been neck and neck this entire time. A coin flip.


Or did you mean to say betting odds?

1987_Lakers
10-22-2024, 10:50 AM
538

:roll:

Patrick Chewing
10-22-2024, 11:00 AM
Kamala is about to get demolished. There is no way she is winning.

1987_Lakers
10-22-2024, 11:09 AM
https://adfontesmedia.com/fivethirtyeight-bias-and-reliability/

"Ad Fontes Media rates FiveThirtyEight in the Skews Left category of bias"

Bill Gates
10-22-2024, 11:47 AM
538

:roll:

You said "If the polls are correct, I honestly can't remember a presidential candidate losing so much ground in the final month before the election."

538 is all of "the polls".


what polls where you talking about that are the biggest drop you can remember?

TheMan
10-22-2024, 01:46 PM
Looks like you are slowly completing the 7 stages of grief.

Nah, I have no dog in this race, I'm just giving my opinion on the state of the race, you on the other hand will be suicidal if your boy winds up losing, which is still quite the possibility.

Gonna suck to be you if the Don loses.

Lakers Legend#32
10-22-2024, 02:26 PM
Kamala is about to get demolished. There is no way she is winning.

The same guy who said there was gonna be a Red Wave in '22.

bladefd
10-22-2024, 09:06 PM
Just mailed my ballot in today.

BarberSchool
10-22-2024, 09:12 PM
538

:roll:
Selling them what they want to hear when they’re down in the dumps… not the worst business model for such a time/situation.

BarberSchool
10-22-2024, 09:14 PM
Kamala is about to get demolished. There is no way she is winning.

In an “all counts finish at midnight per time zone.” Election, Trump could easily see 320 electoral votes. As it stands, with plentiful “new rules” and plenty of bending rules in swing states, he probably won’t see 300, but will def get over 280

1987_Lakers
10-22-2024, 09:22 PM
Nah, I have no dog in this race

Keep telling yourself that.

Patrick Chewing
10-22-2024, 09:45 PM
Just mailed my ballots in today.

Cheating SOB :mad:

Patrick Chewing
10-22-2024, 09:47 PM
Keep telling yourself that.

TheMan is so full of shit. Homeboy has been so far up Kamala’s ass while dissing Trump this whole time. I’m coming for his ass first on election night.

TheMan
10-22-2024, 11:48 PM
Keep telling yourself that.

Keep believing that. I'm not creating thread after thread trashing Trump, I think he's ass, but I also think Harris is ass...it just so happens that IMO Trump is actually worse.

TheMan
10-22-2024, 11:50 PM
TheMan is so full of shit. Homeboy has been so far up Kamala’s ass while dissing Trump this whole time. I’m coming for his ass first on election night.

Both Trump and Harris are awful, name one thread/post where I say she's my candidate. I thought Biden was awful too but I predicted he'd beat Trump in 2020...I dare you to find ONE post during the last 4 years of me defending Biden.

Sanders would be curbstomping your chump rn. It's gonna be hilarious if awful Camel Toe beats Trump though :roll:

1987_Lakers
10-23-2024, 12:17 AM
Both Trump and Harris are awful, name one thread/post where I say she's my candidate. I thought Biden was awful too but I predicted he'd beat Trump in 2020...I dare you to find ONE post during the last 4 years of me defending Biden.

Sanders would be curbstomping your chump rn. It's gonna be hilarious if awful Camel Toe beats Trump though :roll:

This thread title disturbed you so much that you immediately made this thread to take the spotlight off of it.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?518968-2024-US-Elections-thread

"Anyways, post polls, opinions, takes, predictions"

TheMan
10-23-2024, 02:57 AM
This thread title disturbed you so much that you immediately made this thread to take the spotlight off of it.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?518968-2024-US-Elections-thread

"Anyways, post polls, opinions, takes, predictions"

I made that thread because we always have a general election thread, I know it's your first time voting but it's kind of a thing here...and I purposely made it exactly one month out. You make anti Harris threads almost daily, you have KDS, seek help. OTOH I trash Trump for the idiot he is but not everyday and I certainly ain't making anti Trump threads.

