Elon Paying $47 per swing state voter

[j3lademaster]

Elon Musk announced his America PAC will pay $47 for each successful referral of a registered swing state voter to sign a petition "to show support for free speech and the right to bear arms,” as he ramps up his support of former president Donald Trump’s campaign less than a month before the election.

Same guy who accused Twitter of election tampering via fact checking. Wake up! Whether you’re red or blue, you should not be okay with this, this is a blatant attack on democracy.

[j3lademaster]

Source

https://www.forbes.com/sites/maryroeloffs/2024/10/07/elon-musks-pac-is-paying-47-for-each-solicited-petition-signature-from-a-swing-state-voter-heres-why-its-controversial/

[bladefd]

Same guy who accused Twitter of election tampering via fact checking. Wake up! Whether you’re red or blue, you should not be okay with this, this is a blatant attack on democracy.

Yup. Musk is going off-the-wall lately.

[ArbitraryWater]

Dems shook

[RRR3]

Same guy who accused Twitter of election tampering via fact checking. Wake up! Whether you’re red or blue, you should not be okay with this, this is a blatant attack on democracy.
You think the people defending Musk are in favor of democracy? This is a pretty blatant fascist movement. Musk is following, retweeting and being chummy with actual white nationalists on twitter.

[j3lademaster]

Dems shookRepublicans I know are shook, too. There’s having conservative values: fiscal responsibility, controlled capitalism, traditionalism, strong nuclear families, hard work and supporting small govt/ small business… then there’s this where you are literally supporting a fascist movement. You do understand fascism isn’t tied to a country’s economic structure right? That just because the US is incredibly capitalist doesn’t mean it’s immune to fascism? They aren’t mutually exclusive. Who am I kidding, of course you don’t know.

[RRR3]

Republicans I know are shook, too. There’s having conservative values: fiscal responsibility, controlled capitalism, traditionalism, strong nuclear families, hard work and supporting small govt/ small business… then there’s this where you are literally supporting a fascist movement. You do understand fascism isn’t tied to a country’s economic structure right? That just because the US is incredibly capitalist doesn’t mean it’s immune to fascism? They aren’t mutually exclusive. Who am I kidding, of course you don’t know.
Bro he loves AFD (look them up) he IS a fascist

[Bill Gates]

Jack wasn't anything remotely close to this.

And now Elon has removed blocking because everyone blocked him. You can't even get on Twitter to discuss sports anymore without having an Elon tweet thrown in your face. Regardless if you are a follower or even if you've blocked him.

[1987_Lakers]

Jack wasn't anything remotely close to this.

And now Elon has removed blocking because everyone blocked him. You can't even get on Twitter to discuss sports anymore without having an Elon tweet thrown in your face. Regardless if you are a follower or even if you've blocked him.

Meanwhile you have Bill Gates trying to feed everyone fake meat.

Elon the GOAT

[Bill Gates]

Meanwhile you have Bill Gates trying to feed everyone fake meat.

Elon the GOAT

What does that have to do with anything?

[j3lademaster]

Meanwhile you have Bill Gates trying to feed everyone fake meat.

Elon the GOATwtf is this whataboutism. Stop worshipping idols and hold people accountable when they do something shitty.

[1987_Lakers]

What does that have to do with anything?
Why the long face Mr. Gates?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNAwUxZ5nfw

[RRR3]

wtf is this whataboutism. Stop worshipping idols and hold people accountable when they do something shitty.
Bro gets all his opinions from Joe Rogan, it's pretty sad. Hence why he went from Dem to Republican at the same point Rogan did.

[1987_Lakers]

Bro gets all his opinions from Joe Rogan, it's pretty sad. Hence why he went from Dem to Republican at the same point Rogan did.

When the Cheney's are endorsing Democrats, you know there is a problem.

[ZenMaster]

Same guy who accused Twitter of election tampering via fact checking. Wake up! Whether you’re red or blue, you should not be okay with this, this is a blatant attack on democracy.

How is this a blatant attack on democracy when everyone else are also paying workers doing canvassing?

Part of the fact check of the article you sourced:


Ted Blaszak, who founded a signature-gathering company called Trailblazing Canvassers, has been in this industry for more than 20 years. He said there's been "a radical increase in cost to qualify a measure and the fees that companies charge clients has spiked enormously" in the past five years.

He said not long ago a signature used to cost a group or candidate roughly $2 or $3. But now it's not uncommon for a single signature to cost upwards of $20 or $30.

"And that's a direct reflection of much higher costs being paid to the individual canvasser as their labor is more in demand," Blaszak said.

Canvassing jobs have always been hard to fill, he said, but it's been particularly hard to fill them since the pandemic and amid low unemployment rates in recent years.

"It's hard work," Blaszak said. "It really is. It's often discouraging work. So, people need to be well compensated to do challenging work in today's economy."

He said this is why his company paid about $50 an hour to workers in his last campaign.


Federal law prohibits anyone from paying or offering to pay someone to vote or register to vote, but, like paying petition circulators, it is legal to pay people to encourage others to do so. The America PAC, for instance, pays $30 per hour to people working to increase voter turnout. Earlier this year, the Biden Administration said it would pay college students to help register voters through the Federal Work-Study Program.



Jack wasn't anything remotely close to this.

And now Elon has removed blocking because everyone blocked him. You can't even get on Twitter to discuss sports anymore without having an Elon tweet thrown in your face. Regardless if you are a follower or even if you've blocked him.

You mean back when Trump was banned from Twitter?

It's not more than a few days ago OTC was bragging about how Walz was trending #2 after the debate, weird how that was possible with evil elon at the helm of his site that runs only on right wing bots...

[RRR3]

When the Cheney's are endorsing Democrats, you know there is a problem.
Your logic is nonexistent. No one was telling you to vote for the Dems, but if you're dissatisfied with the Dems you should be looking for real change which comes from further left politics not going to the right. Conservatism has never helped anyone but the rich.

[1987_Lakers]

Your logic is nonexistent. No one was telling you to vote for the Dems, but if you're dissatisfied with the Dems you should be looking for real change which comes from further left politics not going to the right. Conservatism has never helped anyone but the rich.

:roll:

[RRR3]

d-duh-uhhh-uhhh!
By any measure the best countries on earth for people to live are the Nordic countries, which are social democracies (hardly the best form of left wing politics, but it is left wing, especially by your definition). You can sob and whine all you want but it's true.

Please tell us how Trump's tax cuts for his billionaire buddies and insane military spending help the working class :roll:

[RRR3]

How is this a blatant attack on democracy when everyone else is also paying workers doing canvassing?

