Huge caravans of illegals descending on the US fearful of a Trump presidency

[Media Moderator]

Yeah they are already illegal the moment the planned on crossing in the border. And they are terrified of a Trump presidency. Every migrant questioned wanted anyone in office but Trump. And to think some libtards actually have tried to say illegal immigration was worse under Trump :oldlol:

So who's side are you on. Border Czar Kamala and the illegals?
Or on the side of hard working American citizens and Trump?

It's really that simple


The caravans that I traveled with were escorted by Mexican National Guard escorts, something that I have witnessed. Perhaps, it not only the migrants growing restless, so, too, are the authorities.

For months, an estimated 150,000 U.S.-bound migrants have been bottled up in increasingly dire conditions in Tapachula, as ever more arrive there from South and Central America.

In fact, the true number massing in southern Mexico may even be in the hundreds of thousands.

I've visited Tapachula at least five times over the last decade and I've never seen it so crowded. All the hotels and motels are packed. Immigrant shelters are at full capacity.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13989363/mexico-migrant-caravan-election-todd-bensman.html?ico=article_preview_xp_mobile

[Patrick Chewing]

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[TheMan]

Yeah they are already illegal the moment the planned on crossing in the border. And they are terrified of a Trump presidency. Every migrant questioned wanted anyone in office but Trump. And to think some libtards actually have tried to say illegal immigration was worse under Trump :oldlol:

So who's side are you on. Border Czar Kamala and the illegals?
Or on the side of hard working American citizens and Trump?

It's really that simple




https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13989363/mexico-migrant-caravan-election-todd-bensman.html?ico=article_preview_xp_mobile

Is he gonna keep his promise same way he built that magnificent wall and had Mexico pay for it? :lol

You easily duped morons have the memory/attention span of a mosquito.

You guys still haven't figured out he will say anything and everything you want to hear with no actual follow through so long he gets elected, huh?

[highwhey]

:dancin:djparty

[Media Moderator]

Is he gonna keep his promise same way he built that magnificent wall and had Mexico pay for it? :lol

You easily duped morons have the memory/attention span of a mosquito.

You guys still haven't figured out he will say anything and everything you want to hear with no actual follow through so long he gets elected, huh?

Oh but he punched Mexico in the nose with tariffs starting at 5% and going up to 10% unless you guys helped guard the border for him. You know what? Mexico bent it's knees to Trump and did exactly that .

See how border encounters were under Trump https://i.ibb.co/0Q1rWhH/Screenshot-2024-10-24-07-46-12-37-40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg

You can ramble on all you want but it's a fact. A FACT. That the last president all the illegals on your side of the border wants to see is Trump.

And the world has noticed. Look at the amount of illegal immigration under Biden from countries other than Mexico, Nicaragua, and Honduras.

https://i.ibb.co/dLwvrNN/Screenshot-2024-10-24-08-14-39-04-40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg

Not to mention that Biden and Kamala are in the business of trafficking children

https://i.ibb.co/HnyXh1w/Screenshot-2024-10-24-08-15-14-55-40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg

[TheMan]

Oh but he punched Mexico in the nose with tariffs starting at 5% and going up to 10% unless you guys helped guard the border for him. You know what? Mexico bent it's knees to Trump and did exactly that .

See how border encounters were under Trump https://i.ibb.co/0Q1rWhH/Screenshot-2024-10-24-07-46-12-37-40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg

You can ramble on all you want but it's a fact. A FACT. That the last president all the illegals on your side of the border wants to see is Trump.

And the world has noticed. Look at the amount of illegal immigration under Biden from countries other than Mexico, Nicaragua, and Honduras.

https://i.ibb.co/dLwvrNN/Screenshot-2024-10-24-08-14-39-04-40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg

Not to mention that Biden and Kamala are in the business of trafficking children

https://i.ibb.co/HnyXh1w/Screenshot-2024-10-24-08-15-14-55-40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg

Changing the goal posts, huh? He promised a wall that Mexico would pay for, never happened. Also, do you know how tariffs work? The tariffs are being paid by the US consumer, it doesn't affect the exporting country :roll: So his plans to raise tariffs 100%-200% would be paid by YOU, and every economist says that Trump's tariffs would wreck the US economy, not Mexico's nor China's.

[Media Moderator]

Changing the goal posts, huh? He promised a wall that Mexico would pay for, never happened. Also, do you know how tariffs work? The tariffs are being paid by the US consumer, it doesn't affect the exporting country :roll: So his plans to raise tariffs 100%-200% would be paid by YOU, and every economist says that Trump's tariffs would wreck the US economy, not Mexico's nor China's.