SouBeachTalents
10-23-2024, 03:01 AM
Just mailed my ballot in today.
Who'd you vote for?

BurningHammer
10-23-2024, 08:09 AM
Who'd you vote for?

Definitely not Jill Stein :oldlol:

1987_Lakers
10-23-2024, 09:59 AM
I made that thread because we always have a general election thread, I know it's your first time voting but it's kind of a thing here...and I purposely made it exactly one month out. You make anti Harris threads almost daily, you have KDS, seek help. OTOH I trash Trump for the idiot he is but not everyday and I certainly ain't making anti Trump threads.

How mad are you that this turned out to be the election thread instead of your thread?

ZenMaster
10-23-2024, 10:35 AM
Keep telling yourself that.

Video of TheMan not supporting Kamala https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1849054388137972032

TheMan
10-23-2024, 02:17 PM
How mad are you that this turned out to be the election thread instead of your thread?

This isn't the general election thread, it will be when we get to it :cheers: Again, we know this is your first time voting, never seen you post before in prior GE threads but since you have your head so far up Trump's ass, you aren't seeing nor thinking clearly.

ZenMaster
10-24-2024, 05:49 AM
Apparently there's video coming out before the election which is going to win it for Kamala, of Trump groping a kid at some donor event.

TheMan
10-24-2024, 09:30 AM
Apparently there's video coming out before the election which is going to win it for Kamala, of Trump groping a kid at some donor event.

I'm skeptical of the veracity of such video, and I'm no Trump supporter, seems way too convenient. Anyways, Trump could literally kill kittens on video and his supporters won't budge but it would move everyone else away from him if it's true such a video exists.

TheMan
10-24-2024, 09:34 AM
https://youtu.be/1INviKkv7-c?si=MwQusI3aRTAzbY0k

This video explains why Trump has exploded on betting markets, especially on Polly Market when aggregate of polls basically say Harris still has at least 50/50 odds of winning the presidency. Seems like low IQs like 1987_Lakers are getting duped...again :lol Musk is probably the dude gaming the markets, very suspicious betting markets started going in favor of Trump immediately after a tweet of his :lol

1987_Lakers
10-24-2024, 09:38 AM
https://youtu.be/1INviKkv7-c?si=MwQusI3aRTAzbY0k

This video explains why Trump has exploded on betting markets, especially on Polly Market when aggregate of polls basically say Harris still at least 50/50 odds of winning the presidency. Seems like low IQs like 1987_Lakers are getting duped...again :lol

It's not just polymarket though, every betting site currently has it 60/40. But keep coping.

TheMan
10-24-2024, 09:53 AM
It's not just polymarket though, every betting site currently has it 60/40. But keep coping.

Because it's being influenced by Poly Market, do you know how betting odds work :lol

I could see why you support Trump, you're easily duped...but keep believing Trump has it in the bag.

1987_Lakers
10-24-2024, 09:57 AM
Because it's being influenced by Poly Market, do you know how betting odds work :lol

I could see why you support Trump, you're easily duped...but keep believing Trump has it in the bag.

Is this also influenced by polymarket?

https://www.realclearpolling.com/maps/president/2024/no-toss-up/electoral-college

TheMan
10-24-2024, 09:57 AM
Trump supporters Musk and Marjorie Taylor Greene coming out with conspiracy theories the Dominion voting machines are rigged...again. There you go, laying the ground work to again bitch about stolen elections. Hope Dominion sues the hell out of them like they did with Fox News and other nefarious right wing media outlets for spreading outright lies.

TheMan
10-24-2024, 10:00 AM
Is this also influenced by polymarket?

https://www.realclearpolling.com/maps/president/2024/no-toss-up/electoral-college

Cope harder

1987_Lakers
10-24-2024, 10:00 AM
Trump supporters Musk and Marjorie Taylor Greene coming out with conspiracy theories the Dominion voting machines are rigged...again. There you go, laying the ground work to again bitch about stolen elections. Hope Dominion sues the hell out of them like they did with Fox News and other nefarious right wing media outlets for spreading outright lies.