Part of the fact check of the article you sourced:








You mean back when Trump was banned from Twitter?

It's not more than a few days ago OTC was bragging about how Walz was trending #2 after the debate, weird how that was possible with evil elon at the helm of his site that runs only on right wing bots...
Elon retweets literal white nationalists.

[1987_Lakers]

https://townsquare.media/site/164/files/2022/04/attachment-TRIGGERED-GIRL.jpg?w=780&q=75


:roll:

[RRR3]

:roll:
These are the extent of your debating skills.

https://worldhappiness.report/ed/2020/the-nordic-exceptionalism-what-explains-why-the-nordic-countries-are-constantly-among-the-happiest-in-the-world/


Yikes.

[j3lademaster]

How is this a blatant attack on democracy when everyone else is also paying workers doing canvassing?.


Voter/ballot fraud

A voter intentionally gives false information when registering to vote
A voter receives money or something of value in exchange for voting in a federal election or registering to vote
Someone votes more than once in a federal election
An election official corrupts his or her office to benefit a candidate or party (e.g., lets unqualified voters cast ballots)

https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/public-corruption/election-crimes

he is paying people, who are registered, to sign a pointless document. Thus encouraging people to register to vote to get the money.

And as far as the whataboutism of everyone paying canvassing, that’s completely different as long as they’re offering ‘vote for Trump/ Harris” pins and brochures, not $50 a pop for finders fees. You see the difference right? Just pretend this is happening on the dem side and how outraged you’d be instead of looking for any excuse.

[diamenz]

When the Cheney's are endorsing Democrats, you know there is a problem.

not really. they're all a part of the same uniparty/gravy train. they just wear different colors and fly different flags to give americans the illusion that they have a meaningful choice when they're voting.

[ILLsmak]

not really. they're all a part of the same uniparty/gravy train. they just wear different colors and fly different flags to give americans the illusion that they have a meaningful choice when they're voting.

My PoV is that even if Trump is as well, he is at least the closest choice I can make to 'not them.' I'd like to believe at some point, we'll get something good.

I don't think people would have been so riled about Trump1 if it wasn't meaningful. I do think there were a lot of theatrics involved, though.

Just like everyone calling him a threat and a traitor, russian spy, etc... it's like if he was that, why are you like BUT WE GOTTA BEAT HIM AT THE BALLOT BOX. It's like no if he's a Russian spy seeking to obtain our highest office, we need to stop him before that. It proves very few people, at least of consequence, actually believe that. I feel bad for the ones who buy into it and are in constant NOOOO.

I think Kamala is an absolute clown, but I understand that dude here who was like I AM ENDORSING KAMALA CUZ YOU GUYS DESERVE HER. That's really the closest thing you can do to refusing to get behind a candidate: "Well, you guys voted for 'em." Then wait til the next time. This is the last Trump so...

It does bring up the idea that maybe he does have some stuff in store to change the landcape of politics. Not like bringing back concentration camps, but something that will make it easier for non-party people to succeed. I hope to see the day we get an actually independent person in the white house.

-Smak

[ZenMaster]

Elon retweets literal white nationalists.

I heard you're very good at spotting these, sure those aren't just parody accounts?

And even so what? People retweets literal white globalists all the time and it's not like that stuff gets banned from twitter either.
Hell George Soros apparently even just bought 200 radio stations across the US to get his word out, sale being fast tracked by the current government and everything, and that's on top of the 18 US latino stations his org already owned.

[j3lademaster]

not really. they're all a part of the same uniparty/gravy train. they just wear different colors and fly different flags to give americans the illusion that they have a meaningful choice when they're voting.

This is why I always laugh when people call the dems communist. They're as right as possible without actually passing the right, and they camouflage it with "look at these social issues we totally care about" like racism, transphobia etc. We all know Biden and Harris doesn't give two shits about trans people kicking women off of NCAA scholarships.

[1987_Lakers]

https://worldstar.com/videos/wshhGvyoJSkOoinboig9/bill-gates-and-reid-hoffman-are-nervous-elon-drops-names-of-billionaires-allegedly-on-epstein-list-calling-out-celebs-in-support-of-kamala-harris

[RRR3]

I heard you're very good at spotting these, sure those aren't just parody accounts?

And even so what? People retweets literal white globalists all the time and it's not like that stuff gets banned from twitter either.
Hell George Soros apparently even just bought 200 radio stations across the US to get his word out, sale being fast tracked by the current government and everything, and that's on top of the 18 US latino stations his org already owned.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1843133043961381178

Here he is boosting Jack Posobiec


Posobiec's social media and political activities are linked to neo-Nazi and white supremacist movements. He has published multiple posts containing the white supremacist code "1488", or the Fourteen Words, and supports the use of the slogan.[9][10][40][41] The 88 stands for HH, or Heil Hitler.[42][43] In October 2016, Posobiec posted a tweet that included triple parentheses, an antisemitic symbol.[8] In response to a 2017 Anti-Defamation League report on the alt-right, which included Posobiec, he tweeted a selfie of his visit to the Auschwitz-Birkenau Memorial in Poland: "The @ADL_National would be wise to remember what happened the last time people made lists of undesirables".[40]

In April 2017, Posobiec promoted on Twitter an event staged by Obóz Narodowo-Radykalny, a Polish neo-fascist movement that bombed Jewish homes in the 1930s.[44][45] Posobiec later deleted his tweet promoting the event.[45]

In August 2017, following the 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, that led to violent clashes between white nationalists and anti-protesters, Posobiec said that the rally had become "massive propaganda" for the left and that the mainstream media was "fanning the flames of this violence." He said that Trump should have disavowed Black Lives Matter. Posobiec later tweeted that he had consistently disavowed white nationalism and violence.[23] He also tweeted that he was "done with trolling" and that it was "time to do the right thing." Posobiec has frequently tweeted about the white supremacist white genocide conspiracy theory.[7][46]

On June 9, 2022, the Southern Poverty Law Center listed Posobiec as an extremist, citing his links to hate groups such as the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, as well as his links to white nationalists, neo-Nazis, anti-government extremists, and the Polish far-right.[2][47]

source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Posobiec

[ZenMaster]

https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/public-corruption/election-crimes

he is paying people, who are registered, to sign a pointless document. Thus encouraging people to register to vote to get the money.

And as far as the whataboutism of everyone paying canvassing, that’s completely different as long as they’re offering ‘vote for Trump/ Harris” pins and brochures, not $50 a pop for finders fees. You see the difference right? Just pretend this is happening on the dem side and how outraged you’d be instead of looking for any excuse.