Or....they buy from some place else. Mexico has never been known for making quality anything except for maybe cheese and tequila. So their asses better be cheap. Irregardless whatever Trump did shook the Mexican government so bad they agreed to help him secure the border and the numbers indicate it has an effect

[Hey Yo]

Is he gonna keep his promise same way he built that magnificent wall and had Mexico pay for it? :lol

You easily duped morons have the memory/attention span of a mosquito.

You guys still haven't figured out he will say anything and everything you want to hear with no actual follow through so long he gets elected,huh
And your girl hasn't??? :lol

She's flipped flopped on so much shit and continually refuses to answer basic questions. She called the wall racist and disgusting yet showed it in one of her commercials on how she's going to crack down on the border.

[Patrick Chewing]

And your girl hasn't??? :lol

She's flipped flopped on so much shit and continually refuses to answer basic questions. She called the wall racist and disgusting yet showed it in one of her commercials on how she's going to crack down on the border.

Kamala fans post here all the time, but he only calls out Trump fans. He voted for Kamala. He knows that the more Democrats run the United States, the more of his people can just hop on over and stake claim. I see right through TheTacoMan.

[highwhey]

i will be making a thread to welcome these great people :applause:

[TheMan]

Or....they buy from some place else. Mexico has never been known for making quality anything except for maybe cheese and tequila. So their asses better be cheap. Irregardless whatever Trump did shook the Mexican government so bad they agreed to help him secure the border and the numbers indicate it has an effect

Mexico is the number 1 producer of car parts that the US buys from because they're more affordable and they're high quality, so if the US buys from someone else, it'll make cars in the US more expensive, and you guys foot the bill. And that's just one example...



Donald Trump’s Tariffs Would Hurt US Workers and Businesses
Oct 22, 2024
Maurice Obstfeld
Many in the US business community think that Donald Trump’s plan to impose massive tariffs on imports from China, and across-the-board tariffs on most other countries’ exports to America, will boost their bottom lines while also helping workers. But tariffs cannot do both – and are likely to do neither.

WASHINGTON, DC – “To me the most beautiful word in the dictionary is ‘tariff,’” Donald Trump told an audience at the Economic Club of Chicago last week. Judging from the thunderous applause that followed, many in the business community believe that Trump’s plan for comprehensive tariffs will help their bottom lines.

At the same time, Trump and his allies insist that tariffs will aid American workers. But tariffs cannot raise worker incomes and business profits simultaneously, because they undermine the US economy’s efficiency, imposing costs on consumers and producers that compress total national income. A more likely outcome is that workers and business owners alike will suffer real economic pain.

Those who favor tariffs regard international trade as a main cause of US manufacturing job losses and wage stagnation for workers lacking college degrees. According to this view, cheap imports from low-wage countries like China have eliminated US jobs producing similar goods; at the same time, US businesses have moved production abroad in search of cheaper labor.

The truth is more complicated, with new technology playing a more important role than trade. But tariff proponents nevertheless argue that restricting imports can revive US manufacturing and boost demand for middle-skilled workers along with their wages.

Economic theory (namely, the famous Stolper-Samuelson theorem of international trade) suggests that protectionist tariffs can raise real wages in a country like the United States, which imports goods embodying cheaper foreign labor. Economic theory, however, also shows that a tariff causes total national income and the return to capital – real business profits – to decline. The business leaders who applauded Trump in Chicago cannot achieve higher profits if workers are made better off while the total economic pie shrinks.

The outlook gets even worse when one realizes that Trump’s proposed comprehensive tariffs (like his tariffs in 2018-19) would apply to a wide range of intermediate goods (mainly parts used in producing other more advanced products), raising their US prices. Intermediate goods make up well over half of all US merchandise imports, so tariffs on items like steel and aluminum are unavoidable if Trump’s goal is to revive manufacturing.

[DJMcDonald]

We need to help these people.

[TheMan]

When tariffs apply to the intermediate imports used to produce other goods, the idealized assumptions of the Stolper-Samuelson analysis no longer hold. Such tariffs force real wages down. Intuitively, an increase in the cost of intermediate goods reduces profitability in the import-competing sector, causing layoffs and wage declines. The total economic pie shrinks even more, and workers are made worse off.

Evidence from Trump’s 2018-19 trade war suggests that dependence on intermediate imports was a dominant factor causing manufacturing industries to cut employment, outweighing a smaller positive effect from the reduction of foreign competition. Foreign retaliation hit US exports and added significantly to the harm to employment. The Congressional Budget Office has estimated that the 2018-19 tariffs reduced the size of the US economy by 0.3% by 2020.