If Trump doesn't win Pennsylvania, it will be rigged.

1987_Lakers
10-24-2024, 10:01 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yvd3aEsThbc

:oldlol:

RRR3
10-24-2024, 10:03 AM
Just stopping by to say it's bizarre MAGA are so stupid y'all think TheMan likes Kamala. Dude is actually pretty conservative he just doesn't like Trump, which y'all think=Democrat because you're incapable of nuance.

TheMan
10-24-2024, 10:05 AM
https://media.tenor.com/N20kg09n9EUAAAAM/crying-meme-face.gif
1987_Lakers

1987_Lakers
10-24-2024, 10:08 AM
This thing can go either way, I've been saying this forever. The main reason I think she'll win is turnout, I think turnout will be huge, historically favors the Dems, If I'm wrong on turnout, then Trump def has the advantage, but as I was telling 1987_Lakers, it doesn't really matter a month out who's winning in the polls, the polls closest to election day tend to be the most accurate.

We are getting closer, Trump is still leading. And you seem shook

TheMan
10-24-2024, 10:08 AM
Just stopping by to say it's bizarre MAGA are so stupid y'all think TheMan likes Kamala. Dude is actually pretty conservative he just doesn't like Trump, which y'all think=Democrat because you're incapable of nuance.

Socially conservative, economically progressive :cheers:

TheMan
10-24-2024, 10:11 AM
We are getting closer, Trump is still leading. And you seem shook

You're the chump heavily invested in Trump, you're gonna cry a river if he loses, me I really DGAF, I already voted and didn't vote for either of the two. Go vote for him like his little Mexican pet that you are.

1987_Lakers
10-24-2024, 10:15 AM
You're the chump heavily invested in Trump, you're gonna cry a river if he loses, me I really DGAF, I already voted and didn't vote for either of the two. Go vote for him like his little Mexican pet that you are.

Stop being dishonest with yourself.

TheMan
10-24-2024, 10:20 AM
Stop being dishonest with yourself.

I voted for Sanders, dummy. Go be Trump's brown useful idiot.

1987_Lakers
10-24-2024, 10:21 AM
I voted for Sanders, dummy. Go be Trump's brown useful idiot.

Meltdown.

"I don't care"

Proceeds to post in this thread non stop.

:oldlol:

TheMan
10-24-2024, 10:26 AM
Meltdown.

"I don't care"

Proceeds to post in this thread non stop.

:oldlol:

I'm not defending Harris here, pendejo. But this is my last response to you because I have other things to do. Go vote for your daddy Trump even when your vote won't mean anything in Califas :lol

RRR3
10-24-2024, 10:28 AM
Socially conservative, economically progressive :cheers:
So conservative. Gotta be left on both to be left

1987_Lakers
10-24-2024, 10:30 AM
I'm not defending Harris here, pendejo. But this is my last response to you because I have other things to do. Go vote for your daddy Trump even when your vote won't mean anything in Califas :lol

This will be your last response because I made you realize how much you care.

Patrick Chewing
10-24-2024, 10:45 AM
This will be your last response because I made you realize how much you care.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/bI661AbhNH5ZtKk7fI/200w.gif

TheMan
10-24-2024, 11:49 AM
So conservative. Gotta be left on both to be left

It's OK to be conservative, I'm just not a Trumptard.

Media Moderator
10-24-2024, 12:06 PM
It's OK to be conservative, I'm just not a Trumptard.