No he's not, he's paying for a "successful referral", it's there in your article. Meaning if you go out and get someone else to sign then it's you who get the $47, if you get two then you get $94 etc.

They probably left it vague and not explain it directly because they want people to get tricked and start false rumors about Elon paying for votes.

[1987_Lakers]

No he's not, he's paying for a "successful referral", it's there in your article. Meaning if you go out and get someone else to sign then it's you who get the $47, if you get two then you get $94 etc.

They probably left it vague and not explain it directly because they want people to get tricked and start false rumors about Elon paying for votes.

https://c.tenor.com/D-ItB5iBmPYAAAAC/tenor.gif

[Lakers Legend#32]

You really think Republicans are gonna doorbell in the rain?:lol

[ZenMaster]

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1843133043961381178

Here he is boosting Jack Posobiec



source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Posobiec

OK, so it's a nazi who posted positively about a jewish billionaire trying to get signups for his petition to vote and support the constitution, and then the jewish billionare re-tweeting it back?

Top tweet on this Elon boost :oldlol:


Buying votes is exactly what I expected from a drug addled, mercurial billionaire

[j3lademaster]

No he's not, he's paying for a "successful referral", it's there in your article. Meaning if you go out and get someone else to sign then it's you who get the $47, if you get two then you get $94 etc.

They probably left it vague and not explain it directly because they want people to get tricked and start false rumors about Elon paying for votes.That's literally what I said. None of it was 'left vague'.

You would be up in arms about this if a billionaire was doing this for Harris. You don't see the problem with paying people commission to find Trump voters in swing states and registering them to vote vs an hourly employee or volunteer passing out Harris pins and brochures? We're already at the point of lobbying and almost buying elections and this is taking it to another level, that's why it's an attack on democracy. It's chipping at whatever little we have left.

Inb4 'we aren't a democracy we're a constitutional republic.'

[RRR3]

OK, so it's a nazi who posted positively about a jewish billionaire trying to get signups for his petition to vote and support the constitution, and then the jewish billionare re-tweeting it back?

Top tweet on this Elon boost :oldlol:
There have been Jewish Nazis, denying Jack Posobiec is a Nazi is not a good look. Obviously you don't think Nazism is a deal breaker, but most people living in reality do.

[ZenMaster]

That's literally what I said. None of it was 'left vague'.

You would be up in arms about this if a billionaire was doing this for Harris. You don't see the problem with paying people commission to find Trump voters in swing states and registering them to vote vs an hourly employee or volunteer passing out Harris pins and brochures? We're already at the point of lobbying and almost buying elections and this is taking it to another level, that's why it's an attack on democracy. It's chipping at whatever little we have left.

Inb4 'we aren't a democracy we're a constitutional republic.'

Here's what you said and it sounds different:


he is paying people, who are registered, to sign a pointless document. Thus encouraging people to register to vote to get the money.

https://x.com/greg_price11/status/1762889708760183131?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1762889708760183131%7Ctwgr% 5E4fdd111e314bfa0844cf6165d4fadae0116e1a64%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsweek.com%2Fbiden-paying-college-students-register-voters-1874621

What makes you think there aren't people working to register voters for Harris, e.g in urban areas right now, and paid to do so through an NGO which relies on donations? Let's not even get started on election workers in swing states being on video in 2020 stuffing ballot boxes over and over again, because for whatever reason people kept handing over their votes to these 3rd parties.

https://afj.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Can-a-Nonprofit-Provide-Incentives-2.pdf


There have been Jewish Nazis, denying Jack Posobiec is a Nazi is not a good look. Obviously you don't think Nazism is a deal breaker, but most people living in reality do.

I don't get it, I specifically called Posobiec a nazi.

But saying Elon is a Jewish Nazi, that's your whole point of this?

[jstern]

Mark Zuckerberg ripped for claiming he didn’t realize $400M in ‘Zuck Bucks’ helped sway 2020 election for Biden


He’s sorry, not sorry.

Data geek Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg claimed this week he didn’t realize $400 million he spent on “getting out the vote” in the 2020 election benefited one party over the other.

But Republican sources are skeptical that the Facebook boss was unaware his so-called “Zuck Bucks” — pledged to help finance fair local elections — were spent unevenly after being given to two known left-wing organizations.


https://nypost.com/2024/08/30/us-news/zuckerberg-ripped-for-claiming-no-influence-on-2020-election/

So kind to spend 400 million.

Let's not forget Soros.

[RRR3]

Here's what you said and it sounds different:



https://x.com/greg_price11/status/1762889708760183131?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1762889708760183131%7Ctwgr% 5E4fdd111e314bfa0844cf6165d4fadae0116e1a64%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsweek.com%2Fbiden-paying-college-students-register-voters-1874621

What makes you think there aren't people working to register voters for Harris, e.g in urban areas right now, and paid to do so through an NGO which relies on donations? Let's not even get started on election workers in swing states being on video in 2020 stuffing ballot boxes over and over again, because for whatever reason people kept handing over their votes to these 3rd parties.

https://afj.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Can-a-Nonprofit-Provide-Incentives-2.pdf



I don't get it, I specifically called Posobiec a nazi.

But saying Elon is a Jewish Nazi, that's your whole point of this?
Elon Musk is not Jewish :facepalm

So if you admit Posobiec is a Nazi, you admit your boy Musk boosts Nazis. Yikes.

[ZenMaster]

Elon Musk is not Jewish :facepalm

So if you admit Posobiec is a Nazi, you admit your boy Musk boosts Nazis. Yikes.

The link you posted said he was a nazi, so I tried to keep a level conversation instead of you starting to accuse me of being a nazi denier, because that's when the conversation gets really silly.

But so, you're saying Elon is a nazi, who's tricked the leader of Israel? It's definitely high level conspiracy stuff you're rolling into here..


Tech billionaire and Tesla chief Elon Musk visited Capitol Hill on Wednesday as a personal guest of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who is speaking to Congress about his country’s war with Hamas, while several Congress members

https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2024/07/24/elon-musk-attends-netanyahus-speech-to-congress-as-his-guest/

[RRR3]

The link you posted said he was a nazi, so I tried to keep a level conversation instead of you starting to accuse me of being a nazi denier, because that's when the conversation gets really silly.

