View Full Version : Worst "Scrub" Archetype?
StrongLurk
10-08-2024, 09:33 PM
There are a few sort of "scrub" archtypes that have existed in the NBA. Guys that just don't have the look or much skill either.
I think the worst "scrub" archetype is the undersized, non-shooting Power Forwards from the 90's. So many times when I'm watching older games, these types of players just stand out so much because most of the time on the court they are just running around, setting screens, and clogging up the court. They are just sort of out there.
Im Still Ballin
10-09-2024, 12:02 AM
A scrub is determined by his impact on the game, not a specific skill set. Bo Outlaw was infinitely more impactful than majority of rotation guys who could shoot. Reggie Evans and Danny Fortson were less of a scrub than Steve Novak was. Defense matters. Rebounding matters. Physicality matters.
The rules and their interpretations of an era dictate the optimal/ideal offensive and defensive strategies. The Illegal Defense era of the '80s and '90s enforced a degree of spacing regardless of a player's offensive ability. This allowed teams to play defensively-slanted lineups. Hand-checking empowered physical players and athletes over "skilled" guys.
Full Court
10-09-2024, 12:18 AM
A scrub is determined by his impact on the game, not a specific skill set. Bo Outlaw was infinitely more impactful than majority of rotation guys who could shoot. Reggie Evans and Danny Fortson were less of a scrub than Steve Novak was. Defense matters. Rebounding matters. Physicality matters.
The rules and their interpretations of an era dictate the optimal/ideal offensive and defensive strategies. The Illegal Defense era of the '80s and '90s enforced a degree of spacing regardless of a player's offensive ability. This allowed teams to play defensively-slanted lineups. Hand-checking empowered physical players and athletes over "skilled" guys.
^This is a very intelligent response to an idiotic OP who thinks he's making a clever slap at the '80s and '90s.
ILLsmak
10-09-2024, 01:37 AM
Yea I’d go the other way and say the tweener. Funny all guards are closer to that now.
And by tweener i mean guard tweener. That seems like the one people were really into using.
Some real cancer tweeners in the 90s 00s.
-Smak
Xiao Yao You
10-09-2024, 07:01 AM
Yea I’d go the other way and say the tweener. Funny all guards are closer to that now.
And by tweener i mean guard tweener. That seems like the one people were really into using.
Some real cancer tweeners in the 90s 00s.
-Smak
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Nowoco
10-09-2024, 07:06 AM
an idiotic OP who thinks he's making a clever slap at the '80s and '90s.
This.
HylianNightmare
10-09-2024, 08:14 AM
Adam Morrison
Kblaze8855
10-09-2024, 09:39 AM
A great deal of those players were really useful both for running offenses that require screens away from the ball and for disrupting offenses that lean on post play.
I’m not sure people like John Lucas the third have a purpose outside an emergency lack of offense where you just hope someone can hold a shit lineup together on that end for 3 possessions while a good guard drinks some Gatorade.
He is the worst of his type. Go up a notch and you get like….Earl Boykins. Then you go up another one to reach Lou Williams, Jordan Clarkson, and Jamal Crawford types.
John Lucas is that type…just 2-3 tiers down. Which makes you sick when he checks in or god forbid has to start. He actually did start 2 wins in his career though. And one of them he played 15 minutes and went 0-7 with 2 turnovers while being -9 and in the other he got lucky the Wizards were an even bigger joke and only scored 64 points so our 78 was a win. He played 45 minutes and shot well that game.
He had one good start in his career and a couple good quarters.
He will be remembered for nothing but Lebron jumping over him on an alley. Not that he’s remembered for that either but….its the only thing that’s gonna come up when he’s googled in the future if his grandkids wanna look into him
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Worst kind of scrub is small guards who shoot a lot but aren't particularly good scorers, and play horrible defense.
StrongLurk
10-09-2024, 11:50 AM
A scrub is determined by his impact on the game, not a specific skill set. Bo Outlaw was infinitely more impactful than majority of rotation guys who could shoot. Reggie Evans and Danny Fortson were less of a scrub than Steve Novak was. Defense matters. Rebounding matters. Physicality matters.
The rules and their interpretations of an era dictate the optimal/ideal offensive and defensive strategies. The Illegal Defense era of the '80s and '90s enforced a degree of spacing regardless of a player's offensive ability. This allowed teams to play defensively-slanted lineups. Hand-checking empowered physical players and athletes over "skilled" guys.
Think old ass Antoine Carr getting serious playoff/finals minutes on those late 90's Jazz teams :lol
Xiao Yao You
10-09-2024, 12:09 PM
Think old ass Antoine Carr getting serious playoff/finals minutes on those late 90's Jazz teams :lol
He was great the 1st year they had him but should have let him go after that and is typical with the jazz they hung on to him too long
SouBeachTalents
10-09-2024, 12:11 PM
The defensive role player who gets exposed every postseason. Think Gobert for example.
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