Proponents of tariffs sometimes argue that there need not be a trade-off between the income of domestic labor and capital because a tariff may induce foreign producers to jump over the tariff wall by ramping up their US-based operations. For example, anticipating tariffs that the US imposed on residential washing machines in 2018, the South Korean producers LG Electronics and Samsung started producing in the US.

Can tariff-jumping foreign direct investment add to the economy’s capital and so increase the total size of the economic pie, allowing labor and business both to gain? A first approximation suggests that the answer is no, as shown in a classic 1960 analysis by the Scottish economist G.D.A. MacDougall.

While gross domestic product – the output produced within US borders – rises, the more relevant measure of the country’s earned income, gross national product, need not rise. The rise in GNP equals the rise in GDP minus the higher profits that the firm engaging in FDI remits to its stockholders back home. But if the firm’s remitted profits equal its contribution to US GDP, the direct impact on US GNP is zero.

That doesn’t mean that the FDI would yield no benefits for labor: real wages might rise, but these gains to labor would be offset by losses to business profits owing to stiffer domestic competition. Again, workers can gain but businesses lose. (The only possible gain in overall US GNP, entirely the result of business losses, comes from lower dividends paid abroad by foreign firms previously in the US – some of which may choose to return home because of their US operations’ reduced profitability.

Inward FDI due to tariffs will not eliminate increased costs to consumers and businesses. These costs are significant and would be amplified by the broad sweep of Trump’s intended tariffs. One careful study reckoned that Trump’s
2018 tariffs cost importers $51 billion, equivalent to about $400 per household that year, and also eroded real wages.

Those tariffs covered $303 billion in annual US imports. The universal tariffs being proposed now would cover at least ten times more imports, with commensurately higher per household costs. If the goal is to attract FDI to America, subsidies, better US infrastructure, or badly needed investments in upskilling the US workforce would do so without raising prices for consumers and businesses.

On top of all of these harms, Trump’s proposed tariffs would undoubtedly trigger foreign retaliation and fuel a destructive trade war. This factor added to the damage from Trump’s last go at tariffs. As harmful as the Smoot-Hawley tariff of 1930 was to the US, the international trade war it ignited was much worse. If the experience is repeated in today’s far more interconnected world, the costs will be higher still, and US workers and businesses alike surely will lose.

Maurice Obstfeld, a former chief economist of the International Monetary Fund, is Senior Fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics and Professor of Economics Emeritus at the University of California, Berkeley.

TL;DR

Tariffs won't do much but make things more costly in the US and could lead to trade wars...read the whole thing, don't stay lazy and uniformed. This is the consensus of economists, tariffs are a bad idea. By the way, what happened to free market competition? Make up your mind, are you righty free market advocates or
lefty protectionists?

[Patrick Chewing]

We need to help these people.

They can start by living with you, noodle dick. Let them into your house. Feed them your noodles and shrimp fried rice.


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f5/47/71/f54771280aa0963110c2c06f3d42f68a.gif

[Patrick Chewing]

i will be making a thread to welcome these great people :applause:

https://i.makeagif.com/media/3-19-2021/uo6Sn5.gif

[TheMan]

They can start by living with you, noodle dick. Let them into your house. Feed them your noodles and shrimp fried rice.


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f5/47/71/f54771280aa0963110c2c06f3d42f68a.gif

Noodles and fried shrimp rice is awesome

[highwhey]

They can start by living with you, noodle dick. Let them into your house. Feed them your noodles and shrimp fried rice.


https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f5/47/71/f54771280aa0963110c2c06f3d42f68a.gif

obese meltdown

[highwhey]

Noodles and fried shrimp rice is awesome

that's a freudian slip for patrick, his mind is always thinking about food

[Patrick Chewing]

Noodles and fried shrimp rice is awesome

Arroz, frijoles, y maduros is way better.


https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/0d/84/7d/9e/arroz-con-frijoles-platano.jpg

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[TheMan]

Arroz, frijoles, y maduros is way better.


https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/0d/84/7d/9e/arroz-con-frijoles-platano.jpg

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What are maduros?

BTW, I once had a Cuban co worker, he brought to work some frijoles that had pineapple bits, shit was the bomb, cool guy too.

[highwhey]

Arroz, frijoles, y maduros is way better.


https://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/0d/84/7d/9e/arroz-con-frijoles-platano.jpg

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asi bailabas con gorlock the destroyer?

[Patrick Chewing]

What are maduros?

BTW, I once had a Cuban co worker, he brought to work some frijoles that had pineapple bits, shit was the bomb, cool guy too.

Dios mio....maduros are fried sweet plantains.


Gotta expand your horizons muchacho