But so, you're saying Elon is a nazi, who's tricked the leader of Israel? It's definitely high level conspiracy stuff you're rolling into here..



https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2024/07/24/elon-musk-attends-netanyahus-speech-to-congress-as-his-guest/
Israel is quite literally a fascist state that furthers US interests in the Middle East and is currently genociding a majority Islamic population, how is this a comeback to anyone remotely intelligent? Do you think Nazis like Muslims? Israel does not represent Jews :rolleyes:, that is antisemitic nonsense, unless you stupidly think the state of Saudi Arabia represents all Muslims.

Also I said Elon boosts Nazis, which is just a fact, and your comeback is him being buddies with the fascist leader of an Apartheid state because "durr they're Jewish". The Nazis were quite literally allied with the Japanese in WW2, do you think Nazis like Japanese people? Use your brain for once.

Btw that Endwokeness account you like linking in here was exposed as being run by Posobiec so unless being a Nazi isn’t a deal breaker to you you probably should stop sharing it for your arguments. https://t.co/WZzupbfCRx. https://x.com/1lexycat/status/1841706305159152034?s=46

[ZenMaster]

Israel is quite literally a fascist state that furthers US interests in the Middle East and is currently genociding a majority Islamic population, how is this a comeback to anyone remotely intelligent? Do you think Nazis like Muslims? Israel does not represent Jews :rolleyes:, that is antisemitic nonsense, unless you stupidly think the state of Saudi Arabia represents all Muslims.

Also I said Elon boosts Nazis, which is just a fact, and your comeback is him being buddies with the fascist leader of an Apartheid state because "durr they're Jewish". The Nazis were quite literally allied with the Japanese in WW2, do you think Nazis like Japanese people? Use your brain for once.

Btw that Endwokeness account you like linking in here was exposed as being run by Posobiec so unless being a Nazi isn’t a deal breaker to you you probably should stop sharing it for your arguments. https://t.co/WZzupbfCRx. https://x.com/1lexycat/status/1841706305159152034?s=46

Just make it clear what you're saying:

Musk is a nazi who's working with the leader of the country which has almost half of all jews in the world living there, because that guy is also a nazi. He's one of the very evil nazi jews you were talking about earlier.. Is that it, or they're working together because Musk tricked that guy into believeing Musk himself isn't a nazi? Or Musk is a nazi and Netanyahu isn't, but they're working together now because their goal alligns?

Your new link call Posobiec a right wing pundit btw, not a nazi. Feels an awful lot like 6ish years ago when everyone on the right was called a nazi, including anyone on this board who supported Trump. Yourself, Jasper, OTC were all the rage when it came to this, maybe if you hadn't been so aggressive with the rhetoric back then, people today would take it more serious today. If people on the right had to go by your rules of not re-posting anything from a "nazi account" or similar, they couldn't re-post anything at all. But then again, that's probably the kind of censorship you're looking for like the tyrant you are, where anything you don't like can be considered nazist, fascist or Russian disinformation.

Using my brain, it tells me not to listen to you and that I really don't care about your drivel in general. You have brain rot and everyone here knows you get off on pretending that you know better, but can never actually put things together and you're just not very bright. We've already been over this and last time you exposed your stupidity once again, that time about "parody twitter accounts". If I kept the same level as you, we'd be talking about this guy Jack being a Catholic best selling author and only that, "because it's what it says on his twitter".
Your as dumb as implied when you made the statement about considering yourself a smart and hard worker because you were selling weed next to your clerk job.

[rmt]

My PoV is that even if Trump is as well, he is at least the closest choice I can make to 'not them.' I'd like to believe at some point, we'll get something good.

I don't think people would have been so riled about Trump1 if it wasn't meaningful. I do think there were a lot of theatrics involved, though.

Just like everyone calling him a threat and a traitor, russian spy, etc... it's like if he was that, why are you like BUT WE GOTTA BEAT HIM AT THE BALLOT BOX. It's like no if he's a Russian spy seeking to obtain our highest office, we need to stop him before that. It proves very few people, at least of consequence, actually believe that. I feel bad for the ones who buy into it and are in constant NOOOO.

I think Kamala is an absolute clown, but I understand that dude here who was like I AM ENDORSING KAMALA CUZ YOU GUYS DESERVE HER. That's really the closest thing you can do to refusing to get behind a candidate: "Well, you guys voted for 'em." Then wait til the next time. This is the last Trump so...

It does bring up the idea that maybe he does have some stuff in store to change the landcape of politics. Not like bringing back concentration camps, but something that will make it easier for non-party people to succeed. I hope to see the day we get an actually independent person in the white house.

-Smak

Well, RFK Jr. and Tulsi are on transition team which is selecting most of the administration - not exactly right wing idealogues.

[ArbitraryWater]

Republicans I know are shook, too. There’s having conservative values: fiscal responsibility, controlled capitalism, traditionalism, strong nuclear families, hard work and supporting small govt/ small business… then there’s this where you are literally supporting a fascist movement. You do understand fascism isn’t tied to a country’s economic structure right? That just because the US is incredibly capitalist doesn’t mean it’s immune to fascism? They aren’t mutually exclusive. Who am I kidding, of course you don’t know.


Man shut the **** up about facism.

You dont have the slightest clue about it.

Youre going for the party aiming to censor and regulate everything.

[ILLsmak]

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1843133043961381178

Here he is boosting Jack Posobiec



source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Posobiec

If you had just said him, I would have known who it was. That dude has been around.

-Smak

[Wardell Curry]

He's paying for them to sign a petition, not to vote. It's not the same thing.

Regardless, it's pretty clear Elon has been off the rails for some time now. I think his kid turning trans probably fully pushed him to the right because I do remember him being rather neutral if not a left leaning voter for a long time.

Getting it directly from a girl that I am friends with that is married to a male to female tranny, the actual number of trans people out there is like 1 in 1500 or 1 in 2000 or something extremely low like that. But today's media has pushed it to make kids think it's super common and normal.


Research shows transgender individuals are younger on average than the U.S. population. We find that youth ages 13 to 17 are significantly more likely to identify as transgender (1.4%) than adults ages 65 or older (0.3%)

This isn't just it becoming socially acceptable and people suddenly coming out as trans. It's brainwashing of confused and impressionable children.


In any event, yes, Elon needs to dial it back. The amount of energy this guy has sunk into politics is crazy, especially for someone as busy as he is that has his finger in so many different things. He has definitely fallen victim to being terminally online. If that guy had his web access removed for 1 month he would probably have a totally different perspective about life.

Unfortunately, he and the rest of us are extremely plugged in and this shit makes us think that all of these problems are far bigger than they actually are and we get brainwashed in any which direction. It's wild.

