Why do these pro athletes have bad stamina?

[iamgine]

When I was 18-22 years old, I was playing serious full court pick up ball for HOURS almost every single day. When we entered a tournament and I played like 20 minutes a game, I barely broke a sweat every game cause it's like rest every 5 minutes.

I feel like 48 minutes for 82 games should be quite easy for these WORLD CLASS athletes.

[DJMcDonald]

You had better stamina than these guys, plain and simple. You should become a conditioning coach.

[iamgine]

You had better stamina than these guys, plain and simple. You should become a conditioning coach.

Not just me. Many of us were doing it.

[ralph_i_el]

They're moving faster and jumping higher than you. They're expending more energy per second. They're also working more outside of games to keep their performance up.

[2swift4u]

Bigger bodies consume more energy. So basically you can say that it is more difficult for a tall and heavy player to have good stamina than it is for a smaller person. In addition, our brain also consumes a lot of energy. Under pressure, implementing the coach's moves in an important game is more energy-sapping than just playing meaningless pick up basketball. And lastly I guess it has something to do with how these guys train. I'm assuming that they hardly ever run up and down the court for 2-3 hours. Usually they work on specific things, get a lot of breaks and instructions etc. So endurance is not a key factor. Their goal has to be to be as fast and powerful for 48 minutes or rather the short stints they have on the court during a game. Then they can get a short rest, can recover and go again.

[SouBeachTalents]

You're obviously just a better athlete than the majority of NBA players, no other explanation needed.

[Hey Yo]

Ask MJ... he was only able to play 7 full, consecutive seasons before he needed to take a couple years off.

[tpols]

You had better stamina than these guys, plain and simple. You should become a conditioning coach.

:roll:

[iamgine]

They're moving faster and jumping higher than you. They're expending more energy per second. They're also working more outside of games to keep their performance up.

Don't come at me with that BS. Watch the games. Focus on one random player. Trust your eyes. They don't really expand THAT much energy.

[ralph_i_el]

Don't come at me with that BS. Watch the games. Focus on one random player. Trust your eyes. They don't really expand THAT much energy.

But you were, out on the playground?

[Charlie Sheen]

Don't come at me with that BS. Watch the games. Focus on one random player. Trust your eyes. They don't really expand THAT much energy.

If you are not impressed with the speed of the professional game... you need to get better seats.

[highwhey]

If you are not impressed with the speed of the professional game... you need to get better seats.

i don't think OP has ever played against real competition. even retired players will give you a little preview of just how f'ing strong and quick and skilled they are are...and those are past the hill.

you expend way more energy trying to hold back a 250lb big or getting bumped by one on your way to the basket than getting swiped at by a 150lb player at your local playground. the game is so much more technical at the pro level. might as well ask why a prius gets better gas mileage than an F1 race car :facepalm

[Kblaze8855]

It’s a combo of the physical ability of the opponents, much more serious defense, and age. I promise the 18 year old version of most nba players could go hard for longer than the 32 year old versions. That’s just life.

Plus when you play your friends it’s more acceptable to lose a step as you tire. Nobody is watching to pull you out because you aren’t going hard.

Its a lot more draining to fight through a screen set by Draymond in serious mode than your friend who works at Honda and it emptied the tank quicker.

All that said….it is something that I wonder at times. It isn’t just a limitation the human body isn’t capable of. Players play whole games in the playoffs all the time. It’s mostly the league deciding what’s best for long term health and keeping them fresh until they get to said playoffs.

A guy like AI could easily play 45 minutes a night today. But nobody would allow it.

[Patrick Chewing]

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This is what a peak physique for a big man should look like. Parish was hardly ever on the Injured List.

[ralph_i_el]

I bet I could jog continuously for a longer time than many NBA bigs....because they have 80 lbs on me. LeBron sweats a full gallon during a game. It's just different.

[NBAGOAT]

they're running more than you did in pickup and more than any era in history. This is something people overlook with the wilt 48min stats, he was standing in the post a lot more. 42 players traveled 2.5miles or more per game last year, it was 15 in 2014. https://www.nba.com/stats/players/speed-distance?Season=2013-14&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&dir=D&sort=DIST_MILES Yea you're going be more tired and have more injuries. Ofc resting to be healthy for the long term is also a reason. in a previous era, the sixers are running embiid into the ground.

[j3lademaster]

Because people stand around more in pickup.

[iamgine]

It’s a combo of the physical ability of the opponents, much more serious defense, and age. I promise the 18 year old version of most nba players could go hard for longer than the 32 year old versions. That’s just life.

Plus when you play your friends it’s more acceptable to lose a step as you tire. Nobody is watching to pull you out because you aren’t going hard.

Its a lot more draining to fight through a screen set by Draymond in serious mode than your friend who works at Honda and it emptied the tank quicker.

All that said….it is something that I wonder at times. It isn’t just a limitation the human body isn’t capable of. Players play whole games in the playoffs all the time. It’s mostly the league deciding what’s best for long term health and keeping them fresh until they get to said playoffs.

A guy like AI could easily play 45 minutes a night today. But nobody would allow it.