Don't be mad he's always bullying your country to get what he wants. China does it to you guys too. At least we use lube:oldlol:

TheMan
10-24-2024, 02:49 PM
Don't be mad he's always bullying your country to get what he wants. China does it to you guys too. At least we use lube:oldlol:

China is building electric car manufacturers, they're investing billions in Mexico, they have Trump shook af, creating more jobs...in what world is that a bad thing? You really don't know economics, don't you :roll:

Go search Google "nearshoring Mexico", learn something haha

Here, I'll make it easier on the simpletons...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/garydrenik/2023/03/23/why-nearshoring-is-closer-than-ever-how-mexico-is-becoming-the-next-big-thing-in-global-markets/

highwhey
10-24-2024, 02:52 PM
Don't be mad he's always bullying your country to get what he wants. China does it to you guys too. At least we use lube:oldlol:

you are seriously one of the dumbest posters on this forum. the amount of disinformation you spread is astounding. i do wonder however, are you actually retarded or are you so desperate to come out on top that you just say anything hoping it will pass for the truth?

TheMan
10-24-2024, 02:56 PM
you are seriously one of the dumbest posters on this forum. the amount of disinformation you spread is astounding. i do wonder however, are you actually retarded or are you so desperate to come out on top that you just say anything hoping it will pass for the truth?

I really think he's this stupid, the US would love for Chinese investors to be investing in the US (hint, they create jobs) he somehow thinks its a bad thing they're instead investing in Mexico :roll: ...well maybe for the US, haha

TheMan
10-24-2024, 03:07 PM
Don't be mad he's always bullying your country to get what he wants. China does it to you guys too. At least we use lube:oldlol:

And obviously since it's clear you're pretty dumb, let me explain it in simple terms because the link I provided has some big words you wouldn't understand...

Mexico is now the US biggest trade partner, replacing China, China now is employing (using) a different tactic instead of competing with Mexico, (if you can't beat them, join them) they are moving many of their industries to Mexico to take advantage of Mexico's proximity to the world's largest market. It's cheaper for them because they at the very least cut down on shipping costs (China is pretty far from the US, Mexico is right next door, got it?), China profits from this, Mexico has thousands of new jobs...are you understanding this? Or do I need to use crayons...

ZenMaster
10-25-2024, 07:36 AM
And obviously since it's clear you're pretty dumb, let me explain it in simple terms because the link I provided has some big words you wouldn't understand...

Mexico is now the US biggest trade partner, replacing China, China now is employing (using) a different tactic instead of competing with Mexico, (if you can't beat them, join them) they are moving many of their industries to Mexico to take advantage of Mexico's proximity to the world's largest market. It's cheaper for them because they at the very least cut down on shipping costs (China is pretty far from the US, Mexico is right next door, got it?), China profits from this, Mexico has thousands of new jobs...are you understanding this? Or do I need to use crayons...

What a shitshow, you're in one thread saying people who vote Trump are just a bunch of racists, in another thread you're all like "omg he was fired because he was so horrible, why would the American people want him back", but in the third thread you're bragging about how Mexico is taking American jobs.

1987_Lakers
10-25-2024, 10:35 AM
Popular vote is now tied according to RealClearPolitics.

Hey Yo
10-25-2024, 11:05 AM
:cry: please love my illegal messicans :cry:

TheMan
10-25-2024, 01:34 PM
What a shitshow, you're in one thread saying people who vote Trump are just a bunch of racists, in another thread you're all like "omg he was fired because he was so horrible, why would the American people want him back", but in the third thread you're bragging about how Mexico is taking American jobs.
China moving their manufacturers to Mexico isn't taking away American jobs :confusedshrug: Wouldn't it be taking away Chinese jobs?

highwhey
10-25-2024, 02:34 PM
China moving their manufacturers to Mexico isn't taking away American jobs :confusedshrug: Wouldn't it be taking away Chinese jobs?

:oldlol:

highwhey
10-25-2024, 02:35 PM
:cry: please love my felon rapist, fraudster, racist, draft dodging presidential candidate Trump :cry:

j3lademaster
10-25-2024, 02:36 PM
Popular vote is now tied according to RealClearPolitics.No one gives af about pop vote. Were a DEI country to the core so we must follow electoral college.