[Jasper]

Same guy who accused Twitter of election tampering via fact checking. Wake up! Whether you’re red or blue, you should not be okay with this, this is a blatant attack on democracy.

no worries here swing state Wisc. is in the bag for Harris... opening my pocket book for Musk to deliver.

[RRR3]

:mad:
Genuinely insane you're so stupid you can't remember what you said a post ago


I don't get it, I specifically called Posobiec a nazi.


:biggums:

[BurningHammer]

Have any ISHiots got 47 bucks yet? :confusedshrug:

[ZenMaster]

He's paying for them to sign a petition, not to vote. It's not the same thing.

Regardless, it's pretty clear Elon has been off the rails for some time now. I think his kid turning trans probably fully pushed him to the right because I do remember him being rather neutral if not a left leaning voter for a long time.

Getting it directly from a girl that I am friends with that is married to a male to female tranny, the actual number of trans people out there is like 1 in 1500 or 1 in 2000 or something extremely low like that. But today's media has pushed it to make kids think it's super common and normal.

This isn't just it becoming socially acceptable and people suddenly coming out as trans. It's brainwashing of confused and impressionable children.

In any event, yes, Elon needs to dial it back. The amount of energy this guy has sunk into politics is crazy, especially for someone as busy as he is that has his finger in so many different things. He has definitely fallen victim to being terminally online. If that guy had his web access removed for 1 month he would probably have a totally different perspective about life.

Unfortunately, he and the rest of us are extremely plugged in and this shit makes us think that all of these problems are far bigger than they actually are and we get brainwashed in any which direction. It's wild.

Trump can thank Elon for even having a chance in this election, he'd be squarly fked if twitter was still a censorship box under US gvt control.

https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1843379457605939258

https://x.com/triffic_stuff_/status/1843379700338761841

[RRR3]

Zen knowingly linking Nazi accounts. Lil Nazi Zen :biggums:

[ZenMaster]

Zen knowingly linking Nazi accounts. Lil Nazi Zen :biggums:

This is pretty weak framing even for a jabroni like yourself. But sure, if Elon isn't a nazi for linking this account, obivously neither am.

Your link to "Lexicat" proving this stuff doesn't even work anymore btw, was probably fake. https://x.com/1lexycat/status/1841706305159152034?s=46

I looked up this guy though since you have so much focus on him, turns out he did a whole couple of hours on Tucker just a few months ago. I bet it really grinds your gears how mainstream this guy is, Musk booooosting him all the time for millions of views and what not, while all you can do is act like a kvetch on ISH.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U24fKGJ2JPo

[RRR3]

Yeah it upsets me a Nazi is getting normalized. Tell us more how this shit is ok


Posobiec's social media and political activities are linked to neo-Nazi and white supremacist movements. He has published multiple posts containing the white supremacist code "1488", or the Fourteen Words, and supports the use of the slogan.[9][10][40][41] The 88 stands for HH, or Heil Hitler.[42][43] In October 2016, Posobiec posted a tweet that included triple parentheses, an antisemitic symbol.[8] In response to a 2017 Anti-Defamation League report on the alt-right, which included Posobiec, he tweeted a selfie of his visit to the Auschwitz-Birkenau Memorial in Poland: "The @ADL_National would be wise to remember what happened the last time people made lists of undesirables".[40]

In April 2017, Posobiec promoted on Twitter an event staged by Obóz Narodowo-Radykalny, a Polish neo-fascist movement that bombed Jewish homes in the 1930s.[44][45] Posobiec later deleted his tweet promoting the event.[45]

In August 2017, following the 2017 Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, that led to violent clashes between white nationalists and anti-protesters, Posobiec said that the rally had become "massive propaganda" for the left and that the mainstream media was "fanning the flames of this violence." He said that Trump should have disavowed Black Lives Matter. Posobiec later tweeted that he had consistently disavowed white nationalism and violence.[23] He also tweeted that he was "done with trolling" and that it was "time to do the right thing." Posobiec has frequently tweeted about the white supremacist white genocide conspiracy theory.[7][46]

On June 9, 2022, the Southern Poverty Law Center listed Posobiec as an extremist, citing his links to hate groups such as the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, as well as his links to white nationalists, neo-Nazis, anti-government extremists, and the Polish far-right.[2][47]


You ain't fooling me, you love fascism.

[ZenMaster]

Yeah it upsets me a Nazi is getting normalized. Tell us more how this shit is ok




You ain't fooling me, you love fascism.

Already told you that the problem with you and the rest of Antifa is that you took the whole nazi monikor and used it on everyone you didn't like. At the same time you kept talking about how Antifa doesn't exist, so in the eyes of the public you ended up as nothing but cowards trying to act as thought police. You're stuck there now and no one gives a shit about radical communists fighting in the streets, notice how little of a role you're playing in this election compared to previous ones?

I remember watching this clip many years ago with Antifa being violent because the individuals are dumb as rocks and don't know how to speak, funny how that guy would end up on Tucker and someone you've been thinking about for almost a decade. Not sure how I'd feel about myself if I was still posting about Chenk from the young turks 10 years later because he said some things I didn't like lol.


https://youtu.be/HiYC0ZsZyWo

[RRR3]

Already told you that the problem with you and the rest of Antifa is that you took the whole nazi monikor and used it on everyone you didn't like. At the same time you kept talking about how Antifa doesn't exist, so in the eyes of the public you ended up as nothing but cowards trying to act as thought police. You're stuck there now and no one gives a shit about radical communists fighting in the streets, notice how little of a role you're playing in this election compared to previous ones?

I remember watching this clip many years ago with Antifa being violent because the individuals are dumb as rocks and don't know how to speak, funny how that guy would end up on Tucker and someone you've been thinking about for almost a decade. Not sure how I'd feel about myself if I was still posting about Chenk from the young turks 10 years later because he said some things I didn't like lol.


https://youtu.be/HiYC0ZsZyWo
I know you're senile, but you already admitted Jack Posobiec was a Nazi and here you are desperately defending him and using him as a source. Pretty easy to conclude you're sympathetic to Nazism.

[ZenMaster]

I know you're senile, but you already admitted Jack Posobiec was a Nazi and here you are desperately defending him and using him as a source. Pretty easy to conclude you're sympathetic to Nazism.

I know you're dumb and want to shape reality so you get a higher dopamin release, but no one cares and the only one acting like a nazi is you - same as I told you a couple months back.

[RRR3]

https://i.makeagif.com/media/1-22-2023/Og2O45.gif




I don't get it, I specifically called Posobiec a nazi.
????



How are you too dumb to remember this?