We played serious ball for HOURS every single day. When we played a tournament, I barely broke a sweat cause I had to rest every 5 minutes. These pros should have A LOT MORE stamina than me and my friends. I think we can all agree on that.

As I said, watch the games. Look at...Rui Hachimura for example. Just watch him all game and tell me how he's tired at all. Guy's out there only shooting 2-3 times a quarter. Resting every 6 minutes. On defense a lot of times it's just standing around walking.

[Duffy Pratt]

they're running more than you did in pickup and more than any era in history. This is something people overlook with the wilt 48min stats, he was standing in the post a lot more. 42 players traveled 2.5miles or more per game last year, it was 15 in 2014. https://www.nba.com/stats/players/speed-distance?Season=2013-14&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&dir=D&sort=DIST_MILES Yea you're going be more tired and have more injuries. Ofc resting to be healthy for the long term is also a reason. in a previous era, the sixers are running embiid into the ground.

The year Wilt averaged 48.5 minutes/game, the average pace in the league was 128. That’s way higher than it is now. He wasn’t camping in the post that season. Later on, yes he spent much more time on the low post.

They didn’t keep the stat back then so it’s impossible to know for sure. But I never saw any player run as much as Havlicek.

That said, I think there is a little truth to the idea that some players are running much harder than they did before. But there also seems to be a lot of standing around on O, especially with some 3 happy teams, and more than a little lack of defense.

As noted somewhere else, LeBron seems to sweat gallons in the regular season, and I have no idea why. He doesn’t play D, and he spends a large portion of the offense simply camped outside the three point circle. I guess flopping and whining to the refs is more strenuous than I would have imagined.

[paksat]

probably the lack of real competitive practice these days

paul pierce commented one time that he was blown away at what they call "practice" these days. Gilbert arenas was laughing at it too saying all they do is some shooting drills essentially. Used to practices were essentially live tryout level scrimmages that might as well have been real matches. People played like their jobs were on the line during practice.

I used to play 6 hours a day at times, once you get used to it it's hardly different than walking down the sidewalk. All you needed was some water and a minute or two, then right back out there for another hard 10-15 minutes. Come back home, get some sleep, wake up like nothing even happened no soreness nothing... for years at a time

[Axe]

Maybe eating some eggs can help them build it. :confusedshrug:

[paksat]

Eggs certainly help being a good source of protein low on carbs and most of the past were cheap

[NBAGOAT]

The year Wilt averaged 48.5 minutes/game, the average pace in the league was 128. That’s way higher than it is now. He wasn’t camping in the post that season. Later on, yes he spent much more time on the low post.

They didn’t keep the stat back then so it’s impossible to know for sure. But I never saw any player run as much as Havlicek.

That said, I think there is a little truth to the idea that some players are running much harder than they did before. But there also seems to be a lot of standing around on O, especially with some 3 happy teams, and more than a little lack of defense.

As noted somewhere else, LeBron seems to sweat gallons in the regular season, and I have no idea why. He doesn’t play D, and he spends a large portion of the offense simply camped outside the three point circle. I guess flopping and whining to the refs is more strenuous than I would have imagined.

the tracking data say miles run has significantly increased in the past 10 yrs.

[Charlie Sheen]

probably the lack of real competitive practice these days

paul pierce commented one time that he was blown away at what they call "practice" these days. Gilbert arenas was laughing at it too saying all they do is some shooting drills essentially. Used to practices were essentially live tryout level scrimmages that might as well have been real matches. People played like their jobs were on the line during practice.

I used to play 6 hours a day at times, once you get used to it it's hardly different than walking down the sidewalk. All you needed was some water and a minute or two, then right back out there for another hard 10-15 minutes. Come back home, get some sleep, wake up like nothing even happened no soreness nothing... for years at a time

If 6 hours a day was like walking to you i would be my life savings you never changed ends in a full court game... cherrypicker

[paksat]

If 6 hours a day was like walking to you i would be my life savings you never changed ends in a full court game... cherrypicker

these aren't scrimmages with two opposing teams that are playing like their life is on the line

what's so hard about playing all day at the park when you're a teenager? Is that hard to you fat boy?

[paksat]

hold up ya'll charlie needs to ice his knees from running around for more than 30 minutes, he should be good in 3 days after we've played another 50 games or so with a couple of pizzas and some eggs to hold us

[BarberSchool]

If 6 hours a day was like walking to you i would be my life savings you never changed ends in a full court game... cherrypicker

Comments like this don’t achieve what you think they do LMAO.

They do however, prove you were NEVER a real varsity or university level athlete in your teens or twenties.

Every single real high level ball player in the history of D-1, D-2, and international professional basketball did this easily for their entire middle school, high school, and college careers. In season and out of season, if they chose to.

I went years with not a single day off the court. Not even national holidays. I was at the park or shooting and dunking or at least playing horse and one on one or 32 or 21 every single day for at least 3hours. Most often 4-5, during winter and summer break, almost always 5-6. From 7th grade until my early twenties, no days off.

[BarberSchool]

the tracking data say miles run has significantly increased in the past 10 yrs.

Assuming all the data is correct, and consistent in standards across multiple decades …. Which is a big assumption …. By what percentage was the increase? And from when to when ? Along what trend lines or fluctuation range ?