Patrick Chewing
10-25-2024, 02:42 PM
:cry: please love my felon rapist, fraudster, racist, draft dodging presidential candidate Trump :cry:

https://archive.supercombo.gg/uploads/default/original/3X/e/0/e077a7d2ed8ce569b2a9f149bfefdad134e7536c.gif

highwhey
10-25-2024, 02:43 PM
https://archive.supercombo.gg/uploads/default/original/3X/e/0/e077a7d2ed8ce569b2a9f149bfefdad134e7536c.gif

interesting point, but you weigh 400 pounds..

Patrick Chewing
10-25-2024, 02:49 PM
interesting point, but you weigh 400 pounds..

You weigh 4000 pounds, and you still have to go back. We might need to airlift you like we do with zoo animals, but you're still going back to where you belong.

highwhey
10-25-2024, 03:18 PM
You weigh 4000 pounds, and you still have to go back. We might need to airlift you like we do with zoo animals, but you're still going back to where you belong.

i belong on top of your mother wherever that may be https://s3.amazonaws.com/pix.iemoji.com/images/emoji/apple/ios-12/256/smiling-face-with-3-hearts.png

Patrick Chewing
10-25-2024, 03:30 PM
Wow, that's just weird.

Walk on Water
10-26-2024, 05:19 PM
It's laughable to think Kamala HAD, not has, but HAD any chance of beating Trump. Trump 2024 is the real deal.


https://media.tenor.com/Sin0DOO2uMcAAAAM/trump-trump-dance.gif



Then why is Kamala winning?

Patrick Chewing
10-26-2024, 07:49 PM
Then why is Kamala winning?

What is she winning??

The Democrats had to go back to calling Trump Hitler again cause they have nothing else and they’re running out of time.

SouBeachTalents
10-26-2024, 07:53 PM
Popular vote is now tied according to RealClearPolitics.
Trump seems to be the favorite to win the election at this point, but I'd be fvcking shocked if he even came close to winning the popular vote, let alone actually won it. Since they last won it in '04 Republicans have lost by 10, 5, 3 & 7 million votes in the popular vote in the last 4 elections, I seriously doubt Trump manages to flip that :lol

By all means if I'm wrong I'll admit it, but it might be a very long time until the Republicans win the popular vote again

ZenMaster
10-27-2024, 02:36 PM
China moving their manufacturers to Mexico isn't taking away American jobs :confusedshrug: Wouldn't it be taking away Chinese jobs?

Cars for Americans have historically mainly been built by Americans. There's a change in the industry where it's moving to new tech and China is trying to capitalize on this by government subsidized EV companies, also using all the experience gained in the last decades of reverse engineering tech, but that doesn't mean they can't produce in the US.

Hey Yo
10-27-2024, 02:45 PM
Trump seems to be the favorite to win the election at this point, but I'd be fvcking shocked if he even came close to winning the popular vote, let alone actually won it. Since they last won it in '04 Republicans have lost by 10, 5, 3 & 7 million votes in the popular vote in the last 4 elections, I seriously doubt Trump manages to flip that :lol

By all means if I'm wrong I'll admit it, but it might be a very long time until the Republicans win the popular vote again

This video of CNN data dude from just a few days ago says Trump has a good chance of winning the popular vote.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-data-guru-says-trump-has-legitimate-shot-winning-popular-vote-may-get-his-great-white-whale

1987_Lakers
10-30-2024, 09:22 AM
Betting sites have Trump up by 30.

TheMan
10-30-2024, 01:53 PM
Betting sites have Trump up by 30.

They had Trump’s chances at 17% in 2016, they've been way off before.

ZenMaster
11-02-2024, 08:35 AM
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/qt4vTGjj4mwAMwDsr/the-mysterious-trump-buyers-on-polymarket

It was shifted to that by just 4 people.

If you want accurate odds look at Nate Silver

Per Nate Silver himself, you can't trust the polls, 38:30.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijoDvXIkOEs

1987_Lakers
11-06-2024, 12:01 PM
He's not flipping Michigan

:oldlol:

1987_Lakers
03-25-2025, 08:41 PM
The denial in this thread by Trump haters was real. :oldlol:

Lakers Legend#32
03-26-2025, 01:08 AM
And all the Trump voters are proven to be on the wrong side of history.