You then proceeded to spend time defending him and linking stuff from him :wtf: What else are we to conclude but that you think Nazism is a positive?

[ZenMaster]

????



How are you too dumb to remember this?


You then proceeded to spend time defending him and linking stuff from him :wtf: What else are we to conclude but that you think Nazism is a positive?

Already addressed it.


The link you posted said he was a nazi, so I tried to keep a level conversation instead of you starting to accuse me of being a nazi denier, because that's when the conversation gets really silly.

Is Elon Musk a nazi?

Btw the whole conversation, same as always with you, is super retarded. Especially considering how you're a communist and per your own words, sympathetic to Mao.

https://chineseposters.net/sites/default/files/images/c17-971.jpg

[RRR3]

Already addressed it.



Is Elon Musk a nazi?

Btw the whole conversation, same as always with you, is super retarded. Especially considering how you're a communist and per your own words, sympathetic to Mao.

https://chineseposters.net/sites/default/files/images/c17-971.jpg
Musk is clearly sympathetic to Nazism, you can take out of that whatever you will.

**** Mao, me baiting idiots like you doesn’t mean I like him. I’m an anarchist, Mao sucked. You thought you had something there :(

[ZenMaster]

Musk is clearly sympathetic to Nazism, you can take out of that whatever you will.

**** Mao, me baiting idiots like you doesnÂ’t mean I like him. IÂ’m an anarchist, Mao sucked. You thought you had something there :(

If you think Elon Musk is a nazi then you're probably radicalized to the point where everyone not voting for Kamala seems like one. You actively promote Jacobin which talks about Mao plenty, while no one here links to sites with paragraph after paragraph about Hitler.

[Norcaliblunt]

Instead of lowering prices or providing charity oligarchs will just use their extra cash to buy votes for their oligarch politician buddies.

That’s reality.

[RRR3]

If you think Elon Musk is a nazi then you're probably radicalized to the point where everyone not voting for Kamala seems like one. You actively promote Jacobin which talks about Mao plenty, while no one here links to sites with paragraph after paragraph about Hitler.
Jacobin talks about Mao because he called himself a socialist. The articles I'm finding from them are critical of him, as you'd assume because it's a Democratic Socialist site and he wasn't Democratic.

By your logic, I must think I'm a Nazi since I'm not voting for Harris :hammerhead:

No, I think people are Nazis when they defend and promote literal Nazis. It's not really a leap in logic. Keep dancing around the fact that you exposed yourself as a Nazi all you want, it's too late.

[ZenMaster]

Jacobin talks about Mao because he called himself a socialist. The articles I'm finding from them are critical of him, as you'd assume because it's a Democratic Socialist site and he wasn't Democratic.

By your logic, I must think I'm a Nazi since I'm not voting for Harris :hammerhead:

No, I think people are Nazis when they defend and promote literal Nazis. It's not really a leap in logic. Keep dancing around the fact that you exposed yourself as a Nazi all you want, it's too late.

You've already admitted that you're baiting and trolling, being disingenous. Nazis and communists are both horrible people and it's disgusting of you to insinuate that I am nazi. Sure you might be radical and it's a highlight of your day to get to be a tyrant, but it's still disgusting and same as with everything else in your life, no one will respect you for it.

[Norcaliblunt]

Elon wants to put a chip in your brain too.

[j3lademaster]

You've already admitted that you're baiting and trolling, being disingenous. Nazis and communists are both horrible people and it's disgusting of you to insinuate that I am nazi. Sure you might be radical and it's a highlight of your day to get to be a tyrant, but it's still disgusting and same as with everything else in your life, no one will respect you for it.How are communists terrible people? The whole point of communism is collectivism and having faith in humanity that people can govern themselves, don’t conflate actual communists with fascist dictators who ran on it only to install totalitarianism when they seized power. I wish I was a good enough person to believe in that(people’s ability to govern themselves) but my career has made me too cynical of our system.

[RRR3]

You've already admitted that you're baiting and trolling, being disingenous. Nazis and communists are both horrible people and it's disgusting of you to insinuate that I am nazi. Sure you might be radical and it's a highlight of your day to get to be a tyrant, but it's still disgusting and same as with everything else in your life, no one will respect you for it.
You’re the one who’s willingly defending and sharing videos and tweets from a literal Nazi. What other conclusion am I to draw from that?

[ZenMaster]

YouÂ’re the one whoÂ’s willingly defending and sharing videos and tweets from a literal Nazi. What other conclusion am I to draw from that?

1) You haven't produced any piece of content with anyone talking about nazism and the only one calling him a literal nazi is yourself. Your links talk about him being part of a bigot right wing movement and they all eventually lead back to conent tied to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which calls Trump the leader of that right wing bigot movement. The whole "anyone who wants to see Trump as President is a nazi" sentiment can **** right off, it's nothing but a media campaign which pumps out content to retarded levels of "tariffs are racist".
https://www.vox.com/2019/7/3/20681384/trump-trade-agenda-race-immigration

2) You keep obfuscating between nationalism and nazism. There's a big difference and it's why you have to throw the word "white" in there when talking about it, to make it seem more evil than what it is. You're looking to be a victim.

3) Your assumption that the EndWokeness account is run by Posobiec isn't confirmed and is built on theory from a left wing blog + an anime twitter account named Lexicat.

[ZenMaster]

How are communists terrible people? The whole point of communism is collectivism and having faith in humanity that people can govern themselves, don’t conflate actual communists with fascist dictators who ran on it only to install totalitarianism when they seized power. I wish I was a good enough person to believe in that(people’s ability to govern themselves) but my career has made me too cynical of our system.

Because in the real world, communism has to applied by force as the nature of the system is that everyone has to be a part of it. It's why it's only ever been used in large scale through fascist dictators, because it's a good way to bring people down and keep government control as it stifles both individual and collecive development.

There's nothing stopping RRR3 from going to live in a commune or open his own one and being a free loving communist, but instead his focus is on trying to convince others that we all have to be communists and him seeking out the totalitarinism seems like second nature.

[RRR3]

1) You haven't produced any piece of content with anyone talking about nazism and the only one calling him a literal nazi is yourself. Your links talk about him being part of a bigot right wing movement and they all eventually lead back to conent tied to the Southern Poverty Law Center, which calls Trump the leader of that right wing bigot movement. The whole "anyone who wants to see Trump as President is a nazi" sentiment can **** right off, it's nothing but a media campaign which pumps out content to retarded levels of "tariffs are racist".
https://www.vox.com/2019/7/3/20681384/trump-trade-agenda-race-immigration

2) You keep obfuscating between nationalism and nazism. There's a big difference and it's why you have to throw the word "white" in there when talking about it, to make it seem more evil than what it is. You're looking to be a victim.

