I never understood why this was ever considered ok.

[Kblaze8855]

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Because my job is playing sports in order for you to do your job of talking about my performance you need access to me in places where my balls are out?

it feels like something that would’ve been addressed somewhere in the 90s at the latest. Media companies push back on it because they want all the access they can get but it feels like in this era you would just be able to say **** off.

Can a media member just walk in when tennis, wnba, gymnast, or whatever women are changing?

I doubt it. Feels like an argument you could win off that alone and knowing players don’t care for it…it’s an odd place to not see the flex that power.

We have seen nfl coverage inside locker rooms where a guy just walks by dick all the way out on live tv.

Doesnt it just feel like something modern times would put a stop to if only because they know they can’t win the argument while keeping media out of women events?

Again…that’s assuming they are kept out. Maybe they aren’t. I just feel it’s probably not the case even with any number of wnba women being more masculine than most.

[Kblaze8855]

Appears after a few teams started banning it individually years ago the wnba fully banned it last year. Female reporter talking about it




I can only speak on my behalf with my own experience but 2023 wasn’t the first time the WNBA had removed locker room access for the media. The Storm organization stopped allowing locker room access back in 2019 I believe.
At the time, it wasn’t a drastic change for me for a few reasons. When I did have locker room access to players back in 2015, 2016, etc. it still felt extremely structured and monitored. We were told when we could go into the locker room. We were watched the entire time by PR and ushered out of the locker rooms after just a few minutes.
Back then, I was just getting into reporting and journalism work so I wasn’t yet super comfortable taking advantage of locker room access as more seasoned professionals might.
When they switched to a more formal press conference setting, it generally worked out better for me because I was still given access to the coach and two to three players and I felt like they gave us more time to ask questions. It didn’t feel nearly as rushed as when we were in the locker room.
In the WNBA, where the majority of sports reporters are still men, I certainly understand players wanting their privacy in the locker rooms. But I also acknowledge the negative drawback of limiting access to the media in general; especially, when it goes from media members no longer having locker room access to media members no longer being able to even request additional players for comments.
It’s a slippery slope. Removing access is going to decrease coverage. Coverage is 100% necessary for the product to grow. If players want to start earning million-dollar salaries it’s not going to happen if the people that are trying to build up the league and grow the game are shut out.

[Real Men Wear Green]

I'm sure you know it's just the difference between how men and women are viewed in our society. If the NBPA decided to make issue over it they could probably end it but I believe all major male sports permit this access. Just comes down to no one quite caring enough but maybe a few players like George will spark a movement one day.

[Kblaze8855]

Well sure know why they look at it different when women complain. I’m just saying I’m surprised the NBA union doesn’t take advantage of the inescapable hypocrisy that would be evident if they weren’t allowed to do the same. I’ve heard too many players complain about it to think they don’t care. Allowing WNBA players to get out of being seen nude by the media, but not the man is just an unwinnable argument.

that said, I also know a lot of things like that which are outside the financial realm often get traded for other things. Maybe the nba didn’t want it to come up while getting bids from media partners who would see it as a concession they could get money back for by claiming loss of coverage. Considering they split the rights deal with players maybe it wasn’t worth the fight.

[iamgine]

I think they don't care enough. I mean they care about that creepy guy who stares and want him gone but not about the other normal guys who doesn't stare.

[Neal Romer]

Well sure know why they look at it different when women complain. I’m just saying I’m surprised the NBA union doesn’t take advantage of the inescapable hypocrisy that would be evident if they weren’t allowed to do the same. I’ve heard too many players complain about it to think they don’t care. Allowing WNBA players to get out of being seen nude by the media, but not the man is just an unwinnable argument.

that said, I also know a lot of things like that which are outside the financial realm often get traded for other things. Maybe the nba didn’t want it to come up while getting bids from media partners who would see it as a concession they could get money back for by claiming loss of coverage. Considering they split the rights deal with players maybe it wasn’t worth the fight.


I agree Ive always found it strange, and I surmise it's simply a time issue. Time is money and teams have flights to catch and so on, and all the security and transportation and equipment people are all on the clock. The league and union probably just figure lets get all this interview stuff going while guys are getting changed. Saves some time.

In most womens sports/leagues (tennis, gymnastics, golf, etc) events take place in one city at one time, theres a lot less daily travel involved. Prob makes it just less of an issue. Even the WNBA plays fewer games than men and probably gets fewer reporters and fewer questions anyway. They got time to spare. Theres really no womens situation I can think of comparable to men's pro sports in terms of how much hasto be coordinated after a game. So thats probably why.

That said, there are def drawbacks for the reporters as well. Imagine having to cover Lebron while he's changing. You could easily end up with your eye poked out.

[Patrick Chewing]

I wonder if Paul is talking about Jeff.

[highwhey]

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[BarberSchool]

The media is run by a group, from a racial/religious group, that is seemingly obsessed with male genitalia of large goyishe men. And has an much much larger percent of its population that self-identifies as LGBBQ. In Los Angeles, I’d even say the vast majority of US media faves are LGBBQ. When was the last time anyone hoofed it thru West Hollywood? Damn aids clinic on every other corner damn near.

No surprise that they will probably harshly fight and shame anyone trying to put a stop to their habit of enabled/normalized leering behavior.
Paul George will now be badmouthed by the lamestream media… book it.