3) Your assumption that the EndWokeness account is run by Posobiec isn't confirmed and is built on theory from a left wing blog + an anime twitter account named Lexicat.
I like how you're pretending Posobiec tweeting literal Nazi slogans is ok. Lil Nazi Zen.

[RRR3]

Because in the real world, communism has to applied by force as the nature of the system is that everyone has to be a part of it. It's why it's only ever been used in large scale through fascist dictators, because it's a good way to bring people down and keep government control as it stifles both individual and collecive development.

There's nothing stopping RRR3 from going to live in a commune or open his own one and being a free loving communist, but instead his focus is on trying to convince others that we all have to be communists and him seeking out the totalitarinism seems like second nature.
When did I ever try to convince you to be a communist? Typical Nazi making up shit.

[ZenMaster]

I like how you're pretending Posobiec tweeting literal Nazi slogans is ok. Lil Nazi Zen.

Only one pretending here is you.

I don't care about any of your ideological bullshit and stupid discussions designed to waste my time, you're a deadbeat loser looking for affirmation and to be a victim. Jews who died at the hands of nazis would spit in your face from their graves if they could, for how you're trying to use their suffering for your personal gain. You thinking that Trump, Musk, RFK, Tucker and myself are all nazis is nothing new, same as bladed who thinks we're all Russian spies.

I don't spend my time worrying about X or Y person or org being on twitter, so I really don't care about right wing grifter and potential nazi Prosobec in the same way I don't care about the revolutionary communist party (https://x.com/revcommunists?lang=en) trying to recruit members and start a revolution, or whoever is in charge of NYC antifa (https://x.com/NYCAntifa) or any of the other active antifa accounts. Like you already said, all you did was bait me into a stupid conversation with the intention of name calling.

[RRR3]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/staticarchive/71b6b5e03f40e4f5466d251fb681630bd5e4e927.jpg
I'm a Jew, I had family die in the Holocaust, you truly never know what you're talking about, just like all Nazis.

[ZenMaster]

I'm a Jew, I had family die in the Holocaust, you truly never know what you're talking about, just like all Nazis.

You're not the only one to have their family altered during WWII, and the point going right over your head is that people before you went through death and horrow for you to even be alive today and with opportunities. And what do you do with it? Sell weed out of a library, complain about being alive and bait people online into arguing with you so you can call them a nazi because you don't like their preferred candidate for President. Like I said earlier, it's a magic line where only Trump voters can be a nazi.

You are the only one though when it comes to posting nazi gifs or nazi content, with the only exception being discussion around nazis in Ukraine and the war there. You made some statement that "Elon boosts nazi content" and posted a link with it. And what was the content? A fking voter registration sign up form...

I'm trying to imagine how crazy it would be if members here were actually posting about nazism, linking to websites, subscriber newsletters and content explaining why nazism is a good thing. Ironically, especially with you being jewish and having family which has been persecuted, in your grand display of stupidity it's what you chose to do. You just went with a different ideology which has also killed millions in recent times, but it really shows just how dumb you are and how much of a self destructive personality you have.

[1987_Lakers]

RRR3 getting destroyed here. Yikes.

[RRR3]

RRR3 getting destroyed here. Yikes.
Defending literal Nazis now. Yikes.

[Hey Yo]

I'm a Jew, I had family die in the Holocaust
allegedly...

[Jasper]

I'm a Jew, I had family die in the Holocaust, you truly never know what you're talking about, just like all Nazis.

I am part German jew ...

We must lov Trump otherwise he deports us !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jasper]

I'm a Jew, I had family die in the Holocaust, you truly never know what you're talking about, just like all Nazis.

I am part German jew ...

We must lov Trump otherwise he deports us !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BurningHammer]

Elon is doing the Mr Beast Strategy now.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg78ljxn8g7o


Tech billionaire Elon Musk has said he will give away $1m (£766,000) a day to a registered voter in the key swing state of Pennsylvania until the US presidential election in November.
The winner will be chosen at random from those who sign a pro-constitution petition by Musk’s campaign group AmericaPAC which he set up to support Republican nominee Donald Trump's bid to return to the White House.
The first lottery-style cheque was given away to a surprised-looking attendee at a town hall event on Saturday night.

[Off the Court]

I believe I said this when Elon was accusing Jack of medaling with the election. If they were just out in the open about it, like Elon is, no one would see it as election interference.

I mean Elon is openly interfering, in front of everyone.

[ZenMaster]

I believe I said this when Elon was accusing Jack of medaling with the election. If they were just out in the open about it, like Elon is, no one would see it as election interference.

I mean Elon is openly interfering, in front of everyone.

Such a confusing post, Jack was censoring information and people through a conspiracy with US government, Elon is paying and giving a free lottery for signing a free speech petition if you live in a swing state.

[Off the Court]

Such a confusing post, Jack was censoring information and people through a conspiracy with US government, Elon is paying and giving a free lottery for signing a free speech petition if you live in a swing state.

Elon is doing everything Jack was and much more only it's out in the open thus not a "conspiracy" so somehow that makes it okay. The guy is literally on stage with Trump at rallies :oldlol:

Imagine if Jack did that with Biden, you wouldn't be here right now because your head would have exploded.

[ZenMaster]

Elon is doing everything Jack was and much more only it's out in the open thus not a "conspiracy" so somehow that makes it okay. The guy is literally on stage with Trump at rallies :oldlol:

Imagine if Jack did that with Biden, you wouldn't be here right now because your head would have exploded.

lol get back to me when Elon and his top lawyer goes on Rogan for 2 hours to explain why they're only banning people for breaking community guidelines, only to have the company bought out from under them and have it exposed they were framing Americans as Russian bot accounts in cordination with the US government.

Elon is extremely open about why he now supports Trump and that's a good thing. God bless him, I hope somehow Trump ends up in office and Elon gets the efficiency position, it just might make him the most powerful man of the century.

[1987_Lakers]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpf6kr_fPMY

:oldlol:

[BurningHammer]

Elon is doing the Mr Beast Strategy now.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cg78ljxn8g7o

Well, it is happening, folks.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/28/politics/elon-musk-philadelphia-lawsuit/index.html


Philadelphia’s district attorney asked a state judge on Monday to shut down tech billionaire Elon Musk’s controversial $1 million giveaway to registered voters, calling it an “illegal lottery scheme.”
Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner, a Democrat, filed the civil lawsuit (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25255630-philly-v-musk) against Musk and his pro-Trump group, America PAC.
“America PAC and Musk are lulling Philadelphia citizens – and others in the Commonwealth (and other swing states in the upcoming election) – to give up their personal identifying information and make a political pledge in exchange for the chance to win $1 million,” the lawsuit alleges. “That is a lottery. And it is indisputably an unlawful lottery.”
A spokesperson for Musk’s super PAC did not comment on the lawsuit and instead highlighted the group’s latest $1 million winner, announced Monday – a registered voter from Hastings, Michigan.

[Bill Gates]

Head Chief at NASA is reporting that Elon and Putin have regular contact. He is a Russian puppet.

[Hey Yo]

Head Chief at NASA is reporting that Elon and Putin have regular contact. He is a Russian puppet.

Doesn't make sense since Putin is backing Kamalluh

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/putin-endorse-kamala/

[Bill Gates]

Doesn't make sense since Putin is backing Kamalluh

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/putin-endorse-kamala/

Did you even read this?

[Media Moderator]

Head Chief at NASA is reporting that Elon and Putin have regular contact. He is a Russian puppet.

You have it the other way around

[Hey Yo]

Did you even read this?

Yep... ... why, does it say otherwise?

[BurningHammer]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/04/elon-musk-giveaway-winners-lawsuit


Elon Musk’s pro-Trump group does not choose the winners of its $1m-a-day giveaway to registered voters at random, but instead picks people who would be good spokespeople for its agenda, a lawyer for the billionaire said on Monday.
Musk lawyer Chris Gober was trying to persuade a Pennsylvania (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/pennsylvania) judge that the giveaway was not an “illegal lottery”, as the Philadelphia district attorney, Lawrence Krasner, alleged in a lawsuit seeking to block the contest in advance of Tuesday’s US presidential election.

“There is no prize to be won, instead recipients must fulfill contractual obligations to serve as a spokesperson for the Pac,” Gober said in the hearing before Judge Angelo Foglietta.



:ohwell:

[BurningHammer]

Yep... ... why, does it say otherwise?


Context Although the Russian president did say on Sept. 5, 2024, that he endorsed the Democratic candidate for president, few people believed his comments were serious. Many news outlets and political pundits concluded that he was joking.




Maybe not your outlets or pundits, but yeah, likely joking. :ohwell:

[Off the Court]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/04/elon-musk-giveaway-winners-lawsuit



:ohwell:

That is literally buying votes. Illegal

[Off the Court]

What will happen to Elon if Harris wins? A full blown tin foil meltdown with plenty of conspiracy tweets is for sure. But what after that? Does he sell Twitter off now that MAGA is over?

[BurningHammer]

Elon has won the $1M dollar sweepstake case.

https://apnews.com/article/musk-million-sweepstakes-lottery-pennsylvania-krasner-4f683c48eb7dcc57f183e54ef16e7320


Chris Young, the director and treasurer of America PAC (https://apnews.com/article/elon-musk-trump-jan-6-insurrection-ballots-a2288cae45f3caf9e7b9bc3c96c94b66), testified that the recipients are vetted ahead of time, to “feel out their personality, (and) make sure they were someone whose values aligned” with the group.
Musk’s lawyers, defending the effort, called it “core political speech” given that participants sign a petition endorsing the U.S. Constitution. They also said Krasner’s bid to shut it down under Pennsylvania law was moot because there would be no more Pennsylvania winners before the program ends Tuesday.



:ohwell:

[Real Men Wear Green]

Has Musk done Trump any good at all?

[Charlie Sheen]

Has Musk done Trump any good at all?

Maybe as a surrogate bc the Don did not have the stamina he did his last two campaigns. Trump has looked a lot older and less energetic when he’s not standing opposite another geriatric.

[j3lademaster]

Has Musk done Trump any good at all?

A ton, wtf? A lot of educated Gen Z look up to Musk, and that's usually a big democrat demographic.

[Charlie Sheen]

A ton, wtf? A lot of educated Gen Z look up to Musk, and that's usually a big democrat demographic.

He was a rockstar when it was left up to the imagination.

His star has dimmed as he has revealed more and more of his vision on changing the world according to his own personal beliefs. my pov is colored by calfiornians having an axe to grind with him :lol

[Real Men Wear Green]

A ton, wtf? A lot of educated Gen Z look up to Musk, and that's usually a big democrat demographic.

Could be true but I'm reading stories about him tanking the ground game in Pennsylvania that Trump left for him to deal with and this million dollar giveaway that has now been exposed as a sham had to have some people feeling stupid. The educated Gen Z that are voting Trump most likely weren't going for Harris anyway. I can't see someone with a degree that was voting for Harris switch sides just because Elon Musk busts out with the Dork MAGA.

[j3lademaster]

Could be true but I'm reading stories about him tanking the ground game in Pennsylvania that Trump left for him to deal with and this million dollar giveaway that has now been exposed as a sham had to have some people feeling stupid. The educated Gen Z that are voting Trump most likely weren't going for Harris anyway. I can't see someone with a degree that was voting for Harris switch sides just because Elon Musk busts out with the Dork MAGA.What about the ones who weren't necessarily voting for Harris, but were undecided?

[Real Men Wear Green]

What about the ones who weren't necessarily voting for Harris, but were undecided?

That might get Trump a few votes but I bet that's more than counterbalanced by things like this. (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/19/trump-campaign-leaked-data-voters-elon-musk) Could definitely be argued that the RNC and Trump campaign aren't doing their jobs and leaving this up to Musk, who has never ran a campaign before should not be held against Musk but the fact here is that Trump campaign is counting on Musk's people to get the vote out for them and they may not be doing it at all. The ground game is vitally important to any campaign, and even more important if it's going to be close.

[ZenMaster]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/04/elon-musk-giveaway-winners-lawsuit



:ohwell:


“There is no prize to be won, instead recipients must fulfill contractual obligations to serve as a spokesperson for the Pac,” Gober said in the hearing before Foglietta.

That's how you circumvent local lottery law to give away money, smart.


In the video, Musk also said “all we ask” is that the winners serve as spokespeople for the group.

They probably made you giddy with this loaded article, only using comments from the lawyer representing the accusor, who's obviously going to argue it one way.

[ArbitraryWater]

He was a rockstar when it was left up to the imagination.

His star has dimmed as he has revealed more and more of his vision on changing the world according to his own personal beliefs. my pov is colored by calfiornians having an axe to grind with him :lol

Yeah